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Berthe Morisot The old track to Auvers 1863

 

My Tweets With The Chairman Of The Sage Covid Modelling Committee (Nelson)
New York, UK: Covid Case Records, Hospitalizations And Deaths Remain Low (JTN)
The First 785 SARS-CoV-2 Omicron Variant Cases In Denmark (ES)
Runny Nose, Headache, And Fatigue Are Commonest Symptoms Of Omicron (BMJ)
CDC Forecast: Covid Cases Will Jump By 55%, Deaths Will Surge By 73% (DM)
Fauci Foresees Potential Record Death Rate From Omicron (NW)
COVID-19 Protocolists are Killing People. By-Demand NOW (Lyons-Weiler)
‘The Moment Of Truth Has Come’ For Russia & NATO – Moscow (RT)
Israeli-led Central Bank Simulation Preparation For Great Reset – Yeadon (DT.nz)
China & Russia Are Ready To End US Dominance Of Global Finance (Diesen)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Spectator Editor Fraser Nelson tweets with Graham Medley—chair of COVID modeling for UK Government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE).

Turns out SAGE doesn’t model mild scenarios, because those don’t require government actions. The gov’t sees only extreme scenarios.

My Tweets With The Chairman Of The Sage Covid Modelling Committee (Nelson)

The latest Sage papers have been published, envisaging anything from 200 to 6,000 deaths a day from Omicron depending on how many more restrictions we’ll get – up to and very much including another lockdown. Earlier today I had an unexpected chance to ask questions of Graham Medley, the chair of the Sage modelling committee. He’s a professor at London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) which last weekend published a study on Omicron with very gloomy scenarios and making the case for more restrictions. But JP Morgan had a close look at this study and spotted something big: all the way through, LSHTM assumes that the Omicron variant is just as deadly as Delta. ‘But evidence from South Africa suggests that Omicron infections are milder,’ JP Morgan pointed out in a note to clients. Adjust for this, it found, and the picture changes dramatically:-

“Bed occupancy by Covid-19 patients at the end of January would be 33% of the peak seen in January 2021. This would be manageable without further restrictions.’ So JP Morgan had shown that, if you tweak one assumption (on severity) then – suddenly – no need for lockdown. Why was this scenario left out? Why would this fairly-important and fairly-basic fact on Omicron modelling not presented by SAGE modellers like Prof Medley to ministers – and to the general public? I was thrilled for the chance to speak to him on Twitter. It was kind of him to make the time (he’s still going, as far as I can make out). The Spectator data hub has a page devoted to past Sage modelling vs actual, and I wanted to make sure I was not being unfair to Sage in my selection or presentation of those charts.

The latest Sage paper-drop – the 6,000-deaths-a-day one – refers to ‘scenarios,’ not predictions. Prof Medley emphasises the distinction: saying something could happen is not saying that there’s a realistic chance of it happening. But then why do SAGE modellers publish some scenarios and not others? I then jumped to ask Prof Medley.

Revealingly, he seemed to think my question odd: if it’s quite plausible that Omicron is mild and doesn’t the threaten the NHS, what would be the point of including that as a ‘scenario’? He seemed to suggest that he has been given a very limited brief, and asked to churn out worse-case scenarios without being asked to comment on how plausible they are. “We generally model what we are asked to model. There is a dialogue in which policy teams discuss with the modellers what they need to inform their policy.” Might this remit mean leaving out just-as-plausible, quite-important scenarios that would not require lockdown? “Decision-makers are generally on only interested in situations where decisions have to be made.”


Note how careful he is to stay vague on whether any of the various scenarios in the Sage document are likely or even plausible. What happened to the original system of presenting a ‘reasonable worse-case scenario’ together with a central scenario? And what’s the point of modelling if it doesn’t say how likely any these scenarios are? From what Prof Medley says, it’s unclear that the most-likely scenario is even being presented to ministers this time around. So how are they supposed to make good decisions? I highly doubt that Sajid Javid is only asking to churn out models that make the case for lockdown. That instruction, if it is being issued, will have come from somewhere else.

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Mild. A four letter word.

New York, UK: Covid Case Records, Hospitalizations And Deaths Remain Low (JTN)

Authorities reported record-breaking COVID-19 case counts in multiple major regions across the world late this week, offering further signs of the omicron variant’s high transmissibility. However, hospitalizations and deaths attributable to the disease remained much lower than earlier surges, suggesting a shift in the pandemic after roughly two years of natural immunity and about a year of vaccinations. The United Kingdom had two back-to-back record-breaking days this week, posting case numbers tens of thousands higher than the earlier one-day record almost exactly a year ago in January. New York State had a less-dramatic yet still firmly record-breaking day as it struggles with its own surge there.


Gov. Kathy Hochul’s office said the has set another single-day positive COVID case record with nearly 22,000 positive cases reported in 24 hours, abc7ny.com reported Saturday. Yet in both cases, hospitalizations and deaths have remained markedly lower than in lower surges: In New York deaths have risen slightly since the beginning of the month but have continued on the largely flat trajectory they’ve held since the summer. Deaths in the United Kingdom have remained similarly low, and hospitalizations in both regions are lower than in earlier surges. “The omicron symptoms have been very mild,” Yves Derouseu, the emergency services director at Lenox Hill Hospital, told NBC4 New York. “The impact on those vaccinated has been clinically mild. It’s not converting to admissions to the hospital, or deaths.”

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The study is at the link. The text here is Robert Malone’s summary of it (https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/omicron-today).

The First 785 SARS-CoV-2 Omicron Variant Cases In Denmark (ES)

Denmark, as of December 9, 2021. Denmark has one of the highest RT-PCR testing capacities in the world and screens all positive RT-PCR tests with an Omicron-specific PCR – allowing screening for Omicron. There have been 785 SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant cases identified in Denmark. The earliest Omicron cases in Denmark occurred before South Africa announced the emergence of this variant. Most cases were fully (76%) or booster-vaccinated (7.1%); 34 (4.3%) had a previous SARS-CoV-2 infection. The majority of cases with available information reported symptoms (509/666; 76%) and most were infected in Denmark (588/644; 91%). One in five cases cannot be linked to previous cases, indicating widespread community transmission. Nine cases have been hospitalized, one required intensive care and no deaths have been registered.

Highlights:

· 1.2% of cases have been hospitalized

· 0.3% in intensive care

· 0% deaths.

· 83% were fully or booster vaccinated, 17% not vaccinated (including 2.6 vaccine started)

· 4.3% had previous SARS-CoV-2 infection

· 91% have no travel history, 9% reported travel

My take: this study is important because although there are studies and spokespeople from South Africa stating similar results, the Danish population in terms of age, body weight, life expectancy, etc. is more similar demographically to the US population. This Danish study suggests that Omicron will affect the American population similarly.

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The circle is round. If you can’t tell the difference bwteen Covid and a cold, you must get jabbed.

Runny Nose, Headache, And Fatigue Are Commonest Symptoms Of Omicron (BMJ)

The UK government has been urged to update its list of symptoms for covid-19, after early data showed that cold-like symptoms were the most commonly reported by people with the new omicron variant. Data released on 16 December by the Covid Symptoms Study,1 run by the health science company Zoe and King’s College London, show that the top five symptoms reported in the app for omicron infection were runny nose, headache, fatigue (either mild or severe), sneezing, and sore throat. This initial analysis was based on positive cases in London, which was selected because of its higher prevalence of omicron than in other parts of the UK. The government still lists fever, cough, and loss of sense of smell or taste—which were the most common with the alpha variant—as the covid symptoms to watch out for.

Tim Spector, lead scientist on the Zoe Covid Study app, who has been calling for the list of symptoms to be updated since the emergence of the delta variant,2 said a change was overdue. “The messaging from the government is just not clear on this,” he said. “I think most people know what cold-like symptoms are. I would probably just add [to the list]: ‘Have you got cold-like symptoms?’ We need to educate people, go back to the basics, and say that if you’ve got cold-like symptoms keep away from people. You shouldn’t be waiting for the three classic symptoms.” To compare delta and omicron, London data were selected from a week where delta was dominant (a sample of 363 cases from 3-10 October 2021) and compared with the most recent data (847 cases from 3-10 December 2021).

This initial analysis found no clear differences between delta and omicron in the early symptoms (three days after testing). Spector said it was vital that members of the public were aware of the symptoms to look out for, particularly in areas such as London that have very high rates of omicron infection. “If you do have symptoms of a mild or bad cold, it’s highly likely that you’ve got covid if you’re in an area like London at the moment,” he said. Spector said the UK was now an international exception in not listing cold-like symptoms as likely indicators of covid infection, noting that the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the World Health Organization, and European countries such as Spain and France had all updated their advice. “The UK is the odd one out,” he said. “They should amend it if the majority are presenting that way.”

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And after all that “mildness”, the CDC and Fauci think it’s still Halloween…

CDC Forecast: Covid Cases Will Jump By 55%, Deaths Will Surge By 73% (DM)

Grim new figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have predicted that US COVID-19 deaths will soar by 73 per cent to 15,600 a week by January 8, and that cases will rocket to 1.3 million a week by Christmas Day. The agency revealed projections on Wednesday afternoon that show America will suffer up to 15,600 new Covid deaths a week as of January 8 – or 2,228 deaths per day – a 58 per cent increase from 8,900 deaths currently being recorded each week, equivalent to 1,285 deaths a day. Another CDC prediction estimates that between 620,000 and 1.3 million Americans will have been diagnosed with Covid by the week that ends on December 25 – Christmas Day. That represents a 55% leap on the 840,000 cases that have been recorded over the last week.

Omicron will likely become the dominant Covid strain in the coming weeks, and cause a massive surge of cases shortly after Christmas, one expert has warned, likely fueling the surge the CDC predicts. Dr Gregory Poland, a top epidemiologist at the Mayo Clinic told DailyMail.com that an Omicron-fueled surge in cases could be right around the corner. ‘As best any of us can model, we will have an explosion of cases after the holidays in the in the early-to-mid-January timeframe,’ he said. ‘This variant is hyper transmissible, it spreads exponentially in an environment of cold weather, massive holiday get togethers, no masking and insufficient immunization.’

He believes it will become the dominant strain in the UK – which recorded a record 78,610 cases on Wednesday – in the coming days, and that the U.S. will follow around two weeks later. Cornell University in upstate New York is suspected to be home to the first US Omicron cluster, after 930 students were diagnosed with the virus in recent days. The college says every one of the positive tests it has sequenced so far has been the Omicron variant. A Cornell spokesman hasn’t said exactly how many Omicron cases have been identified, but added that they expect most, if not all, the 930 cases to be caused by the new variant.

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There is absolutely nothing to justify a warning like this.

Fauci Foresees Potential Record Death Rate From Omicron (NW)

Anthony Fauci, chief medical advisor to President Joe Biden, said on Sunday that record-breaking death rates could occur as the COVID Omicron variant spreads across the U.S. Fauci made an appearance on CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday, where host Jake Tapper pressed the leading infectious disease expert on where he believes the pandemic is headed. Tapper asked, “Do you expect new record high numbers for cases? And what about hospitalizations and deaths?” “Yes, well, unfortunately, Jake, I think that that is going to happen,” Fauci replied. “We are going to see a significant stress in some regions of the country on the hospital system, particularly in those areas where you have a low level of vaccination, which is one of the reasons why we continue to stress the importance of getting those unvaccinated people vaccinated.”

The Omicron variant was first reported by researchers in South Africa last month, after being detected in several southern African nations. It was detected in the U.S. earlier this month and has now been reported in most states. Experts predict that it will overtake Delta as the dominant variant in the U.S. in a few weeks. Fauci predicted that the country is in for a difficult time as the Omicron variant continues to spread and take over. “It is going to be tough,” Fauci said. “We can’t walk away from that, Jake. We can’t, because, with Omicron that we’re dealing with, it is going to be a tough few weeks to months as we get deeper into the winter.” Fauci also refuted the notion, expressed this week by Vice President Kamala Harris, that officials did not see COVID-19 variants coming. He reiterated that what is surprising about Omicron is not that it happened at all, but rather the number of mutations it seems to possess.

“We definitely saw variants coming,” he explained. “What was not anticipated was the extent of the mutations and the amino acid substitutions in Omicron, which is really unprecedented. It kind of came out of nowhere, where you have a virus that has 50 mutations, 30 of which are in the spike protein, and 10 or 12 of which are in the receptor binding domain. I mean, to me, that’s really quite unprecedented.”

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“You’ll be told that your loved one cannot stay off the oxygen support long enough to get nutrition, and then you’ll be told they are not tolerating the feeding tube.”

COVID-19 Protocolists are Killing People. By-Demand NOW (Lyons-Weiler)

Once your loved one is admitted for COVID-19 to a hospital full of protocolists, monoclonal antibodies are no longer an option. No reason is given, it’s just protocol. Once your loved one is admitted to a hospital full of protocolists for COVID-19, you cannot get the doctors to vary from the protocol with options other than those they are told they can use. Those options? -O2 support -Lovenox -Remdesivir -Vitamin D&C -Nasal cannula feeding tube -Intubation (ventilator) -Palliative care -Comfort care -Cremation, or relocation for embalming. If your loved one does not want Acetaminophen (e.g., Tylenol, or Ibuprofen (e.g., Motrin), but instead wants aspirin, it’s a no-go. Aspirin, by the way, helps break up microclots in the lungs. You’ll only get push-back on the risk of bleeding with long-term use.

COVID-19 is an acute condition. But hey, they have their protocols. Forget about Ivermectin. Forget about Hydroxychloroquine; the faked studies and Fauci tanked that option with bullshit logic. Forget about N-Acetyl-Cysteine, which helps the body increase O2 saturation levels. Forget about The COVID-19 Frontline Doctors protocols, I-MASK+, MATH+, and forget about Dr. Peter McCullough’s amazing dynamic and multi-faceted approach to treating COVID-19. Forget about all of these unless you are in a conservative county and can get a conservative judge to back patient choice. If you have time. And you won’t. Your loved one will be on oxygen support, like a bipap, maybe for a day. And then some doctor will start talking about how important it is they get some nutrition.

You’ll be told that your loved one cannot stay off the oxygen support long enough to get nutrition, and then you’ll be told they are not tolerating the feeding tube. Then they will tell you they want to intubate your loved one because feeding them is easier that way. You’ll learn that no one comes off the ventilators. Protocolism is killing people. Protocolists are killing people.

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“We have taken this step and proceed from the fact that it will no longer be possible to somehow brush it [the security proposals] off.”

‘The Moment Of Truth Has Come’ For Russia & NATO – Moscow (RT)

Moscow’s new proposals for security guarantees are aimed at averting a potential military conflict with NATO, Russia’s deputy FM has said, noting that the country’s relations with the US-led bloc have reached a tipping point. The comprehensive deal, proposed to the US and NATO this week, serves the best interests of all the parties involved, and is designed to avoid a potential military showdown through political dialogue, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Grushko said Saturday. “[By proposing the deal] we make it clear that we are ready to talk about how to transform a military or a military-technical scenario into a political process that will strengthen the military security of all states within The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), Euro-Atlantic area and Eurasia,” Grushko told the Soloviev LIVE YouTube channel.

Should the West ignore Moscow’s attempt to rein in the tensions, Russia will resort to “creating counter-threats” of its own, the minister said, referring to potential deployment of new weapons systems within Russia’s borders. “It will [then] be too late then to ask us why we’ve made such decisions, why we’ve deployed such systems,” he said. Arguing that increasingly strained Russia-NATO relations have reached “the moment of truth,” which calls for a “fundamental decision,” the minister stressed that the ball is now in NATO’s court. “We have taken this step and proceed from the fact that it will no longer be possible to somehow brush it [the security proposals] off.”

The idea of a comprehensive, legally binding security agreement with the West was first floated by Russian President Vladimir Putin. The two separate draft documents, presented by Russia to Brussels and Washington on Wednesday, laid out the main principles of peaceful coexistence of Russia and the US-led military bloc in Europe, Moscow said. Unveiling the proposals, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov explained that Russia insists on written guarantees since the ties with the West currently suffer from “an almost total lack of mutual trust.” Ryabkov pointed out that many verbal promises, given by Western politicians to Russia back in 1990, including NATO’s pledge to not expand eastwards, have been subsequently broken.

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“..property, will be seized and people’s ability to purchase enough food not to starve, will depend upon them holding an up-to-date vaccine passport..”

Israeli-led Central Bank Simulation Preparation For Great Reset – Yeadon (DT.nz)

A banking crisis simulation conducted recently in Israel is preparation for the ‘Great Reset’, according to Mike Yeadon, former chief scientific officer for Pfizer and pandemic critic. The 10-day simulation concluded on 9 December in Jerusalem, and invovled central bank representatives from Israel, USA, UK, UAE, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Thailand, as well as representatives from the IMF, World Bank, and Bank of International Settlements. The simulation was based on a catastrophic cyber attack scenario, in which the entire world financial system was brought down, leading to a ‘run on banks’ requiring emergency liquidity in multiple currencies, paralysing the global financial system. Targets would included foreign exchange markets, bond markets, loss of data integrity and compromised transactions between exporters and importers.

The solution to such an event would require international cooperation and coordination of monetary policy. Measures would include a coordinated bank holiday, debt repayment grace periods, SWAP/REPO agreements and coordinated delinking from major currencies. Dr. Mike Yeadon believes the simulation is a front for a planned financial reset, which he expects to take place sometime after March 2022.= The financial reset itself is the actual manifestation of what the head of the World Economic Forum (WEF) Claus Schwab has called The Great Reset, where ‘You will own nothing and be happy’. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is a ‘graduate’ of the WEF. Yeadon believes electronic representation of individual currencies will end, and that it is entirely possible people will lose everything they think they own by way of financial assets.


Yeadon believes other real assets, mostly property, will be seized and people’s ability to purchase enough food not to starve, will depend upon them holding an up-to-date vaccine passport. According to Yeadon, that’s the ultimate tool of coercion: VaxPass or starvation. According to a post on Yeadon’s Telegram channel: • Banks will close for several days, and online banking will be offline. People won’t be able see their balances. • ‘Debt holidays’ will be implemented, including the cancellation of debts, noting that one person’s debt is another person’s savings. • ‘Coordinated delinking from major currencies’ will see the end of balances in USD, GBP and EUR. Individual currencies will presumably be rebased and ‘severely haircut’ into Central Bank Digital Currencies.

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Yeah, yeah, demise of the dollar and all that. What gives this guy’s ignorance away is this quote: “China has invested trillions of *dollars* into its Belt and Road Initiative..”

China & Russia Are Ready To End US Dominance Of Global Finance (Diesen)

De-dollarisation, the reduced reliance on the US dollar as a reserve and transaction currency, is immensely challenging as the dominant role of the US dollar has defined the international financial system for more than 75 years. The dollar has continued its strong position for three main reasons: the huge size of the US economy, the preservation of the dollar’s value by keeping inflation low, and the open and liquid financial market. As the US economy is in relative decline, inflation is out of control, and its financial markets are used as a weapon – the foundations for the enduring role of the dollar are quickly coming to an end.

A financial partnership between China and Russia, the world’s largest energy importer and the world’s largest energy exporter, is an indispensable instrument for dethroning the petrodollar. In 2015, approximately 90% of trade between Russia and China was settled in dollars, and by 2020, dollar-denominated trade between the two Eurasian giants had almost reduced by half, with only 46% of trade in dollars. Russia has also been leading the way in cutting the share of US dollars in its foreign reserves. The mechanisms for de-dollarizing China-Russia trade are also used to end the use of the greenback with third parties – with advancements being seen in places such as Latin America, Turkey, Iran, India, etc. The US has been pumping out dollars to the entire world for decades, and at some point, the tide will change as the sea of dollars return home with increasingly diminished value.

[..] China and Russia have also developed their own rating agencies and replaced the dominant position of Visa and Mastercard in their respective countries. This new financial architecture is complemented with an energy partnership and a technological partnership as neither China nor Russia wants to be reliant on American high-tech industries as they move into the fourth industrial revolution. Furthermore, China and Russia seek to avoid US-dominated transportation corridors. China has invested trillions of dollars into its Belt and Road Initiative for new land- and sea corridors, while Russia has advanced a similar but more modest program that includes developing the Arctic as a maritime route in partnership with China.

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    Berthe Morisot The old track to Auvers 1863   • My Tweets With The Chairman Of The Sage Covid Modelling Committee (Nelson) • New York, UK: Covid
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 20 2021]

    #95723
    oxymoron
    Participant

    PhoenixVoice – you did very well. The world needs non-compliance so thank you so much – it is icky to go through that shit – it is counter balanced in my life with a very large anti-force/demand/mandate group on Signal (app) that meet in the real world and party and help each other.

    The weird thing is for most of my life and for the lives of people older than me we have been aware of, or wanting some counter culture movement to be localised and lasting. However none of these intentional communities really ever seem to take hold (there may be some exceptions like the Kibbutz scene etc. ?)

    They form organically out of environmental pressure, not through idealism or intention.

    We have the conditions now and they are forming and solidifying.
    Counter narrative becomes solid and cohesive and self-supporting. Involves emotional support, financial, communication fair share etc. All are welcome and accepted because the shared external stress is a binding agent. Much more tolerance is incorporated but dangers of identification and ‘specialness’ exist though not yet manifest.

    We are linking more than ever. David Holmgren has created models (others too) that are now being real-world tested in unique and diverse ways. I am thinking very much about privacy in the crypto world and want to learn about Pirate coind and Dark.fi etc.

    Twists and turns.
    Bosco really good content yesterday also many others too. Herr Docktorrr slayed it with some funny shit and tdk is in a flow state.

    #95724
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Gee that NYC bills to pass list looks like a license to kill (the city).

    NO WAY i would stay there if other states offered better freedoms

    #95725
    Dr. D
    Participant

    That’s the green, sustainable energy: old coppice trees.

    New Bills: That’s really bad. Even for NY, which is saying something.

    “ My Tweets with the Chairman of the Sage Covid Modelling Committee (Nelson) “

    The most perfect example of experts helping imaginable. I mean it, they’re not bad by intent. But they’re the complete idiot fools and tools of even the most simpleminded psychopaths. They’re like peanut butter and jelly, each needs the other to survive and mass murder widely.

    “The First 785 SARS-CoV-2 Omicron Variant Cases in Denmark (ES)”

    Or as we call it: the airborne Covid vaccine.

    “…property, will be seized and people’s ability to purchase enough food not to starve, will depend upon them holding an up-to-date vaccine passport..”

    • Israeli-led Central Bank Simulation Preparation For Great Reset – Yeadon (DT.nz)”

    So as we’ve been saying, it’s just straight Soviet Socialism. P.S. exactly like we all told you about the EU and Euro. Like we told you about oversize Federal governments, the DNC, and “Democratic” Socialists. That they would kill everyone and laugh, over maskless 5-star dinners with their friends at the French Laundry. Suit yourself.

    China & Russia Are Ready to End US Dominance of Global Finance (Diesen)”

    Really? That seems premature. China is collapsing with internal problems and has no currency nor hope of one. Not Yuan, not gold, not Bitcoin, not Antcoin. Russia is the size of Italy or California, with all the weather and strength of North Dakota, despite the U.S. Media fever-dreaming they are the alien dreadnaught invasion force of Independence Day. Combined, they have the Superpowers of a collapsing state AND a minor state.

    DeSantis. He must be crazy! It’s not like YET ANOTHER college leader, from Harvard, took tens of thousands from China to blackmail and bribe his college direction and policy. Don’t be silly. When someone gives you money, clearly they do it because they do NOT want anything in return. Look at China and Hunter Biden’s new million-dollar art career. Or the NBA. Free to do and say as they please.

    Ireland: Vaccines work. That’s why, because they don’t work, you have to keep getting them again, because they work. Now go get one, although you already got one, because they do/do not work.

    Congress, ever-proving the hypothetical, another flavor of logical fallacy. As in fallacious, wrong, stupid, a lie. Which they specialize in. “Well, the patient died, but imagine how much worse it would have been without the vaccine!” —The Papers, last month. Don’t make me go look up the article, we posted it already.

    You know, there are worse things to fear than death — the meta-conclusion of that headline — but unfortunately living under a fascist police state run by visitors to Epstein’s kidnapping, pedophile island is one of them.

    #95726
    V. Arnold
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    Berthe Morisot The old track to Auvers 1863

    I’m not familiar with the artist, but wow, she masterfly plays the light with a deft touch…IMO…

    #95727
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    I used to wonder what it felt like for the sane to suddenly find that the deranged have utter control of their country…

    What it was like when psychopaths unleash wanton death & destruction, when wise & honorable leadership could easily maintain peace & prosperity.

    Now I know 😐

    #95730
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Regarding media:

    cdf

    #95731
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “You’ll be told that your loved one cannot stay off the oxygen support long enough to get nutrition, and then you’ll be told they are not tolerating the feeding tube. Then they will tell you they want to intubate your loved one because feeding them is easier that way. You’ll learn that no one comes off the ventilators. Protocolism is killing people. Protocolists are killing people.”

    “The trouble with normal is… it just gets worse.” Bruce Cockburn

    #95737
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    The old track to Auvers
    The entire painting is lovely; The cat is a delight. Every morning there are kitties vying for my attention. The first being my 18 year old cat. I’d have pet her for more than 5 minutes this morning, but there were things to be done, and one can only stay so long in bed with a cat sitting on one’s chest. Even if she is purring very loudly.

    #95738
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Murder is evil. Suffering murderers to operate freely is stupid. The evil are currently murdering the stupid. Neither of those conditions is completely avoidable, and restoring balance between them is going to cost a lot of blood.

    #95739
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    From REFI NITIV this a.m.:

    • BioNTech SE & Pfizer Inc: The European Commission said on Sunday it had reached an agreement with BioNTech and Pfizer for an extra 20 million doses of their COVID-19 vaccine to be delivered to EU member states in the first quarter of 2022. These doses come on top of an already scheduled 195 million doses from BioNTech- Pfizer, bringing the total number of deliveries in the first quarter to 215 million, a commission statement said. The commission and member states have also exercised an option to order more than 200 million BioNTech-Pfizer COVID-19 doses adapted for the Omicron variant and expect delivery from the second quarter of 2022.

    • Moderna Inc: The company said that a booster dose of its COVID-19 vaccine appeared to be protective against the fast-spreading Omicron variant in laboratory testing and that the current version of the vaccine would continue to be Moderna’s “first line of defense against Omicron.” The vaccine maker said the decision to focus on the current vaccine, mRNA-1273, was driven in part by how quickly the recently discovered variant is spreading. The company still plans to develop a vaccine specifically to protect against Omicron, which it hopes to advance into clinical trials early next year. “What we have available right now is 1273,” Dr. Paul Burton, Moderna’s Chief Medical Officer, said in an interview. “It’s highly effective, and it’s extremely safe. I think it will protect people through the coming holiday period and through these winter months, when we’re going to see the most severe pressure of Omicron.”

    • Novavax Inc: The company is expected to start delivering its COVID-19 vaccines to the European Union in the first quarter of 2022, an EU source said, as experts for the region’s drug regulator met to decide whether to approve the shot. The EU Commission had no immediate comment and the U.S. biotech company was not immediately available for comment. The EU source declined to be identified because they were not authorised to speak to the media. If approved, the two-dose vaccine, branded Nuvaxovid, would be the fifth coronavirus shot to be brought on to the EU market and arrives as the Omicron coronavirus variant spreads.

    … so you are informed!

    F.S.

    #95741
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Omicron is such a problem that we barely notice when it’s here. A county in Florida (which includes Orlando) reported that nearly 100% of Covid strains in wastewater samples are omicron, while “those who are hospitalized are being primarily infected by the delta variant.”

    A sampling this week showed that omicron represented almost 100% of the strains in the samples from the wastewater facilities, Orange County Utilities spokesperson Sarah Lux said in an email.

    It’s a different story when it comes to people seeking treatment for COVID-19, officials said.

    “Those who are hospitalized are being primarily infected by the delta variant”

    Omicron is dominant in wastewater samples in Florida county
    https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-travel-lifestyle-florida-e7907660a6d3ce352990ed151ba1a225

    #95742
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    An updated report from South Africa gives an earlier date for the first detection of Omicron:
    October 24

    Variant of Concern Omicron
    • South Africa:
    Earliest detection ca: 24 October, Eastern Cape
    • Dominated November sequencing data at 81% of genomes (n=881/1082)
    • Detected in all provinces
    • Global:
    • Detected in 88 countries worldwide
    • Split into three lineages based on different mutational profiles: BA.1 (21K), BA.2 (21L), BA.3

    Network for Genomic Surveillance in South Africa (NGS-SA)
    SARS-CoV-2 Sequencing Update 17 December 2021

    https://www.nicd.ac.za/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Update-of-SA-sequencing-data-from-GISAID-17-Dec-21_Final.pdf

    #95743
    Kassandra
    Participant

    phoenixvoice, how have you found such people? Sorry to hear about your church!

    Last year I moved to a smaller town (a blue dot in a red state). There’s a big, powerful, nationally known church here that gets very negative national attention from sites the likes of Vox. I struggle with it, because most of my 50 years on this earth I’ve been a radical lefty, but “my people” started going totally insane about 10 years ago. But it’s still hard for me to embrace the hard right. This church has protested the mandates of all sorts since the very beginning, openly going mask-less except for the short period where it was strongly enforced and they were threatened to be shut down…but they still held protest gatherings in parks, singing psalms. The city arrested some of them, but ultimately dropped charges. It’s becoming more and more difficult for me to NOT join them.

    The wild part for me is we have a literal control group right here in our town that is about 50/50 liberal/conservative, 50/50 vaccinated/unvaccinated, 50/50 mask wearing/not, 50/50 following “the Science”/Living their lives. We have two large State Universities here, 7 miles apart and those on the blue state side come to the red state side all the time. One has made news for their strict vaccine mandates, ones has no mandates. You get the picture.

    Yet, no difference in who gets it, who gets sick from it. Less than 100 people in this area of more than 35k people have died from (with?) covid since the beginning.

    And I wonder. What are we all so scared of? Am I the crazy one asking, where’s the pandemic?

    #95745
    absolute galore
    Participant

    I too applaud phoenixvoice for expressing resistance to this mass psychosis. Chapeau. (And thank you again for your support regarding offspring.)

    Even when we know we are in the right, it can be difficult to stand alone against everyone surrounding us. Our wack job interim governor here in NYS instituted the mask mandate a week ago. I was unaware until I went into a friend’s candy shop that day. Later, when my son and I went to the grocery store further up Main Street, they had a sign proclaiming the mandate was in effect. Neither of us had masks. In the past, he had been reluctant to join me in being “disobedient.” This time he did not show any hesitation, and we were the only two unmasked shoppers.

    I now make a nod to the mask thing with my bandana tied loosely, worn a la “Joe Biden” style, with it drooping well under my nose. Because everybody knows the virus is not in your nasal passages, preferring instead to nestle between your choppers–Science! Anyway, the mask–thinking of embroidering a more classic version with “Heil Hochul!” But that might be too needlessly provocative since people would read more into it than simply an example of slavish obedience gone (very very) bad.

    It was definitely upsetting when my friend declared his bar restaurant vaccine only. And my kid had to go see the new Spiderman movie in town with his mother, because they now require proof of vaccine and photo ID. Come to think of it, that might be a hidden benefit, although he claims the movie was excellent.

    Yesterday a close friend texted that he was positive and feeling mild symptoms. He got his third jab over a month ago. His wife, also triple jabbed, is showing symptoms. His social network is reporting many similar stories. Later that day, another good friend, one of the few I’m aware of who is au naturel, called to ask the proper dosage of IVm. I had given him a supply months ago, and he was feeling achey legs with general fatigue and headache and wanting to crawl into bed.

    Today he feels much much better, and is on his second day of the five day regimen. At this point in the game, whether that is related to the medication or not, who cares. At least it gives him the feeling that he is doing something.

    This all reminds me of the Runny Nose Pandemic of ’87. Remember that? Neither do I. Who would?

    Shortly after Trump came down with his case last year, he said something along the lines of Don’t live in fear of this thing. Live your life.

    When a guy like Trump is dispensing the most sage and sane advice of virtually any of our leaders, that is all you need to know about the current state of affairs.

    #95746
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    • ‘The Moment Of Truth Has Come’ For Russia & NATO – Moscow (RT)
    —————————————

    Hopefully, … hopefully this is just a start of serious negotiations. Following is a good initial write up on this:

    “To me that sounds like: ‘Let’s stop moving forces around and lets sit down and talk.’ That is fine with me. Do it.”

    Russia Details Security Demands To U.S. And NATO
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/12/russia-details-secruity-demands-to-us-and-nato.html

    It’s all about The International Communityd and about “The International Community”. Yes!

    https://dxczjjuegupb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/The-International-Community-768×923.jpg

    … fwiw,

    F.S.

    #95747
    zerosum
    Participant

    ( Modeling )

    Pick/chose your battle ground that will enhance your chances of winning.

    1. Omicron vs Delta variance
    2. Unvaccinated vs vaccinated
    3. Herd Immunity vs vaccines
    4. snob vs sheep
    5. free vs dead
    6. truth vs lies
    7. miserable vs comfortable
    8. chose vs accept
    9. battle ground vs peace
    ————

    Top five symptoms for omicron infection (compare delta and omicron)

    1. runny nose,
    2. headache,
    3. fatigue (either mild or severe),
    4. sneezing,
    5. sore throat.

    Treatment

    Boost your Immune System
    vitamins 1,500 C and 5,000 D3, 25mg zinc, 250mg quercetin plus lecithin, every day,

    Ask yourself

    (does having a strong immune system count)
    ( does not being overweight count)
    (does not having high blood pressure count)
    (does not having cholesterol help)
    (does having the flue count)
    ( does taking IVM count)
    (does taking Hydroxychloroquine count)
    ( does taking an aspirin help)

    ———
    Comedy Club

    And after all that “mildness”, from Omicron, the CDC and Fauci think it’s still Halloween… (Message: keep increasing the # of your vaccines)

    ———-
    Cruise ships are still getting covid, with vaccine passports
    ———-
    Questions:
    1. Does the vaccines help the spread of Omicron
    2. Did the vaccines help to weaken the immune system
    3. Did the vaccine help delta to change into omicron
    4. Are vaccines required for Omicron
    —————-
    Repeat from Doc Robinson

    Update from Africa
    Read’m and weep

    https://www.gisaid.org/

    https://www.nicd.ac.za/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Update-of-SA-sequencing-data-from-GISAID-17-Dec-21_Final.pdf
    Network for Genomic Surveillance in South Africa (NGS-SA)

    #95749

    So – did they die OF Remdesivir, or WITH Remdesivir?
    Over at ClusterfuckNation, “sanspeur” makes the brilliant comment that delta, omicron is an anagram for MEDIA CONTROL.
    Cool.

    #95750
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Herr Fauci continues to grind down his falsies down ( … froth and all)!

    The protection offered from two-dose mRNA vaccines — like those produced by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna — is “quite good particularly against severe disease,” Fauci said Sunday.

    “But when you get to Omicron, the protection significantly goes down,” he said. “But the good news is when you boost someone, it goes right back up.”

    Omicron ‘is going to take over’ this winter, and Fauci says Americans should brace for a ‘tough few weeks to months’
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/19/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

    Aside: … at ~80 years of age, this phlunkin’ dump truck is pretty active, … I say!

    F.S.

    #95753
    DarkMatter
    Participant

    Speaking of masks I bought three masks from ViruShield
    They are just a small plastic shield that covers your nose and mouth and sticks to the bridge of your nose. They are ridiculously expensive but you can use them forever by replacing the sticky bit with double sided tape. They are good to wear with glasses and don’t fog them up and the glasses help keep them on. They are totally ineffective as a mask, so about as good as what most masks people wear but don’t inhibit breathing at all. I have worn one to stores and even in the airport and nobody in ‘authority’ has said anything (except they won’t let you on a plane with one). I get a lot of surprised looks and smiles and on occasion someone will ask me where to get one. They are not as non-compliant as no mask but make the statement “OK, if you insist I’ll wear a stupid, worthless mask, so there.”

    #95755
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #95756
    zerosum
    Participant

    Pick a battle ground
    “OK, if you insist I’ll wear a stupid, worthless mask, so there.”
    Hehehehe

    Mine is a home made. Its suppose to help with being able to blend with my hunting outfit.

    #95767
    zerosum
    Participant

    Political way of saying vaccines didn’t work …… Breakthrough case

    #95768
    zerosum
    Participant

    Vaccines didn’t work …… Your Immune system worked

    #95769
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Kassandra – you are in a fortunate position I think. We swing HARD lefty here in my town and to quote Dr D – #toomuchhelping is suffocating.
    I am also starting to lean right after a life of voting Greens etc. but I don’t know what any terms mean any more.

    I do know that everytime I happen to see regular news I invariably find myself chuckling at jokes that others don’t recognize.
    For example just watching a BBC reporter sitting atop a hill on his own in the open air wearing a mask and talking about how mild Omicron was and I found myself grinning from ear to ear so I guess clown world has it’s moments

    #95771
    zerosum
    Participant

    Super immune …..
    3 shots ….then get the virus …..now you are super immune
    New twist on the propaganda (Why you need 3 shots)

    #95777
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    A judge ruled that Covid vaxx mandates can’t be imposed by California school districts, it’s up to the state legislature.

    ICAN-Funded Lawsuit Strikes Down COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate for San Diego Schools!
    https://www.icandecide.org/ican_press/ican-funded-lawsuit-strikes-down-covid-19-vaccine-mandate-for-san-diego-schools/

    #95778
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    3 shots ….then get the virus …..now you are super immune
    New twist on the propaganda (Why you need 3 shots)

    The Sane vs. Mass formation psychosis:

    Wonder if that guy survived until 1945…

    #95783
    those darned kids
    Participant

    i doubt that guy survived until 12:45..

    #95795
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Kassandra:

    I struggle with it, because most of my 50 years on this earth I’ve been a radical lefty, but “my people” started going totally insane about 10 years ago. But it’s still hard for me to embrace the hard right ~ It’s becoming more and more difficult for me to NOT join them.

    Both the “totally insane lefties” + the “hard right” are two sides of the same coin ~ Mass psychotic formation that lusts to use powers of the Empire to achieve non-American ideological fantasies ~ Both sides are WRONG, willing to destroy any & all that they view as enemies.

    Even though many are awakening from their respective spiritual/mental dream states, they still don’t realize that being above all an AMERICAN that honors the Natural Rights of ALL humans, first & foremost, is the correct course…

    So many are just like children fighting over popularity, toys & candy, easily misled/used by sociopath pied pipers 😐

    Then there are the lunatic fringe cynics that decry, hate & besmirch the AMERICAN experiment (usually those that deep down hate themselves & everyone else), having not one better system than what John Locke + the Sons of Liberty espoused (usually they crave government akin to anarchism), only focusing on the failures of history, whose events themselves were in violation of Natural Law.

    So, here We are backed into a corner with our lives in our hands, left wondering if peace,love & charity will ever be restored…

    If being an American was still our country’s overarching unifying culture, we might have stood a chance.

    #95798
    zerosum
    Participant

    What do you believe
    I believe that the hardest number to fake are the number of patients in the hospital.
    Phewee on Testing numbers ….. positive … negative ….. DNA test for Omicron ….. ICU …..
    Reporting of Home testing kit numbbers

    #95802
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #95804
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @Voracious Poet

    Then there are the lunatic fringe cynics that decry, hate & besmirch the AMERICAN experiment (usually those that deep down hate themselves & everyone else), having not one better system than what John Locke + the Sons of Liberty espoused (usually they crave government akin to anarchism), only focusing on the failures of history, whose events themselves were in violation of Natural Law.

    Are you seriously referring to the majority of people on this planet as “lunatic fringe” and people who “hate themselves and everyone else”? Looking at the actions of the US government over the last 70 years it appears as though they want everybody to hate them, even their own veterans.

    The US destiny has been obvious to most of us for decades: democracy has been corrupted because the people allowed certain individuals to become so wealthy and powerful that they decided they did not need everybody else and could just buy the government. The government allowed them to get their stuff made overseas, even helped subsidize it at one time, and soon the rich people started to question the value of their fellow citizens back home, especially as the average income reduces and the overseas market becomes more important than the home market: ask the likes of the NFL.

    Their contempt for the home market is further demonstrated by their refusal to maintain the integrity of the nation, opening the borders to allow anyone it, showing you that they consider you all equal: citizen and illegal alien.

    When individuals in the USA can own their own armies, when government does the bidding of corporations and oligarchs, and when most stuff is made overseas, then there is no “serving the people”.

    The US “experiment” worked for a while then failed, as it was destined to, but the time for protesting that failure was when the jobs were being moved to China – all part of the USA’s cold war victory – now it is way too late.

    By the way, it is not the system: empires come and go regardless of the system, the same as all living creatures, the reason being that the individuals that run the show are flawed and end up actively destroying their empire which they will no doubt miss once it’s gone. People are idiots.

    #95806
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    VP
    “ Both the “totally insane lefties” + the “hard right” are two sides of the same coin ~ Mass psychotic formation that lusts to use powers of the Empire to achieve non-American ideological fantasies ~ Both sides are WRONG, willing to destroy any & all that they view as enemies.

    Even though many are awakening from their respective spiritual/mental dream states, they still don’t realize that being above all an AMERICAN that honors the Natural Rights of ALL humans, first & foremost, is the correct course…

    I really like this perspective. :). Quite sane and practical.

    #95808
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Are you seriously referring to the majority of people on this planet as “lunatic fringe” and people who “hate themselves and everyone else”? Looking at the actions of the US government over the last 70 years it appears as though they want everybody to hate them, even their own veterans.

    I was only speaking about Americans. I lack the scope & desire to even begin the task of adding up the equation outside of America.

    But I do know that U$ Empire Inc. has done terrible things in Our name, that the sane among us loathe THEIR actions, just like the nations that the Empire has trampled surely do.

    The U$ Empire Inc. is not = The American Experiment (Democratic Republic under Natural Law), which ceased to legally exist MAR 1933 (After suffering a death of a thousand cuts).

    Moreover, “open borders” is a multi-faceted tool of the U$ Empire, along with outsourcing America’s tech + manufacturing + several other acts that would have been treasonous just 50 years ago.

    I saw most of it happen in real time, as a former engineer with MANY contacts in fabrication of precision systems…

    Wish I could disagree with your contention that “People are idiots”, but that’s “real reality” unfortunately, though many confuse pride, vanity & ego as mark of good mental faculties…

    The entire cradle-to-grave social system, which feeds the U$ Empire, relies on the populace to be dumbed-down-to-succumb ~ For some, they never really had a choice.

    Then again, I’ve known MANY that are/were happy with their arranged folly, willingly complicit as the Empire will provide the goodies…

    Some will never even realize that they were victims of WWIII ~ When those they trusted surreptitiously betrayed them, ordered assaults on their well-being, even going so far as depriving them of medical aid, ordering lethal protocols for critical care, suspending all scientific norms to allow untested, dangerous pharmaceuticals to be injected into the bodies of their families, countrymen & children. All while funding the war with the “believers'” own national treasuries.

    The degeneracy of the Roman Empire has got nothing on U$ Empire Inc. ~ NOTHING.

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