May 26, 2021 at 4:46 pm #75986
Open Letter from Physicians to Universities: Allow Students Back Without COVID Vaccine MandateMay 26, 2021 at 4:53 pm #75987DjangoParticipant
I wondered why there were only 19 reasons not to take the vaccines.Then I saw Russell Brand thinking they were a good idea. So that’s rounded it off to twenty, thanks Rissell.May 26, 2021 at 5:25 pm #75988my parents said knowParticipant
“Sentence” should read “parenthetical note”.
I still can’t say if “upload” is wrong and “download” would have been better.
SO the injection’s mRNA (or DNA) instructs the recipient’s cells to make the spike protein.
I understand why they felt they needed to “correct” the terrifying paper. I don’t understand how they can say the ones the recipient makes behave very differently than those “safely encoded” [cough, cough] by vaccines.May 26, 2021 at 5:39 pm #75990Michael ReidParticipant
There is no safe spike proteinMay 26, 2021 at 5:54 pm #75991
Belgium limits J&J vaccine to over-41s after death
Another bodybag.May 26, 2021 at 5:57 pm #75992
“Numerous prophylaxis trials demonstrate that regular use of Ivermectin leads to large reductions in virus transmission. Moreover, a comprehensive review of the available efficacy data as of December 12, 2020, taken from in-vitro, animal, clinical and real-world studies, all show the above impacts of Ivermectin in treating cases of Covid-19.”May 26, 2021 at 6:25 pm #75993Dr. DParticipant
Yes, true enough, and there was some other sloppy stuff or unrelated following that paragraph. Just riffing because Salk Institute, Appeal to Authority fallacy.
However, it’s not fair to say we have to get it right always, ahead of time, without support, while they get it wrong every day, every word, every study — and admit it — but aren’t likewise held to account. But that’s how the game is played it seems. Spelling error: Yer out!!! Kill 20,000 with active malpractice and admit it in the NY Times? Meh. Three other governors the same? Meh. Chase down Jews by ethnic group? Meh. Stop Bill of Rights, 1A, end all free press, worldwide martial law, run the country by billionaires? Meh. We only care if you have bad pickup lines and the girls didn’t say yes. Then there’s no MeToo and you STILL aren’t held accountable.
But boy that spelling error or claiming Wuhan was involved before a court ties them down, shoves their head in a hole, spanks them silly with a paddle and forces them to admit it? Unforgivable.
So annoying.May 26, 2021 at 7:06 pm #75995ctbarnumParticipant
More CDC data manipulation.
And the key metric. I hope the jpg shows this time.May 26, 2021 at 7:07 pm #75996upstateNYerParticipant
The level of stupidity being employed at this point to explain away any negative consequences of the injections beggars belief. Natural spike proteins = damage you. Injection-induced spike proteins = safe for you. BUT … injections instruct your cells to create spike proteins so your body recognizes the spike protein and develops immunity against covid. Seriously? Can’t have it both ways. Gotta pick, you idiots.
The original Salk article absolutely did not contain “(which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines)”May 26, 2021 at 7:08 pm #75997ctbarnumParticipant
The jpg didn’t take. I’m attaching as a file, so I hope I’m not doing anything wrong.May 26, 2021 at 7:42 pm #75999upstateNYerParticipant
The spike protein debacle is EXACTLY what Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi has described as the consequence of the injections for months now.May 26, 2021 at 8:26 pm #76001
Noirette: “Vax, wow super! 100% efficacity! Because only 4 – four! Out of 3,700 adolescents ‘got covid’ – > .all the 4 were in the placebo group.”
As I noted in yesterday’s comments, when the definition of “case” was changed from that vaccine trial’s definition to the CDC’s definition, there were a number of Covid cases in both groups (vaccinated and placebo). So goodbye to the “100% efficacy.”
And despite all the headlines touting “100% effective” (based solely on a slanted press release from Moderna), the absolute risk reduction is probably only 0.3% or less.May 26, 2021 at 8:40 pm #76002Michael ReidParticipant
The vaccines are going to change our world
See Germs comment 75970
Click on the Robin facebook.com to view the excellent videoMay 26, 2021 at 9:31 pm #76003
upstateNYer: “The spike protein debacle is EXACTLY what Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi has described as the consequence of the injections for months now.”
Back in early December, before the FDA issued the first EUA for the vaccines, a pediatric doctor at UCLA warned the FDA about the potential harm the spike proteins could cause.
“Before any of these vaccines are approved for widespread use in humans, it is important to assess in vaccinated subjects the effects of vaccination on the heart (perhaps using cardiac MRI, as Puntmann et al. did). Vaccinated patients could also be tested for distant tissue damage in deltoid area skin biopsies, as employed by Magro et al. As important as it is to quickly arrest the spread of the virus by immunizing the population, it would be vastly worse if hundreds of millions of people were to suffer long-lasting or even permanent damage to their brain or heart microvasculature as a result of failing to appreciate in the short-term an unintended effect of full-length spike protein-based vaccines on these other organs.”
“In caring for children with MIS-C, I have been impressed with how widespread the organ involvement is,
particularly given the absence of actively replicating virus in virtually all patients. Particular caution will be
required with regard to the potential widespread vaccination of children before there are any real data on the
safety or effectiveness of these vaccines in pediatric trials that are only now beginning.”
The FDA issued the EUA for the Pfizer injections a few days after they received this letter. The letter has so much relevant information that I am including it below.
Comment from J. Patrick Whelan MD PhD
Posted by the Food and Drug Administration on Dec 8, 2020
8 December 2020
U.S. Food and Drug Administration
Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee
RE: Notice of Meeting; Establishment of a Public Docket; Request for Comments related to consideration of vaccines against SARS-CoV-2
I am a pediatric specialist caring for children with the multisystem inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C). I am concerned about the possibility that the new vaccines aimed at creating immunity against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (including the mRNA vaccines of Moderna and Pfizer) have the potential to cause microvascular injury to the brain, heart, liver, and kidneys in a way that is not currently being assessed in safety trials of these potential drugs.
Puntmann et al. (JAMA Cardiol. 2020;5:1265-1273) showed that the prospective study of 100 German patients who were recently recovered from COVID-19 revealed significant cardiac involvement on cardiac MRI scans in 78% of them, an average 2-1/2 months after their recovery from the acute illness. Two-thirds of these patients were never hospitalized, and there was ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60%. The abnormalities occurred independent of preexisting conditions, severity of the initial disease, and overall course of the acute illness.
Magro et al. showed that there is complement-mediated damage even in grossly normal skin of coronavirusinfected individuals (Human Pathology 2020:106:106-116). They have also shown (Magro et al. Annals of Diagnostic Pathology 2021:50 in press ) that ACE-2 receptor expression is highest in the microvasculature of the brain and subcutaneous fat, and to a lesser degree in the liver, kidney, and heart. They have further demonstrated that the coronavirus replicates almost exclusively in the septal capillary endothelial cells of the lungs and the nasopharynx, and that viral lysis and immune destruction of those cells releases viral capsid proteins (or pseudovirions) that travel through the circulation and bind to ACE2 receptors in these other parts of the body – leading to mannan-binding lectin complement pathway activation that not only damages the microvascular endothelium but also induces the production of many pro-inflammatory cytokines. Meinhardt et al. (Nature Neuroscience 2020, in press) show that the spike protein in brain endothelial cells is associated with formation of microthrombi (clots), and like Magro et al. do not find viral RNA in brain endothelium. In other words, viral proteins appear to cause tissue damage without actively replicating virus.
Is it possible the spike protein itself causes the tissue damage associated with Covid-19? Nuovo et al (in press) have shown that in 13/13 brains from patients with fatal COVID-19, pseudovirions (spike, envelope, and membrane proteins) without viral RNA are present in the endothelia of cerebral microvessels. Furthermore, tail vein injection of the full length S1 spike subunit in mice led to eurologic signs (increased thirst, stressed behavior) not evident in those injected with the S2 subunit. The S1 subunit localizes to the endothelia of microvessels in the mouse brain, and is a potent neurotoxin. So the spike S1 subunit of SARS-CoV-2 alone is capable of being endocytosed by ACE2 positive endothelia in both human and mouse brain, with a concomitant pauci-cellular microencephalitis that may be the basis for the neurologic complications of COVID19. The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine (BNT162b2) is composed of an mRNA that produces a membrane-anchored full-length spike protein. The mouse studies suggest that an untruncated form of the S1 protein like this may cause a microvasculopathy in tissues that express much ACE2 receptor. A truncated form of S1 was much less damaging in mice.
While there are pieces to this puzzle that have yet to be worked out, it appears that the viral spike protein that is the target of the major SARS-CoV-2 vaccines is also one of the key agents causing the damage to distant organs that may include the brain, heart, lung, and kidney. Before any of these vaccines are approved for widespread use in humans, it is important to assess in vaccinated subjects the effects of vaccination on the heart (perhaps using cardiac MRI, as Puntmann et al. did). Vaccinated patients could also be tested for distant tissue damage in deltoid area skin biopsies, as employed by Magro et al. As important as it is to quickly arrest the spread of the virus by immunizing the population, it would be vastly worse if hundreds of millions of people were to suffer long-lasting or even permanent damage to their brain or heart microvasculature as a result of failing to appreciate in the short-term an unintended effect of full-length spike protein-based vaccines on these other organs.
In caring for children with MIS-C, I have been impressed with how widespread the organ involvement is, particularly given the absence of actively replicating virus in virtually all patients. Particular caution will be required with regard to the potential widespread vaccination of children before there are any real data on the safety or effectiveness of these vaccines in pediatric trials that are only now beginning.
Patrick Whelan MD PhD
UCLA Pediatric Rheumatology
Los Angeles CA 90095May 26, 2021 at 9:32 pm #76004Mr. HouseParticipant
Anybody here ever watch game of thrones? 2020 was like cerci giving power to the sparrows (covidiots) and blowing up the chapel all in one swoop.May 26, 2021 at 10:00 pm #76005
On Dec 3, 2020 Chris Martenson released a video hightlighting Ivermectin. Youtube has since nuked it.
On Dec 8, according to Michael Capuzzo’s article, Dr Pierre Kory gave nine minutes of impassioned testimony to the US Homeland Security Committee Meeting on the potent anti-viral, anti-inflammatory benefits of ivermectin.
Chris Martenson was already in close contact with Dr Pierre Kory leading up to Kory’s testimony. In fact he flew down to Texas during peak covid to see him in person.
I don’t recall seeing anything by Michael Capuzzo back in Dec 2020
Where was he?
Pierre Kory had been using Ivermectin as part of his core protocol for many months by Dec 2020. That why Chris Martenson flew down to Texas.
I don’t recall Michael Capuzzo seeking out Pierre Kory at all last year, in fact Michael Capuzzo just published his revelation regarding Ivermectin recently.
It’s not a revelation, it’s old newsMay 26, 2021 at 10:07 pm #76006
In fact somewhere in Chris Martenson’s 60-70 videos on Covid, there is one of him in Texas having lunch outside at a sidewalk cafe talking and laughing it up with Dr Pierre Kory, they were fast friends.
No Michael Capuzzo in sightMay 26, 2021 at 10:37 pm #76007
Oh by the way, Duke university’s virology research department had a direct research relationship link with the Wuhan lab, they were collaborating for years, on bats and other things. What a coincedence.
Chris Martenson has a PHD in Virology from DukeMay 26, 2021 at 10:47 pm #76008
Martenson’s PHD is actually specialized in neurotoxicology
neurotoxicity refers to damage to the brain or peripheral nervous system caused by exposure to natural or man-made toxic substances
So unlike Michael Capuzzo, he actually is trained in science up to the doctorate level.May 26, 2021 at 10:49 pm #76009zerosumParticipant
Here is another place to do a search for scientific papers concerning “Ivermectin and covid”.
Items: 1 to 20 of 1171
A more specific search can be done for NIH grants (51)
Here is a sample:
Network Medicine Framework for Identifying Drug Repurposing Opportunities for COVID-19
Given the compressed timescales, the traditional methodologies relying on iterative development, experimental testing, clinical validation, and approval of new compounds are not feasible. A more realistic strategy relies on drug repurposing, requiring us to identify clinically approved drugs, with known toxicities and side effects, that may have a therapeutic effect in COVID-19 patients.
Finally, we manually inspected the joint ranking list, removing drugs with significant toxicities, eliminating those not appropriate, and removing lower-ranked members of the same drug class (with some exceptions). Through this process, we arrived at a list of 86 drugs selected from the top 10% of the total combined rank list, representing our final repurposing candidates for COVID-19 (Table 2). The selection contains drugs that are used for disorders of the respiratory (e.g., theophylline, montelukast) and cardiovascular (e.g., verapamil, atorvastatin) systems; antibiotics used to treat viral (e.g., ribavirin, lopinavir), parasitic (e.g., hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, praziquantel), bacterial (e.g., rifaximin, sulfanilamide), mycotic (e.g.,fluconazole), and mycobacterial (e.g., isoniazid) infections; and immunomodulating/anti-inflammatory drugs (e.g., interferon-β, auranofin, montelukast, colchicine); anti-proteasomal drugs (e.g., bortezomib, carfilzomib); and a range of other less obvious drugs that warrant exploration (e.g., aminoglutethimide, melatonin, levothyroxine, calcitriol, selegiline, deferoxamine, mitoxantrone, metformin, nintedanib, cinacalcet, and sildenafil, among others (Table 2). Our final list includes 11 previously proposed13,43 potential drug-repurposing candidates for COVID-19, and 21 drugs that are currently being tested in clinical trials (Table 2).
After eliminating drugs based on toxicity, delivery, and appropriateness of their use in COVID-19 patients, we selected 81 approved drugs as candidates for drug repurposing.May 27, 2021 at 12:08 am #76010DarkMatterParticipant
Anybody here ever watch game of thrones? 2020 was like cerci giving power to the sparrows (covidiots) and blowing up the chapel all in one swoop.
I am looking forward to Fauci’s walk of shameMay 27, 2021 at 4:20 am #76011WESParticipant
Fauci is incapable feeling any shame, so don’t hold your breath!
More programming issues keep popping up with Dominion voting machines like switching Republican candidate’s name to democrat candidate’s name on ballots.
The John McCain Arizona Republicans continue to try and stop Phoenix vote audit. McCain’s wife was supposed to become the new senator but some one must of pissed on his grave! The navy couldn’t get any volunteers to fly by his funeral so they had to order some pilots!
Meanwhile the Republican party continues to oppose the will of Republican voters everywhere. Republican governors meeting closed to ordinary republican voters. Only Rinos and decepticons allowed.
Facebook is now giving journalists permission to write about Wuhan lab leak. How nice of Zuck.May 27, 2021 at 4:42 am #76013
@ my parents said know
The original version of that Salk article can still be found at the Internet Archive.
“Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive “spike” proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that they also play a key role in the disease itself…”
“Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive “spike” proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.”May 27, 2021 at 6:01 am #76014DarkMatterParticipant
I’m hoping someone here can answer a question. Are the spike proteins from the ‘vaccine’ somehow worse for people than the spike proteins on the virus itself? I don’t know but can see some possibilities:
1) You may never get the virus but by getting the jab you are guaranteeing a big dose of spike proteins
2) Maybe catching the virus doesn’t put so many spike proteins in the blood stream as the ‘vaccine’ does
3) Maybe the spike proteins from the ‘vaccine’ are somehow different
4) Maybe a spike protein by itself is worse (gets to more places) than a spike protein attached to the virus
Does anyone know which if any of these are true or if there is another reason the ‘vaccine’ spike proteins are worse?May 27, 2021 at 8:27 am #76015
I heard an interview a while ago in which it was explained that the jab introduces 50 BILLION strands of mRNA coding for the spike protein. This would result in a far higher number of spikes in your body than there would be from a natural infection.May 27, 2021 at 2:12 pm #76037NoiretteParticipant
And despite all the headlines touting “100% effective” (based solely on a slanted press release from Moderna), the absolute risk reduction is probably only 0.3% or less.
Yes Doc Robinson, one can safely say, less than 1 %! My post was about numbers that would make a 6th – 7th grader (here) either shake their heads, laugh, or call “total BS,” but apparently nobody in power, the media, etc. even twitches an eyebrow. Yeah, and docs and nurses have been a big disapointment for me (present company and some very brave ones excepted) – I expected a little more spine. Nothing like facing losing your job I guess.
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