Just Some Randomer
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“Does it say so on the vial?”
So I’m told by friends who have had it – obviously I’m not volunteering to find out :-
This is from the health authority’s website, guidance for jabbers:
https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/immunisation/hcpinfo/covid19vaccineinfo4hps/comirnaty/Looking around their website it’s very consistent in referencing Comirnaty specifically.
Interestingly, the government here has decided to discontinue use of the AZ and Janssen (J&J) vaccines here because, they say, they have more reliable supplies of the mRNA jabs.
“But there is no Comirnaty vaccine available”
Comirnaty is the standard ‘Pfizer’ jab being administered here in Ireland. Not sure about NZ. Possibly it’s only the US where Comirnaty is not generally used?
“Above all, I’m PRO opening the bloody country up, and to do that I don’t see any way around getting the majority of Australia vaccinated.”
And it is thanks to lazy thinking like this that have ended up in hospital, likely, with permanent heart damage, Mr Hitchcock. Could lack of curiosity also kill the cat?
“But so: what will they do when this conclusion from Britain’s own goverment becomes unavoidable?”
Certainly not admit that they got it all spectacularly wrong. I rather suspect they will instead double down and blame the situation on the shock appearance of a ‘New Variant’ that spontaneously developed among the unvaccinated members of the public (Curse those heretics!) who must therefore, sadly, be offered the choice of relocation to Devil’s Island or being hunted down with tracker dogs and, when found, given a shot of vax the size of a coke bottle ‘Just to be Sure’.
“All coronaviruses have spike proteins. It’s where they get their name.”
Well, that is true, but my understanding is that this one is unique in Coronaviruses (Possibly ‘Borrowed’ from HIV if I recall earlier reading on the subject correctly) and that this uniqueness is why all of the Vaccines target it specifically.
Virulence is often a function of where a bug likes to grow and what it eats/makes in the process. ‘Harmful bug’ does not necessarily mean ‘tough on antibodies’.
A valid observation, perhaps I could rephrase the point as ‘…per #1 above – it’s fairly easy to kill’ in which case one of the parameters of my hypothetical future virus would have to be that it has characteristics that make it difficult for the immune system to handle, as well as being harmful.
Hi all. Long time reader here, but experienced something of a ‘Road to Damascus’ moment recently on the subject of the Covid story and the official response to it and, inding myself without any real-world audience likely to even hear me out, I cast myself on the mercy of the joint and several intellects that make up the TAE community, and humbly ask you to consider whether the following makes any sense.
1. ‘Covid-19’ leaving aside the arguments about whether it actually exists, appears to be a relatively harmless coronavirus to which a Spike protein has been attached, most likely in a lab. This Spike protein makes the virus more infectious to humans and also provides a unique target, because it does not exist in natural viruses, for vaccine developers to aim at.
2. All of the vaccines produced to date, regardless of the underlying technology, target this Spike protein specifically and seek to produce antibodies that will bind to it. These antibodies then do what they are supposed to do and kill the Covid virus – because, per #1 above – it’s fairly harmless.
3. So far, so good, leaving aside the various side-effects associated with the vaccine. A very large proportion of the population now has an immune system primed to identify and bind to the Spike protein, and in most cases their Covid symptoms are mild.
Now we enter the realm of the hypothetical. What we seem to have done here is created a mechanism, analogous to the sort of ‘Back-Door’ into software systems that the CIA is so fond of, meaning that literally anything attached to a Spike protein will alert the immune system of vaccinated individuals and trigger a response. So – what happens if the next Spike-ey virus does NOT have a fairly harmless and easily dealt-with payload?
Suppose that in the future, Dr. Evil (or natural viral mutation) releases an honest-to-goodness viral menace – a really dangerous viral payload attached to a spike protein? Is it not the case that vaccinated people’s keyed-up immune response will identify and bind antibodies in large numbers to the Spike protein, but then find that it’s incapable of actually killing the virus to which the Spike is attached? Will this not result in the virus invading the cells of the immune system and using them as a means to reproduce itself, i.e. ADE?
Have we not, inadvertently or otherwise, installed a single point of failure in the immune systems of all vaccinated individuals? Have we not just created an antibody ‘Key’ which any virus possessing a Spike protein similar to Covid can use to invade the body?
Someone of a cynical nature might even suspect that this Trojan Horse virus was created specifically to enable the creation and near-universal distribution of this key, which could be used at a later date when selectively thinning the herd (I suspect the creators themselves would be fine) becomes an imperative.
