Debt Rattle August 21 2022
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[See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 21 2022]United Nations recruited over 100,000 “digital first responders’ to push the establishment narrative on COVID via social media.
Finally found out who Deflationista was working for. The UN!
The snake bit her on both feet?
I got locked out into WordPress purgatory for posting images. Let’s see if I can break it up.
The reason I wouldn’t use it is because practically all ideas are “Mass formations” then. The word has no boundaries and just means “Idea” or “meme”. However, if that’s the way it originated then certainly it was appropriate to use that way.
I’ve seen this elsewhere: people grow up Christian, get disillusioned, leave it, and then do very well while dumping on religion because they got all the benefits of religion, but having left it now have little maintenance costs for the drawbacks. In fact, all American culture is this way. However, if you had grown up lacking all moral code in complete moral relativism, as many do, you would not have internalized the code and would not be receiving the benefits. This is happening now in the general population whose parents (barely) were Christian or Churchgoers, but the children never were. They now have no code and no reason to adopt one.
However, they, and the whole society, suffer immensely because of it. Including the few remaining moral people who are taken advantage of if they work or take responsibility, AND are likely belittled, mocked and ostracized as untouchables if they would dare go to Church instead of the strip club where good and reasonable, tolerant men and women go…obviously. IKYN. Quite sure if you said at school you spent all weekend at one or the other location, saying you were at “Church” would be the one to cut off your friends, get calls from Social Services, and sink the ship of courtesy forever. Strip Club? You’re super coool!
I’m sure you can tell I’m not much of a churchgoer, but this behavior is bizarre, and clearly detrimental. To everyone.
Now do you have to have a “Church” and believe in “God”? Not really the former, although it helps, but what does the latter mean? Would someone like to “Define” God and name the unnameable Tao? Do Buddhists define “God”? It means as above, people “Discover” the moral laws, which pre-exist and post-exist themselves. Which means the morality comes from a single location, outside of themselves, and is eternal, although we have a very hard time defining and executing it accurately. That’s God enough and any personal spiritual connection will do, but because it is real, exists outside of you, and is easily contacted, they tend to be the same worldwide. It’s easy to know them by their fruits.
Presently our fruits are rotten, if not deadly poison.
“EXPOSED: LabCorp sued for faking paternity tests”
Just like everything else in the Western world: totally fake, a fraud, a vicious attack, and also costs money, in this case, perhaps a life sentence for legal slavery. Approve!!!
Or almost as bad as the FBI and the FBI lab that was doing the same thing, sending people to prison for fake, fraudulent, fabricated tests. Who do you WANT to be the Daddy? Taylor Swift? Done. There’s no such thing as gender, why not? Are you a bigot or something?
Trust the Science! Trust the Experts!
Worse? I’ve read this story before and nothing happened. To the FBI or to the Fake Paternity. So here we go again.
I see the excess deaths from the lockdown effect appearing in the news now. What lockdown? But clearly this is front-running the 40% increase in all-cause mortality, making it the result of lockdowns we haven’t had for 6-9 months, instead of the something else that it obviously is.
Gross, but as I can see now, nobody wants the truth, everybody loves the lies, it’s going to work fantastic if there is but a pinch of pixie dust at the root to build the world out of. So, “lockdowns obviously kill people” – but only with a 12 month delay – here we come. Is that really any crazier than that 10 year olds drop dead at baseball games from fluffing sheets? Oh wait, there’s “I never told anyone to lock down! What are you talking about???” – Antony “I AM the Science!” Fauci. That’s crazier, I guess. Remember: the point of dissolving logic and reason is POWER. If there is no logic, the only reference point is who will beat me more? They become the Truth, and the god.
“Europe really needs to act as a negotiator between NATO, Russia and Ukraine, and include China in the discussions..”
This is quite insane. No, “Europe” signed an express treaty to do this already, then double-crossed both Russia and Ukraine, inflamed the war, and got 14,000 (more) people killed. Since they were the ones CAUSING mass-murder and genocide, I hardly think they are the dispassionate negotiator. Europe WANTS to be. They make their money “being Europe”, dressing in a fine suit, talking calmly and quietly, and therefore getting billions in unearned money of interest rates, while far better men in Africa are locked out with high rates and low trust because they are “not European.” Because “Everybody knows”.
Not Agreement Capable. It wouldn’t matter what you negotiated, or why, or with whom, they are incapable of keeping their word, as is anyone America, Canada, Australia, or in the present Ukraine. Don’t talk to them, don’t refer to them, don’t negotiate with them, because you’re just wasting your time in the manure pit and will get smeared. I wonder how Russia will respond to the open assassination of their leaders. Good? You think? Or bad?
“Just How Bad Could Things Get this Winter? (RT)”
Well prices are certain to double here in America, and already have. I like how they only care about prices in London, although that is clearly the least bad by 50%, and also have the most money to cope with it. What? There are OTHER places in England? Welp, I guess you die, West Midlands. Welcome to British history where London murders everyone they can find, every day, to save themselves. That Irish food ain’t gonna import itself this ’47.
Looking at the article, clearly there is not enough firewood to do this for more than a few months, which is why conservation is so important. If the mass of European homes were passive solar, the demand could be met with mere stove kindling. But after discovering and refining that science, we spent 40 years building every house and building to NOT conserve. And the structure to NOT have security, a courtyard, fruit trees, and so on.
“this year’s profit is forecast to reach over 16 million kroner (€2 million)”
This shows how microscopically tiny this sector is. €2 million wouldn’t buy a house.
“the sanctions against Russia – followed by Moscow’s response to the restrictions – sent prices through roof.”
What response? The continued flow of gas and oil to a people who just brazenly stole $300B from them? It’s 99% the first part: YOUR sanctions against Russia. And by which Russia is wealthier and more powerful than ever, which is the practical transfer of all European Wealth directly to Russia and the BRICs.
Yes, if you take all the Euro currency on the continent, put it in a big pile, then light it on fire like the Joker, you WILL have a problem of being too poor to buy gas. Who knew?
https://i.imgflip.com/wqyl2.jpg“It’s about sending a MESSAGE.” – The Joker.
https://i.imgflip.com/2od042.jpgI’d like to say “That’s not a problem except they did it to food” but it IS a problem, and they just DOUBLED the war on humanity by opening an equal-sized front and artillery-shelling of your food AS WELL AS your fuel. …And all this after attacking and killing your medicine. Everyone sits around and pays their Netflix bill, not their heating bill. Sales of Versace are brisk.
“It is conceivable that the population would rebel or that there would be looting,”
Yes, but the POINT is for there to be looting. Plebs looting plebs. That’s the point of the whole right-wing radio, left-wing social media setup since the 90s. I don’t think their palatial estates will survive either though. Let me ask you: who’s your bodyguard? How’s HIS extended family?
“They have raided his farm with armed federal agents and they have said he needs to stop selling his meat until he gets regulated by the federal agencies whose job it is to,” …Drive all competition out of business to increase profits for monopoly Tyson. Who recalls their deadly meat-packing 5x a year. That’s what the Federal Government and “Regulations” exist for. That’s their sole purpose.
Is that too extreme? How is American health doing since they started #Helping? Better? Or far worse? How’s the income distribution and food resiliency? How’s its dependence on foreign oil?
Again, the corporate structure is something GOVERNMENT set up. It’s been the rule and understand for years. The MEMBERS own the food because they are co-owners. It’s THEIR food, not Miller’s. So there is no processing and sale. Sell what you already own to yourself?? But without any act of legislature, no act of courts, they just decided one fine morning, “Oh the law is not the law anymore. We decided it isn’t and are arresting you.”
“Do you think the Legislature will ever catch up and review it or pass a law?”
“Actually, I could care less. The People and the Legislatures don’t run things. –I– Do. I AM THE LAW.” Same way Fauci is “The Science.” That is, by “Making s–t up” and just saying it.
“The Dutch government announced plans” without asking anyone or checking anything. “Well, those condos ain’t gonna build themselves! My brother’s half a billion dollars into stealing this land! If it doesn’t go thorough he will be a slightly-smaller-hundred millionaire! Well I say, good sir!”
Demographic Disaster. First they’re mad and the world is ending for too many people. Next they’re mad and the world is ending for too few people. Can’t please some people. The world is always ending so “Give money to me.”
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/113/201/ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney.jpgYou’re shutting off my food AND my heat? Shut up and take my money! You have my full support!
And what is it? 2-3 Million people a year are entering America now, 2 million of them illegally, in order to keep the pop rates up? I would have to say that’s inaccurate reporting on the chart then. It has different implications, as without a border there will be no “America”. Exactly as planned. However, they may find themselves surprised America isn’t like that.
Dr. D:
Why don’t you just get your own blog? Instead of cloging Ilargi’s Debt Rattle with your screed????Lockdowns are to blame? I guess nothing is sacred in an ABV(Anything But Vaccines) world.
Re; Dugin murder. Is the WEF/Davos/NeoCons so desperate they’re doing assassinations next? The elites taking pot shots at each other.
If I was the Russians – fortunately there are more qualified people there to deal with this – my goal would be to deter further attempted assassinations. Patient and obscure won’t work. I’d select 3 targets: Davos, London & Washington.
@v.arnold
Now now, sir. I happen to enjoy reading both (3?) Doctors comments! Long or short, Fiskie, or just brief comments on todays artwork, this is a nice place to spend a few minutes each day.Dr. D makes good points, and seems to see what Crazy Uncle Ted put forth (also a Dr.-at 26 years of age, I believe) some years ago. The system needs only individuals- not families or groups of like minded people. The only way that works for the system is if the individual needs the system. Do away with regular religion, do away with family and family values. Isolate people. Lock them down. Give them all smart phones so they now longer communicate with others in a face to face setting and bingo. Individuals only.
Enjoy what remains of this weekend!
V.Arnold I think you don’t quite understand it is Dr. D’s blog too. Unless you want Raul to close comments. Hell I’m only here for Dr D.
He leaves – I’m going with him. (false threat) He’s like my favourite mind within the illusion of time and space.It’s not clogging if it regularly is one post. Which is understood to be of a certain length, today technicalities caught him out so the image-athon drew it out.
The analysis, the humour the off the cuff pedantry the pathos. What more could you want? Hell I’m thinking of simply copying and pasting each days rant onto a substack just so others don’t miss out.
Anyway – I like that you express how you feel but I would be less inclined to linger if not for the depth of human understanding this dude doth posses.BTW what happened to UpstateNYer? – I really liked her vibe
On morals. Morals are simply an expression within the illusion of love. Of themselves they are nothing. If God is real then he needs no defence and nothing is outside of Him as all is one.
Nothing real can be threatened.
Nothing unreal exists
Herein lies the Peace Of God.We simply play act as children believing ourselves to be seperate from infinite source. Bodies are the embodiment of the mad idea of separation and an individual self.
The best I can do is not take the world too seriously but seriously attempt to see my own blocks to love’s presence – which is usually made painfully obvious by where my morals are – but not based on morality at all.
In essence learning there is no me but only All.
It is a long journey and anyone who tells you the spiritual journey is easy or fast is selling you something. The journey ends literally with the entire undoing of the physical universe and all of our facts and opinions and selves.
But we all gunna die anyway so why not try to find a way to love by seeing to our first order of business – what is NOT loving within our perceptionsI anticipate real estate reform debate in political circles beginning with the mid-term sound-bite frenzies. A reformatory shitshow like Obamacare ten years ago.
Farmers in the Netherlands are giving the government another chance to see if they will change their mind – otherwise known as cowardice – while their government, as part of NATO, has just murdered Putin’s mate’s daughter in an aparent hit on one of Putin’s mates, making this personal.
Good for NATO, I am relieved to see this as it means that at least some of humanity has worked out the value of violence. Unfortunately they are not my team, but it gives us hope that humanity will survive, even if farmers go the way of the dinosaurs.
“Dr. D:
Why don’t you just get your own blog? Instead of cloging Ilargi’s Debt Rattle with your screed????”Where I come from, real men tell real men to plainly shut up when that’s what they mean, not hide behind some guy’s blog. This is Raul’s blog, best I can tell, not V. Arnold’s, and he can shut up on his blog whomever he wants. If you want to shup people up, gop start your own blog. Have a domain name on me: Damkidzoffamylawn!!
Most people here have better things to do than go around telling people to shut up. But if that’s the best you can do….
Since our world is full of self-serving hypocrites, Dr. D is our very own giant hypocrite killer!
P.S. I think someone just got out on the wrong side of the bed this morning. It happens from time to time with us older folks!
The German Government is preparing for a Military Regime for all eventualities. German leaders fear uprisings and they are arming the Bundeswehr for domestic operations. Germany has Europe’s largest Urban Warfare Training Center in „Schnöggersburg“ in Saxony-Anhalt, near Hamburg. It has been under construction since 2012 and was finished – training-ready – by 2020.
Today, the German armed forces (Bundeswehr) along with NATO forces are training for upheavals this fall – in Germany and likely in other major European cities.
It is clear that UN Agenda 2030, alias The Great Reset, with all its tyrannical, anti-societal measures to come, was in the plans for many years. In fact, with the 2010 Rockefeller report – see this — the plan for the decade of 2020-2030 was pretty much defined – see the chapters “The Scenario Framework” and the “Scenario Narratives”.
For those who pay attention to the WEF Cult’s warning of what was to come, their agenda was defined and explained way ahead. For more Cult “warnings”, see this.
In preparation of the planned Fall 2022 Epidemics Tyranny, the German government’s Corona Crisis Staff, for example, has already been under military leadership, most recently under Major General Carsten Breuer. He heads the Bundeswehr’s “Territorial Tasks” command in Berlin. Only recently, he boasted about measures and vaccination mandates to the Spiegel with these words:
“We will have to vaccinate up to 60 million people against Corona in the fall.”
This could be sheer bluff, or fearmongering – or it could be the truth. Or at least the plan based on what the German Government foresees. And this always in close collaboration with the World Economic Forum (WEF), and those who command the WEF, the world’s financial giants, what they have in mind for the next steps, to reduce global population and exert their control over the survivors.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/coming-fall-2022-epidemics-tyranny/5790534
THE documents were first
leaked in a cyber attack on the
European Medicines Agency
website. More than 40 megabytes
of classified information from the
agency’s review were published
on the dark web, and several
journalists including those at the
British Medical Journal were
sent copies of the leak.
In the U.S., the Food and Drug
Administration had previously agreed
to withhold the documents and their
jaw-dropping revelations from the
public for 75 years, until Texas
District Judge Mark Pittman ordered
their release within eight months,
stating it was ‘of paramount public
importance’.
Most alarmingly of all, the
documents show that in the trials
there were at least 1,223 deaths
reported in the first 28 days after
injection.
The NHS, media and the
government continually state that
the vaccines are ‘safe and effective’
while those that report vaccinerelated injuries via the Yellow Card
scheme are often accused of making
false correlations or imagining
their symptoms.
However, the Pfizer documents
paint a very different picture,
listing thousands of side effects that
occurred at an alarming rate, which
were as a direct result of taking the
experimental genetic injection.
According to their report, Pfizer
hired 600 extra staff to handle the
sheer number of adverse reactions
from its covid-19 shot, and said it had
planned to hire 1,800 in total.
Serious side effects included, but
were not limited to: auto-immune
disorders; blindness; diabetes; herpes;
heart problems such as myocarditis;
thyroid disorders; neurological
conditions such as multiple sclerosis;
seizures; epilepsy; narcolepsy and
Guillain-Barré Syndrome.
Non-fatal conditions such as
eczema, blisters, asthma, fertility
problems, inflammatory bowel
disease, deafness and even tongue
biting are also listed among the side
effects by Pfizer.
While it has been approved for use
in pregnant women, it is also known
to cause pregnancy complications,
including many spontaneous
abortions. One of the many issues it
causes is anaphylactoid syndrome of
pregnancy or ASP for short.
ASP is a fatal disease for mothers
and is among the leading causes
of maternal mortality. Symptoms
include severe bleeding, confusion,
shortness of breath and anxiety. There
is therefore a high risk for pregnant
women taking the covid ‘vaccine’.
The Pfizer document also lists
various blood disorders, Crohn’s
disease and liver failure as side
effects. Blood clotting was another
issue reported from the trials.
One of the most telling side effects
listed is… covid-19. Proponents
often argue that despite the possible
side effects associated with some of
the covid shots, they at least prevent
people from dying from covid-19.
The problem is that the ‘vaccine’
actually causes people to develop the
disease, and so it is contributing to
the number of cases, listing covid-19-
associated pneumonia as a side effect.
Some may argue that these
problems are only associated with
the Pfizer shot, but death and serious
injuries have been present and
publicly acknowledged with all of the
manufacturers’ injections.
Research developed by Edinburgh
University showed that almost 350
Britons have been struck down with a
rare clotting disorder after getting the
AstraZeneca vaccine.
These blood clots cause minor
bruising around the body and can
leave some with a purple-dotted rash.
The Moderna vaccine has been
associated with heart problems such
as myocarditis and pericarditis.
Their list of adverse reactions also
includes inflammation, fainting and
breathing difficulties.
Data from the UK Health
Security Agency (UKHSA) in the
table on page 2 has also revealed
that both covid-19 deaths and cases
were worse in vaccinated people,
particularly those over the age of 18.
The official data is clear: the chances
of developing covid-19 increases
significantly following subsequent
‘booster’ jabs.
This is broadly in line with the
information contained in the Pfizer
document, which states that the
shots cause covid-19 and respiratory
illnesses.
Coupled with the fact that ONS
data recently revealed that covid
deaths were much lower than
previously thought, the risks of
taking the vaccine seem to greatly
outweigh the risks of not doing so.
For sources please see page 2Been working on the Doomstead nonstop, there’s a hard rain that’s going to fall.
Ran into an old acquaintance who was a long time ‘Alex Jones One World Globalist’ kinda guy.
I said, ”A lot of people of people should be eating crow now about the globalists agenda being right on, now that Putin actually articulated it and said it out loud for all the world to hear.”
He said, “They should be eating shit.”
I said, “Amen brother”
He said,” You wanna save the planet from fossil fuels? Soak Victoria Nuland and her maggot husband in gasoline and light them on fire.”
I said, “ To what effect?”
He said, “The globalist have the biggest carbon foot print by far and that that gasoline would be the last fossil fuel they ever consumed.”
I said,” Consumed them.”
He said,” I stand corrected.”
He smiled.
Alastair Crooke continues to explore the origins of concealed totalitarianism within European culture.
… part 2:
… part 1 if you missed it earlier:
F.S.
phoenixvoice posted:
Matthias Desmet very specifically does not call the Covid madness “mass formation psychosis” — the studied scholar calls the phenomenon “mass formation” and applies the term to negatively, neutrally, and positively charged events.
I believe it was Dr. Robert Malone who appended “psychosis” to the term. (…) It sticks because, by itself, the term “mass formation” is not descriptive enough for lay people to grasp what is being described.
Yes. “Mass formation” is a standard term in psych. ‘science’, and it was Malone who added “psychosis,” imho, to make it clear to the US public that that the beliefs / actions that spring from them / whatever / are aberrant, deviant. (In the one particular case.)
To broaden the scope: Human groups react to dangers thru communication and hyping ‘fear’, attention suddenly paid to, e.g. bombs in shoes (Reid the shoe bomber – remember all over the world plane travellers had to take off their shoes!), or in a local ex. that does not spread, an mad man knifing a young woman tennis player on the court (she survived), the panic spread (tennis courts deserted, tennis coaches applying for unemployment, girls not wearing white skirts, etc.) about 150 Km round about.
Fashion crazes are similar in a non-negative way. (Maybe.. )
Advertisers and propagandists of all stripes have learnt how to exploit this ‘communicative’ characteristic, to great profit for many of them, as have Gvmts. (W.) Who now seem to be exploiting the fear card as the only one in the pack, which is a blatant sign of weakness and desperation – and perhaps mass formation! E.g. Caught in a bubble of group-think and financial dependence trashing about to promote renewables and restrictions on heating, etc. (Germany.)
The African Union better be careful or find themselves roped into that WHO thing- a little intimidation up close and personal at the g20.
@Dr. D You’re correct about people benefiting from Christianity and then turning their backs on it. A solid society is based on a solid foundation. In our case, that foundation is Plato, who said we live in dualistic world, one of both the abstract and concrete, the mind and body, stability and change. To maintain a stable foundation requires occasional maintenance, much like a house. Church fathers (the best of whom like Augustine were Platonists) crafted a complex myth system designed to preserve the lessons of Plato. Unfortunately, or inevitably, Plato was abandoned in the middle ages starting with Augustine and the nominalists, leading to the Protestant break — and ultimately our modern world. I love my life but I find the modern world repellent, offering false promises and empty lives. The early church fathers of course were not literalists; they viewed Christianity as allegorical or figurative. I believe a return to Plato is necessary to preserve our culture.
The moral code develops from a child’s interactions with the world, ESPECIALLY interactions with parents. So, so many times I’ve observed my children checking their developing moral codes with me, expressing an opinion aloud, and then looking to me or asking, “That’s right, mom?” (One son, in particular, age 16, says this frequently. His twin is more vehement, doing things or saying things and half-daring me to challenge him. If/When I disagree I levelly tell him so.). They are always checking to see how I view something. They have done this since they were old enough to speak (they did it earlier through behavior.)
My ex was also raised in a devout Mormon home, but his moral code degenerated to something I don’t recognize as morality. He selected his current employment based on ease of hiding his income for the purpose of avoiding child support. (He told me this shortly after he got the job.) He chafes at all moral impositions that originate from outside himself. He expressed desires to become a CIA agent, licensed to kill. His general mode of operating is to tell others “what they want to hear” so that they behave in the way he prefers. (Which worked in 2014 with his psychiatrist, but backfired in 2019 to the psychologist performing the custody evaluation.)
Yes, moral codes are very important. Organized religions play a part — but in our current world there is a lot more than religion filling that role in society. We have: youtube, Disney, TikTok, video games, social media, movies, professional sports, schools, etc. We can’t easily escape all of these influencing our children, so it is my view that home and family and parental behavior is the best place to teach and model morality.
I sometimes worry about my children’s moral codes *because* they have lived with their father and his histrionic, Halloween-loving (forever a) fiancée half of the time for 5 years now. One Christmas my daughter was given a can of “unicorn meat” from that household — inside were plush unicorn pieces with red to show the “guts” where they had been cut apart. After the kids started spending significant time in that household I noticed that they became more prone to torture insects (this has fortunately died down.). One son’s use of profanity dramatically increased, and he became increasingly resistant to my directions — it took a couple of years for me to get a handle on the shifts in his behavior. Over there the children were given full, unsupervised access to rated R films starting at age 11 for the boys, and violent video games. (In my home movies are watched together, there are few rated r films, and when there are I am usually there to provide moral context.).
Two of the children have largely discarded the violence-worship from their father’s home. The third has not. Last week, one son made a morbid comment aloud in history class about ripping the head off of a zebra which offended classmates and earned him a visit to the school’s social worker. That son has a poor grasp of social rules in general (he has several psych diagnoses)…and does not understand that what is viewed as “funny” in his father’s home is not welcome in other social circles.
I counter the influence of their father with a weekly “family time” that involves me, the kids, my spouse, and my parents. Nearly every week I read a story from US history — this builds in them an understanding of “where they come from” and builds the mythos of this country. (The US was founded on lofty goals…the empire of the last century or so is a moral quagmire, so it helps to remember what the country can be, could be.). Currently, I am also reading creation myths from cultures around the world, and after that I’ll continue with acquainting them with biblical stories — they need familiarity so that they understand cultural references that they encounter.
While I value much of the Judeochristan moral code, I also understand that organized religions have a nasty habit of perpetuating themselves whether or not their perpetuation truly benefits their adherents. Nietzse was not incorrect to say that religion is the opiate of the masses — although I’d counter that religion plays many roles, not just that one, and that in our current society that there are a multitude of institutions that serve as “opiates of the masses” and I’m not so sure that religion is even the largest or most predominant.
Also…I did not turn my back on the morality of my upbringing, I rejected the organized religion that was supposedly at its core…subsequently realizing the religion was actually a window-dressing. What many don’t see is that the moral code didn’t come from the religion, it came from the parents and/or other strong, quasi-parental influences. Organized religion claims to be a moral bastion, but so often it is parasitical. At the same time, organized religion can be place for strong community bonds to flourish despite increasing human atomization amidst large concentrations of human population.
@RIM: Man, you read a lot of the same stuff I do.
Good snag on the Ethical Skeptic post from yesterday!Morality, ethics, religion, atheism thread…
Traditionally, the kind of Muslims who kill people consider Buddhists “atheists” and kill them for the lack of a personified God-entity.I remembere my early childhood unusually clearly. We moved a lot and I kept archiving memories, but maybe it’s just my set point. Both sides of my familywere very moreal, and it was Christian morality, but were not going to church much, nor taking us kids to it. Mom found The Church of Christ and we went to that 3 times per week, but it just added a philosophical layer to morality, and it raised a lot of questions, because sending those who never heard about Jesus to (slightly lesser) hell conflicted with family morality and with God-is-Love.
Jenny and I tried hard to find a church to raise the kids in, but they all were too conflicted internally, so we did not. They turned out fine. One is an atheist, who is vegetarian on grounds of not doing harm, not killing.
My Buddhist teacher says “Atheists can know the truth”. He should be careful where he travels, right?
I “discovered” Buddhism late enough that it did not involve the kids directly, and there was no Sunday-school.
I think we all have spirit-nature, “God”-nature, but maybe some people are just bodies without it. I am truly not certain about that. It’s enigmatic. Thinking of Victoria Nuland and Dick Cheney for instance.
There are all other kinds of defects in human animals, and this one would have a population-control function, so a “utility”.Religions,as practiced, are a socialization of an essential human quality, for better and for worse, and for raising children with normsand stuff.
That’s enough from me this Sunday morning… er, afternoon now.PhoenixVoice and I were writing at the same time, but she’s faster,and beat me to the draw.
Not very different thought, though…I was brought up in a ‘Christian’ nation (England), and was indoctrinated by the system into believing all sorts of bullshit. It took me until my late teens to escape from it. My father hated churches, and though it was never talked about in those days, I suspect that, as a child, he was abused in a church or by a church official, or both.
For me, the fundamental flaws and inconsistencies of Christianity far outweigh its benefits.
1. Christianity is a religion invented by the Romans, after a particular general, having lost many battles, won a battle, having supposedly Christian symbols painted on shields and banners.
2. The Old Testament is primarily a catalogue of violence perpetrated by one tribe against another tribe, with various justifications for that violence. It also catalogues rules about violence perpetrated within the tribe, i.e. If a woman wears clothing of two different fabrics, she shall be stoned to death; if a son is disrespectful to his father, the father shall gather his neighbour’s and stone him to death; a man may beat his slave to death but may not beat another man’s slave to death without paying that man compensation.
3. The accounts of supposed events in the New Testament vary immensely, depending on which author one reads.
4. The Romans used their newly-contrived religion to reconquer Europe and extend their control beyond the original boundaries of the Roman military empire.
5. The Romans usurped and relabeled traditional festival that had meaning; thus the winter solstice was relabeled Christmas and the spring equinox was relabeled Easter, though not necessarily celebrated at the equinox. The genuine ‘died on the cross and was resurrected -meaning the lowest point of the Sun’s apparent movement, corresponding with the constellation Crux- was shifted from the winter solstice to Easter.
6. Once well established, they then used the Christian religion to get ruled kingdoms to establish armies and conquer much of the world, in order to loot it.
5. Christian empires operated on the basis of slavery, theft, brutality and genocide for centuries -all of it condoned by Christian leaders.
7. Christians promoted (and many still do) the notion that the Earth exists to be dominated by humans and exploited by humans.
Thus, at this stage in our decline, we operate under a completely fucked-up calendar system in which the days of the week are designated according to the seven heavenly bodies visible to the naked eye that move, the number days in a month is entirely irregular and reflects the egos of Roman emperors, the manes of the months are idiotic -the ninth month is called the seventh, the tenth month is called the eighth etc. and the entire system commences on the wrong day!
In the Northern Hemisphere New Year’s Day is actually December 22nd (the twelfth month but called the tenth) and in the Southern Hemisphere it is 22nd June.
Apologies for the terrible numbering! Adding and rearranging but not checking carefully before hitting submit.
A *grin* 😀 to afewknowthetruth. (A challenge to write those words without the spaces!)
When in high school I took honors classes. I found that I enjoyed these classes — primarily because of formal and informal discussions that dealt with “meaty” issues — issues of philosophy and morality and politics and religion and ethics — that would pop-up with frequency among the students. (Not teacher-led.)
A hat-tip to RIM — so much appreciation for a space for such discussion to occur, and the headlines & article excerpts are food for minds that are seeking knowledge and truth and understanding. It is invigorating to have intellectual discussion and respectful disagreement.
In my book, you are all “honors students.”
I was a very precocious little kid about religion. I had the ability to listen for long periods (for a seven year old) to sermons in church and was entertained by them to a point. Not as good as Disney or Gunsmoke, but still quite attentive, it was like a puzzle that needed solving.
My big break with religion came the summer before I started 2nd grade. I was visiting my grandmother and had attended her church for a couple of summers, I loved the stain-glass windows.
The Presbyterian minister came across to me as stern and ever so virtuous and unbending concerning ‘morals’. I was still sorting that out when one fine summer Sunday, he didn’t show up for church.
No one knew where he was, including his wife and kids, who were in church with the rest of us, waiting for him to show up.
We all eventually left church a bit puzzled assuming he had a health issue or was in some kind of accident. His family seems very embarrassed.
Embarrassed doesn’t begin to cover it.
A couple days later, it turns out the minister had run off with a half his age 30 something choir director for parts unknown.
They apparently had been having a torrid affair for quite some time, many had suspected it but dare not speak.
Boffing in the Balconey
(A great name for a band by the way)
His wife attempted suicide and his kids eventually went off the deep end getting into scrapes with the Law.
It was a small town and was quite devastating, even a little kid like me could sense the damage that was done.
I never trusted religion or religious people after that.
You could say I over reacted but hey, I was only seven, and it struck a deep nerve in me that a figure of trust and faith could betray his family and community in such a big way, all for, as I heard my father say in hushed tones, “a piece of ass.” (I wasn’t sure how a donkey fit into it)
The pious are pretentious, was and is my blinking neon sign of morality to this day.As far as morality in general and humanity in particular.
None of us is as stupid as all of us.
Although I haven’t commented for quite a while, I still read TAE every day and am incredibly thankful for it. My gratitude is specifically to Raul for being willing to daily sort through the myriad madness in so much media and pull together here a few threads that together help the world make a lot more sense.
But my gratitude certainly extends to the regular commentariat here, and in particular Dr. D. I do not understand his references or writing style 100% of the time. But that’s OK. I get the gist the great majority of the time, and appreciate his ability to reach through the usual political camps and see the blatant hypocrisy that rots us to the bone.
One advantage to being a frequenter of the Comments section on a blog with regular followers is that you soon get familiar with the kinds of things most of them like to talk about. If you learn over time that one or more of them tend to comment on things you’re not interested in, or are too hard to read, or are of the TL;DR variety, you can just reach for that down-arrow key and skip right by–no need to engage. That is why I would never think of asking anyone to leave. After all, each of us can find value in different places.
That being said, I must admit to wondering why Comments section frequenters who go on to extraordinary lengths don’t feel more compelled to start their own blogs.
The Colossus of the Apennines statue is amazing. Built in 1579 and 35′ tall. Just wow.
Thanks for that, Ilargi.
The murder of Darya Dugina by the Ukronazis opens the door to big time retaliation to the family members of Nazilensky, Biden and Eurotardistans ‘elite’.
Yes, the family members of the collective west globalists.
Anywhere, any time.
I hope the Kagan Klan is at the top of the Russian list.
The real problem with the CDC, NIH etc corruption is that we now know that our local MD has – probably unwittingly – been trained in the use of corrupt medicine. They are implementing the cures, standards and policies of the medical establishment, an establishment that is totally corrupt. One example is the use of MDs to spread the opiod medicines that have made many drug dependents and others dead. How can you trust your MD if your MD cannot work out which CDC, NIH etc policies, medicines etc are good and which are designed to steal from you?
Wang’s pledge also came as Widodo told Bloomberg on Thursday that Chinese President Xi Jinping planned to attend the Bali summit in person, along with Russian leader Vladimir Putin. Xi could meet US President Joe Biden, who is also expected to attend the gathering.
One nuke on Bali and the western neo-cons’ problems are solved? Why would you rule out such an act? I suspect that some of these attendees may back out at the last moment.
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