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    Henri Matisse The pink studio 1911   • Vaccines: Reasons for Concern (Alex Berenson) • European Union Reports 1.5 Million Vaccine Injuries, 15,47
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 27 2021]

    #78368
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    The internet is a poisoned well; dip from it what you will…
    Every bit of useful information is weighed and measured for it’s value and priced accordingly..
    Even Ilargi’s site is flooded with bullshit ads; and I contribute $20 USD/month; but drownd in the utter flood of garbage………
    To be clear, I don’t blame Ilargi; but wonder, what the hell can be done to stop this shit…
    The dearest information comes at a heavy price…and I’m fucking fed up with the whole bullshit result…
    I do not know the solution; but I’m damned close to trashing the whole fucking internet and it’s corrupted culture…

    .

    #78369
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Ohh, there’s more; lots more to be sure…
    I just don’t have a clear path forward…

    #78370
    John Day
    Participant

    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/06/farewell-world-war-three.html

    Today’s meme seems kind of odd, but I like the analogy presented by Thierry Meyssan that the Global War On Terror was World War Three and the “evil empire” lost and had to agree to some terms at the recent meeting between Putin and Biden.
    Europe is having to foot the bill for now, but the price of the bill can be negotiated down, which is why Merkel wants to meet directly with Putin (and Macron). (NATO tool) Poland is currently objecting to that, but it looks inevitable. My personal opinion is that this negotiation was better settled before the global financial collapse/reset, so it could be less-worser. The days of the petrobuck are numbered. I just don’t know what the number is.
    Thanks for sending me this collection of articles, Eleni (in neocolonialized Greece). The one I found about the new war on domestic middle-aged white racist terrorists in America fits right in, since the same tactics that worked so well against Sunni and Shia Muslims can be readily adapted to work against woke and un-woke Americans.

    First, the basis of the failed Global War On Brown People in oil and mineral places.
    The Rumsfeld/Cebrowski doctrine, by Thierry Meyssan
    For two decades, the Pentagon has been applying the “Rumsfeld/Cebrowski doctrine” to the “wider Middle East”. Several times, it thought of extending it to the “Caribbean Basin”, but refrained from doing so, concentrating its power on its first target. The Pentagon acts as an autonomous decision-making center that is effectively outside the power of the president. It is a civil-military administration that imposes its objectives on the rest of the military.

    #78371
    John Day
    Participant

    Hi V.Arnold. I have a couple more Dwarf Namwah bananas planted (last weekend) in Yoakum, along with 2 Dwarf Orinoco (similar cooking banana) an Apple Banana and a Blue Java. They are not dead a week later in what was a black-bean patch after the February deep-freeze, and is now a nascent winter (“Fairy”) squash patch.

    #78372
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Well, it appears that ClownWorld is in full effect, & the Military-Medical Industrial Complex is unabated in its rape, pillage & plunder of the peasants ~ How long can reality be lied away, & how many can be murdered before the sheeple spook?

    Another round of vaccines for everyone, on the house!

    #78373
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “journalists are bound to the government by ideology rather than law.”

    As I’ve said, Leftists, how did you get here? The FBI/CIA Congress, police, are your ideology, not the worker, the poor? And they are now definitively the party of the rich, both corporate and private. Go back, go back!

    Well at least they are dead last in credibility. However, 20% is much too high.

    I wonder how that Cotton thing got started. Nearest I can tell, one of the key factors was NYT can’t tell the difference between News and Editorial Op-Ed anymore. And no surprise when 100% of the articles are opinion/editorial. Still strange it would go the other way, but opinions are violence, I guess, while violence is NOT violence: it’s speech. #OppositeLand

    Being totally on the side of the police, AOC defunds the public police in NYC, which doubles crime for the poor. This mildly inconveniences the rich, but NYC rich easily pay for security and they therefore have their “police”, and all the guns, which the poor don’t. …That’s why we invented the police to begin with: for equality under the law, the thing she/they are reversing.

    Carrying on with helping only the rich, she then votes for $1.2B for police in the 10 wealthiest zip codes in America: Washington, D.C. So really, she’s violently pro-police, but anti-poor. And this is true not of her as one example, but the party in general. They have the right to self-defense, as they buy $30,000 in armed bodyguards: mayors, social justice actors…but Lou Jackson in Baltimore and Chicago and Trenton has no right to self-defense even in his bed. Literally. In New Jersey, if someone aggresses you, you are required to retreat infinitely. So if you have a murderer, a burglar, or a street riot that burns your home, you must get up out of bed, and leave your T.V., your computer, your work tools to the criminals, and retreat to…where exactly? They just took over your house and possibly burned it. You’re supposed to find safety under the stop sign at the end of the street, 2am, 20f, in the middle of a violent mob?

    You haven’t the right to self-defense allowed to a cat or dog. Die, maggot, and we’ll hose up your body on the Miracle Mile, take your stuff to the state and say tsk, tsk. Guess he should have been rich! This is where the party has got to, and it’s incredible to me how long it can go on.

    But what can you say of a group that supports China and openly coos over the censorship of North Korea? (Both examples NYT but is extravagantly widespread) Well, like I said, if it’s opposite, their religion does it. If it’s NOT our job, we do it, while if it IS our job, we don’t do it.

    Like the Fed. THeir job is stable prices. They don’t do it, they do the opposite. Their added mandate is employment. They have worse employment than all 1,000 years before they were born. Meanwhile, they have NO mandate, are prohibited from, setting public policy for Social Justice, it’s illegal for them to be involved in Global Warming, and they have no basis for either buying, or levitating the stock market, including stock markets and stocks overseas, like Toyota and UBS. So they do all three. Of course! And this causes???

    “ US Food Banks Warn Soaring Prices Will Affect Distributions (ZH)”

    Powell says inflation is a good thing.

    We also hear that it’s “Hyperinflation” and “Transitory Hyperinflation” (BoA). As we’re about to be in it, as we’re in 20% inflation already, use the words correctly or you can’t think straight. Although there is no clear definition, “Hyper” inflation is very high. Certainly well over 50%p.a. and probably in the multi-hundred percents. What they’re talking about is just “inflation.” And while high inflation can go on quite a while — 50% inflation in young, productive Brazil went on many years — “hyper” inflation is indeed transitory. Because it’s the signal that confidence in government has collapsed. And government collapsing only takes a year or two. That was true of high inflation in Brazil as well, it’s a consequence of confidence, but hyperinflation is everyone fleeing government and going “private.” Usually because the government itself has indicated their total absence of the rule of law, and usually rapacious attempt to save their corruption with open theft and widespread confiscation.

    Wiemar, the usual example, lost confidence when it seemed Russian-style communists might take over, and then started confiscating everything. They had been printing astoundingly since WWI all along without effect. How did they, and France, restabilize? They created a “backed” currency – although backed by lies – in the RentenMark, that is, a currency backed by real estate, rents. France did the same back by (stolen) lands, mostly Church. …Because any group that does this, that breaks property rights, can’t be trusted with a hatpin, both later fell as usual. But it was CONFIDENCE that stopped it.

    But there’s your inflation. So when I say “Is there anything that can discredit them?” that is what will happen if “credit” is lost. But Powell says it’s a GOOD thing when prices rise for the poor, so not to worry! He also says the only BAD inflation is when wages rise, for the poor, even a tiny bit. For 40 years in a row.

    “bureaucratic process” to marry…

    The State is our God. Why the feck would you ask, consult, care, if the STATE will allow you to marry or not. Just do it. It’s YOUR thing, not theirs. Same thing I said about gay marriage. And? I wouldn’t ask them to shine my shoes because they’d steal them, much less oversee my marriage. “...But there’s inheritance, legal rights you get…” So it’s all about the money? You’re talking marriage, and that’s all you care about? Fine, hire a lawyer and contract them instead of the state, I guarantee it’ll ultimately be cheaper AND better.

    If they want to get married, join hands, wrap a ribbon, you’re done. Heck, bring him a corn pudding which is how the natives did it. They won’t even notice. Boom, all set. The State…is there anything that can get people to stop begging murderers and criminals for permission to live and breathe? Stop looking to them. You’re the ones giving them power which is the SAME power that keeps Assange in prison. Get married. They literally can’t stop you. They don’t even have to know and it’s better if they don’t. Later they’ll take 90% of your money in divorce courts, dividing it between the judge and lawyers and go golfing. JHC.

    Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson, was recruited by US authorities”

    Speaking of. That is, “perjury-for-hire.” Or even blackmail him. Just like all FBI cases. What was it, the year before Trump, the NYT had an article that 90% of all terrorist cases were completely manufactured, with cash, by the FBI, not one of them would have happened? But then, Lo! TDS, Jan 20th, the FBI became lily-white and were best friend and sole source for the NY Times, and remains so to this day. When you’re violently anti-free speech, as they are, it only makes sense your core ally is the FBI, which is against all 10 Bill of Rights plus most of the Federal Register.

    I’d be amazed if you could FIND an FBI case that was real, organic, unpaid, unpolitical crime. They certainly were defending Whitey Bulgur for years, keeping him out of prison and killin’ folks. …That was Mueller, wasn’t it? The Boy Scout?

    Don’t look to the state. Remove their power by ignoring them and making other plans.

    #78374
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @John Day, interesting blog post. Thank you.

    #78375
    cserrate
    Participant

    V. Arnold:

    To avoid ads or junk on my Ipad, I just disable Javascript. No ads, dancing bears, or unwanted things.

    #78376
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    IRunInTheSand: (from 6/26 TAE) Nice job!! You went straight to the horse’s mouth for blood donation info. 🙂 Gotta love how easy it is to follow the science these days …

    ” … no way to know whether …”
    ” … it is possible that …”
    ” … it is thought that …”
    ” … I am not aware of …”
    ” … no known risks …”

    Mark Edmunds, M.D. Chief Medical Officer of the Red Cross

    #78377
    Dimitri
    Participant

    @ dr John Day

    Your blog is fantastic

    #78378
    absolute galore
    Participant

    I have to go to a retina specialist every three months to check on eye surgeries I’ve had. Friday the nurse doing my initial eye scan asked if I was vaccinated. I said yes.

    She said which one? Phizer? I said no.
    She said Moderna?
    No, uh,Johnson & Johnson.

    About a minute goes by.
    I say, Actually, I’m not vaccinated.
    Oookay.
    It’s the first time someone aksed me directly, and I guess I was worried I wouldn’t get the checkup.
    We don’t care. The doctor just likes to know.

    Fair enough. I like the doctor. He did not bring it up. We chatted about my kid and his first grandchild. But I suspect I will be getting that question more often going forward. (It was doubly embarrassing because I came in without a mask–I thought the sign said wear one if you have a cough. But as I walked into the waiting room, they immediately told me to mask up–and then found out I wasn’t vaccinated!

    I guess I will base my response on the particular circumstance,but hope to use “I have God’s immunity” at least once. God in this case being Ivermectin, which, even if I said it, nobody has heard of, even the few people I know who are not vaccinated. Meanwhile, went to the local supermarket on Main Street again, and I am still the only person in there not wearing a mask.

    #78379
    oxymoron
    Participant

    The state treated that bad man Jesus real nice too. Never look to the state unless you are working an angle and then proceed with caution.

    #78380
    oxymoron
    Participant

    There has been chatter for a while now – particularly with The Social Dilemma movie about algorithmic news feeds and the risks of ending up in your own echo chamber etc. I have been thinking how this forum has ‘trends of info’ and – I guess types of people with similar perspectives but being a feed that is not calibrated by Youtube or Facebook or whatever, but calibrated and directed by Raul and then co-evolved by the forum members. This dodges some major bullshit bullets. Also ideas regularly get supported or challenged. This is biologic not algorithmic and I very much like that.

    I like it very much. Nearly as much as I like saying I buy horse-paste to fight COVID. Tickles me.

    #78381
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @ absolute: aren’t you somewhere in NYS? I’m in CNY. Initially I would be one of the only (and at times only) person in a store without a mask. But at this point the majority of people are maskless (75% maybe?) and the plexiglass is finally starting to come down!!! (didn’t realize how much I hated that plexiglass until it was taken down).

    #78382
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Snowden piece – Dissidents in closed or closing societies naturally come to understand the 16th-century wisdom of Étienne de La Boétie: the State is an abstraction, which depends on citizens — individuals — to execute its will.
    https://edwardsnowden.substack.com/p/on-censorship-pt-1?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo0MDA4ODY3OCwicG9zdF9pZCI6Mzc4NzMwNjMsIl8iOiJWbU5XYSIsImlhdCI6MTYyNDc5OTM5MywiZXhwIjoxNjI0ODAyOTkzLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMzc1Mjc4Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.eeVCAR_Nxe15DTzCZPgN5O7FDeSTcbHYutLkm1QbUls

    It’s very pertinent to me right now given the social awkwardness of wanting to discuss the current changes to the way the world works. There is so much self-censorship or reading of the room so to speak. It is socially disabling for me because I want to discuss these things but people really freak out. I am largely debt free and have committed a truck-load of reading time over the last year and a half and feel waaaaaaay more researched but people just think because they read a few headline news items that we are on an equal playing field. It’s also kind of rude. I am putting in a huge effort with facts and data and reading and podcasts and videos and papers (Vander bosch and the rest – you all know what I’m talking about) and you get lines like ‘well I guess we get different information don’t we’ or ‘ you are not another one of those anti-vaxer tin hat freaks are ya?.
    ‘Ah no – I just read and analysed and you just accepted whispers in your ears and got angry and frightened’
    Then someone comes along and says John Stewart is sooooo onto it. OMG.
    I’m going to bed.

    #78383
    zerosum
    Participant

    This war has many names – VARIANT – Eugenics is the practice or advocacy of improving the human species by selectively mating people with specific desirable hereditary traits. It aims to reduce human suffering by “breeding out” disease, disabilities and so-called undesirable characteristics from the human population.

    This war has many casualties –

    https://www.wfp.org/publications/global-report-food-crises-2021
    Global Report on Food Crises – 2021
    Author name: FSIN
    Publication type: Reports
    Topics: Analyses and assessments, Food security analysis (VAM)

    https://docs.wfp.org/api/documents/WFP-0000127343/download/

    The 2021 Global Report on Food Crises (GRFC 2021) highlights the remarkably high severity and numbers of people in Crisis or worse (IPC/CH Phase 3 or above) or equivalent in 55 countries/territories, driven by persistent conflict, pre-existing and COVID-19-related economic shocks, and weather extremes. The number identified in the 2021 edition is the highest in the report’s five-year existence. The report is produced by the Global Network against Food Crises (which includes WFP), an international alliance working to address the root causes of extreme hunger.
    ————
    We have another problem …..
    Incomes are not keeping up/rising with all the rising costs
    Property taxes set to rise
    school tax rates 2021 rising

    #78384
    zerosum
    Participant

    Have you noticed?
    Live TV is recorded!
    Commercials are the same for all the stations!
    Commercials are coordinated to appear at the same time slots!

    #78386
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks for reading the blog Upstate NYer and Dimitri.
    I hope this is the case, though the GWOT coming to the US, since the seat of empire has to consume itself, now, is bleak.
    I don’t expect outside saviors.

    #78387
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Relevant to a lot of the topics being discussed on TAE is this conversation between Greg Moffett and James Tunney as they talk about his book Empire of Scientism: The Dispiriting Conspiracy and Inevitable Tyranny of Scientocracy.

    We are in danger of ceding power to a centralised cadre of bureaucrats and billionaires who assume authority to exercise power as they wish, believing they know better. The materialist paradigm has given rise to an ideology of scientism, an idolatry of technology, and an obsession with control and surveillance that is shared by communists and capitalists alike.

    Scientism is the expansion of science beyond appropriate boundaries to become an exclusive dogma. Hitherto separate and competing forces are now coalescing in a community based on the application of science to governance. Some scientists have described this movement towards a scientific world government, and yet those who protest are called delusional.

    The emergent Empire of Scientism will be hostile to religion, spirituality, and human rights and will promote transhumanism, post-humanism, and represent the demise of homo sapiens. This is the endgame as conceived by certain mainstream scientists and their sycophants. Unless we wake up and embrace our spiritual consciousness, we are doomed to suffer totalitarian rule before our final demise.

    First half is free, second behind a paywall.

    Highly recommended.

    #78388
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “Fortunately there are enough un-vaccinated people that the Marek’s Disease sort of disaster will not happen so long as enough people refuse..” (Denninger)

    I had to look up Marek’s Disease since Denninger didn’t provide further information. The related problem with the vaccines for Covid-19 is that they are “leaky.” ”

    “It’s important to note childhood vaccines for polio, measles, mumps, rubella and smallpox aren’t leaky”

    The deadliest strains of viruses often take care of themselves — they flare up and then die out. This is because they are so good at destroying cells and causing illness that they ultimately kill their host before they have time to spread.

    But a chicken virus that represents one of the deadliest germs in history breaks from this conventional wisdom, thanks to an inadvertent effect from a vaccine. Chickens vaccinated against Marek’s disease rarely get sick. But the vaccine does not prevent them from spreading Marek’s to unvaccinated birds…

    In fact, rather than stop fowl from spreading the virus, the vaccine allows the disease to spread faster and longer than it normally would, a new study finds. The scientists now believe that this vaccine has helped this chicken virus become uniquely virulent.

    The reason this is a problem for Marek’s disease is because the vaccine is “leaky.” A leaky vaccine is one that keeps a microbe from doing serious harm to its host, but doesn’t stop the disease from replicating and spreading to another individual. On the other hand, a “perfect” vaccine is one that sets up lifelong immunity that never wanes and blocks both infection and transmission.

    It’s important to note childhood vaccines for polio, measles, mumps, rubella and smallpox aren’t leaky; they are considered “perfect” vaccines. As such, they are in no way in danger of falling prey to this phenomenon.

    But the results do raise the questions for some human vaccines that are leaky…

    The 1970s introduction of the Marek’s disease immunizations for baby chicks kept the poultry industry from collapse, but people soon learned that vaccinated birds were catching “the bug” without subsequently dying. Then, over the last half century, symptoms for Marek’s worsened. Paralysis was more permanent; brains more quickly turned to mush.

    This chicken vaccine makes its virus more dangerous
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous

    #78389
    Polder Dweller
    Participant
    #78390
    Kimo
    Participant

    Via the Fat Emperor, a peer reviewed study in Vaccine journal, with the cost/benefit conclusion of our wonderful vaccines:
    “Currently, our estimates show that we have to accept four fatal and serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations in order to save the lives of 2–11 individuals per 100,000 vaccinations, placing risks and benefits on the same order of magnitude.”
    https://thefatemperor.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/The-Safety-of-COVID-19-Vaccinations%E2%80%94We-Should-Rethink-the-Policy.pdf
    His analysis of the paper:
    https://odysee.com/@IvorCummins:f/Mass-Medication-Benefits-versus-Harms—What-is-the-Current-Situation:b

    #78391
    Boris Seymour
    Participant

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/This-Bay-Area-county-sorts-COVID-into-vaccinated-16275590.php
    “Contra Costa is the first county in the Bay Area to publicly break out new coronavirus cases among vaccinated and unvaccinated residents, and the numbers show a stark disparity — virtually all those now being infected have not gotten their shots.”

    #78392
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I get food from from a food bank once a month…in Arizona.
    Fortunately, most of the food received was not purchased by the food bank. Most of the food handed out is “reclaimed food” donated by grocery stores and wholesale or restaurant sources. (The non-reclaimed food is mostly all in the food box. Food box contains non-perishables, for example: spaghetti, tomato sauce, dried fruit, canned fruit, canned vegetables, dry beans, rice, half gallon of fruit juice, canned meat.)
    Reclaimed food is wonderful. Sometimes, it is close to the expiration, and must be eaten or preserved immediately. Or given away. Some may already be too far gone for human enjoyment — but not so far gone that a hen doesn’t enjoy it. Often, the food isn’t close to expiration, and I wonder if it is from accidental restaurant over-orders, etc. If food-insecure families are willing to wait a few days for a Thanksgiving feast, stopping by the food bank shortly after Thanksgiving will yield bags of stuffing mix, premade traditional favorites (stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy, turkey breast) that just need to be heated, bags of potatoes, bunches of celery, tons of onions, etc.

    I don’t know if other states have food bank systems that work this well, “rescuing” food that would otherwise head to a landfill. And I don’t know how much the food that is a part of the federal and other programs that they participate in is funded by government sources, (government funds may be a fixed amount,) and how much rising prices affect them. (I also know that the food bank “meat box” prices for a few pounds of meat can be beat by the price of nearly any grocery store’s current week’s specials in the meat department.) Certainly the food banks would be affected by rising energy prices as they try to keep donated food preserved long enough to get it into people’s hands.

    #78393
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @zerosum: I noticed. That’s why Colbert knew exactly what Stewart was going to say. It was an act.

    #78394
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I helped with a musical performance at retirement community yesterday. Had a nice conversation with a friend. I am cautious telling people too much about Covid and vaccination…I have learned so much through TAE that my knowledge can overwhelm short conversations…not to mention the potential for cognitive dissonance in the other conversant. So I just touch on the edges. And told my friend — if you get Covid despite your vaccination, or this happens to those close to you — let me know, I know what can help. Maybe that is all I’ll emphasize in short conversations. I also know of one local doctor willing to prescribe HCQ back in October 2020….

    Ironic, all the retirement community folks with their proud vaccination ribbons, with their non-sterilizing, leaky Covid immunity…insisting on masking me, who has sterilizing immunity. I passed a damn PCR test 11 days post symptom onset. I passed Covid onto no one. I was a viral dead end. My immune system rocks! (Of course, my father, in his early seventies, weathered Covid with no symptoms and has shown antibodies to Covid twice now…since he quarantined with my symptomatic mother, he also did not pass Covid on…he must be a rock god.)

    #78395
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Marek’s disease is awful. I’ve had unvaccinated chicks die from it.

    #78396
    John Day
    Participant

    @Kimo: That second link to the Cummins paper is internet-MIA now.

    #78397
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    @ John Day

    That linked page (missing) was primarily about a video which can still be viewed via Cummins’ twitter page:
    https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1409156353986269186

    #78398
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @oxy: You have two thoughtful posts today that, I think, are two sides of the same coin. First you contemplate whether TAE is an echo chamber. I’ve been thinking about this lately but wasn’t astute enough to identify the calibrations here as “biologic” and “co-evolved” (well done). I look at TAE like a favorite neighborhood pub where you stop in for a beer with people who are *relatively* like minded. At any given time someone at the pub may veer off in a new direction or toss out a new theory. These events initiate a [fairly] respectful debate, much as they would at your pub. No one is summarily shut down or censored for their viewpoint.

    You also posted about how awkward it is to discuss current changes to the way the world works with most people because they aren’t open to even seeing alternatives. You find the need to “read the room” and censor what you are saying “socially disabling” (another excellent descriptor).

    This fissure started well in advance of the pandemic. Example: over the past five years, TDS meant you could not have a reasonable conversation about politics with anyone unless they were “on the same team.” I don’t watch news (local or otherwise) and don’t do social media so wasn’t impacted by the TDS hoopla, but several years ago I asked a close friend, when he was complaining about a Trump tweet, just when it was a tweet became headline news? Response: “I don’t know, it just is.” There is absolutely no way to have an open discussion with a mind that is that closed.

    TDS has now been replaced by CDS (covid derangement syndrome), which means you literally cannot have a reasonable conversation with anyone about the pandemic unless they are “on the same team”. It does not matter how many facts you offer, nor the credentials of the people who provided those facts.

    Bottom line, either avoid the landmine or find a new “real life” local pub to hang out in. 😉

    And now for today’s latest news: stay tuned for revisions to the narrative …

    #78399
    Topcat
    Participant

    Brace yourself for the Fall ‘variant’ = you gotta have a Booster con job propaganda.

    The Booster Bust will go down better in Blue States.

    It’s obvious by now that Trump Derangement Syndrome has morphed into Covid Derangement Syndrome.

    The Red States are far and away more open and less locked down than the Blue States.

    This is a Darwin Award contest between states.

    Fifty states, fifty different approaches.

    There will be winners and big time losers.

    There already is, look at Texas and Florida vs Californicate and New York.

    Look at the drop in populations and tax base migration. The Biden Junta will try to prop up the Blue states with Fed dollars but will fail because the red ink is piling up in Blue States at a shocking rate.

    Blue states are starting to lose representatives in Congress because of people voting with their feet.

    Even dirtbags like Goldman Sachs moved to Florida, abandoning Wall St to BLM Wokesters to squat in. Hahahaha!

    #78400
    Topcat
    Participant

    From Zerohedge

    Losing The Plot On COVID
    By Dan Rabil

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/06/losing_the_plot_on_covid.html

    …”In a future sane world, people will view the orchestrated panic of the COVID era with the same bemused condescension we might view the supposed War of the Worlds radio invasion scare of 1938, or the bygone use of leeches for seemingly every ailment…”

    War of the Worlds freakout

    Spoiler Alert: The Aliens were finally killed by Coronavirus!

    hahahahahaha!

    #78401
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Raúl: “Why is the R rate highest in the most vaccinated countries?”

    Going a little deeper, the top 3 “most vaccinated” countries (looking at the percentage of the population that’s fully vaccinated against Covid) are Israel (60%), Bahrain (57%), and Chile (54%). (Our World in Data)

    Israel’s vaccines have been 100% Pfizer.
    Bahrain’s vaccines have been mostly Sinopharm (more than 60%).
    Chile’s vaccines have been mostly Sinovac (around 80%).

    This month (June 2021), the R rate for Bahrain and Chile have been trending downward, with both countries now having an R of less than 1, while Israel’s R rate has been trending upward and is currently greater than 2.

    Link to graph

    Related data links will appear in my next comment.

    #78402
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Boris: can’t read the cfchronicle article without a subscription? Not knowing what it says, some points to ponder:

    What prompts the “testing” of individuals at this point? Symptoms? Track/trace exposure? Exposure to whom? (Apparently non-vaccinated individuals since “virtually” no vaccinated individual is testing positive for covid.)

    CDC changed guidelines for PCR testing in vaccinated to 28 cycles or less. How many cycles are being used in PCR testing for non-vaccinated?

    Considering the unreliability of PRC testing at higher than 28 cycles, how is contra costa defining a “case” in non-vaccinated? Test results only? Symptoms?

    How many of these “cases” in non-vaccinated individuals resulted in hospitalization or death?

    It has gotten so easy to poke holes in health official narratives it’s almost not worth the effort anymore.

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    Doc Robinson
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    #78404
    Kimo
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    @ John Day
    I attached the paper to this upload, a helping hand might be needed to expose it to readers.
    @Doc Robinson
    Thanks for replying to John.

    #78405
    upstateNYer
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    @Topcat: ” … but will fail because the red ink is piling up in Blue States at a shocking rate.”

    I’m still laughing so hard I can barely breathe.

    With love from,
    NY

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    Kimo
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    USA Socialism: The debate is over.
    I’d like to point out, that the classic debate over what socialism would look like in the USA is over. In the past, for the progressive the answer was Sweden, for the conservatives the answer was communist countries.
    Well, Covid-19 response has answered the question.
    Consider that Sweden did not choose lock downs, and China did.
    Liberal states choose very restrictive lock downs, resembling communist China much more than socialist Sweden. Progressives in favor of lock downs really need to take an inward look, and admit the leaders they choose to follow are in favor controlling the actions of others at the first opportunity. Swedish styled socialism is not the apparent goal. A generation of progressive leaders, and those farther left, need to be flushed from the system.
    Kimo

    #78407
    upstateNYer
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    Btw, New York State wouldn’t be quite so blue if New York City would simply secede, like most of the rest of the state has been hoping for for decades. NYC can form its own district, or whatever, and purchase the resources it needs … how would Dr D state this? … oh, right, NYC can purchase the things the people in NYC actually need to survive … food, water, power, a place to put their trash … they can purchase it from the rest of NY state. As for us poor, ignorant “upstaters”? We’ll live quite fine on the income we earn by providing said resources to said NYC district. And, bonus!, in return NYC can keep ALL those tax dollars it generates AND all the revenue it generates from, idk, I guess it’s tourism, the financial industry, and other schemes like that.

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