Debt Rattle June 7 2018


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    Ivan Aivazovsky Stormy Night at Sea 1850   • Is Draghi Risking Everything To Teach Rome A Lesson? (ZH) • The Next Economic Crisis Begins in the E
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 7 2018]

    V. Arnold

    Having been to sea, on a 40′ wooden double ender; I love that picture by Ivan Aivazovsky: Stormy Night at Sea 1850.

    If you figure that a constant increase in energy use is the culprit, how can you say renewable nergy is the solution, and not call for using less energy?

    I’m of a mind most just really don’t get it!
    Trapped in magical thinking; technology will save us.
    When in fact it’s the very technology, unbridled, that’s destroying us.
    We’re the problem; sadly ironic, no?


    The EU. I have always reckoned that Germany is doing with Banks what it couldn’t do with Tanks

    Dr. D


    Except they forgot they won’t get compliance, ultimately their new fiefdoms will default and throw them off. Germany is only rich because they’re owed money. What will they be when those states refuse to pay?


    “… let’s say, naïve…”

    • How We Created The Anthropocene (BBC) A manifesto to save Planet Earth (and ourselves)
    By Simon Lewis and Mark Maslin
    University College London
    7 June 2018

    These insights help us think about avoiding the coming crash as our massive global economy doubles in size every 25 years, and on to the possibilities of a new and more sustainable sixth mode of living to replace consumer capitalism.

    To usher in a new way of living today’s core dynamic of ever-greater production and consumption of goods and resources must also be broken, coupled with a societal focus on environmental repair.

    Universal Basic Income (UBI) is a policy whereby a financial payment is made to every citizen, unconditionally, without any obligation to work, at a level above their subsistence needs.

    Environmental repair could come from the simple but profound idea that we allocate half the Earth’s surface primarily for the benefit of other species.


    Re: Yesterdays article “Everything that dies does not come back”
    What happened? First the site went down, then came back without the article, then the article re-appeared without comments, especially Dr. D’s excellent response. Did feathers get ruffled? Fortunately, the whole was still open on our computer, so we were able to copy and save it in it’s entirety.
    Most excellent article, and painfully true.


    Thank you for all the kindness, especially the June 6 Debt Rattle ones. We’re going for an upgrade, towards a mobile friendly site (very necessary) , and I’m sure we’ll get there, but in the process last night , some comments were lost for the “Debt Rattle June 6” and the “Everything That Dies Does Not Come Back” articles. The latter even has a closed comments section.?Perque? that is beyond my scope. Let’s just get it done and over with.


    And cloudhidden, if you still got those comments saved somewhere, do please post them here and/or at the proper article. I would be much obliged.


    OK Raul, a pleasure.
    Here were the comments as we saved them.

    June 6, 2018 at 1:42 pm #41017

    V. Arnold

    Thanks for that heroic thread Ilargi. Epic by all measure.
    I’m fading as the hour grows late; I’ll be back in a few hours…
    June 6, 2018 at 2:12 pm #41019


    Go browsing at

    Serious health research at the level provides is expensive. Cross cultural comparisons can be very complex and the data isn’t easily accessed via research skills alone. Much of it requires world class tech skills to find it, organize it and display it so it can be easily understood. We have those skills and are pleased to share them with you in a free and open environment so you can educate yourself and your children about health without constantly being interrupted by unsightly ads.
    June 6, 2018 at 2:53 pm #41020

    Dr. D

    1,340 varieties? You have no idea how hard that is until you grow and store even 10 varieties, 5 pounds each. Seeds also don’t sit on the shelf like wing nuts, they perish rapidly and variably, and must be regrown every year or every few years. Must, or they go extinct. When grown, they will show variations from breeding, from climate or location unique to just that year, invariably changing them. So there is no “true” line, although we target the “true”. So we target the “true” and also target the breed for improvement, adding new things, different likes and dislikes and so on.

    If that’s not enough, each genome has wildly different parameters. Peas are simple and easy to breed, as Mendel showed, others like corn are not only huge and wildly variable, but must include new outside genes regularly or the vitality withers away. Some are under massive attack, like potato and tomato late blight. The old varieties may virtually cease to exist because they cannot live in a blighted new world, yet we attempt to keep the old varieties and add the resistance…but then they are no longer the former variety, and never will be again.

    Some seeds, like wheat, can be grown when recovered from the pyramids, others like celery might not germinate in just two years. Enough variables yet?

    The Old World was different indeed, no fruit trees like apples, no honeybees, no hayfields, it was a forest of cool pines, long grasses, and extinct species like elm and chestnut. The pollenating insects in that world were wasps, flies, and others, and squash can still use them, but not corn, which is a wind pollinator. But the bugs, the grass, the forest, were all entirely different, alien different, all new, all forgotten, and the Old World too, which borrowed corn, tomatoes, and others from Asia like oranges and soy, no longer the Europe of Roman oil, garum, and German greensauce and gruit ale.

    We think this is the “real world”, the world that might go extinct, but it isn’t. The world already went extinct in 1492 and many times before that when everything changed. This world is just one variation of a growth that has narrowed and may — or may not — widen again. We can, and probably will, for instance, resurrect Tasmanian and Caspian tigers, the woodland bison, the auroch, and the mammoth. At the same time, we may kill 500 new insects and never notice. We have no idea what fish existed, much less erased forever. So numerous it seemed men could walk on them, like Cod.

    You can do more than complain and can — one way or another — grow these plants, or even these animals, and leave them as potential — if no more — to your descendants.

    One thing from Bayer, the new worst-company-on-earth, is that owning seeds is already illegal in Europe. In Britain, so I hear, it is illegal to trade seed or give it away, as a means to own all living things as slaves. This follows on the heels of an attempt to patent all genes one by one, so that we ourselves will be patented by Bayer and ourselves become genetic property, buying permission to own even ourselves. I can only wish I were making this up. The inability to share or sow seeds without permission is quite challenging for heritage sites and museums to navigate, as they attempt to grow Shakespeare’s barley or thatching wheat. It would create a black market in seeds, in life itself, as dark as the heroin trade, something out of the darkest sci-fi movie, past Logan’s Run and THX1138.

    So this is the world we want? Apparently yes. No one cares in the slightest. There are no protests, no boycotts, no rebellions of these high edicts. No one pays sixpence more for the farmer down the road vs. Bayer and ADM. So who am I to say? If you take no action, am I to care and do it all for you?

    Apparently, yes, I am my brother’s keeper. Apparently I grind myself down in sun and rain and taxes to keep life going that no one will share, no one will help with, people shake their heads and fists at, and even were I to go to their houses and lift a new cornmeal or apricot to their lips, spit it out as blemished and unclean, much less drive 5 minutes and take free seeds and plant them.

    THAT, my friends, is how much people care about the mountain gorilla and the black rhino. So much that they would not lift a finger even to save a species or variety that will feed them gourmet for free at their own house if it would take 5 minutes longer than microwaving a Stouffer’s in a triple-plastic tray. And we’re going to Mars? If so, it were to make a similar hell there, so it is indeed going according to plan.


    Study warns of alarming decline in Australian fish

    A clear case of overfishing – “The research, in the decade to 2015 by the University of Tasmania and Sydney’s University of Technology, indicated that the numbers of large fish species — over 20 centimetres (eight inches) — had decreased by about 30 percent”

    Naturally, they had to slip in “Global Warming” somewhere – no proof needed – “with climate change also contributing” That should ensure they get plenty of funding.

    FWIW, most fish migrate and – just like coral but at a far far higher speed – they are free to breed and live in the more suitable places.


    Here are the temperatures according to Greenland’s ice cores over the 10,000 years up to 1950. We are still a lot colder than during the Medieval Warm Period BTW.


    “Factories and farming remove as much nitrogen from the atmosphere as all of Earth’s natural processes”

    Oh dear, we are about to run out of nitrogen – 78% of atmosphere. I love this doomporn. 🙂

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