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  • #83820
    Germ
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    Japan has a massive RSV epidemic right now, with 99% mask compliance.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/11/21-1565_article

    #83821
    Germ
    Participant

    #83822
    Germ
    Participant

    Holy fuck – what the hell are we doing to kids?
    Abuse.

    #83823
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Most days I do an exercise program on my virtual reality headset, which is set to music. Today, during one of the songs, the fitness trainer said the following:

    “The rhythm of this song feels like freedom…. Just let yourself go to the beat.”

    Freedom = Submission

    Reminded me of the oft-written words of Dr. D & George Orwell.

    #83824
    Germ
    Participant

    O’Bomber turned 60.
    Me too!

    “At least 74 people on Martha’s Vineyard have tested positive for Covid-19 since Barack Obama’s maskless 60th birthday bash – the most cases on the island since April”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9891873/63-people-Marthas-Vineyard-tested-positive-Covid-Obamas-60th-birthday-bash.html

    #83825
    Germ
    Participant

    ‘Didn’t get third vaccine yet? You could die’
    Bennett calls on Israelis over 50 to get third dose of COVID vaccine, warns those who don’t get it they are in ‘mortal danger’.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/311703

    Gotta laugh.
    That’s all we can do, laugh, laugh, laugh !!

    #83826
    Germ
    Participant

    Stay sane!

    #83827
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Interesting — just ran into the problem of a different total of comments appearing on different devices. I usually use my iPad — which is currently charging. Laptop shows 86 comments spanning 3 pages. Android smartphone shows 77 comments spanning 2 pages. I’m using up-to-date Firefox browser on both devices. Was on laptop — I type faster on a full keyboard — switched to android phone to listen to a video since my laptop speakers are mostly non-functional, and noticed the discrepancy.

    Odd.

    #83828
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @phoenix voice
    “Syncytin family of proteins…”

    Christiane Northrup covered this topic weeks and months ago, she was an OB-GYN

    Sorry I don’t have the exact link but here is a bunch of her stuff uncensored on Brighteon

    https://www.brighteon.com/new-search?query=Dr%20Christiane%20Northrup&page=1&uploaded=all

    #83829
    those darned kids
    Participant

    phoenix: i’ll show you how it’s done.

    this will be 83827. i’ll see you back at 83831.

    [unless someone interrupts]

    #83830
    those darned kids
    Participant

    oops, 83829.. see you at 83833..

    #83834
    those darned kids
    Participant

    i’m actually pretty good at math…

    #83835
    Oroboros
    Participant

    There’s been a delay between mobile website version and the standard laptop version for awhile now. I think the mobile website has a longer refresh/cache, kind of like text messages coming in at slightly different rates. I sometimes have to wait awhile until all versions sync.

    #83836
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Dr Christiane Northrup mentions Syncytin:

    https://www.brighteon.com/857f567c-1c8e-40b0-9f30-3229fd205197

    Dr Christiane Northrup on shedding

    “…OK, but think about the brainwashing that led to that.

    You have to give your kid 72 different shots to protect my immuno-compromised kid!

    Let me give you the science:

    You go into a leukemia ward in a children’s hospital, or a transplant ward anywhere, and there have been, for most of my career, signs on the door:

    “If you’ve recently had a vaccination you cannot come in for seven weeks”

    Sign on hospital ward doors

    …Because we know that a chickenpox vaccine, a polio vaccine etc sheds viruses. We know that.

    Now this is not that kind of a shot. This is mNRA that’s actually programming your body to produce the spike protein that is the thing that injures people, and cross-reacts with 28 different human tissue, including Syncytin, a protein that is made, by the way, from ancient DNA viruses that is absolutely essential to fuse cells to create the placenta.

    Syncytiotrophoblast is a specific type of tissue in the placenta.

    So it looks like these synthetic spike proteins can cross-react and cause auto-immunity that causes the person to…

    Reject their own placenta!”

    #83837
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    When i logged in on android, 16 more comments appeared. Could be permissions related.

    #83838
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    Lockdowns, Masks and The Illusion of Government Control Over Covid – interesting read, I’m about half finished, but it illuminated a couple dark corners in my brain:

    1) As I have perceived for most of my adult life, and have recently had reinforced by Denninger et al, I don’t think ‘germ warfare’ is all it’s cracked up to be. The standard problem of a virus’ race against time to jump before the host dies is a limiting factor. Regardless of the initial apparent lethality of a virus, it will only be able to kill in clusters…only really a problem if you have extreme population density, eh? But even with density, the signal gets across and folks self-quarantine. Same as it ever was.

    2) Related to my #1, and the signalling, I also think that our immunity to these is similar to our pattern recognition and generalization in perceptive senses. It’s ‘good enough’ that it sends a signal to us that we have to grab a bagel and hunker down for a bit, and sends a signal to others that they should probably avoid us for a while. We’re not supposed to live in fear of Invisible Death. If our ancestors had this paranoia, they wouldn’t be our ancestors.

    ———SEPARATORSARENEAT———————

    Yamandu Costa – No Rancho Fundo

    #83839
    Germ
    Participant

    Trust The Science!

    Join James for this week’s edition of The Corbett Report podcast as he explores the transparent lies of the “settled science” crowd and how those lies will increasingly be used to run our lives in the new biosecurity state.

    Episode 406 – Trust The Science!

    #83840
    deflationista
    Participant

    @phoenixvoice

    I posted it, because frankly, I have seen almost every line of her pathetic ramblings echoed in some way, right here, in the hallowed halls of TAE. And I posted it, because it is relevant to current events. There are a thousand more just like this one. Some more eloquent. Some more violent. Some threatening doctors with future retaliation for their testimonies. And some warning school board or city council members that ‘there will be blood’ if any mitigation efforts are enacted to protect the public or children.

    Dr. D reminds us every day about the fallacy of accepting expert opinion or authority. That they have lied and lied and lied, and we should never listen to them again. Ok. I can get on board with that. And I agree for the most part. But then we seem to be encouraged to accept some other “authority”, some other sets of data, from more ‘reliable’, less mainstream, sources. Ok. I can also go along with that as well. But, really, that is what brought me to even pipe up in the first place. I saw the FLCCC propaganda being passed around as an example, I suppose, of this ‘other authoritative data’ that we should trust. And, apparently, we should trust it simply because it wasn’t from some corrupt, lying mainstream source. But their data stinks. I pointed it out in various ways. If I am not supposed to trust what the proven liars are telling me, why should I just blindly accept what the alternative sources are telling me if they also are lying? Does anyone even consider that the alternative narrative that you gravitate towards could also be just as deeply flawed? Which brings us back to the question that DarkMatter asked. How do you know who to trust? It is the million dollar question, I suppose. It is always the “others” who have some agenda. Money, fame, reputation, clicks, book sales, product sales, etc.

    According to some of the paranoids, I have some hidden agenda. One piddly ass person comes in, posts some stuff you don’t normally read here, and viola—- “troll alert”, “CIA alert”, “NSA found us”, “it was only a matter of time”. Yesterday, upstateNYer simply told me to “eff off”, just for posting, and Mister Roboto can’t even use my real handle anymore, childishly referring to me like Harry Potter refers to Voldemort- “he who shall not be named”. What the fuck is going on here? I ranted. I stepped on some of your toes. I said some things about Trump. I said some things about liberals. I made fun of anti-vaxxers I know personally. I posted some tweets and articles that might provide just a tiny bit of relief to the prevailing narrative here. Big fucking deal! Time to put your big girl panties on. I mean, Raul won’t read an article because of the title and my choice of words when framing the description of it. And now he is telling people to ignore me? I ranted about this phenomenon too, because it is fucking stupid. And this is also what is happening in the real world. Not just in here. It seems really fucking weird to see the reactions here. The quick ad hominem. Yeah, I’m guilty too. I say some asshole things. But like I said in my rant (reminder: IT WAS A FUCKING RANT)- sometimes you just get sick of seeing obviously shitty material being floated as hard fact, and you decide to say something. Guilty as charged. Raul has posted a lot of FLCCC propaganda here. Do any of you even question some of the links that are posted here in this comment section? America’s Frontline Doctors for fuck’s sake??? Somehow, though, it’s myyyy posts that are the problem. I have posted nothing but tweets of people thinking the same things. Like Mish. or Yuri Deigin. Some counter narrative articles. I’m not a big fan of the mainstream either. I posted that Fuller article and I appreciated Dr. D’s breakdown of it. I get it. You can break it down and pick it apart. I didn’t post it as some iron clad piece of journalism to change minds. I posted it because it was fair and thoughtful. Two things that seem to be offensive to people here. I get your analysis and pretty much agree with your points. But I also understand the greater thrust of Fuller’s struggle to confront the Bret Weinstein/FLCCC narrative, so I appreciated his take on it, just as much as I appreciated Yuri Deigin’s less diplomatic analysis of the same situation.

    The point is, is that some of you here are real quick to make weird conspiratorial connections to anything out of the ordinary. It is on display for all to see. It’s not my intention to point that out all the time, but if you think it is- have at it. I don’t even give a shit if any of you change your minds. That is your choice. Because, you’re all about freedom of choice at the moment. You should know that while your narrative may make a lot of sense, there is always room to make holes in it. And it should be you looking to do that. Try to prove yourself wrong. Not me. Don’t just be quick to blame some shithead who has more time than you. Time they have been granted because their dying mom can’t stay awake during the day, which allows them to post some articles or rants. Someone posted something about Sagan’s Baloney Detection Kit. Maybe some of you should read that. And when you do, don’t quickly look to say “that’s exactly what “THEY” do.” Instead, say “do I do that?”. Sagan knew that you should always try to prove your own theory wrong. Otherwise, I don’t know what the fucking point really is. Or maybe you want to trick yourself? Maybe get back to that Sagan tradition. Maybe in a global fucking pandemic, you need to be a bit more nimble in your thinking, and be less willing to believe your own bullshit. It doesn’t mean the mainstream is right. It doesn’t mean you are either. It may just mean that no one really knows what the fuck to do, and all of the typical predators descend to do their thing. Capitalism likes to encourage capitalizing on things. And that may simply be what we are seeing. From politicians to corporations. From vaxers to antivaxers. Everybody capitalizing. But does that somehow mean that the scientific community, with their data and research, is also trying to capitalize? I don’t think so. And I think we can be smart enough to know the difference. And on top of it, the political leaders and corporate CEOs are notorious for never letting anyone see them sweat. So they purposely try to exude confidence. They say shit confidently in an attempt to boost their likeability ratings and job approvals or to get social media clicks and to lay the groundwork for their next campaign. This confidence can lend to the conspiratorial narrative because most of the time they get shit wrong, especially when they try to use science as their source, because scientific understanding is always attempting to evolve, to know more. So if Sleepy Joe says the virus is losing the war in April, he is saying so because he is “following the science”. But science didn’t really know that the delta variant would spread so crazily at the time. So, as a result, Joe looks like an idiot by August. This can all be spun EITHER way into a narrative. A more traditional, political narrative is that Joe is demented, which he certainly appears to be at times, and he was wrong about declaring victory and he can’t be trusted and this fact will be broadcast into nightly news casts and lampoons for better ratings and leverage in the next election. And it could also be spun into a greater conspiratorial narrative that says Joe is simply part of the plan attempting to clamp down on civil liberties and install communism or socialism and his “virus victory speech” in April is proof that the powers that be are the one’s pulling his strings and they needed more power, so they saaaaay there is a new variant that justifies vaccine passports, lockdowns, mask mandates, even though there is no new variant. They say cases are rising, even though theyre not. They say kids are more vulnerable. They say even vaccinated people can still get it and spread it. They say we all need new boosters so they can make more money. It’s all just a way for them to install their plan though scaring the public. So the conspiratorial story goes…

    There are and have been so many dudes and dudettes out there spinning conspiratorial/coincidental/theoretical narratives based on historical evidence into a “well researched” narrative. Mainstream and not. I mean, look at the russia narrative/conspiracy. That was a mainstream concoction. In many ways just as silly or more than the counter narratives being spun about covid. I had a whole bunch of those “coincidence writers” at one time- bookmarked- I will try to dig up links. Loot at David Icke. Gary Allen. Hell, even Mike Ruppert. Some of it makes a shit load of sense. And following their “logic” can also make sense. And all the coincidences seem to align right in line with the next coincidence. But, at some point, you have to pull out the baloney detection kit. Aliens parked behind the moon? Lizard people hybrids creating a new world for alien races? Dr Fauci spent half a century studying viruses just so he could trick rednecks into wearing paper masks? It takes a lot of effort to follow the “logic” of all the varying threads. Some just don’t pass the sniff test right off. Some just get spun in real time. Like the covid one. And every action or inaction by government, corporations, banks, militaries, nations, media etc. can be plugged into the narrative no matter what action or direction is ultimately taken. It gets sewn into one long story that can be told alongside the “official” narrative like some weird spin on a “choose your own adventure” book. Two parallel universes, both using the other as validation for their own existence. A global pandemic should be a time where we pool resources and attempt to find some deeper value and connection. Maybe an opportunity for enemies to lay down arms and fight together against common foe. Just like they said we all came together in world war 1 and 2 and 911. But what it really does is just makes us more suspicious of the freedom grabbers. We cannot trust anything they do, because they fucked us so many times before. We “just know” that it was all an excuse for “them” to take away our liberties, our guns, our rights. That very well may be. Capitalists capitalize. We are so tits up, collectively, that it is no wonder people are willing to kill their kids because of a prevailing, twisted, and pervasive conspiratorial narrative. Yeah, that dude was fucking crazy, but it seems like the line is getting thinner and thinner. How far behind him is the gal from the video I posted? Being down and out and in debt to their ears, abused for decades by a predatory socio-economic system, leads people to whatever narratives can make it all make some sense. And sometimes the predators are there too, just waiting to capitalize on their fertile minds. Sometimes, maybe all times, these “comforting” stories we tell ourselves in our darkest of hours, might just be really fucking wrong. Maybe human societies, or any society, cannot move through the bottleneck without destroying themselves. That was Sagan’s biggest question and concern. Are we smart enough not to destroy ourselves? Are humans smarter than yeast? Maybe world population is just too fucking big, and like I ranted before, maybe this is their plan. The plandemic. Or maybe, we are just too fucking stupid to mitigate a very basic coronavirus, because we would rather use it as an opportunity to declare how free we are, because we are infinitely stupid, just like Voltaire said.

    #83841
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    yes, thomasj, “We’re not supposed to live in fear of Invisible Death.

    We somehow need to – must – extinguish this notion that healthy people are wandering around infecting dozens of others. Does it ever happen? Probably. Someone might have enough viral load to spread but never gets sick enough to notice. Although even if that occurred, their viral load would be lower and chance of spreading significantly reduced.

    *The Science* used asymptomatic spread propaganda to make us distrust and avoid literally everyone since it was impossible to tell who might make you sick. They then layered on the guilt, “if you get it, you’re going to kill grandma.” The result was mass quarantine of healthy people, a practice still carried on today, a full 18 months later.

    What’s funny is, we’ve all caught a cold at some point, right? We didn’t sniffle into the phone while whining to our best friend and say, “I must have got it from Bob at work. He has no symptoms and didn’t get a cold himself, but he was at the grocery store last week so ….”

    #83842
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    Maybe d’s problem lies in viewing sources of information as authorities, rather than just sources of information.

    #83843
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    thomasj, maybe that’s d’s problem? But personally? I resent being lumped in with pillow guy something, trumpers, something, election, something … and then a person who clearly has mental health issues, was following QAnon*=, and murdered children … and, I guess, everyone in the world that can be called “a crank.”

    Since I don’t see how those labels correspond to being worried about mass vaccination with an experimental substance, vaccine passports, getting fired for not accepting an experimental vaccine, vaccinating children with an experimental substance, etc., it’s not worth responding.

    Think I’ll go re-read Sagan’s Baloney Detection Kit that was linked yesterday. I’m sure there was a mention in there about the particular tool being used …

    (note – I still even don’t understand what QAnon is. And don’t care)

    #83845
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    @UNY, thanks, exactly, but it is ‘symptom’ I think. The trusted authority has obviously been telling people to do those things. As an example, I’ll post something I tried to post weeks ago (coincidentally in response to one of yours), got eaten by the robot, and I figured I’d not post something so personal when I was feeling a bit more emotional about it, in a Dr D mood maybe:

    @UNY: y’welcome! Gates is a hardcore monopolist, as in, I think that’s probably the kink in his cable. Damn shame he glommed onto ‘healthcare’ as his next jellybean.

    It is this undercurrent of self-reliance that must be destroyed. We must shun anyone who knows the old ways. Destroy monuments to the doers. Same playbook as Iraq. Pillage the museums and libraries? Stupid, obvious, and very tragic. Same with not collecting data (correctly or at all). If the data exists, it can be ‘used against <something>’. View knowledge as a weapon, and you’re now headed for a *thislinkdoesntwork*.

    Sorry, folks. I’m a bit sour this week. My mother, of all people, offered to bribe me to take the shot. All I can do is counter with a firm “No.” Any further discussion or explanation leads to utter heartbreak, either through severing the ties, or revealing to her what has actually happened. She’s a school psychologist, teacher, administrator, software engineer, airplane pilot, security guard, mother of 2 semi-failed sons. She and my father are the most healthy example of a life-long married couple I could imagine, and the reason I still have a marriage.

    All this, and she is now enthralled to the Idiot Box and scared it’s the germ-pocalypse. We’ve tried over the past 2 years to break the spell, no avail. Shut off the TV, folks. The Alpha Wave Beam is lethal.

    It was my own mother who taught me about Bernays, Milgram, Stanford, and a host of other non-physical atrocities perpetrated against innocents. She instructed my brother and I, while watching Wonder Woman (Linda Carter will always be WW! fight me), that even though the bad guys were obviously Nazis, it was wrong to make assumptions about people despite their ‘uniform’. She had a long foray as a near-libertarian (“Governments are only good for fire departments!”). The submission to authoritarian rule was never on the radar. I see Trump as the pick, gin up ‘the Indians’, then redirect them. Just f#(<ing breathtaking.

    This situation is a complex stew. People will do very weird things. I know I’ve suffered severe operational paralysis over the past 2 years that has been a problem for many around me (sorry!).

    ———–HEALINGMUSIC———————

    Chris Potter – Circuits

    NOTE: removed link to please the robot

    #83846
    Oroboros
    Participant

    [Bedpan] Biden “Relaxes” On Vacation While ‘Saigon Moment’ Looms In Afghanistan

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/biden-relaxes-vacation-saigon-moment-looms-afghanistan

    Two decades and $815.7 billion

    History doesn’t repeat, but it rhymes.

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/saigonhasfalllen.jpg?itok=uD89v3S_

    .

    #83847
    chooch
    Participant

    “Good conflict can be heated and stressful, but it goes somewhere. Questions get asked. We experience flashes of anger and frustration—alongside flashes of humor and curiosity. That is the kind of conflict that pushes us to be better people.

    Amanda Ripley

    “Imaginary evil is romantic and varied; real evil is gloomy, monotonous, barren, boring.  Imaginary good is boring; real good is always new, marvelous, intoxicating. 

    Evil when we are in its power is not felt as evil, but as a necessity, or even a duty.  As soon as men know that they can kill without fear of punishment or blame, they kill; or at least they encourage killers, with approving smiles.”

    Simone Weil

    TAE is intoxicating and we are all the better for it. Thanks Raul and all that share their info, thoughts and commentary.

    #83848
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Afghanistan was a great Live Training Exercise for 20 years where the MIC experimented with different techniques of fighting, none of which apparently worked all that well, but is sure generated obscene profits for the defense racket.

    https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/EU-military-exercise-rtr-img.jpg?scale=896&compress=80

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    #83849
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    @deflationista

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    And that’s all I have to say about that. Fallacious post using false equivalency does get kind of old.

    Now, back to the nap you brought on.

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    #83850
    those darned kids
    Participant

    let’s have a quick look at u.s. federal elections, a shambackle arrangement of chads, chuds, skroinks, and midnight deliveries that even the mighty rube goldberg couldn’t duplicate, even if supplied with the finest in psilocybin.

    2020: trump won. obvious. neither good nor good. it does not make a difference. same ham sandwich with stale bread and cheap mustard, the kind with lotsa tartrazine.

    2016: hahahahahaha, they were gonna fix it, but then thought, “why bother? who would vote for that?!” and got lazy. hahahahahahaha

    2012: obama won. people just don’t pay attention.

    2008: obama won. more bushlike? nope, give us hope. people are so naïve.

    2004: kerry won. more bush? nope, but that does not matter if you can die boldly in ohio.

    2000: the supreme court won.

    1996: the people of serbia lost. who ran against bill?

    1992: bush’s lips versus billie’s hips? tax and tricks versus sex and sax?

    1988: i’m getting nauseous as we are approaching the ronniezone.

    1984: great book.

    1980: the deal with iran was nasty, nasty stuff. and what did the iranians get in return? saddam and his rumsfeld gas.

    1976: jerry ford seemed so nice but never trust a u.s. president. jimmy carter founded al-qaeda. kinda. i woulda voted for jessie. did he run that year?

    1972: it’s funny. nixon was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to the left of obama*. and his health care plan was better. oh well.

    The total cost of CHIP would be just shy of $7 billion, where the federal government would pay $6 billion and state governments would pay $1 billion. Employers would pay $450 for each participating employee, while the average cost for insurance premiums would be $150. Tax rates would not rise, as Nixon was opposed to any comprehensive health plan that required a new federal tax. Overall, his goal was to reduce the burden of cost while simultaneously improving the quality of healthcare for all Americans.

    *domestically. internationally, both (and all¡¡¡) are murderers. i suppose they both might be domestically, too…

    #83851
    Oroboros
    Participant

    TheTaliban would like to have Kabul fall and surrender on Sept 11, 2021

    Just for a symbolic kick in the groin to the US military and political establishments.

    A sample of Zerohedge Snark:

    Biden: We need to invade Afganistan to get our people out of Afghanistan.

    Did you see those idiot Taliban soldiers in the video? No masks on… can you believe it? Don’t they care about the delta variant?!?!?!

    All that’s missing from Biden’s outfit is the red nose and floppy shoes…

    The only thing Biden ordered was more pudding. I doubt he even knows what or where Afghanistan is.

    I don’t understand why Biden is panicking. With a bit of patience and with the assistance of Dominion, I think he can win the next elections in Afghanistan

    What are we doing there? They can’t hate us for our freedom because we have none.

    retty sure China offered the Taliban a sliding bonus based on how bad they can embarass the Americans on the world stage.

    the list just goes on and on and on….

    #83852
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    300 years ago few people traveled further than 30 miles except for maybe a once in a lifetime religious pilgrimage. People from a town 60 miles away were treated both as visiting wonders and yet almost like apartheid subjects.

    300 years ago, international travel was dangerous, slow, and rare even with the New World slave/gold/silver trade running high.

    Now we think it unnatural, even wrong, that national borders not be porous, almost sieve-like, with international access happening within 24 hours from decision to arrival. We think that being denied access to international flight is somehow wrong because flight is our right. To be denied public access to any private institution is a cardinal sin because openness is good… except when it can’t keep out a certain fey strand of DNA called covid-19.

    How long before our kids think 30 miles’ travel is an adventure not a tiny lark to some touristicated place?

    Did anyone here think we couod continue as we have? Did they think that liberties would prevail even as life’s necessities unavail?

    Covid: this, too, shall pass.

    P.S. I understand the will to survive and all, but does anyone here really believe we have a right to burden the planet with 8 billion homo saps burning the power equivalent of a former duke’s spring planting in a day or a week? What is this “right to life” our species claims to have?

    I ask these questions not to parse moral issues but to examine the weird foundations on which our thoughts are mostly based per cultural conditioning. We try so hard to be a successful social species but find again and again that our complexity as individuals relative to, say, an ant, make it impossible for us to form sustainable, much less peaceful, large-population societies.

    We are based on reproduction: fucking We expand our population via a thing we called progress:moving up.

    Our culture is literally based on fucking up.

    #83853
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ deflationista
    #83840


    ” ….. no one really knows …..”

    I don’t know, but Maybe this rant should have been your first post.
    I don’t know, but had this rant been your introduction to this blog, maybe, your reception would have been different.

    (I don’t believe that my opinion will change anything on this blog.)

    #83854
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Sorry, folks. I’m a bit sour this week. My mother, of all people, offered to bribe me to take the shot. All I can do is counter with a firm “No.” Any further discussion or explanation leads to utter heartbreak, either through severing the ties, or revealing to her what has actually happened. She’s a school psychologist, teacher, administrator, software engineer, airplane pilot, security guard, mother of 2 semi-failed sons. She and my father are the most healthy example of a life-long married couple I could imagine, and the reason I still have a marriage.

    “All this, and she is now enthralled to the Idiot Box and scared it’s the germ-pocalypse. We’ve tried over the past 2 years to break the spell, no avail. Shut off the TV, folks. The Alpha Wave Beam is lethal.

    “It was my own mother who taught me about Bernays, Milgram, Stanford, and a host of other non-physical atrocities perpetrated against innocents. She instructed my brother and I, while watching Wonder Woman (Linda Carter will always be WW! fight me), that even though the bad guys were obviously Nazis, it was wrong to make assumptions about people despite their ‘uniform’. She had a long foray as a near-libertarian (“Governments are only good for fire departments!”). The submission to authoritarian rule was never on the radar.”

    I felt similarly when I learned that Nicole Foss suffered TrumpDerangementSyndrome. In a way, it reminds of some famous writer’s remarks on advice: “Whan a reader tells you there’s something wrong with a book, they’re almost always right. WHen they tell you how to fix it, they’re almost always wrong.”

    Readers read; writers write. Successful persons in our culture almost always submit to authority at some level. The higher up the ladder they climb, the higher the authority they submit to. Climb high enough, and they can directly kiss the boss’s ass with their own two lips.

    As they age successfully, they seem to grow a sense of downright ignorant complacency from all this career climbing just as, ironically, they’ve become fully financially independent and able to tell any boss to kiss their ass. Apparently, they believe in bosses, except one who so brazenly presents himself as a Big Bad BOSS that they feel justified in blaming him for the problems so many bosses, whom they served, created.

    Spend a lifetime serving the system, and it has its effect on one.

    #83855
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    Years ago, a work colleague with a Russian “mail-order” wife said she told him that the Soviet Union fell because the Russians didn’t believe the lies anymore. 5000 troops back into Kabul, China closing its ports due to COVID, containers stuck in US ports and yards due to the lack of workers, the coronavirus plague, vaccines that don’t block transmission, blaming the unvaccinated, and the extraordinary wildfires destroying West Coast town; the big lies matter now. It is a matter of life and death. The Empire is finished. Americans will find out the truth. The corporate state and the media are losing all trust. The question is can society be rebuilt? Or, is it too late for human civilization to continue? Climate change is becoming too extreme and resources too expensive to extract. Employees risk death and unpayable hospital bills getting the mandated jabs and showing up for work.

    #83856
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Employees risk death and unpayable hospital bills getting the mandated jabs and showing up for work.”

    Right thar’s a major “money quote”.

    #83857
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I still say that between extreme heat/cold, and plague after plague (there will be real plagues, of course, and soon), burkhas are still a smart dress style investment. All the cool kids will be wearting Nike Burkhas.

    #83858
    those darned kids
    Participant

    and living in nike houses. swoosh.

    #83859
    those darned kids
    Participant

    why can’t i be a “fact-checker”? do you need a special diet? it seems there are more “fact-checkers” than facts to check.

    i bet “fact-checkers” are “fat chequers”.

    #83860
    deflationista
    Participant

    The storyline is being written right before your eyes:

    Unvaccinated = Anti-Lockdown Extremist = Conspiracy Theorist = Domestic Terrorist = Jihadist = Al-Qaeda.

    “..though there are currently no credible or imminent threats identified.”

    #83861
    Autonomous Unit
    Participant

    @deflationista
    Please explain why the mainstream media censors or ignores credentialed MDs and PhDs from Oxford, Harvard, Yale, Sanford, etc.that question the narrative.
    Science requires a back and forth exchange of ideas between competing hypotheses. Preventing this exchange is not science.
    I don’t trust authorities that prevent the free exchange of ideas.

    #83862
    those darned kids
    Participant

    that’s a very sad video. people who should be united against an elite class that only seeks to exploit and pillage are manipulated into fighting against each other to preserve an illusory freedom that they will never be allowed to possess.

    meanwhile, those who manipulate both groups through funding, media, lies and fear fly overhead in private pollution machines on their way to martha’s vineyard to enjoy some nice scratchmyback’n’i’llscratchyours time with the select few.

    “oh, look at the proleplorables fighting below, william. how grand. i’ll wager 250 quatloos on the fat one with the trump/elvis 2024 facemask.”

    divide and concorde, so to speak.

    #83863
    chooch
    Participant

    I pinched these thoughts from Jesse’s Cafe Americain. It is a mashup of Amanda and Jesse

    “You want to distance yourself to the degree possible from conflict entrepreneurs.  These are people or pundits or platforms that intentionally exploit conflict for their own ends.  People who really delight in every twist and turn of the conflict.  And right now we tend to amplify those voices.  On social media and other places.”

    “Why do conflict entrepreneurs, and deceivers, and con men seem to flourish in times like these?

    They offer simplicity, the fantasy of a cartoon like picture of the world, relieving their listeners of the burden of thinking and caring and loving.

    They nurture feelings of powerlessness and confusion by portraying those on the edge of darkness as victims of ‘the other.’

    They fill the dull emptiness of hardened hearts with strong emotions like fear, hate and rage.

    Those who cultivate hate and pride for their own purposes, and those who spread their hate and lies to others,  will see a reckoning of sorrows, no matter how carelessly they approach their actions and their consequences now.

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