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    Edgar Degas At the Milliner’s 1905-10   • CDC Predicts Sharp Decline In Covid-19 Activity By July (Cidrap) • Why Masks Are Still Mandatory (AT) •
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 7 2021]

    #74668
    Germ
    Participant

    “Israeli People Committee’s Report Find Catastrophic Side Effects Of Pfizer Vaccine To Every System In Human Body”

    Israeli People Committee’s Report Find Catastrophic Side Effects Of Pfizer Vaccine To Every System In Human Body

    #74669
    Germ
    Participant

    “Further evidence supports controversial claim that SARS-CoV-2 genes can integrate with human DNA”

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/05/further-evidence-offered-claim-genes-pandemic-coronavirus-can-integrate-human-dna

    #74670
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Regarding large power structures and the evil they produce: moral conscience does not appear to benefit from division of labor.

    #74671
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “The Department of Justice’s pre-crime approach known as DEEP was activated just months before Trump left office; it was also justified as a way to “stop mass shootings before they happen.”

    Apparently they were using it to CREATE mass shooting by identifying susceptible people. Can you think of any other reason mass shootings went up…what? 50-fold?…the day Biden took office?

    Even I can’t figure that out. Can anyone come up with anything? Cause I can’t. A: Media says it’s not happening. Doesn’t report. RussiaRussiaRussia.

    Don’t just assume they’re up to all good. Usually they’re up to no good. As all governments in all history if you don’t hold them down and beat them constantly.

    “they became unable to hold it once the Kalashnikov automatic rifle put the peasants in places like Congo, Angola and Vietnam on equal footing with Western armies seeking to keep them down.”

    Huh. I thought that there was no use in Americans owning guns because the ability of the population to resist was a keyboard fantasy?

    Seems like history – of Afghanistan, last Monday – says otherwise. If you have any further questions, ask Alexander Hamilton and Capt John Hancock of the HMS Liberty.

    I’m betting that the internet will turn out to be the same. Clearly it’s waaaaaaay worse than T.V. in terms of control and knowledge, and has caused them to take transparent oppressive measures like these, exposing themselves badly, like never before in history. And that’s before we get a decentralized peer-to-peer internet, which is inevitable.

    “White House Says “We Support” Ukraine’s Ambitions to Join NATO (ZH)”

    Watching CNN MSNBC, they have now re-added 30% Trump stories. Who? Do they have 30% Obama or Carter stories? Even so, NBC posts “The U.S. needs to stop pretending it’s going to defend Ukraine from Russia” Really? Fascinating.

    Apparently everyone on earth knows except the Derp Brain Trust and their wooden dummy in the White House.

    Same with Taiwan. Hey, did anyone see how we and Britain defended Hong Kong? With their one ship? I’m Taiwan is overwhelmed with confidence since we can’t defend Minnesota.

    Ocean Pic: 19 more creatures I’m more likely to die from than Covid. And I don’t live in the ocean.

    #74672
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Pfizer seeks full FDA approval for COVID-19 vaccine in USA Today.

    Of course they do. That way, those who would compel people to take the jab would be on far less shaky legal ground.

    #74673
    zerosum
    Participant

    Media has control –
    To be or not to be

    your thinking, your emotion, your desires, your knowledge, your freedom, your trust, your truth, your lies

    Numbers – Undercounting/Overcounting

    your friends
    your enemies

    #74674
    greco
    Participant

    @Wes
    Saw you mention Milwaukee in yesterday’s post. Did you work for Bucyrus Erie or Harnischfeger? This is not related to Covid of course, but more to the decline of US manufacturing and the role of coal in our economy. These days, these sprawling rust belt factories stand empty or have been taken over by strip malls.
    I was a tech writer for a while. Did manuals on coal mining machinery like draglines and got to hear a lot of stories from field engineers. It’s a job most marriages don’t survive. One guy, ex navy at Marion draglines told me he had a navy wife who was used to him being gone six months at a time and was capable of running their house all by herself. Erecting a dragline took a whole year and if it was in Siberia or South Africa, you didn’t get home much.
    There are still a whole bunch of jobs like that, like military contractor bridge builders, etc. Whole segment of jobs mostly male where people’s social life is in bars and home is a cheap motel and the wife divorced you long ago.

    #74675
    Dave Note
    Participant

    The Covid story just gets more sordid everyday, it’s hard to keep up with it’s perversity.

    Cynical

    #74676
    Dave Note
    Participant
    #74678
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    WRT the Gates-backed institute alternative Covid body-count: I recall finding out back in January how many deaths in the USA in 2020 we had in excess of those we had in 2019. The number was very close to the official body-count for Covid. It’s possible that there were some people who were already going to die in 2020 from old age or deteriorated health who were helped over the threshold by Covid, as we know Covid goes after such people. But I think it’s probably better to undercount such people if they were already going to leave this world in 2020. What scares people about the virus is the possibility it could take away years of your life. Counting people as Covid deaths who had three to six months left at best misleads people as to how dangerous the virus is, and the media and the government need to do less of that, not more. (Not holding my breath on that one, though.)

    #74679
    zerosum
    Participant

    Unemployment numbers – review

      Why is there a mismatch of jobs available and applicants for those jobs

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_ceiling
    A glass ceiling is a metaphor used to represent an invisible barrier that prevents a given demographic (typically applied to women) from rising beyond a certain level in a hierarchy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_pay_gap_in_the_United_States
    In the United States, despite the efforts of equality proponents, income inequality persists among races[1] and ethnicities. Asian Americans have the highest median income, followed by White Americans, Hispanic Americans, African Americans, and Native Americans

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege#Employment_and_economics
    White privilege, or white skin privilege, is the societal privilege that benefits white people over non-white people in some societies, particularly if they are otherwise under the same social, political, or economic circumstances.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_stratification
    Social stratification refers to a society’s categorization of its people into groups based on socioeconomic factors like wealth, income, race, education, ethnicity, gender, occupation, social status, or derived power (social and political). As such, stratification is the relative social position of persons within a social group, category, geographic region, or social unit.

    #74680
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @zerosum: To that list I would add, employers who are unwilling to simply pay people what they’re really worth.

    #74681
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @Germ

    That video you posted yesterday with regards to actual benefits of vaccine which showed it really doesn’t have any, only had around 10k views when i watched it. I sent to my dad and friend and about five hours later it was taken down. Something with only 10k views is seen as that much of a threat? And i searched for it based on its name, it was buried underneath about 20 other videos before you could ever find. What are they hiding?

    #74682
    Mr. House
    Participant

    This had some interesting interviews:

    Full Interviews

    If you google planetlockdown you get about 10 hits about how misleading they are before you get to the actual site and thats on duckduckgo.

    #74683
    Dr. D
    Participant

    If you could make a profit, you’d be happy to pay an employee anything he asks. As Armstrong says, they say 8%, 10%, 20% interest rates will crush a stock market. Well what if you thought the stock market would rise 50%? 20% is a bargain: ask everyone in Argentina and Zimbabwe.

    If you employed someone at $90k, and they made you $120k, you’d be fool not to hire them.

    So why is this no longer true? Could it be because we’ve got 5x higher health benefit cost than ever in history, double, triple taxation on sales, income, profits, property? OSHA telling you if your employees sniff brick dust you have unlimited liability? They can break in and burn down your plant and the police won’t come? With rates at 0%, insurance covers nothing and is sky-high (they have no investment profits). And everyone else is in the same boat, meaning THEY can’t raise wages either so you can’t raise prices now and never will? Because half the nation isn’t working and 25% are on food stamps, while the wealthy can only use one house and car?

    See, this is the same argument as usual with wages: we need a $15 minimum wage. Really? What did you do with the LAST $15 I gave you? Well Ben Bernanke printed $40 Trillion dollars and now steak is $12 and rent is $2000. Back when wages were $6/hr, that was equivalent to $30/hr today. Everybody not only wanted to, but could AFFORD to work, since a car cost $3k and took the price of spark plugs to fix. Right now, a brake repair (ABS) would cost a month’s wages. Rent was $300 and credit was at 8%, not 36%APR with fees.

    It’s Benny and da Boyz that stole ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL that money. ALLLLLLLLLLLL your wages, so the only POSSIBLE way to make money is by walking into a Doge casino and putting it all on black. If you lose, you’re only as broke as ever. If 1:1,000,000 you win, it’s STILL more likely than using hard work and savings.

    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogapr21/crazy-risk4-21.html

    Gosh Cleetus, how’d NY get so rich and smart and Tulsa so poor and stupid? Must be genetics, I guess. They deserved it.

    Point? Wages are nothing. Zero. Pointless to name. They exist in a SYSTEM, where there is no one-point one-cause magic bullet solution.

    “For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.” — H. L. Mencken

    The simpler and more intuitive it is, the wronger. The only solutions you’re going to find are those involving hard work and honesty, because that’s the only thing we haven’t tried.

    #74684
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Introducing the woke Central Intelligence Agency!

    Many don’t find it interesting or worthy of comment that ideological prescriptions and rhetorical formulations once largely relegated to Tumblr and obscure academic circles have migrated to the highest levels of the US intelligence apparatus within a matter of years. They should feel free to keep screeching into the void online, while others attempt to critically evaluate this culture-upheaving phenomenon.

    #74685
    Antidote
    Participant
    #74686
    Germ
    Participant

    “Ivermectin is a proven treatment for Covid-19, so let’s use it
    Extensive study shows ivermectin can reduce the risk of infection by 92.5% and is the standard of care in many countries.”

    https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/opinion/2021-05-06-ivermectin-is-a-proven-treatment-for-covid-19-so-lets-use-it/

    #74687
    papanca
    Participant

    Several days ago it was reported in Naked Capitalism that the Indian government had approved the use of Ivermectin nation-wide. The story was linked to by one or two others, but I haven’t been able to find another mention of this on the Internet. Has anyone seen it reported elsewhere by another source?

    #74688
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    Or, if you want a more peaceful metaphor, it [the internet] was the promise of open pasture extended to people who had previously been treated like cattle, penned up in factory barns and fed slop from a trough.

    I stumbled upon a private meet-up yesterday of a few members of my pre-covid coffee crew. Before I could even sit down at another table to eat my lunch, one of them started in on me about getting vaccinated. “Did you get vaccinated against polio when you were a kid?”, she asked. I could see that this question was not your typical inquiry, but a clever trick intended to back me into a corner logically, just like on Perry Mason.

    You see, everyone at that table had already received their Covid shots, so I would’ve been putting them all at risk if I had been invited too. Behold the product of western journalism! It’s impossible to have a discussion with people who are fully sated with their latest meal from the CNN slop trough.

    #74689
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • Experts Say It’s Vital That Parents Get Their Kids Vaccinated For Covid (F.)
    “By the last week of April, cases among children and teens accounted for more than 22% of new cases in the U.S, and there was a 4% increase in the total number of cases in kids. Almost 4 million kids have been diagnosed with Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. Luckily, vaccines for kids are arriving soon.”

    What a load of alarmist propaganda bullsh*t.

    Covid death rates for children and teens are still near-zero on the CDC charts, and even if they were to increase by 25%, 50%, 100%…, they would still be near-zero.

    If this image posts, it shows the Weekly Covid Deaths (per 100,000) for each age grouping. The yellow lines (representing ages 0-17) aren’t even visible because they’ve been down near zero the whole time.

    This next image, if it posts, shows the same graph with details I pulled up for the peak of the Covid deaths back in December, to try to show how high the numbers went for children and teens. They are still near-zero, while the 80+ age group is up at 69 deaths per 100,000:

    You can see for yourself at the CDC site. Click on AGE under the DEATHS option.
    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographicsovertime

    #74690
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The story was linked to by one or two others, but I haven’t been able to find another mention of this on the Internet. Has anyone seen it reported elsewhere by another source?

    Our Lords And Masters Who Know Better Than Us don’t want respectable people using the “I” word, so this shouldn’t surprise you terribly much.

    #74691
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Mass shootings:

    2020:
    shootings: 615
    number killed: 521
    number wounded: 2,541

    2021:
    shootings: 178
    number killed: 206
    number wounded: 693

    About the same so far, actually. Seems to me like media-induced perception management is involved, and if anything, they’re amplifying reportage rather than suppressing it.

    Perspective:

    mass 1

    #74692
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    You see, everyone at that table had already received their Covid shots, so I would’ve been putting them all at risk if I had been invited too. Behold the product of western journalism! It’s impossible to have a discussion with people who are fully sated with their latest meal from the CNN slop trough.

    USAmericans are and always have been extremely brainwashed and brainwashable. A lot of people who have traveled to other countries have come back to this country firmly believing that the USA is the most mind-controlled country on the entire planet. And this included the USSR back during the Cold War Era.

    #74693
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @Doc R: One way the propaganda has been royally catapulted during this pandemic is confusing the difference between a positive test (usually a PCR test that was probably run for way too many cycles anyway and therefore likely to generate a false positive), which is more accurately termed an “infection”, and a real case. I would call a real case probably being sick enough to have to stay home from school or work and definitely having to go into the hospital on account of being sick with the ‘Rona (that’s what we’re actually calling it here in The Badger State, believe it or not).

    So I suspect that a lot of these so-called teenage and child “cases” are really just positive PCR tests that might have yielded a false-positive.

    #74695
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Destiny (a person’s choices and the quality of the implementation of those choices) are all a person can do to influence their fate

    #74696
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ Maxwell Qwest

    ““Did you get vaccinated against polio when you were a kid?”, she asked.”

    ‘Have you stopped abusing your children/spuse/dog/cat yet?’
    ‘What?!’
    ‘Exactly.’

    #74697
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Let us remember that primary primitive social emotional logic drives everything. STand tall and act cool, and they’ll roll over and fold up like a door mat.

    “Have you got your covid vaccine yet?”
    “Have you started thinking for yourself yet or still believing everything that the same media who sold the war in Iraq tells you?

    “You’re endangering us by not being vaccinated.”
    “You’re endangering me by being vaccinated with a so-called vaccine that isn’t, but is actually a dangerous genetic experiment. I do my research and come to my own conclusions. You should try it sometime.”

    But first… b-r-e-a-t-h-e… (it’s soothing and resembles the lack of patience that you’re trying to overcome). COunt to ten. SMILE. Then fire away with ‘fuck you dipshit’ in the back of your mind.

    And if the contine: “If you don’t stop harrassing me I’ll report you to human resources, and if they harrass me I’ll send them to my attorney.”

    Somnolent fools are SO easily intimidated.

    #74698
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I bid us ask this question: say one makes a concise cogent case for kovid vakzine refusal. One they uinderstand but don’t believe. Say that 6 months from now you are vindicated, that refusal becomes the accepted norm.

    Do you think your current workplace/social Nazi harrassers will apologise? DO you think they’ll say ‘you were right, we were wrong’?

    Hardly, I say. They believe MSNBC et al not just because it’s the water in their goldfidh bowl but because their indoctrination to trust mainstream authority is based on their experiences beginning in early childhood of being cooerced, intimidated, punished, isolated, and exiled if they don’t do what mainstream authority tells them.

    But authority has a face, even if it’s some ditzoid hologram with a Will Ferrer mustache on their handroid tv. (These are people compliant enough to think that typing on a teensy-weentsy smartphone screen is a good thing, and if only.they.could.make.them.smaller.yet, wouldn’t that be GREAT? WHy? Because a commercial told them so while they were in a hypnotic trance from binge-watching Shitshows ‘R Us.)

    You can wear that face simply by assuming authority and not backing down. Be the cool kid that sets the clique standards.

    Don’t fight the psychopaths in charge; they’re way ahead of you on that. (Or do you personally own a tv station or news network?) BE the psychopath, the one with zero enmpathy for their folly and need for social inclusion. You may eat your lunch alone but they won’t fuck with you.

    Again: one doesn’t win a fight; one ENDS it.

    #74699
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ Dr D
    “If you employed someone at $90k, and they made you $120k, you’d be fool not to hire them.”

    I agree. Its a business man wet dream. (Pity the poor consumers that have to pay that price with less than a living income.
    In real life here is the complaint. Workers, and not only employers want to have a living income. ($15.00/hr is not 90k per year)
    Excuses, excuses ….. People should not be paid to stay home.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/biden-pushes-trillions-stimulus-employers-struggle-lure-people-back-work

    #74700
    Mr. House
    Participant

    The other thing that alot of people are not considering is that those people who worked in the low end jobs in the the cities have moved out. We had an exodus last year in july of people that i assume were service industry moving out. They aren’t here anymore and i doubt due to media scare tactics and constant starts and stops that they plan on moving back anytime soon. The only people left are those who didn’t leave and those that work from home.

    #74701
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ Dave Note

    Many thanx for the terrif ecodisaster cartoons yesterday. I remember some of them. Part of what was great about the “Woodstock Era” was that for awhile, it was fairly mainstream understanding that we were shitting our nest. Now we obsess on select boutique disaster concepts like global climate disruption (which is indeed very real) while telling ourselves we’ll fix it by pretending to pay 3rd world countries reparation damages for killing the biosphere, and ignoring the lessons some people fought so hard to make heard back in those days.

    Save the planet by purchasing slightly different shit than before,
    And always do remember to buy more and more and more!

    #74702
    Moo Foo Bay
    Participant

    Raul wrote, “This will be claimed as a vaccine victory though it was predicted long before. Seasonal.”
    I don’t know if you misread the model predictions or think others will. But the modeling results should not be claimed as a “victory” by anyone.

    Scientific models are hypotheses, not results.

    The 4 models, 2 with high vaccination and 2 with low vaccination, are generated over the same time span so seasonal effects are controlled for in the modeling exercise.

    Come August, we can look back at the actual outcomes, in terms of vaccination level and Covid cases, and assess which model most closely described the actual outcome. If a sharp decline occurs during high vaccination, beyond those expected during low vaccination, it will lend support that the additional decrease in cases was due to vaccination and not just a seasonal effect.

    Let’s not jump the gun on drawing conclusions from models, one way or the other. The models can be useful tools, with due caution, in helping interpret the eventual outcomes of these
    experiments.

    #74703
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @Mr. House: Not that it’s any o’ my beezwhacks, but I’m guessing you live in a major urban area. (You have probably figured out by now that I live in a relatively remote undisclosed location in Milwaukee County in Wisconsin.) A lot of service-sector urbanites moving back to their respective hometowns in the wake of the Kovid Kraziness is something I can imagine happening. In fact, as much as I hated my Wisconsin hometown when I was a teenagerro, I wax nostalgic for it now and wouldn’t mind at all spending my final days in this world there.

    #74705
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Trigger warning: Very politically incorrect word in the lyrics.

    #74706
    Mr. House
    Participant

    I wouldn’t call it a major urban area but its the second largest in the state. It was still in decay until around 2010 or so since all the steel jobs left in the 80’s. Limped along while the healthcare and higher ed industries matured. Now they’re in overdrive and those are the only people left who live in the city, while every one else lives off their spending. We do also have two major banks. I prefer the blue collar types honestly, i find higher ed and healthcare workers or just people in general in the city to not be very self reflective. They don’t understand that it isn’t themselves that are special per se. Circumstance. If people realized this we’d do alot less damage to each other. When i would go out to a bar or somewhere to eat you’d overhear things. A lot of the younger people had moved from Podunk town and were soooo happy to be in the city and they had just started at this eatery or that bar. Most service industry people socialize together, makes sense. They even had special get togethers with each other on mondays when most had the day off. Age does that Mr Roboto, as you age you lose the FOMO and realize that the grass isn’t always greener and generally people are the same wherever you go. Some of us were just born old souls.

    #74707
    Dave Note
    Participant

    Back in the 60’s I actually studied rocket science and was planning on joining NASA. I was involved in some high level projects for the Air Force which let me get a peek behind the curtain at the NASA publicity kabuki theater.

    NASA was basically a pure military project with an ever so thin civilian happy face painted on it.

    I discovered that the real purpose of most ‘research satellites’ was corporate global natural resource asset stripping, conducted from orbit. The precursors to today’s array of ‘ground penetrating radar’ and other such orbital sensors was to identify and pin point natural resources around the globe, from orbit, before the countries these resources were in figured out they even had them.

    The NASA data was then forwarded through back channels to the appropriate corporate conglomerate who then bought said ‘undiscovered’ resources for pennies on the dollar. If they couldn’t buy them for pennies on the dollar, they had the local oligarchs move or murder the natives.

    The resource location angle could be peddled as ‘national security’ and the corporate part of the MIC could vacuum up goodies. A win-win.

    I realized all this just in the summer leading up to the first moon landing 69, a fabulous piece of PR distraction for the public.

    The resource location and mapping techniques the US has now are magnitudes more sophisticated than the late 60’s but it’s still the same Song & Dance being pimped by NASA like an old street hooker.

    Today we are contending for cobalt and lithium and as-sundry rare earth elements for techno gadgets, alt-energy and overall techno supremacy.

    China is the new power on the global stage and their space satellites are also resource mappers so the US has real competition for orbital hegemony.

    It’s like a game of musical chairs backed up with nuclear weapons.

    #74708
    Mr. House
    Participant

    I’m 37 going on 38 this year. I came out of college in 2007 and had one good year before 2008. I enjoy all of you, but it worries me that i may be the only person that posts here who isn’t in their 50’s or 60’s. NC, WOLFstreet, seems to be the same everywhere.

    #74709
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • CDC Uses Different PCR Test Rules For Vaccinated, Non-Vaccinated (AVV)

    I was verifying that at the CDC site and found this:

    “CDC is transitioning to reporting only COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections that result in hospitalization or death”

    So the CDC is not going to report the numbers of breakthrough cases which don’t lead to hospitalization or death. This sounds like a way to boost the public’s opinion of the effectiveness of the vaccines (since the vaccines allegedly reduce the severity of most breakthrough infections). It’s a bad idea because not only will it make it impossible for the public to assess the actual effectiveness of the vaccines, it will also be impossible to make public health decisions related to the actual numbers of vaccinated people who are breakthrough cases, potentially transmitting the virus to others.

    As previously announced, CDC is transitioning to reporting only COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections that result in hospitalization or death to help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance. That change in reporting will begin on May 14, 2021. In preparation for that transition, the number of reported breakthrough cases will not be updated on May 7, 2021.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

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