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Claude Monet Hollowed Cliff near Étretat 1883

 

Coroner Confirms 44-Year-old BBC Presenter Died From Vaccine Side Effect (RT)
New Zealand Police Break Up One-Person Anti-lockdown Protest In Auckland (G.)
‘Bombshell’ Study Finds Natural Immunity Superior To Vaccination (Unherd)
The Suspicious FDA “Approval” Of The Pfizer Vaccine (Techno Fog)
******nit, Stop The FRAUD (Denninger)
What Can We Learn About COVID Tyranny From Australia And Afghanistan? (Smith)
The Weaponization Of Medicine (FMP)
Health Workers Protest Against Introduction Of Mandatory Covid Jabs (K.)
Arkansas Jail Dosing Inmates With Ivermectin, In Spite Of FDA Warnings (AP)
The Cost-Benefit Analysis of COVID (Greenwald)
Biden Does Surreal Press Conference, Vows To Hunt Down Isis, Blames Trump (ZH)
US Provided Taliban With Names Of Americans, Afghan Allies To Evacuate (Pol.)
Taliban Opens Chain Of U.S. Army Surplus Stores (BBee)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who ordered this autopsy? Where are the reports on all the other autopsies?

Coroner Confirms 44-Year-old BBC Presenter Died From Vaccine Side Effect (RT)

A coroner’s report has confirmed that late BBC Radio presenter Lisa Shaw died from “complications” related to AstraZeneca’s Covid-19 vaccine. Shaw died on May 21 at the age of 44 roughly three weeks after she received her first dose of AstraZeneca’s vaccine. She did not have any known underlying health problems but developed blood clots after receiving the jab. On Thursday – over three months after her death – a coroner finally confirmed that Shaw died from complications that were suffered as a result of vaccination. Coroner Karen Dilks declared that Shaw “died due to complications of an AstraZeneca Covid vaccination,” or specifically, “vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia” which caused the blood clots in her brain.


In the weeks after the vaccine, Shaw had complained about severe headaches. Some 332 similar cases and 58 deaths have been recorded in relation to the AstraZeneca vaccine. Many countries have suspended or completely stopped the use of AstraZeneca’s vaccine, with some limiting its use for those over the age of 60. In the UK, however, the age restriction is significantly lower. On May 7, just over a week after Shaw received her dose, the UK government announced that those under the age of 40 should be offered an alternative to AstraZeneca “if available and if it does not cause delays in having the vaccine.” The government currently warns that AstraZeneca’s side effects can include rare blood clots, capillary leak syndrome and Guillain-Barre Syndrome, and that those who experience “a severe headache that is not relieved with simple painkillers or is getting worse or feels worse” should “seek medical advice urgently.”

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How do you “break up” one person?

New Zealand Police Break Up One-Person Anti-lockdown Protest In Auckland (G.)

A one-person anti-lockdown protest in central Auckland has been shut down, after the police were alerted to discussions of a potential gathering on social media. New Zealand police said officers were on Queen Street on Friday after hearing a protest was being planned, but only one person arrived with the intention of protesting, Newshub reported. “Police have been in the area and have spoken to one person who arrived intending to attend the protest. Police spoke to the individual who was encouraged to comply with alert level four restrictions and chose to leave,” a spokesman said. They said they are continuing to monitor the situation. An Instagram account had called on people “who see the bigger picture” to get involved in the protest, Newshub reported, despite also saying it wasn’t involved in the demonstration and had no idea who was behind it.


The post criticised prime minister Jacinda Ardern and the government for “destroying the economy” and “destroying jobs”, despite the unemployment rate dropping to 4 percent in the June 2021 quarter and the economy weathering the pandemic better than expected. Last week, around 100 anti-lockdown protesters gathered on Queen Street, and four people were arrested. Four people were also arrested at a protest of about 20 people in the city of Tauranga outside the local police station. Another group gathered outside a police station in the South Island city of Nelson the same day, but dispersed after officers issued 20 verbal warnings.

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We’ve known this all along. Where’s the bombshell?

‘Bombshell’ Study Finds Natural Immunity Superior To Vaccination (Unherd)

A major study conducted by Israeli researchers into natural immunity has found that immunity acquired via infection from Covid-19 is superior to immunity from the Pfizer vaccine. Researchers at Maccabi Healthcare and Tel Aviv University compared the outcomes of over 76,000 Israelis in three groups: the doubly vaccinated (with the Pfizer vaccine), the previously infected but unvaccinated, and the previously infected with a single dose. They found that fully vaccinated people were significantly more likely to have a “breakthrough” Covid infection than people who had previously been infected and recovered from the disease. “This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalisation caused by the Delta variant,” the authors conclude.


The study is only published as a preprint at this stage and has not been peer reviewed. Critics including British immunologist Andrew Croxford have pointed out potential limitations, but it has been described by infectious diseases expert Professor Francois Balloux as a “bombshell” development. If the findings are confirmed, the implications for global Covid policy will be profound. It would not undermine the importance of vaccination for more vulnerable groups in society. However it would weaken the case for vaccinating children, despite the programme being confirmed in the UK today, as they (and the people around them) would get superior future protection from contracting the disease. And it would pose a fundamental challenge to the singular emphasis on vaccine passports for travel and large events, if unvaccinated people who have already had Covid actually pose less of a risk.

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“For those who received two doses of the Pfizer Vaccine in January 2021, the vaccine is “only 16% effective against symptomatic infection.”

The Suspicious FDA “Approval” Of The Pfizer Vaccine (Techno Fog)

The FDA says COMIRNATY is “safe and effective in preventing COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older.” How effective? They state (~6 months after dose 2) that it is “91% effective in preventing COVID-19 disease,” citing to a study where Pfizer observed “77 cases of COVID-19 occurring in the vaccine group.” This leaves us with an important question. The Pfizer study is from a “follow-up through March 13, 2021.” That is over 5 months ago. Is the FDA using outdated data in support of the COMIRNATY approval? In other words, how long does the effectiveness really last? Pfizer has an answer for us. According to its August 23, 2021 fact sheet, “The duration of protection against COVID-19 is currently unknown.”

If you’re looking for data on the waning effectiveness of the Pfizer Vaccine against COVID-19, you have to search for yourself. You won’t find it with the FDA or Pfizer, underscoring an apparent effort to cherry-pick the data for the “approval.” According to one UK study of over 400,000 people (a study that is, by the way, much more rigorous than the one cited in the FDA approval), the “effectiveness fell to 74% five or sixth months after receiving both doses of the Pfizer vaccine.”

The news out of Israel is worse. For those who received two doses of the Pfizer Vaccine in January 2021, the vaccine is “only 16% effective against symptomatic infection.”

As we have observed, the CDC has promoted a misleading message on the risks the vaccines present to pregnant mothers. They used self-reporting studies that were racially skewed studies (~79% white and 1.4% black) and limited to looking at miscarriages from weeks 6-20. (This caused them to omit from the study 35 self-reported pregnancy losses at less than 6 weeks.) The new approval mentions a study on the Pfizer Vaccine exposure during pregnancy to be completed in 2025. Four years from now pregnant women will know whether this vaccine is safe. As for the current data? Here’s what the COMIRNATY package insert says about there being “insufficient” information on the vaccine risks to pregnancy.

Ok Techno, I’m with you so far… but did Pfizer do any studies on whether the vaccine was safe for pregnant women? YES! They did toxicology studies on female rats.

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“..if being vaccinated makes the person who gets it more-infectious then being jabbed is not only personally dangerous it is dangerous to public health..”

******nit, Stop The FRAUD (Denninger)

in the best case you must repeatedly take the risk of strokes and heart attacks, along with other serious adverse effects, in order to maintain protection. If the risk is 1/10,000 to do it once then the risk is 1/5,000 to do it twice, assuming the risk is linear which we do not know. If its exponential, and there is a strong suggestion that is the case because most of these events occurred after the second jab in the series, then the risk from taking three jabs may be 1/1,000 instead of 1/10,000 which is ridiculously higher and makes the decision to risk infection rather than vaccination simple for most people since only the quite-morbid are at higher risk from infection than 1/1,000 (0.1%) even if we assume the risk of eventual infection, if you do nothing, is 100%.

Note that if there is no end to these jabs then eventually even the most-morbid are stupid to take them since the risk of the jab killing them will rapidly exceed that of the virus doing so and this assumes that vaccine-induced enhancement does not show up and wildly multiply the risk of serious disease and death from the virus itself. There is no way to know whether these risks will converge either naturally or by forced action of a malevolent party but that they exist and are independently present is now known with scientific certainty as all of those mutations have now been found in the gene banks from sampled patients. If that “next mutation” winds up being of benefit to “being first” in an uninfected, non-recovered host and worse, if being vaccinated makes the person who gets it more-infectious then being jabbed is not only personally dangerous it is dangerous to public health and will cause a wave of serious illness and death to tear through the vaccinated population and if that happens there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

The FDA knows all of this as they have the same access to the published scientific work I do. They didn’t hold a hearing or take public comment, as they are supposed to, because then people like myself could submit into the formal, government record papers like the one I cited above. In addition the FDA cut off the data far enough back to deliberately ignore the most-recent few weeks, which show crazy deterioration in the percentage of people who die of Covid-19 and are vaccinated. In some counties (e.g. Clark, NV) the vaccinated are now the majority of the deaths. Does this prove vaccine-induced enhancement is here and raging? No; the data is too thin. But what it does prove is that being jabbed doesn’t stop you from getting sick nor does it stop you from giving the virus to others and that by itself reduces the decision to be vaccinated to one of personal choice at best.

And finally even Pfizer admits that they can’t get ahead of such a mutational event whether it occurs naturally or is forced and released by a malevolent actor. They say they can turn around a new version of the jab within 95 days but then you have to get it into the hundreds of millions of Americans and that can’t happen any faster the second time than the first. Assuming you immediately can ramp up production and distribution expecting that you can get effective coverage within less than another three to six months is fantasy-level bull**** as we didn’t manage that the first time and the virus mutates faster than you can accomplish it, making the attempt a game of whack-a-mole which you will inevitably lose. Never mind the risk that the reformulated version may produce immediate and extremely dangerous adverse events at a wildly-elevated rate: Without trials, which again will add months or years to the time required to deploy, there is no way to know! It is sheer arrogance to presume none of this will happen when we now have hard proof that least some of it did with the first go-around.

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“..these measures cannot be fast tracked in the same way in the US because Americans are heavily armed and have the ability to bury the establishment six feet under if we organized to do so..”

What Can We Learn About COVID Tyranny From Australia And Afghanistan? (Smith)

I have warned consistently that all governments around the world would eventually try to adopt proof of vaccination requirements in order for people to participate in everyday activities such as going to public venues, going to school, shopping in stores or even getting a job. The mainstream media and governments consistently claimed last year that vaccine passports were “not going to happen”, and that the very notion was a conspiracy theory. Now, the vaccines passports are being implemented in numerous countries including some parts of the US and anyone who stands against them is called a “conspiracy theorists”. You see how that works? If you expose the truth of an authoritarian plot the establishment lies and calls you a “conspiracy theorist”.

Once the establishment admits to the plot and you refuse to comply with it those same liars call you a conspiracy theorist AGAIN, as well as a “terrorist.” Yes, this was also predicted by myself and others at the beginning of the pandemic. We said that the people that fight against vaccine passport tyranny would be quickly labeled as traitors and terrorists “putting others at risk” because we are too “selfish” to bow down and take the experimental jab or submit to the lockdowns. This is exactly what has happened, with the DHS recently announcing that one of the warning signs of a potential terrorist includes opposition to covid mandates and vaccines.

I also predicted that the ultimate goal of the covid agenda will be to create domestic travel restrictions and state and city checkpoints, not to mention covid “camps” or prisons for the unvaccinated. In the US the DHS is admitting that they are entertaining the concept of interstate travel limits and a “papers please” system to prevent Americans from moving around freely. The state of New York hinted at covid camps many months ago, but the real plan is being revealed overseas in other Western nations like Australia and New Zealand.

And here is where we find the telegraphed punches… I have specifically examined Australia and New Zealand’s fast track covid tyranny plans a year ago in my article ‘The Totalitarian Future Globalists Want For The Entire World Is Being Revealed’ and I noted that whatever happens in these countries along with certain countries in Europe is going to be tried in the US in the near term. The main difference being that these measures cannot be fast tracked in the same way in the US because Americans are heavily armed and have the ability to bury the establishment six feet under if we organized to do so.

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“Once “medicine” and “science” are mixed with social pressure, they are no longer science or medicine. At that point they are instruments of thuggery, and nothing more.”

The Weaponization Of Medicine (FMP)

#1: Science is not consensus. Ten, one hundred, or a million people, all draped in lab coats and saying the same thing, does NOT make it so. In fact, it matters not at all. It’s nothing but theater, and it’s anti-science. All science is, really, is a process of testing ideas; it is not an organization, it is not based upon authority (it’s inherently anti-authority), and it is very certainly not allied with power. All that matters in science are verifiable results.

#2: Medicine stands apart from, and above, politics. Medicine is the application of science to the furtherance of human health. Politics is the use of persuasion and power to rule masses of humans. These are fully separate disciplines. To place politics over medicine is to subjugate and degrade medicine: it’s a path backwards into darkness. I’ll leave details on this point to working medical practitioners, who can provide them with far greater specificity than I can… provided they’re not too frightened to do so.

#3: Peer review no longer means much. Again I won’t go into great detail, but peer review has been captured by academic hierarchies and almost fully separated from science proper. It has become a tool of institutional power, wielded by academics who have sold out science for the favors of power and politics. At one time, “peer review” referred to the honest replication of experiments. That time is past.

#4: Medicine and science have nothing to do with social pressure. Once “medicine” and “science” are mixed with social pressure, they are no longer science or medicine. At that point they are instruments of thuggery, and nothing more.

#5: If you don’t read multiple scientific papers, especially from rebels and cast-outs, you simply don’t know. You can pretend you know, of course, and you can be sure that agents of the status quo will provide you with passable reasons to repeat their slogans, but you won’t actually know. What you see on TV is propaganda. What you see on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube is pre-censored. If you want to really know, you’ll have to find the scientific papers that address your question… and you’ll need papers that are rejected by televised authorities. If you don’t, all you’ll have are pre-censored conclusions, the underlying facts of which may or may not be reliable. At this point, if you don’t include “conspiracy theory” research, you’re more or less stuck with Orwell’s Ministry of Truth. Sad but mostly true.

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Working their asses off for 20 months and getting a mandate as their reward.

Health Workers Protest Against Introduction Of Mandatory Covid Jabs (K.)

Hundreds of Greek frontline health workers protested on Thursday against a plan to make Covid-19 vaccinations mandatory for the care sector as infection rates remained high. Healthcare workers observed a four-hour work stoppage against new rules obliging medical staff to vaccinate against the coronavirus, and to call for more resources to public health. The mandatory jab comes into effect for healthcare workers on Sept. 1. Those who do not comply and have not had at least one shot of a vaccine will be suspended from their jobs. According to the POEDIN labor union, about 10 percent of healthcare workers have not had a first vaccine jab. Protesters said that while the call for vaccination was widely acknowledged and complied with by healthcare workers, the view of a dissenting few should to be respected.


“I’m here today because I want to support the constitutional right of every Greek citizen to say ‘yes’ or ‘no’ to vaccination. I personally am vaccinated, but I believe it is my colleagues’ right to not get vaccinated if they don’t want to,” said Evangelia Karatzouli, a nurse at a public hospital. Greece on Thursday reported 3,538 new coronavirus cases in a single day, with 28 deaths. It reported a record daily rate of 4,608 infections on Tuesday. read more The Greek public hospital workers union will support unvaccinated colleagues, said its president, Michalis Yiannakos. “They consist of a tiny number, and have for the last 18-19 months been on the frontlines, caring for patients in the Covid wards, and have not ever gotten infected, and now they are being thrown out on the streets,” he said.

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“Whatever a doctor prescribes, that is not in my bailiwick..”

Arkansas Jail Dosing Inmates With Ivermectin, In Spite Of FDA Warnings (AP)

Inmates at a north-west Arkansas jail have been prescribed a medicine for treating coronavirus that is normally used to deworm livestock, despite federal health warnings to the public in exasperated tones. Washington county’s sheriff confirmed this week that the jail’s health provider had been prescribing the drug. The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the federal drugs regulator, issued a warning via Twitter last weekend. “You are not a horse,” it said. “You are not a cow. Seriously, y’all. Stop it.” Sheriff Tim Helder did not say how many inmates at the 710-bed facility had been given ivermectin and defended the health provider that has been prescribing the medication. “Whatever a doctor prescribes, that is not in my bailiwick,” Helder told members of the Washington county quorum court, the county’s governing body.


[..] It is not clear what information inmates who were prescribed the drug have been given about it, including warnings that it is not approved to treat Covid. The US FDA has approved ivermectin in both people and animals for some parasitic worms and for head lice and skin conditions. The FDA has not approved its use in treating or preventing Covid-19 in humans. “Using any treatment for Covid-19 that’s not approved or authorized by the FDA, unless part of a clinical trial, can cause serious harm,” the FDA said in a warning about the drug. Prominent rightwingers have been promoting the drug for Covid and public health officials have come under attack from some Republicans for urging Americans to get vaccinated against coronavirus.

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Zero.

The Cost-Benefit Analysis of COVID (Greenwald)

[..] we employ a rational framework of cost-benefit analysis, whereby, when making public policy choices, we do not examine only one side of the ledger (number of people who will die if cars are permitted) but also consider the immense costs generated by policies that would prevent those deaths (massive limits on our ability to travel, vastly increased times to get from one place to another, restrictions on what we can experience in our lives, enormous financial costs from returning to the pre-automobile days). So foundational is the use of this cost-benefit analysis that it is embraced and touted by everyone from right-wing economists to the left-wing European environmental policy group CIVITAS, which defines it this way:

“Social Cost Benefit Analysis [is] a decision support tool that measures and weighs various impacts of a project or policy. It compares project costs (capital and operating expenses) with a broad range of (social) impacts, e.g. travel time savings, travel costs, impacts on other modes, climate, safety, and the environment.” This framework, above all else, precludes an absolutist approach to rational policy-making. We never opt for a society-altering policy on the ground that “any lives saved make it imperative to embrace” precisely because such a primitive mindset ignores all the countervailing costs which this life-saving policy would generate (including, oftentimes, loss of life as well: banning planes, for instance, would save lives by preventing deaths from airplane crashes, but would also create its own new deaths by causing more people to drive cars).

While arguments are common about how this framework should be applied and which specific policies are ideal, the use of cost-benefit analysis as the primary formula we use is uncontroversial — at least it was until the COVID pandemic began. It is now extremely common in Western democracies for large factions of citizens to demand that any measures undertaken to prevent COVID deaths are vital, regardless of the costs imposed by those policies. Thus, this mentality insists, we must keep schools closed to avoid the contracting by children of COVID regardless of the horrific costs which eighteen months or two years of school closures impose on all children.

It is impossible to overstate the costs imposed on children of all ages from the sustained, enduring and severe disruptions to their lives justified in the name of COVID. Entire books could be written, and almost certainly will be, on the multiple levels of damage children are sustaining, some of which — particularly the longer-term ones — are unknowable (long-term harms from virtually every aspect of COVID policies — including COVID itself, the vaccines, and isolation measures, are, by definition, unknown). But what we know for certain is that the harms to children from anti-COVID measures are severe and multi-pronged.

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This is far from over.

Biden Does Surreal Press Conference, Vows To Hunt Down Isis, Blames Trump (ZH)

President Biden on Thursday vowed to “hunt down” the terrorists responsible for a spate of deadly bombings at the Kabul airport which left 12 US servicemembers dead and 15 wounded. “Know this; We will not forgive. We will not forget. We. will hunt you down and make you pay,” he said. In a surreal press conference that included bible quotes, a moment of silence, and blaming President Trump, Biden said he was open to sending US forces back into Afghanistan to assist with the withdrawal. “Whatever they need, if they need additional force, I will grant it,” he said, adding that the US military can target ISIS-K without “large scale military operations.”


Biden said he was in near ‘constant’ communication with military commanders via letter, and that he’d asked them to draw up plans to retaliate against the terrorist group (via carrier pigeon?). Of note, after reading his speech on the teleprompter, Biden said out loud “The first person I was instructed to call upon…” before taking questions. Trump also said he ‘bears responsibility for all that’s happened,’ before turning around and blaming Trump for the deal he ‘inherited.’ He then gave Trump credit for the only reason there was relative peace in Afghanistan until now. Then, towards the end of the presser, Biden said “I have another meeting, for real” – implying other ‘meetings’ haven’t been?

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“It’s just appalling and shocking and makes you feel unclean.”

US Provided Taliban With Names Of Americans, Afghan Allies To Evacuate (Pol.)

U.S. officials in Kabul gave the Taliban a list of names of American citizens, green card holders and Afghan allies to grant entry into the militant-controlled outer perimeter of the city’s airport, a choice that’s prompted outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials. The move, detailed to POLITICO by three U.S. and congressional officials, was designed to expedite the evacuation of tens of thousands of people from Afghanistan as chaos erupted in Afghanistan’s capital city last week after the Taliban seized control of the country. It also came as the Biden administration has been relying on the Taliban for security outside the airport.

Since the fall of Kabul in mid-August, nearly 100,000 people have been evacuated, most of whom had to pass through the Taliban’s many checkpoints. But the decision to provide specific names to the Taliban, which has a history of brutally murdering Afghans who collaborated with the U.S. and other coalition forces during the conflict, has angered lawmakers and military officials. “Basically, they just put all those Afghans on a kill list,” said one defense official, who like others spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive topic. “It’s just appalling and shocking and makes you feel unclean.” Asked about POLITICO’s reporting during a Thursday news conference, President Joe Biden said he wasn’t sure there were such lists, but also didn’t deny that sometimes the U.S. hands over names to the Taliban.

“There have been occasions when our military has contacted their military counterparts in the Taliban and said this, for example, this bus is coming through with X number of people on it, made up of the following group of people. We want you to let that bus or that group through,” he said. “So, yes there have been occasions like that. To the best of my knowledge, in those cases, the bulk of that has occurred and they have been let through. “I can’t tell you with any certitude that there’s actually been a list of names,” he added. “There may have been. But I know of no circumstance. It doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist, that here’s the names of 12 people, they’re coming, let them through. It could very well have happened.”

[..] After the fall of Kabul, in the earliest days of the evacuation, the joint U.S. military and diplomatic coordination team at the airport provided the Taliban with a list of people the U.S. aimed to evacuate. Those names included Afghans who served alongside the U.S. during the 20-year war and sought special immigrant visas to America. U.S. citizens, dual nationals and lawful permanent residents were also listed. “They had to do that because of the security situation the White House created by allowing the Taliban to control everything outside the airport,” one U.S. official said. But after thousands of visa applicants arrived at the airport, overwhelming the capacity of the U.S. to process them, the State Department changed course — asking the applicants not to come to the airport and instead requesting they wait until they were cleared for entry. From then on, the list fed to the Taliban didn’t include those Afghan names. As of Aug. 25, only U.S. passport and green card holders were being accepted as eligible for evacuation, the defense official said.

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“The U.S. Government has taken note as new store locations open up for future drone pilot target practice.”

Taliban Opens Chain Of U.S. Army Surplus Stores (BBee)

Now that Allah has seen fit to bless the Taliban with bountiful weapons and equipment from the U.S. Military, terrorists around Afghanistan have built an already thriving chain of U.S. Army Surplus stores. “We need weapons to kill and subjugate the Afghan people under Sharia Law, but there’s just too much gear here!” said local Taliban leader Bob Muhammed. “There’s, like, billions of dollars and 20 years worth of weaponry around here, and now I can build a thriving business out of selling my wares to other terrorist folk who happen to pass through! Allah be praised!”


Although the merchandise will not be available to the general public (for obvious reasons), Muhammed’s Army Surplus will feature a full selection of deadly weaponry, ammunition, combat boots, MREs, helmets, hashish, and whatever else a soldier of Allah may need. If successful, Bob Muhammed hopes to open more stores in Iraq and Syria. The U.S. Government has taken note as new store locations open up for future drone pilot target practice.

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    Claude Monet Hollowed Cliff near Étretat 1883   • Coroner Confirms 44-Year-old BBC Presenter Died From Vaccine Side Effect (RT) • New Zealand Pol
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 27 2021]

    #85503
    V. Arnold
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    Claude Monet Hollowed Cliff near Étretat 1883

    So many versions and angles of view; love them all….
    Look it up on the internet to see a recent photo…well worth the miniscule effort…

    #85504
    those darned kids
    Participant

    two years to fatten the curve..

    #85505
    Oroboros
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    I like ‘fatten’ the curve instead of flatten

    Obscene drug profits are definitely fattened

    My auto-correct typed it as:

    fatten the curse

    perfect

    #85506
    John Day
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    “Vaccine Diamond Princess” All-Y’all have seen this information. No pics this time, either. Bike-to-clinic now. Caring for my patients is a sacred privilege.
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/08/vaccine-diamond-princess.html

    A Vietnamese hospital had to lock down for 32 weeks with all staff in place, all fully vaccinated. A separate strain of delta-Covid was spreading through their ranks, and was different (sequencing done) from what was spreading outside those walls. The viral loads in their noses were 251 times as high as viral loads in early 2020 with alpha-COVID infections, measured by the same group. There are 2 differences, delta-Covid, and vaccination with alpha-spike-protein. If the vaccination is boosting this particular viral sub-strain, it will spread accordingly.
    ​ ​“This group had actually calculated viral load from oral and nasal secretions in the past. The viral load was 251 times that of the previous unvaccinated era where they had used the same methodology. So, they had previous workers and patients who had COVID-19 before any exposure to the vaccines. And now the vaccinated were carrying a massive viral load and passing it to one another.”

    Dr. Peter McCullough Tells RFK, Jr.: ‘The Vaccines Are Failing’

    #85507
    John Day
    Participant

    Oops, “had to lock down for 2 weeks”

    #85508

    Would like some input. Will soon have to address the question: “What are governments et al going to do when they can no longer avoid the fact that the vaccines don’t work?” The PHE briefing referenced in the last two Debt Rattles make this very clear: “Vaccine Effectiveness 15% in the Over-50s, 37% in the Under-50s” and “67% Of UK Covid-19 Deaths Since February 2021 Were Vaccinated”.

    No, it’s not that the vaccines don’t do anything, but c’mon man, 15%?! That’s for people inoculated 7 months ago. And a booster shot of the exact same substance will do what, “protect” you for 7 weeks? They have put all their “money” on the same color and number on the spinning wheel table, so I wonder how they’ll wiggle their behinds out of this.

    Sky, based on the exact same briefing, says Cases Of Coronavirus Are Rising – But Is It Time To Panic? Nothing about effectiveness, others have to dig that out of the briefing.

    What this really meansw is: the vaccines are not working, hence the rising cases, and that the deaths don’t rise much is not because of the vaccines, as they all keep saying, but because Delta is relatively benign.

    But so: what will they do when this conclusion from Britain’s own goverment becomes unavoidable? They can close the flood gates for a while, but the water keeps rising.

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    Dr. D
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    Etretat

    etre

    Court stops eviction moratorium, again. Will Biden then just break the law, again? Inquiring minds want to know.

    And noting the CDC claims sovereignty over all law, all property, all humans, for all time and space, forever. Oh, and they were never elected and can never be removed. Like the EU. Happy Independence Day!

    And other unelected groups that control all time, space, and humanity, the Fed seems to be setting up a “taper” now. That may be nothing more than inflating slightly LESS, like 5% instead of 20%, but it hardly matters. Someone asked this here, answer: the Fed and their Wall St pals make money on jamming the levers suddenly up and down, on the the volatility. They don’t care if the market goes down! They know the day because they are the cause. They make 3x as much per hour because drops are 3x faster and only insiders have the skills and equipment to play them. Then it creates the cover “Save me Daddy government! I lost a dollar! Capitalism means there is no risk, nobody ever fails, there’s no such things as bankruptcy!” (Or is it the OPPOSITE? I’m confused.) They’re first (and only) at the trough of $23T in free money that they now have license to print because YOU, yes you, demanded it. Instead of their complete dissolution, bankruptcy, dismemberment, scattering to the winds, and plowing them under in eternal ignominy they deserve.

    But we’re seeing wisps of that, since everyone apparently is so thick-skulled they can literally publish this on national TV every day for weeks and no one gets at all suspicious. Here’s what I would do: After claiming they would fire anybody in Bitcoin, Dimon lied, lied, and lied again and used those two years he was lying, lying, lying, to accumulate Bitcoin. Oh and PS, that was an SEC crime. They presently have it. Laws were then allowed to change, get buy-in from billionaire hedge funds to own a little of the new crypto-thingie. But sell it to them at $6,000? Hahahaha! F– no! That’s where they bought it! So you set up the concrete wall, then let BTC run to $200k, sell to the idiot pensions on the media-bought, fake, phony, false made-up, paid excitement market-rigging, have the BTC price slam face first into the Fed “Deflation”, which is the only force in the universe certain to contain it. Then the PENSIONS, that is YOU, take the 90% loss back to, say $30k two years from now. Aw…just bad luck mate, at the Casino Royale.

    That’s what I’d do, and I see the pieces being set up to fall over right now. Yes, it’s a trap, but it’s your job to steal the bail and tear the trap to pieces with your bear claws, then chase the trap-makers down the mountain in fear of their lives. If they can’t outrun you, oh well: things happen. Will anyone bother though? Or just eat the bait they never wanted, get caught, say “oh well” and are then fleeced and eaten?

    Apparently Covid is very, very dangerous. Everybody who was involved in studying or developing it seems to die a violent, unexplained death. I lost count at seven:
    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/medicine/was-the-origin-of-covid-from-a-canadian-lab/

    Don’t worry, I’m sure Daszak is investigating this thoroughly.

    “the vaccinated are now still vulnerable to getting and spreading COVID-19. When will the lie be exposed? How much longer? The computer shows the collapse in public confidence, which is becoming obvious.” –Armstrong. How could it not?

    “The collapse in confidence in government also means that you then do not buy their debt at artificially low interest rates. That means the financial system is unsustainable, which is why they are pushing digital currencies to enforce all taxes.”

    “Time’s Up’ CEO Tina Tchen Resigns Amid Backlash to Group’s [non-stop] Aiding Andrew Cuomo” –NBC

    Collapse in confidence like that? People are so silly. Just because every group that stops or watchdogs something actually promotes it, every regulator works for corporate fraud and not the people, every CEO lies and isn’t arrested by the SEC, and every court who looks at it thinks it’s wonderful, legal, and nothing to see or punish, doesn’t mean anyone should get suspicious or withdraw their consent. Where do they get these ideas?

    I think 12 guys on YouTube. Otherwise: inexplicable.

    Somebody pointed out the cheap new media push where all photos on all sites show a needle in a human arm. Let the drinking game begin! (Except you’d be drunk by 6am). But no one talks to anyone or coordinates anything. Where do you get these ideas?

    Speaking of ideas, the DNC has subpoenaed all GOP records in all time and space, among all people, for all years, involving all elections, all strategies, all thoughts, …oh, Jan 6 something-something. This is considered credible, required, perfect democracy to wiretap, harass, and fish all opposition, anywhere, at all times.

    You Do Not Have the ‘Constitutional Right’ to Refuse the Covid-19 Vaccine” –CNN

    Whoops, I missed that part where the state owns me and I don’t have sovereignty over my own body and life.

    “At one time, children were the property of their fathers, but that is no longer the case.” she continues; they are owned by the state. In fact, so worthless, they can be owned by the lowest, dumbest, least overseen department of the State: any School board that ever met once, drunk and in the dark. Sucks to be you, parents! If anything goes wrong you’ll get the lifelong bill! Whether the child is harmed OR the district, ‘cause you’ll get an unlimited tax bill too! Or both! I get a pension AND I get to arrest you if you don’t like it! Hahahaha!

    “The school district mandates that reduce the risk of death to children should be enforceable, period.”
    They say you can’t drive them to school in a car, because “risk of death”. They own that too. And 40-ounce Cokes, bike helmets, communion wine, can’t play football or karate even on your own time…

    “If a government does not take reasonable action to prevent the likely deaths of so many people, there will be more lawsuits. Already, we’ve seen schools filing lawsuits against former Trump administration officials and individuals suing the World Health Organization contending that they mishandled the Covid-19 response.”

    And then hoisted on their own petard of legal nonsense of responsibility. Sorry for them, but that’s not why we SHOULD, that’s why we CAN’T. If schools are then responsible, for all children, everywhere, at all times, then their legal liability then extends to all INJURIES, of all children, at all times. The parents can then sue the school for allowing the family to go on scuba vacation. Why didn’t they warn the parents and prohibit it? …And that’s why it’s legal nonsense, non-starter.

    “Americans [falsely believe] that they have a constitutional right to refuse vaccination. This is a license to potentially infect others with a deadly disease”

    Okay, let’s argue the opposite: if they don’t have the right to refuse – ever – then the government can do anything they like to them. Invent 70 new vaccines paid/lobbied by Pfizer and their wholly-own CDC, or indeed, if ANYTHING is “potentially” dangerous, they can stop that too: driving, biking, walking by rivers, pouring concrete, selling food, talking. It’s universal sovereignty of the state, everywhere, to all things, at all times. Oh wait: they HAVE. That’s not potential, they are DOING it, past tense.

    …And the CDC said they already own that power, not the Government. The government, and you, must step aside and obey your betters: Mr. Science, Technocrat Extraordinaire.

    As Karl says, “..if being vaccinated makes the person who gets it more-infectious then being jabbed is not only personally dangerous it is dangerous to public health..”

    Okay, Ms. Marci Hamilton of Vanderbilt, then you’re now required NOT to ALLOW the shot. Checkmate. P.S. She founded Child USA, child protection group at Penn State, home of selling child-events to Congressmen from nearby D.C. Irony is dead: clean your own backyard with your own colleges before nagging and scolding your betters: dropout NASCAR rednecks in trailers who clearly hold a superior understanding of law.

    Here’s the law to Rednecks: “Make me.” Her law depends on one ruling from a Supreme Court that change their mind and reverse themselves all the time. However, the PEOPLE HAVE SOVEREIGNTY OVER THE SUPREME COURT. We are THEIR veto. Not them to us. Oops.

    “The Sheeple with three shots will turn and ‘pull rank’ on the Sheeple with only two Clot Shots,”

    And I thought I was kidding about the Sneetches. The country is more illiterate than I thought if they’ve never made it to Dr. Seuss.

    Sorry, I haven’t read this one, but I can’t buy ISIS in F-Stan at all. There isn’t even a “Taliban” vs Afghan…Clearly! There is only Pushtun. There is no way any other group, even Islamic, would live a month in Taliban/Pushtun land without express permission, and express power-over to annihilate at any time, coupled with raucous laughter and back-slapping. ISIS-K is therefore CIA, just like they were in Syria. Note the timing: DAY after F-Stan gov’t needs a replacement bogeyman, DAY of cameras on the airport, Lo! A group nobody heard of, suddenly been there all along! At war with Estasia! Media who could never tell the difference between any Shia/Sunni, Arab/Persian, Muslim/Sikh in their sorry sheltered lives suddenly know all about it, publish super true but sooper-dooper trues! But it’ll take me a bit to prove it.

    “Coroner Confirms 44-Year-old BBC Presenter Died from Vaccine Side Effect (RT)”

    Yes, but how much worse if they HADN’T got it? Ikyn, news “people” have already said this.

    “[Americans] have the ability to bury the establishment six feet under if we organized to do so..”

    Or better: DIS-organized to do so. Can’t fight something that’s everywhere, doing everything. How about just slow-walking all actions, by the book? That alone would stall them for years in their own crooked system.

    “Arkansas Jail Dosing Inmates With Ivermectin, In Spite Of FDA Warnings (AP)”

    Guess I’ll have to get arrested. Actually, I popped up to remind that IF you have Covid, you’re then sent into a jail to…infect everyone else in the system I guess? For you/their safety? Well somebody’s safety that isn’t you, isn’t them, isn’t the inmates, isn’t the judge, and isn’t the jailers. Details are hazy, but we put infected people in nursing homes jails for SOME safe reason. Government said it, so I believe it, that’s it!

    Two Twenty years to flatten the curve humanity.

    #85510
    Dora
    Participant

    The question asked above “what are goverments going to do when when they have to admit vaxes aren’t working as well as predicted” might be reformulated as “how will govts keep the extra-constitutional controls they’ve granted themselves once they have to admit the vaxes aren’t working as predicted”. Don’t think the govts want to relinquish the new powers they’ve granted themselves during C19.

    Interesting article at The Mises Institute site – a libertarian leaning site ( … even so, it’s a good article, imo).

    Writer points out what he sees as all the opportunities C19 gives large entities to increase their power and wealth. His argument is coherent about the opportunism involved. Can’t say if he’s correct.

    https://mises.org/wire/vaccine-mandates-and-great-reset

    #85511
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    “What will they do when this conclusion from Britain’s own goverment becomes unavoidable? ”

    I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately. In NL the main narrative is still going strong, people believe the vaccines will save them from getting (seriously) sick and that herd immunity is just around the corner. We’re at 85% of adults vaccinated now, third jab coming next month, probably, yet it’s the unvaxxed who are causing all the problems. Meanwhile ICU staff are quitting much faster than they can be recruited, so that bodes well for the coming flu season.

    If western governments are all kowtowing to the WEFfers demands, does that mean that our “leaders” have lost all ability to think for themselves even, as you say, as hard data comes in? What about their “scientific” advisers from the CDC/MHRA/RIVM,who seem to be struggling to spot a black cat in the snow?

    You’ve already opined that the WEFfers couldn’t organize a farting contest in a wind tunnel, so at what point do our “leaders” see that they’re full of putrid excrement?

    They can’t possibly hope to keep this under wraps forever and once the general public cottons on there’s going to be a run on lampposts and rope.

    #85512
    those darned kids
    Participant

    one curse to flatten them all..

    #85514
    Just Some Randomer
    Participant

    “But so: what will they do when this conclusion from Britain’s own goverment becomes unavoidable?”

    Certainly not admit that they got it all spectacularly wrong. I rather suspect they will instead double down and blame the situation on the shock appearance of a ‘New Variant’ that spontaneously developed among the unvaccinated members of the public (Curse those heretics!) who must therefore, sadly, be offered the choice of relocation to Devil’s Island or being hunted down with tracker dogs and, when found, given a shot of vax the size of a coke bottle ‘Just to be Sure’.

    #85515
    deflationista
    Participant

    But, you know all of this already, right…..?

    “Since its founding last year by Dr. Simone Gold, a Los Angeles physician who was later arrested during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, America’s Frontline Doctors has nurtured medical conspiracies popular in right-wing circles. Created as a political project to support the Trump Administration’s economic reopening push, it ricocheted from promoting skepticism about COVID-19 to launching a national RV tour to denounce “medical censorship and cancel culture.”

    https://time.com/6092368/americas-frontline-doctors-covid-19-misinformation/

    #85516
    those darned kids
    Participant

    doc d: didn’t you hear about the deir ez-zor/langley/kabul pipeline? more sludge than keystone 7, and much more difficult to refine.

    #85517

    I’m devastated, def, because Time magazine is the bible for everything true and holy in my life. Darn, that wicked Simone Gold; isn’t she also the person who invented the mRA vaccine, or am I getting things mixed up now?

    #85518
    those darned kids
    Participant

    George Bush Center for Intelligence

    hahahahaha!

    the anthony fauci center for honesty
    the joseph r. biden jr. center for ethics and leadership
    the barack obama center for poverty reduction
    the richard cheney center for peace studies
    the donald j. trump center for class and sophistication
    the mohammad bin salman center for minority rights
    the jeff bezos center for empathy

    #85519
    those darned kids
    Participant

    But, you know all of this already, right…..?

    “Security experts say they are watching closely to see how, exactly, the U.S. responds to ISIS-K—and whether military retaliation against the terrorist group runs the risk of drawing American forces back into Afghanistan. “The next thing you know, it will be a redux of what happened with al-Qaeda in 2001,” Taneja says.”

    https://time.com/6093298/isis-k-kabul-airport-attack/

    hahahahahaha, ¡time!

    [funny how time mag tears apart america’s frontline doctors, yet praises america’s frontline fascists]

    #85520
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Ilargi: “They can close the flood gates for a while, but the water keeps rising.”

    The “social contract” is fraying as government officials keep breaking the “deals” they made with the public — “15 days to flatten the curve” etc.

    the social contract is a theory or model that originated during the Age of Enlightenment and usually concerns the legitimacy of the authority of the state over the individual. Social contract arguments typically posit that individuals have consented, either explicitly or tacitly, to surrender some of their freedoms and submit to the authority (of the ruler, or to the decision of a majority) in exchange for protection of their remaining rights or maintenance of the social order. [Wikipedia]

    The social contract can only be stretched a certain amount before it breaks, and like strands of rope breaking, it probably happens like bankruptcy, slowly at first, then all at once.

    An example of the social contract can be seen in yesterday’s news. Zerohedge had an article “Reporter Urges Aussies To Get Vaccinated Despite Suffering Rare Heart Inflammation Caused By Pfizer Jab” but the headline is misleading and the story is more nuanced.

    The Australian guy’s name is Denham Hitchcock, and these are his words:

    I’m NOT anti-vax. But I’m really not pro-vax either. I’m pro-choice – and pro information to make that choice. Above all, I’m PRO opening the bloody country up, and to do that I don’t see any way around getting the majority of Australia vaccinated. So I got the Pfizer shot… 25 days after the shot and probably a little late to hospital – but here I am – diagnosed with pericarditis – or inflammation of the heart due to the Pfizer vaccine.

    If you don’t want the vaccine – I don’t have a problem with that either – but life and travel will get difficult for you.
    The only thing for me that’s dead certain – if they don’t open Australia up when we reach their milestone of 70% – then there will be a lot more people marching in the street. Do you want the trust? Keep your damn promise.

    https://truthpeep.com/denham-hitchcock-ive-battled-over-whether-to-send-this-post-from-hospital-or-not/27/08/2021/

    #85521
    Just Some Randomer
    Participant

    “Above all, I’m PRO opening the bloody country up, and to do that I don’t see any way around getting the majority of Australia vaccinated.”

    And it is thanks to lazy thinking like this that have ended up in hospital, likely, with permanent heart damage, Mr Hitchcock. Could lack of curiosity also kill the cat?

    #85522
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #85523
    Mr. House
    Participant

    So when do we flay Bill Gates? Draw and quarter? I’m open to suggestions 😉

    #85524
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “Could lack of curiosity also kill the cat?”

    Yes, although the guy said he’s “pro-choice – and pro information to make that choice” and I think that most of the blame generally falls on the formerly trusted providers of information, instead of on the victims of the vaxx shots.

    #85525
    Mr. House
    Participant

    What do they call it when your arms and legs are tied to a horse on each end and they pull in different directions?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/ends-debate-israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-13x-more-effective-vaccines-stopping

    #85526
    Mr. House
    Participant

    I can’t remember what book it was where they bury an old man under heavy stones to get him to confess to being a witch, and he says “more weight” but that might also be suitable.

    #85527
    Noirette
    Participant

    To me it feels like the Taliban just fell, stumbled into, a power void. I know, yes, they ‘held’ good parts of the country and the maps that like to paint large areas with color showed a steady ‘advance’ of the Pashtun peasants. But what did that mean? Unclear. Perhaps the rule in Afghanistan was more a power-sharing and very mixed scheme, which included ‘local’ potentates, following a ‘tribal, regional’ model. Orlov had a post about the Pashtuns (free to read), gives some detail… Note, even with all the land they ‘held’ they did not stop poppy cultivation.

    All the anti-imperialists and contra-Amrikis are championing the Taliban, seen as having morphed from violent backward scum to noble leaders, the “New” Taliban, supposedly completely different from the old, ready to embrace e.g. education and jobs for girls. Can such leopards change their spots? Societal models, power-distribution-schemes, are quite resistant to change (those without the blood in the streets / genocide scenario) so there is that…

    KSA, I’m comparing the Islamist part, the KSA model rests for a large part on +++ oil revenues.. has education for girls and the possibilty of women having jobs, in a very limited way, partly for image only.

    KSA has been ‘modernising’ with 20 or x year plans since forever but never changes, or only cosmetically so. (Letting women drive if they can’t go out alone merely leads to job loss for Philippino chauffeurs….)

    Of course women’s place is only a part of the story, it is an outcome of the structure of governance. (In KSA, top royals control lesser royals thru distribution of resources via jobs, advantages; the men control the women, and the women control the children, and some of the ‘slaves.’) This is a template of ‘light’ ‘low cost’ governance, suited to scattered tribes in semi-hostile terrain. As Orlov notes for the Pashtun, consensus is of vital importance, as it must be, for anything to be achieved.

    Imho, the Taliban’s first problem is order within their ranks (maybe I’m overestimating that?), but they are a loose band with different mind-sets and Idk who, how, the chain of command goes. (KSA has regulated the question since forever by hereditary criteria, the ‘royals’ set, and simple institutionalised top-down power relations.) The second is ‘modernisation’ – The Graveyard of Empires is so because all the efforts were in a sense “modernisation by central / one power-hub control” and they all failed. Now the Taliban have inherited the position of all the previous failers, a very strange situation. The third is finance…other topic.

    I read that for Kabul University they are appointing one Talib as head of each Faculty, and that nothing much would change, they have urged everyone to continue their work, tasks. They (reportedly) will enforce separate F/M education in the physical sense (screens, sep. classrooms).. and some curricula will be changed (?).. The new boss is definetly not the same as the old boss! – How does that work out long term? Note that US universities are in some ways subjected to ideological craziness as well, in a mirror contrast: “safe spaces”, a ban on distinguishing or comparing the sexes, etc. All this of course serves as distraction and cover-ups, via Proclaimed Positions that are Socially Moral and Necessary, to control the ppl lower on the pole working in the structure.

    http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2021/07/a-case-study-in-national-shame.html

    #85528
    Mr. House
    Participant

    well this would explain those magnet videos from earlier in the year

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/japan-withdraws-16-million-moderna-doses-over-contaminant-reacts-magnets

    They can’t even not contaminate their own damn vaccine, trust the science!

    #85529
    those darned kids
    Participant

    just as historians refer to the 1930’s as “the great depression”,

    historians will refer to the 2020’s as “the great anxiety”.

    #85530
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “What do they call it when your arms and legs are tied to a horse on each end and they pull in different directions?”

    Levi’s?
    MuleTrain
    https://i.etsystatic.com/9311771/r/il/fcf3cf/2574224178/il_1588xN.2574224178_lsev.jpg

    #85532
    zerosum
    Participant

    Only some bloggers know the truth. Readers of TAE
    “The country is more illiterate than I thought if they’ve never made it to Dr. Seuss.”
    ———-
    http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2021/07/a-case-study-in-national-shame.html
    the rule in Afghanistan was more a power-sharing
    ———-
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/taliban-says-28-its-members-killed-blasts-total-death-toll-climbs-past-100
    Taliban Says 28 Of Its Members Killed In Blasts, Blames US For “Chaotic Evacuation”

    #85533
    oldandtired
    Participant

    You know what testing positive is when you are asymptotic? A participation trophy.

    #85534
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    “Since its founding last year by Dr. Simone Gold, a Los Angeles physician who was later arrested during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, America’s Frontline Doctors has nurtured medical conspiracies popular in right-wing circles. Created as a political project to support the Trump Administration’s economic reopening push, it ricocheted from promoting skepticism about COVID-19 to launching a national RV tour to denounce “medical censorship and cancel culture.”

    Nice example of ad hominem attacks.

    More interested in evidence of whether their protocols vis a vis Covid work or don’t work, harm or don’t cause harm. Don’t much care what the predominant lean of their politics are. When a few days ago Raul saw the start of a video of a doctor that seemed to say ivermectin didn’t work, ears here perked up, and the video was watched. Naw, the doctor was pointing out that if ivermectin is difficult to get and use, other drugs can be used to treat Covid effectively. Wasn’t adverse to ivermectin.

    Granted, with a disease that is mild in so many, it is easy to say “the treatment worked!” The exact same can be said about a vaccine that only protects against severe disease — if a vaccinated person gets Covid and isn’t hospitalized it can be said that the vaccine worked. Hence, we need data, mounds and mounds of data. Hard to get good data when there is money to be made on perpetuating fear and getting rid of control groups.

    #85536
    Germ
    Participant

    What could possibly go wrong?!

    “Researchers Ready Lab-Grown Covid-19 Delta Variant for Human Trials”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/researchers-ready-lab-grown-covid-19-delta-variant-for-human-trials-11630053797pany is growing the highly contagious variant under tight lab controls for use in challenge studies

    #85537
    those darned kids
    Participant

    mr. gates should be locked away on monster island with only a dial-up connection running explorer on windows 8.

    #85538
    those darned kids
    Participant

    couldn’t they just send them to an arkansas hospital? cnn keeps yelling it’s full up with deltas.

    #85539
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    mr. gates should be locked away on monster island with only a dial-up connection running explorer on windows 8.

    If I have to be stuck with Windows XP because they stopped making computers that actually start up when you bring them home from WorstBuy (manufacturing dead-as-a-doorstop turds is just so cheap and profitable, you know), then Billy-Boy can live with XP, too!

    #85540
    Dr. D
    Participant
    #85541
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    That’s why my server is Linux…but it’s a pain when it occasionally crashes because I don’t already know how to fix it and it takes time to learn a new system from the ground up….(it doesn’t crash often, less than once per year)

    #85542
    Noirette
    Participant

    Raul: What are governments et al. going to do when they can no longer avoid the fact that the vaccines don’t work?

    Most (in the West) will NEVER admit that openly, frankly.

    First, hedging, as we can see already:

    — > They did work, but only for a short time / prevented the most horrific suffering / didn’t stop illness / transmission / in some ppl, some time, whatever.. Breakthrough surprises, dreadful .. A heady mix of all that.

    Rationale: It was an emergency, you gotta hit and sometimes you miss. Saving lives is the top priority!

    — > Boosters are needed, and probably more boosters next (note the flu vax that meant getting jabbed once a year) so vaxxs DO have to continue, for everyone, it is a sensible precaution, a civic duty.. plus FREE, think of the children! (Oh and they need to be jabbed as well..)

    More hedging, Xtra measures:

    — > As the vaxxs are a definite help (or partly failed.. or sadly not much use..) they are not the ultimate solution as herd immunity wasn’t achieved, due to anti-vaxxers ducking away, and maybe comprehensible errors of med. procedure in this novel dire! situation, or who knows what, we need to implement more stringent measures, attack the virus more forcibly, be more determined!

    —> More vaxx ‘mandates’, making them obligatory, and vaxxing ppl against their will, and opening up facilities for “quarantine” which will house anti-vaxxers, dissidents, refusniks, and having Lockowns (see dystopic Australia..)

    There will be > doubling down, authoritarianism, etc.

    How does it all end? Idk. Many outcomes possible.

    #85543
    oldandtired
    Participant

    “Our test equipment takes a drop of your blood and tests for a variety of conditions, rapidly and effectively.” Theranos

    “Elizabeth, hold my beer…” Dr. fauci

    #85544
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Money quote:

    “It’s obvious that this so-called pandemic has become an excuse to push people around.”

    And their sycophant corner office bureaucrats are enjoying it.

    Glide Path Low and Dark

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