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Vaccines: Reasons for Concern (Alex Berenson)
European Union Reports 1.5 Million Vaccine Injuries, 15,472 Deaths (TN)
The ‘Big Lie’ Of Jabs Comes Unglued (Denninger)
Singapore’s Surprising New Plan To ‘Live With Covid’ (News.com.au)
J&J To Stop Selling Opioids In US, Reaches $230 Million Settlement (MSN)
A “Leap” toward Humanity’s Destruction (Whitney Webb)
United States Ranks Last In Media Trust (Turley)
US Food Banks Warn Soaring Prices Will Affect Distributions (ZH)
Stella Moris Says She Plans To Marry Julian Assange In Belmarsh Prison (RT)
Key Witness In Assange Case Admits To Lies In Indictment (Stundin)

 

 

 

 

McCullough: early treatment can’t be stopped

 

 

Why is the R rate highest in the most vaccinated countries?

 

 

Part 2: Why does the CDC keep calling post-Covid vaccine heart problems in young men “rare” and “mild” when they are neither?

Vaccines: Reasons for Concern (Alex Berenson)

At [Wednesday’s CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP)] meeting, CDC scientists presented horrendous data. It showed that even without accounting for underreporting, a second dose of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines could increase the risk of problems up to 200-fold in young men. But the scientists then went on to suggest the vaccines should still given – even to kids already suffering from heart problems. The CDC’s focus yesterday was on two illnesses, myocarditis and pericarditis, forms of heart inflammation that can occasionally progress to heart failure and even death. The CDC and many reporters insist on calling the cases mild. In fact 95 percent of the 300+ post-vaccination cases the CDC has reviewed have led to hospitalization.

Keep in mind cases are continuing to come in, and the agency hasn’t reviewed all the cases it has already received. This issue is part of a bigger problem, which is that the volume of side effects reports that the CDC has received on the Covid vaccines has overwhelmed its monitoring system. To give you a sense of the problem: In all of 2019, the CDC’s voluntary vaccine side effect reporting system received about 48,000 reports for ALL vaccines. So far in 2021 it has received at least seven times that many for Covid vaccines alone. Also keep in mind that heart inflammation is only ONE potential problem the vaccines may cause. The CDC and journalists generally like to compare each individual vaccine side effect to ALL the risks of Covid, a slight-of-hand that has the effect of making the vaccines seem safer. In fact, the CDC’s own data shows that for every 100,000 vaccines given to young people, more than 25,000 will have temporary side effects that prevent them from “normal activities,” 700 will require medical care and 200 will be hospitalized.

In contrast, the CDC estimates that only about 50 out of 100,000 adolescents have EVER been hospitalized for Covid-related illness.

Of course, not everyone has gotten Covid – the CDC estimates that about 1/3 of Americans have. (Most never had a positive test, and many never even knew.) Thus, if EVERYONE got Covid, it is reasonable to assume the 50 Covid hospitalizations out of 100,000 adolescents rate might be about three times as high – or 150 per 100,000. But even the 150 per 100,000 rate is LOWER than the 200 per 100,000 rate of adolescents who are hospitalized in the first week after being vaccinated. In other words, even if vaccinations stopped every case of Covid in 12-17 year olds forever, and even if they never had side effects after the first week, it is hard to see how the risk-benefit ratio supports vaccination.


That’s especially true for healthy teens. Most Covid hospitalizations occur in people with other illnesses, including diabetes or chronic lung conditions. But in its presentation Wednesday, the CDC instead claimed that the rate of hospitalization in adolescents was roughly 400 out of 14,000 cases, or close to 2,900 per 100,000 – almost 20 times what its own data shows. (Estimating three deaths out of 14,000 adolescent cases is even less credible.) And it did not look at the combined rate of all post-vaccine hospitalizations, only those related to myocarditis.

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“From the total of injuries recorded, half of them (753,657) are serious injuries..”

European Union Reports 1.5 Million Vaccine Injuries, 15,472 Deaths (TN)

A subscriber from Europe recently emailed us and reminded us that this database maintained at EudraVigilance is only for countries in Europe who are part of the European Union (EU), which comprises 27 countries. The total number of countries in Europe is much higher, almost twice as many, numbering around 50, although there are some differences of opinion as to which countries are technically part of Europe. So as high as these numbers are, they do NOT reflect all of Europe. The actual number in Europe who are reported dead or injured due to COVID-19 shots would be much higher than what we are reporting here. The EudraVigilance database reports that through June 19, 2021 there are 15,472 deaths and 1,509,266 injuries reported following injections of four experimental COVID-19 shots:
COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE MODERNA (CX-024414)
COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE PFIZER-BIONTECH
COVID-19 VACCINE ASTRAZENECA (CHADOX1 NCOV-19)
COVID-19 VACCINE JANSSEN (AD26.COV2.S)


From the total of injuries recorded, half of them (753,657) are serious injuries. “Seriousness provides information on the suspected undesirable effect; it can be classified as ‘serious’ if it corresponds to a medical occurrence that results in death, is life-threatening, requires inpatient hospitalisation, results in another medically important condition, or prolongation of existing hospitalisation, results in persistent or significant disability or incapacity, or is a congenital anomaly/birth defect.” A Health Impact News subscriber in Europe ran the reports for each of the four COVID-19 shots we are including here. This subscriber has volunteered to do this, and it is a lot of work to tabulate each reaction with injuries and fatalities, since there is no place on the EudraVigilance system we have found that tabulates all the results.

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“Fortunately there are enough un-vaccinated people that the Marek’s Disease sort of disaster will not happen so long as enough people refuse..”

The ‘Big Lie’ Of Jabs Comes Unglued (Denninger)

Here it is folks… “According to multiple sources, two unvaccinated NC State players tested positive for COVID-19 this week, prompting the NCAA to test the entire roster, including vaccinated players. Four positive tests came back from that round of testing, prompting the no-contest ruling. All four of the latest positive tests came from vaccinated individuals who were in the dugout for Friday’s game against Vanderbilt, per multiple sources.”

So in other words: 1. The team members originally subject to testing were only subject to testing because they refused to risk having their heart destroyed by the jabs (along with the risk of occlusive strokes and similar.) Thus the NCAA demanded they, and only they, have swabs shoved up their nose. 2. This shoving of swabs “disclosed” (such as it is, knowing the PCR false-positive and not-infectious-but-positive problems) two “infections”, neither of which were in obviously-ill people. 3. That prompted the testing of those who were coerced into taking the risk of heart failure via the jabs and when they were tested, all of whom were allegedly immune which is the claimed outcome of such jabs and the claimed reason to let someone give you them, it was disclosed they were in fact not immune at all and four of those people were also positive.

In other words the shots are worthless to prevent acquisition and propagation of the disease; their failure rate in doing so is enormous and their efficacy in that regard is nowhere near the percentages claimed by all the *******s involved, including Vanderbilt, the CDC, TNDOH and others. There are 35 players on a D1 roster by NCAA rules so at best the jabs failed to prevent acquisition and propagation of the virus more than 11% of the time and it likely is worse than that since the odds are high a third or more of the players had pre-existing immunity via prior infection, most without knowing it, before they got jabbed. This in turn means that the likely actual failure rate for sterilizing immunity is probably somewhere between 30-50% while the science thus far for infection-conferred sterilizing immunity (study out of the Cleveland Clinic) is nearly 100%.

IT IS NOW CONCLUSIVELY PROVED THE JABS DO NOT WORK TO PREVENT ACQUISITION AND PROPAGATION OF THE VIRUS SO SHUT THE **** UP SCREAMING KAREN. Of course nobody sequenced all six of these people to figure out whether one of them was the index. It would be wildly embarrassing to find out that one of the vaccinated players was in fact the index, so that will not be looked at, deliberately, because to find and report that would instantly destroy any and all argument of alleged “community protection” from said shots.

[..] This garbage continues today in that this incident proves that the shots do not provide sterilizing immunity even among immuno-competent individuals which is arguably presumptive in someone in good enough physical condition to be competitive in D1 collegiate baseball. It is always true that an immune-compromised person may not get sterilizing (or any) immunity for a vaccine because their immune system is not working properly but the lack of sterilizing immunity on a broad basis in immune-competent individuals is what produces recombination and ultimately mutation. Fortunately there are enough un-vaccinated people that the Marek’s Disease sort of disaster will not happen so long as enough people refuse, as if the mutation produced by all the idiots who took the jabs is more-virulent it still leads to shunning as soon as it finds an unvaccinated host and thus loses the genetic lottery.

Ivermectin in media lockdown

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“The bad news is that Covid-19 may never go away. The good news is that it is possible to live normally with it in our midst..”

Singapore’s Surprising New Plan To ‘Live With Covid’ (News.com.au)

A country that has been one of the world’s most successful at combating Covid-19 has announced it will soon fundamentally change how it manages the pandemic. The city state of Singapore has stated covid will be treated like other endemic diseases such as flu. There will be no goals of zero transmission. Quarantine will be dumped for travellers and close contact of cases will not have to isolate. It also plans to no longer announce daily case numbers. But you may need to take tests to head to the shops or go to work. Senior Singaporean ministers have said it is the “new normal” of “living with covid”.

“The bad news is that Covid-19 may never go away. The good news is that it is possible to live normally with it in our midst,” wrote Singapore’s trade Minister Gan Kim Yong, finance minister Lawrence Wong and health minister Ong Ye Kung said in an editorial in the Straits Times this week. “It means that the virus will continue to mutate, and thereby survive in our community.” Like most countries, Singapore had an initial peak of cases last year, topping out at 600 cases a day in mid-April. Following a smaller wave in August, Covid-19 hasn’t flared up since. However, the nation of 5.7 million, slightly larger than Sydney, has had a steady undercurrent of around 20-30 cases every day. The nation has recorded 35 deaths in total.

Singapore has strict border controls in place with most countries including tests on arrival, hotel quarantine and stay at home orders. It’s not dissimilar to Australia, but Singapore varies the demands on travellers depending on the risk in the location where they last visited. But all that would be eventually done away with under the plan put out by ministers Kung, Yong and Wong who make up Singapore’s Covid-19 multi-ministry task force. “Every year, many people catch the flu. The overwhelming majority recover without needing to be hospitalised, and with little or no medication. But a minority, especially the elderly and those with comorbidities, can get very ill, and some succumb.

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Will pay the settlement from vaccine profits…

J&J To Stop Selling Opioids In US, Reaches $230 Million Settlement (MSN)

Johnson & Johnson, one of the pharmaceutical giants accused of fueling the deadly US opioid crisis, has reached a settlement with the state of New York for $230 million and confirmed it will stop making or selling opioids in the United States. The agreement announced Saturday allows Johnson & Johnson to resolve litigation over its role in the epidemic, which has killed more than half a million people since 1999, according to a statement from New York attorney general Letitia James. For its part, in a separate statement J&J said the settlement allowed it to avoid a trial that was scheduled to begin Monday, and said the group had “made the business decision in 2020 to discontinue all of its prescription pain medications in the United States.”


The settlement “is not an admission of liability or wrongdoing by the company,” it said, noting that other nationwide legal proceedings are underway, including a trial in California. The prosecutor’s statement said the company would spread the payments over nine years. J&J could also pay an additional $30 million in the first year if the state enacts new legislation creating an opioid settlement fund. “The opioid epidemic has wreaked havoc on countless communities across New York state and the rest of the nation, leaving millions still addicted to dangerous and deadly opioids,” James said in the statement. “Johnson & Johnson helped fuel this fire, but today they’re committing to leaving the opioid business — not only in New York, but across the entire country,” she added.

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Medical surveillance.

A “Leap” toward Humanity’s Destruction (Whitney Webb)

The world’s richest medical research foundation, the Wellcome Trust, has teamed up with a pair of former DARPA directors who built Silicon Valley’s skunkworks to usher in an age of nightmarish surveillance, including for babies as young as three months old. Their agenda can only advance if we allow it. A UK nonprofit with ties to global corruption throughout the COVID-19 crisis as well as historical and current ties to the UK eugenics movement launched a global health-focused DARPA equivalent last year. The move went largely unnoticed by both mainstream and independent media.

The Wellcome Trust, which has arguably been second only to Bill Gates in its ability to influence events during the COVID-19 crisis and vaccination campaign, launched its own global equivalent of the Pentagon’s secretive research agency last year, officially to combat the “most pressing health challenges of our time.” Though first conceived of in 2018, this particular Wellcome Trust initiative was spun off from the Trust last May with $300 million in initial funding. It quickly attracted two former DARPA executives, who had previously served in the upper echelons of Silicon Valley, to manage and plan its portfolio of projects.

This global health DARPA, known as Wellcome Leap, seeks to achieve “breakthrough scientific and technological solutions” by or before 2030, with a focus on “complex global health challenges.” The Wellcome Trust is open about how Wellcome Leap will apply the approaches of Silicon Valley and venture capital firms to the health and life science sector. Unsurprisingly, their three current programs are poised to develop incredibly invasive tech-focused, and in some cases overtly transhumanist, medical technologies, including a program exclusively focused on using artificial intelligence (AI), mobile sensors, and wearable brain-mapping tech for children three years old and younger.

This Unlimited Hangout investigation explores not only the four current programs of Wellcome Leap but also the people behind it. The resulting picture is of an incredibly sinister project that poses not only a great threat to current society but to the future of humanity itself. An upcoming Unlimited Hangout investigation will examine the history of the Wellcome Trust along with its role in recent and current events.

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“It will not publish a column from a Republican senator on protests in the United States but it will publish columns from one of the Chinese leaders crushing protests for freedom in Hong Kong.”

United States Ranks Last In Media Trust (Turley)

For years, we have been discussing the decline of journalism values with the rise of open bias in the media. Now, a newly released report from the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism at Oxford has found something that would have been unthinkable just a few years ago. The United States ranked dead last in media trust among 49 countries with just 29% saying that they trusted the media. The most tragic aspect is that it does not matter. The media has embraced the advocacy journalism and anyone questioning that trend risks instant cancellation. The result is a type of state media where journalists are bound to the government by ideology rather than law. The plunging level of trust reflects the loss of the premier news organizations to a type of woke journalism.

We have have been discussing how writers, editors, commentators, and academics have embraced rising calls for censorship and speech controls, including President-elect Joe Biden and his key advisers. Even journalists are leading attacks on free speech and the free press. This includes academics rejecting the very concept of objectivity in journalism in favor of open advocacy. Columbia Journalism Dean and New Yorker writer Steve Coll has denounced how the First Amendment right to freedom of speech was being “weaponized” to protect disinformation. Likewise, the University of North Carolina recently offered an academic chair in Journalism to New York Times’ Nikole Hannah-Jones. While Hannah-Jones was awarded a Pulitzer Prize for her writing on The 1619 Project, she has been criticized for her role in purging dissenting views from the New York Times pages and embracing absurd anti-police conspiracy theories.

Even waiting for the facts is viewed as unethical today by journalism professors who demand that reporters make political or social declarations through their coverage. One of the lowest moments came with the New York Times’ mea culpa for publishing an opinion column by a conservative senator. The New York Times was denounced by many of us for its cringing apology after publishing a column by Sen. Tom Cotton (R, Ark.). and promising not to publish future such columns. It will not publish a column from a Republican senator on protests in the United States but it will publish columns from one of the Chinese leaders crushing protests for freedom in Hong Kong. Cotton was arguing that the use of national guard troops may be necessary to quell violent riots, noting the historical use of this option in past protests. This option was used most recently after the Capitol riot.

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Now add record heat in the west.

US Food Banks Warn Soaring Prices Will Affect Distributions (ZH)

Soaring food prices aren’t just impacting financially strapped families and the working poor. They’re also affecting the mission of US food banks who are spending a lot more on food than ever before. “We’re already spending a lot more on food than we have in years past,” said Greg Trotter, a spokesman for the Greater Chicago Food Depository, a large food bank, who spoke with VOA News. “Our food purchasing budget has doubled this year.” In the coming weeks and or months, food banks across the country may experience a surge in food demand from millions of folks who are set to have their stimmy checks expire. At least 25 states are ending federal unemployment benefits.

The perfect storm of factors (soaring food costs and unemployment benefits expiring) may stress food banks even further. “The high prices are costing us more to feed a family in need,” said Alison Padget, development and outreach director at Food for Others. “We’ll have to rethink our purchasing decisions because economists say the prices are going to be high for at least a year.” In Phoenix, Arizona, Jerry Brown, director of public relations at St. Mary’s Food Bank, told VOA that food banks could face severe difficulty once federal money dries up. It seems the problem has already begun at the Community Food Bank of New Jersey, which covers a large portion of the state. Impact leader Triada Stampas said the food bank serves more people than ever because of out-of-control prices at grocery stores.

According to Father English Food Pantry officials in Paterson, New Jersey, the food bank is already experiencing financial strain. Kelly Mott, external affairs director at the Mississippi Food Network, said, “We already see the price changes will affect us soon, adding that “we are in the process of buying turkeys for the Thanksgiving holiday in November. And since they are so expensive, we won’t be able to purchase as many as we usually do, especially for the families with children who rely on us.”

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“The most likely thing is that we’ll get married in the prison and then we’ll have another kind of wedding celebration with friends and family once he’s free.”

Stella Moris Says She Plans To Marry Julian Assange In Belmarsh Prison (RT)

Stella Moris, the partner of Julian Assange, has said that she and the WikiLeaks co-founder will tie the knot while he is in Belmarsh prison, and expressed hope he will be released soon so that there can be a proper celebration. Moris, a lawyer who began her relationship with Assange during the years he spent claiming political asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, told German news agency DPA that the couple has been engaged since 2016 and will press ahead with their wedding plans, even if it means getting married in the maximum-security London prison. Moris and Assange have two sons, aged four and two and a half.


She acknowledged, however, that the “bureaucratic process” to obtain permission for the ceremony would take time, and that the ceremony has been further complicated by Covid-19 restrictions. Apart from needing to obtain relevant documents from their respective home countries, there is concern that the marriage could be hampered by the fact that Assange’s UK visa has expired. It’s also unclear if any guests would be allowed to attend the prison ceremony due to the health crisis. In theory, Assange could be let out of Belmarsh for a day so that he could get married, but there is already a large backlog of delayed weddings due to the country’s lockdown. “[I]f we get married in the prison, then I don’t think that will be the only celebration,” Moris told the outlet. “The most likely thing is that we’ll get married in the prison and then we’ll have another kind of wedding celebration with friends and family once he’s free.”

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Problem is, we’ve known for years that Thordarson is a convicted pedophile and a serial liar. But his “testimony” is still there.

Edward Snowden @Snowden: “This is the end of the case against Julian Assange.”

“If Biden continues to seek the extradition of a publisher under an indictment poisoned top-to-bottom with false testimony admitted by its own star witness, the damage to the United States’ reputation on press freedom would last for a generation. It’s unavoidable.”

Key Witness In Assange Case Admits To Lies In Indictment (Stundin)

A major witness in the United States’ Department of Justice case against Julian Assange has admitted to fabricating key accusations in the indictment against the Wikileaks founder. The witness, who has a documented history with sociopathy and has received several convictions for sexual abuse of minors and wide-ranging financial fraud, made the admission in a newly published interview in Stundin where he also confessed to having continued his crime spree whilst working with the Department of Justice and FBI and receiving a promise of immunity from prosecution. The man in question, Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson, was recruited by US authorities to build a case against Assange after misleading them to believe he was previously a close associate of his.

In fact he had volunteered on a limited basis to raise money for Wikileaks in 2010 but was found to have used that opportunity to embezzle more than $50,000 from the organization. Julian Assange was visiting Thordarson’s home country of Iceland around this time due to his work with Icelandic media and members of parliament in preparing the Icelandic Modern Media Initiative, a press freedom project that produced a parliamentary resolution supporting whistleblowers and investigative journalism. [..] The court documents refer to Mr Thordarson simply as “Teenager” (a reference to his youthful appearance rather than true age, he is 28 years old) and Iceland as “NATO Country 1” but make no real effort to hide the identity of either. They purport to show that Assange instructed Thordarson to commit computer intrusions or hacking in Iceland.

The aim of this addition to the indictment was apparently to shore up and support the conspiracy charge against Assange in relation to his interactions with Chelsea Manning. Those occurred around the same time he resided in Iceland and the authors of the indictment felt they could strengthen their case by alleging he was involved in illegal activity there as well. This activity was said to include attempts to hack into the computers of members of parliament and record their conversations. In fact, Thordarson now admits to Stundin that Assange never asked him to hack or access phone recordings of MPs. His new claim is that he had in fact received some files from a third party who claimed to have recorded MPs and had offered to share them with Assange without having any idea what they actually contained.

He claims he never checked the contents of the files or even if they contained audio recordings as his third party source suggested. He further admits the claim, that Assange had instructed or asked him to access computers in order to find any such recordings, is false. Nonetheless, the tactics employed by US officials appear to have been successful as can be gleaned from the ruling of Magistrate Court Judge Vanessa Baraitser on January 4th of this year. Although she ruled against extradition, she did so purely on humanitarian grounds relating to Assange’s health concerns, suicide risk and the conditions he would face in confinement in US prisons. With regards to the actual accusations made in the indictment Baraitser sided with the arguments of the American legal team, including citing the specific samples from Iceland which are now seriously called into question.

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    Henri Matisse The pink studio 1911   • Vaccines: Reasons for Concern (Alex Berenson) • European Union Reports 1.5 Million Vaccine Injuries, 15,47
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 27 2021]

    #78368
    V. Arnold
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    The internet is a poisoned well; dip from it what you will…
    Every bit of useful information is weighed and measured for it’s value and priced accordingly..
    Even Ilargi’s site is flooded with bullshit ads; and I contribute $20 USD/month; but drownd in the utter flood of garbage………
    To be clear, I don’t blame Ilargi; but wonder, what the hell can be done to stop this shit…
    The dearest information comes at a heavy price…and I’m fucking fed up with the whole bullshit result…
    I do not know the solution; but I’m damned close to trashing the whole fucking internet and it’s corrupted culture…

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    #78369
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Ohh, there’s more; lots more to be sure…
    I just don’t have a clear path forward…

    #78370
    John Day
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    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/06/farewell-world-war-three.html

    Today’s meme seems kind of odd, but I like the analogy presented by Thierry Meyssan that the Global War On Terror was World War Three and the “evil empire” lost and had to agree to some terms at the recent meeting between Putin and Biden.
    Europe is having to foot the bill for now, but the price of the bill can be negotiated down, which is why Merkel wants to meet directly with Putin (and Macron). (NATO tool) Poland is currently objecting to that, but it looks inevitable. My personal opinion is that this negotiation was better settled before the global financial collapse/reset, so it could be less-worser. The days of the petrobuck are numbered. I just don’t know what the number is.
    Thanks for sending me this collection of articles, Eleni (in neocolonialized Greece). The one I found about the new war on domestic middle-aged white racist terrorists in America fits right in, since the same tactics that worked so well against Sunni and Shia Muslims can be readily adapted to work against woke and un-woke Americans.

    First, the basis of the failed Global War On Brown People in oil and mineral places.
    The Rumsfeld/Cebrowski doctrine, by Thierry Meyssan
    For two decades, the Pentagon has been applying the “Rumsfeld/Cebrowski doctrine” to the “wider Middle East”. Several times, it thought of extending it to the “Caribbean Basin”, but refrained from doing so, concentrating its power on its first target. The Pentagon acts as an autonomous decision-making center that is effectively outside the power of the president. It is a civil-military administration that imposes its objectives on the rest of the military.

    #78371
    John Day
    Participant

    Hi V.Arnold. I have a couple more Dwarf Namwah bananas planted (last weekend) in Yoakum, along with 2 Dwarf Orinoco (similar cooking banana) an Apple Banana and a Blue Java. They are not dead a week later in what was a black-bean patch after the February deep-freeze, and is now a nascent winter (“Fairy”) squash patch.

    #78372
    Veracious Poet
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    Well, it appears that ClownWorld is in full effect, & the Military-Medical Industrial Complex is unabated in its rape, pillage & plunder of the peasants ~ How long can reality be lied away, & how many can be murdered before the sheeple spook?

    Another round of vaccines for everyone, on the house!

    #78373
    Dr. D
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    “journalists are bound to the government by ideology rather than law.”

    As I’ve said, Leftists, how did you get here? The FBI/CIA Congress, police, are your ideology, not the worker, the poor? And they are now definitively the party of the rich, both corporate and private. Go back, go back!

    Well at least they are dead last in credibility. However, 20% is much too high.

    I wonder how that Cotton thing got started. Nearest I can tell, one of the key factors was NYT can’t tell the difference between News and Editorial Op-Ed anymore. And no surprise when 100% of the articles are opinion/editorial. Still strange it would go the other way, but opinions are violence, I guess, while violence is NOT violence: it’s speech. #OppositeLand

    Being totally on the side of the police, AOC defunds the public police in NYC, which doubles crime for the poor. This mildly inconveniences the rich, but NYC rich easily pay for security and they therefore have their “police”, and all the guns, which the poor don’t. …That’s why we invented the police to begin with: for equality under the law, the thing she/they are reversing.

    Carrying on with helping only the rich, she then votes for $1.2B for police in the 10 wealthiest zip codes in America: Washington, D.C. So really, she’s violently pro-police, but anti-poor. And this is true not of her as one example, but the party in general. They have the right to self-defense, as they buy $30,000 in armed bodyguards: mayors, social justice actors…but Lou Jackson in Baltimore and Chicago and Trenton has no right to self-defense even in his bed. Literally. In New Jersey, if someone aggresses you, you are required to retreat infinitely. So if you have a murderer, a burglar, or a street riot that burns your home, you must get up out of bed, and leave your T.V., your computer, your work tools to the criminals, and retreat to…where exactly? They just took over your house and possibly burned it. You’re supposed to find safety under the stop sign at the end of the street, 2am, 20f, in the middle of a violent mob?

    You haven’t the right to self-defense allowed to a cat or dog. Die, maggot, and we’ll hose up your body on the Miracle Mile, take your stuff to the state and say tsk, tsk. Guess he should have been rich! This is where the party has got to, and it’s incredible to me how long it can go on.

    But what can you say of a group that supports China and openly coos over the censorship of North Korea? (Both examples NYT but is extravagantly widespread) Well, like I said, if it’s opposite, their religion does it. If it’s NOT our job, we do it, while if it IS our job, we don’t do it.

    Like the Fed. THeir job is stable prices. They don’t do it, they do the opposite. Their added mandate is employment. They have worse employment than all 1,000 years before they were born. Meanwhile, they have NO mandate, are prohibited from, setting public policy for Social Justice, it’s illegal for them to be involved in Global Warming, and they have no basis for either buying, or levitating the stock market, including stock markets and stocks overseas, like Toyota and UBS. So they do all three. Of course! And this causes???

    “ US Food Banks Warn Soaring Prices Will Affect Distributions (ZH)”

    Powell says inflation is a good thing.

    We also hear that it’s “Hyperinflation” and “Transitory Hyperinflation” (BoA). As we’re about to be in it, as we’re in 20% inflation already, use the words correctly or you can’t think straight. Although there is no clear definition, “Hyper” inflation is very high. Certainly well over 50%p.a. and probably in the multi-hundred percents. What they’re talking about is just “inflation.” And while high inflation can go on quite a while — 50% inflation in young, productive Brazil went on many years — “hyper” inflation is indeed transitory. Because it’s the signal that confidence in government has collapsed. And government collapsing only takes a year or two. That was true of high inflation in Brazil as well, it’s a consequence of confidence, but hyperinflation is everyone fleeing government and going “private.” Usually because the government itself has indicated their total absence of the rule of law, and usually rapacious attempt to save their corruption with open theft and widespread confiscation.

    Wiemar, the usual example, lost confidence when it seemed Russian-style communists might take over, and then started confiscating everything. They had been printing astoundingly since WWI all along without effect. How did they, and France, restabilize? They created a “backed” currency – although backed by lies – in the RentenMark, that is, a currency backed by real estate, rents. France did the same back by (stolen) lands, mostly Church. …Because any group that does this, that breaks property rights, can’t be trusted with a hatpin, both later fell as usual. But it was CONFIDENCE that stopped it.

    But there’s your inflation. So when I say “Is there anything that can discredit them?” that is what will happen if “credit” is lost. But Powell says it’s a GOOD thing when prices rise for the poor, so not to worry! He also says the only BAD inflation is when wages rise, for the poor, even a tiny bit. For 40 years in a row.

    “bureaucratic process” to marry…

    The State is our God. Why the feck would you ask, consult, care, if the STATE will allow you to marry or not. Just do it. It’s YOUR thing, not theirs. Same thing I said about gay marriage. And? I wouldn’t ask them to shine my shoes because they’d steal them, much less oversee my marriage. “...But there’s inheritance, legal rights you get…” So it’s all about the money? You’re talking marriage, and that’s all you care about? Fine, hire a lawyer and contract them instead of the state, I guarantee it’ll ultimately be cheaper AND better.

    If they want to get married, join hands, wrap a ribbon, you’re done. Heck, bring him a corn pudding which is how the natives did it. They won’t even notice. Boom, all set. The State…is there anything that can get people to stop begging murderers and criminals for permission to live and breathe? Stop looking to them. You’re the ones giving them power which is the SAME power that keeps Assange in prison. Get married. They literally can’t stop you. They don’t even have to know and it’s better if they don’t. Later they’ll take 90% of your money in divorce courts, dividing it between the judge and lawyers and go golfing. JHC.

    Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson, was recruited by US authorities”

    Speaking of. That is, “perjury-for-hire.” Or even blackmail him. Just like all FBI cases. What was it, the year before Trump, the NYT had an article that 90% of all terrorist cases were completely manufactured, with cash, by the FBI, not one of them would have happened? But then, Lo! TDS, Jan 20th, the FBI became lily-white and were best friend and sole source for the NY Times, and remains so to this day. When you’re violently anti-free speech, as they are, it only makes sense your core ally is the FBI, which is against all 10 Bill of Rights plus most of the Federal Register.

    I’d be amazed if you could FIND an FBI case that was real, organic, unpaid, unpolitical crime. They certainly were defending Whitey Bulgur for years, keeping him out of prison and killin’ folks. …That was Mueller, wasn’t it? The Boy Scout?

    Don’t look to the state. Remove their power by ignoring them and making other plans.

    #78374
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @John Day, interesting blog post. Thank you.

    #78375
    cserrate
    Participant

    V. Arnold:

    To avoid ads or junk on my Ipad, I just disable Javascript. No ads, dancing bears, or unwanted things.

    #78376
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    IRunInTheSand: (from 6/26 TAE) Nice job!! You went straight to the horse’s mouth for blood donation info. 🙂 Gotta love how easy it is to follow the science these days …

    ” … no way to know whether …”
    ” … it is possible that …”
    ” … it is thought that …”
    ” … I am not aware of …”
    ” … no known risks …”

    Mark Edmunds, M.D. Chief Medical Officer of the Red Cross

    #78377
    Dimitri
    Participant

    @ dr John Day

    Your blog is fantastic

    #78378
    absolute galore
    Participant

    I have to go to a retina specialist every three months to check on eye surgeries I’ve had. Friday the nurse doing my initial eye scan asked if I was vaccinated. I said yes.

    She said which one? Phizer? I said no.
    She said Moderna?
    No, uh,Johnson & Johnson.

    About a minute goes by.
    I say, Actually, I’m not vaccinated.
    Oookay.
    It’s the first time someone aksed me directly, and I guess I was worried I wouldn’t get the checkup.
    We don’t care. The doctor just likes to know.

    Fair enough. I like the doctor. He did not bring it up. We chatted about my kid and his first grandchild. But I suspect I will be getting that question more often going forward. (It was doubly embarrassing because I came in without a mask–I thought the sign said wear one if you have a cough. But as I walked into the waiting room, they immediately told me to mask up–and then found out I wasn’t vaccinated!

    I guess I will base my response on the particular circumstance,but hope to use “I have God’s immunity” at least once. God in this case being Ivermectin, which, even if I said it, nobody has heard of, even the few people I know who are not vaccinated. Meanwhile, went to the local supermarket on Main Street again, and I am still the only person in there not wearing a mask.

    #78379
    oxymoron
    Participant

    The state treated that bad man Jesus real nice too. Never look to the state unless you are working an angle and then proceed with caution.

    #78380
    oxymoron
    Participant

    There has been chatter for a while now – particularly with The Social Dilemma movie about algorithmic news feeds and the risks of ending up in your own echo chamber etc. I have been thinking how this forum has ‘trends of info’ and – I guess types of people with similar perspectives but being a feed that is not calibrated by Youtube or Facebook or whatever, but calibrated and directed by Raul and then co-evolved by the forum members. This dodges some major bullshit bullets. Also ideas regularly get supported or challenged. This is biologic not algorithmic and I very much like that.

    I like it very much. Nearly as much as I like saying I buy horse-paste to fight COVID. Tickles me.

    #78381
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @ absolute: aren’t you somewhere in NYS? I’m in CNY. Initially I would be one of the only (and at times only) person in a store without a mask. But at this point the majority of people are maskless (75% maybe?) and the plexiglass is finally starting to come down!!! (didn’t realize how much I hated that plexiglass until it was taken down).

    #78382
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Snowden piece – Dissidents in closed or closing societies naturally come to understand the 16th-century wisdom of Étienne de La Boétie: the State is an abstraction, which depends on citizens — individuals — to execute its will.
    https://edwardsnowden.substack.com/p/on-censorship-pt-1?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo0MDA4ODY3OCwicG9zdF9pZCI6Mzc4NzMwNjMsIl8iOiJWbU5XYSIsImlhdCI6MTYyNDc5OTM5MywiZXhwIjoxNjI0ODAyOTkzLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMzc1Mjc4Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.eeVCAR_Nxe15DTzCZPgN5O7FDeSTcbHYutLkm1QbUls

    It’s very pertinent to me right now given the social awkwardness of wanting to discuss the current changes to the way the world works. There is so much self-censorship or reading of the room so to speak. It is socially disabling for me because I want to discuss these things but people really freak out. I am largely debt free and have committed a truck-load of reading time over the last year and a half and feel waaaaaaay more researched but people just think because they read a few headline news items that we are on an equal playing field. It’s also kind of rude. I am putting in a huge effort with facts and data and reading and podcasts and videos and papers (Vander bosch and the rest – you all know what I’m talking about) and you get lines like ‘well I guess we get different information don’t we’ or ‘ you are not another one of those anti-vaxer tin hat freaks are ya?.
    ‘Ah no – I just read and analysed and you just accepted whispers in your ears and got angry and frightened’
    Then someone comes along and says John Stewart is sooooo onto it. OMG.
    I’m going to bed.

    #78383
    zerosum
    Participant

    This war has many names – VARIANT – Eugenics is the practice or advocacy of improving the human species by selectively mating people with specific desirable hereditary traits. It aims to reduce human suffering by “breeding out” disease, disabilities and so-called undesirable characteristics from the human population.

    This war has many casualties –

    https://www.wfp.org/publications/global-report-food-crises-2021
    Global Report on Food Crises – 2021
    Author name: FSIN
    Publication type: Reports
    Topics: Analyses and assessments, Food security analysis (VAM)

    https://docs.wfp.org/api/documents/WFP-0000127343/download/

    The 2021 Global Report on Food Crises (GRFC 2021) highlights the remarkably high severity and numbers of people in Crisis or worse (IPC/CH Phase 3 or above) or equivalent in 55 countries/territories, driven by persistent conflict, pre-existing and COVID-19-related economic shocks, and weather extremes. The number identified in the 2021 edition is the highest in the report’s five-year existence. The report is produced by the Global Network against Food Crises (which includes WFP), an international alliance working to address the root causes of extreme hunger.
    ————
    We have another problem …..
    Incomes are not keeping up/rising with all the rising costs
    Property taxes set to rise
    school tax rates 2021 rising

    #78384
    zerosum
    Participant

    Have you noticed?
    Live TV is recorded!
    Commercials are the same for all the stations!
    Commercials are coordinated to appear at the same time slots!

    #78386
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks for reading the blog Upstate NYer and Dimitri.
    I hope this is the case, though the GWOT coming to the US, since the seat of empire has to consume itself, now, is bleak.
    I don’t expect outside saviors.

    #78387
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Relevant to a lot of the topics being discussed on TAE is this conversation between Greg Moffett and James Tunney as they talk about his book Empire of Scientism: The Dispiriting Conspiracy and Inevitable Tyranny of Scientocracy.

    We are in danger of ceding power to a centralised cadre of bureaucrats and billionaires who assume authority to exercise power as they wish, believing they know better. The materialist paradigm has given rise to an ideology of scientism, an idolatry of technology, and an obsession with control and surveillance that is shared by communists and capitalists alike.

    Scientism is the expansion of science beyond appropriate boundaries to become an exclusive dogma. Hitherto separate and competing forces are now coalescing in a community based on the application of science to governance. Some scientists have described this movement towards a scientific world government, and yet those who protest are called delusional.

    The emergent Empire of Scientism will be hostile to religion, spirituality, and human rights and will promote transhumanism, post-humanism, and represent the demise of homo sapiens. This is the endgame as conceived by certain mainstream scientists and their sycophants. Unless we wake up and embrace our spiritual consciousness, we are doomed to suffer totalitarian rule before our final demise.

    First half is free, second behind a paywall.

    Highly recommended.

    #78388
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “Fortunately there are enough un-vaccinated people that the Marek’s Disease sort of disaster will not happen so long as enough people refuse..” (Denninger)

    I had to look up Marek’s Disease since Denninger didn’t provide further information. The related problem with the vaccines for Covid-19 is that they are “leaky.” ”

    “It’s important to note childhood vaccines for polio, measles, mumps, rubella and smallpox aren’t leaky”

    The deadliest strains of viruses often take care of themselves — they flare up and then die out. This is because they are so good at destroying cells and causing illness that they ultimately kill their host before they have time to spread.

    But a chicken virus that represents one of the deadliest germs in history breaks from this conventional wisdom, thanks to an inadvertent effect from a vaccine. Chickens vaccinated against Marek’s disease rarely get sick. But the vaccine does not prevent them from spreading Marek’s to unvaccinated birds…

    In fact, rather than stop fowl from spreading the virus, the vaccine allows the disease to spread faster and longer than it normally would, a new study finds. The scientists now believe that this vaccine has helped this chicken virus become uniquely virulent.

    The reason this is a problem for Marek’s disease is because the vaccine is “leaky.” A leaky vaccine is one that keeps a microbe from doing serious harm to its host, but doesn’t stop the disease from replicating and spreading to another individual. On the other hand, a “perfect” vaccine is one that sets up lifelong immunity that never wanes and blocks both infection and transmission.

    It’s important to note childhood vaccines for polio, measles, mumps, rubella and smallpox aren’t leaky; they are considered “perfect” vaccines. As such, they are in no way in danger of falling prey to this phenomenon.

    But the results do raise the questions for some human vaccines that are leaky…

    The 1970s introduction of the Marek’s disease immunizations for baby chicks kept the poultry industry from collapse, but people soon learned that vaccinated birds were catching “the bug” without subsequently dying. Then, over the last half century, symptoms for Marek’s worsened. Paralysis was more permanent; brains more quickly turned to mush.

    This chicken vaccine makes its virus more dangerous
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous

    #78389
    Polder Dweller
    Participant
    #78390
    Kimo
    Participant

    Via the Fat Emperor, a peer reviewed study in Vaccine journal, with the cost/benefit conclusion of our wonderful vaccines:
    “Currently, our estimates show that we have to accept four fatal and serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations in order to save the lives of 2–11 individuals per 100,000 vaccinations, placing risks and benefits on the same order of magnitude.”
    https://thefatemperor.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/The-Safety-of-COVID-19-Vaccinations%E2%80%94We-Should-Rethink-the-Policy.pdf
    His analysis of the paper:
    https://odysee.com/@IvorCummins:f/Mass-Medication-Benefits-versus-Harms—What-is-the-Current-Situation:b

    #78391
    Boris Seymour
    Participant

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/This-Bay-Area-county-sorts-COVID-into-vaccinated-16275590.php
    “Contra Costa is the first county in the Bay Area to publicly break out new coronavirus cases among vaccinated and unvaccinated residents, and the numbers show a stark disparity — virtually all those now being infected have not gotten their shots.”

    #78392
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I get food from from a food bank once a month…in Arizona.
    Fortunately, most of the food received was not purchased by the food bank. Most of the food handed out is “reclaimed food” donated by grocery stores and wholesale or restaurant sources. (The non-reclaimed food is mostly all in the food box. Food box contains non-perishables, for example: spaghetti, tomato sauce, dried fruit, canned fruit, canned vegetables, dry beans, rice, half gallon of fruit juice, canned meat.)
    Reclaimed food is wonderful. Sometimes, it is close to the expiration, and must be eaten or preserved immediately. Or given away. Some may already be too far gone for human enjoyment — but not so far gone that a hen doesn’t enjoy it. Often, the food isn’t close to expiration, and I wonder if it is from accidental restaurant over-orders, etc. If food-insecure families are willing to wait a few days for a Thanksgiving feast, stopping by the food bank shortly after Thanksgiving will yield bags of stuffing mix, premade traditional favorites (stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy, turkey breast) that just need to be heated, bags of potatoes, bunches of celery, tons of onions, etc.

    I don’t know if other states have food bank systems that work this well, “rescuing” food that would otherwise head to a landfill. And I don’t know how much the food that is a part of the federal and other programs that they participate in is funded by government sources, (government funds may be a fixed amount,) and how much rising prices affect them. (I also know that the food bank “meat box” prices for a few pounds of meat can be beat by the price of nearly any grocery store’s current week’s specials in the meat department.) Certainly the food banks would be affected by rising energy prices as they try to keep donated food preserved long enough to get it into people’s hands.

    #78393
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @zerosum: I noticed. That’s why Colbert knew exactly what Stewart was going to say. It was an act.

    #78394
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I helped with a musical performance at retirement community yesterday. Had a nice conversation with a friend. I am cautious telling people too much about Covid and vaccination…I have learned so much through TAE that my knowledge can overwhelm short conversations…not to mention the potential for cognitive dissonance in the other conversant. So I just touch on the edges. And told my friend — if you get Covid despite your vaccination, or this happens to those close to you — let me know, I know what can help. Maybe that is all I’ll emphasize in short conversations. I also know of one local doctor willing to prescribe HCQ back in October 2020….

    Ironic, all the retirement community folks with their proud vaccination ribbons, with their non-sterilizing, leaky Covid immunity…insisting on masking me, who has sterilizing immunity. I passed a damn PCR test 11 days post symptom onset. I passed Covid onto no one. I was a viral dead end. My immune system rocks! (Of course, my father, in his early seventies, weathered Covid with no symptoms and has shown antibodies to Covid twice now…since he quarantined with my symptomatic mother, he also did not pass Covid on…he must be a rock god.)

    #78395
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Marek’s disease is awful. I’ve had unvaccinated chicks die from it.

    #78396
    John Day
    Participant

    @Kimo: That second link to the Cummins paper is internet-MIA now.

    #78397
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    @ John Day

    That linked page (missing) was primarily about a video which can still be viewed via Cummins’ twitter page:
    https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1409156353986269186

    #78398
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @oxy: You have two thoughtful posts today that, I think, are two sides of the same coin. First you contemplate whether TAE is an echo chamber. I’ve been thinking about this lately but wasn’t astute enough to identify the calibrations here as “biologic” and “co-evolved” (well done). I look at TAE like a favorite neighborhood pub where you stop in for a beer with people who are *relatively* like minded. At any given time someone at the pub may veer off in a new direction or toss out a new theory. These events initiate a [fairly] respectful debate, much as they would at your pub. No one is summarily shut down or censored for their viewpoint.

    You also posted about how awkward it is to discuss current changes to the way the world works with most people because they aren’t open to even seeing alternatives. You find the need to “read the room” and censor what you are saying “socially disabling” (another excellent descriptor).

    This fissure started well in advance of the pandemic. Example: over the past five years, TDS meant you could not have a reasonable conversation about politics with anyone unless they were “on the same team.” I don’t watch news (local or otherwise) and don’t do social media so wasn’t impacted by the TDS hoopla, but several years ago I asked a close friend, when he was complaining about a Trump tweet, just when it was a tweet became headline news? Response: “I don’t know, it just is.” There is absolutely no way to have an open discussion with a mind that is that closed.

    TDS has now been replaced by CDS (covid derangement syndrome), which means you literally cannot have a reasonable conversation with anyone about the pandemic unless they are “on the same team”. It does not matter how many facts you offer, nor the credentials of the people who provided those facts.

    Bottom line, either avoid the landmine or find a new “real life” local pub to hang out in. 😉

    And now for today’s latest news: stay tuned for revisions to the narrative …

    #78399
    Topcat
    Participant

    Brace yourself for the Fall ‘variant’ = you gotta have a Booster con job propaganda.

    The Booster Bust will go down better in Blue States.

    It’s obvious by now that Trump Derangement Syndrome has morphed into Covid Derangement Syndrome.

    The Red States are far and away more open and less locked down than the Blue States.

    This is a Darwin Award contest between states.

    Fifty states, fifty different approaches.

    There will be winners and big time losers.

    There already is, look at Texas and Florida vs Californicate and New York.

    Look at the drop in populations and tax base migration. The Biden Junta will try to prop up the Blue states with Fed dollars but will fail because the red ink is piling up in Blue States at a shocking rate.

    Blue states are starting to lose representatives in Congress because of people voting with their feet.

    Even dirtbags like Goldman Sachs moved to Florida, abandoning Wall St to BLM Wokesters to squat in. Hahahaha!

    #78400
    Topcat
    Participant

    From Zerohedge

    Losing The Plot On COVID
    By Dan Rabil

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/06/losing_the_plot_on_covid.html

    …”In a future sane world, people will view the orchestrated panic of the COVID era with the same bemused condescension we might view the supposed War of the Worlds radio invasion scare of 1938, or the bygone use of leeches for seemingly every ailment…”

    War of the Worlds freakout

    Spoiler Alert: The Aliens were finally killed by Coronavirus!

    hahahahahaha!

    #78401
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Raúl: “Why is the R rate highest in the most vaccinated countries?”

    Going a little deeper, the top 3 “most vaccinated” countries (looking at the percentage of the population that’s fully vaccinated against Covid) are Israel (60%), Bahrain (57%), and Chile (54%). (Our World in Data)

    Israel’s vaccines have been 100% Pfizer.
    Bahrain’s vaccines have been mostly Sinopharm (more than 60%).
    Chile’s vaccines have been mostly Sinovac (around 80%).

    This month (June 2021), the R rate for Bahrain and Chile have been trending downward, with both countries now having an R of less than 1, while Israel’s R rate has been trending upward and is currently greater than 2.

    Link to graph

    Related data links will appear in my next comment.

    #78402
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Boris: can’t read the cfchronicle article without a subscription? Not knowing what it says, some points to ponder:

    What prompts the “testing” of individuals at this point? Symptoms? Track/trace exposure? Exposure to whom? (Apparently non-vaccinated individuals since “virtually” no vaccinated individual is testing positive for covid.)

    CDC changed guidelines for PCR testing in vaccinated to 28 cycles or less. How many cycles are being used in PCR testing for non-vaccinated?

    Considering the unreliability of PRC testing at higher than 28 cycles, how is contra costa defining a “case” in non-vaccinated? Test results only? Symptoms?

    How many of these “cases” in non-vaccinated individuals resulted in hospitalization or death?

    It has gotten so easy to poke holes in health official narratives it’s almost not worth the effort anymore.

    #78403
    Doc Robinson
    Participant
    #78404
    Kimo
    Participant

    @ John Day
    I attached the paper to this upload, a helping hand might be needed to expose it to readers.
    @Doc Robinson
    Thanks for replying to John.

    #78405
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Topcat: ” … but will fail because the red ink is piling up in Blue States at a shocking rate.”

    I’m still laughing so hard I can barely breathe.

    With love from,
    NY

    #78406
    Kimo
    Participant

    USA Socialism: The debate is over.
    I’d like to point out, that the classic debate over what socialism would look like in the USA is over. In the past, for the progressive the answer was Sweden, for the conservatives the answer was communist countries.
    Well, Covid-19 response has answered the question.
    Consider that Sweden did not choose lock downs, and China did.
    Liberal states choose very restrictive lock downs, resembling communist China much more than socialist Sweden. Progressives in favor of lock downs really need to take an inward look, and admit the leaders they choose to follow are in favor controlling the actions of others at the first opportunity. Swedish styled socialism is not the apparent goal. A generation of progressive leaders, and those farther left, need to be flushed from the system.
    Kimo

    #78407
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Btw, New York State wouldn’t be quite so blue if New York City would simply secede, like most of the rest of the state has been hoping for for decades. NYC can form its own district, or whatever, and purchase the resources it needs … how would Dr D state this? … oh, right, NYC can purchase the things the people in NYC actually need to survive … food, water, power, a place to put their trash … they can purchase it from the rest of NY state. As for us poor, ignorant “upstaters”? We’ll live quite fine on the income we earn by providing said resources to said NYC district. And, bonus!, in return NYC can keep ALL those tax dollars it generates AND all the revenue it generates from, idk, I guess it’s tourism, the financial industry, and other schemes like that.

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