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Yeah the plastic thing….. We are all doomed really. Only so many years before we run out of synthesised fertilisers and then what do you do with 8 or 9 Billion and barely a single wild space left to plunder for survival. I fear it will be a reality that people taste a bit like pork in the end…
Gee whiz Carl Duisburg was a real piece of shit for sure!
I’ve been thinkin’ a lot about media bullshit and how total it is these days and it got me pondering the very direct correlation between debt and slavery and how many journos wanna keep up the house repayments and pay the kids medical bills or afford food basically which I guess puts em in a position where they kinda do what they’re told.
It’s like the Central Bank Money printing just works on so many levels to keep every one ‘on message’. Cos if you are say 30 and you are paying off a house in Sydney and want to work in news then you can’t be too far from the office most of the time and that means you are paying off a house that costs 1 million dollars! The editor says to you that the thing you wrote about Yemen and the American Military just isn’t gunna cut it so clean up your act or you’ll be looking for another job and you have to think to yourself – Am I gunna wait tables or just scrap the idea of telling the truth? I mean I have a family to feed……
Thanks so much for this article. Raul – you, and your like are Julian Assange. Where would we find facts or perspectives without the tireless activities of you and your like. I for one salute you and imagine a world where alternative media is shut down entirely and think of these words – “There will be blood”.
As for reality. In the framework of understanding laid down by those of us enlightened. We are either asleep or awake – which really has nothing to do with this world as we see it. But while dreaming I would at least prefer to call bullshit – bullshit!
Any system under too much pressure will break. Like a river red gum tree in a long drought that simply drops an entire limb, (sometimes hundreds of years grown) to save itself – I hope society will do the same with usury.
A plunge in birth rates at this stage may not be a bad thing. Just sayin’
I had Opening by Phillip Glass played for my wedding a decade or so ago. I need no convincing of this man’s astral talents.
Dr D. you are a breath of fresh air. My sweet ranting Nicole Foss avatar of the comments section. Always so spot on and more often than not very educative. I’m always more than excited to read your essays when Raúl posts them too. Keep up the clear eyed world watching while I hopefully lapse into meditation and the emptiness of a thoughtless mind hole.
“The most recent [Facebook] scandal has served to expose a broken and unbalanced ecosystem” Facebook and the like is how we are breaking the ecosystem.
Orlov’s Shrinking the Technosphere is so spot on. There was a time when messages were delivered and written in paper and were made from trees. And when the forests lost too many trees it was at least possible to plant more of them. How the hell are we going to plant device seeds? ‘Oh my lithium and cobalt mine’s have run dry, could we plant a new one on Antarctica?’
Spiritual pursuits, good food, clean water, hot sex, conversation, family, meaningful work and music. Fuck apps and convenience and research and all this endless race toward the betterment of civilisation. Consumerism is for losers yo. Boring vacuous losers. Meet your girlfriend in a bar over a few too many drinks and get some strength you paranoid androids.
Oh My God.
great links today Raúl, feels like we are coming up on something…. The debt is not going to remain easy to get your hands on and people are gonna cash out and call in what they are owed.
I don’t think the coral story is entirely temperature related. 200 years ago the eastern side of Australia was a great big bio-filtration system – now it’s pumped with fertiliser, pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, huge volumes of soil sediment washed there in the wet season from tree removal etc. Hardly a pristine environment for fish and coral. It’s a shame because on a very dry continent you would think cutting down the rainforests to plant a type of grass would be illegal or punishable by death but apparently under the watchful eye of mother england you can do what the hell you like. I guess Europeans were pretty cool with species extinction already so didn’t seem like a big deal to them….
A quote from Jacques
“What should we do to eliminate suffering and disease? It’s a wonderful idea but perhaps not altogether a beneficial one in the long run. If we try to implement it we may jeopardize the future of our species…It’s terrible to have to say this. World population must be stabilized and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. This is so horrible to contemplate that we shouldn’t even say it. But the general situation in which we are involved is lamentable”.
It will be nice and quiet though won’t it. And if a globalised population falls and there’s no one to hear it then did it really fall? People are so myopic and we are all just a bit too clever to be particularly hopeful here aren’t we. If it’s any consolation a lot of my anecdotal observations have shown me that insect populations are very high in our forests in Australia because our fertility here is just so pathetic that large scale chemical farming is an option for only small parts of the island continent. We are clearing a shit load of trees here though so it’s still just a matter of time. Bummer. And we had a nice reef when the Beatles broke up but it’s pretty shit now. Jacques Cousteau wouldn’t bother with it.
Dr D., I reckon it’s called predation. It’s not like just visiting TAE or similar site more than once doesn’t put you on some ‘watch’ list. The autobots just keep running their scripts. And we keep moving up the red flagpole.
So if the GFC of eight years ago was the worst recession since 1930’s then why weren’t people starving and super mobile etc. I’m so used to seeing graphic images in black and white from that time period that the recent crash just seems more like a bummer than a shit storm. I know people are working long hours etc and are leveraged to the eyeballs but people just seem fatter than they did in those old photos. It just doesn’t seem as dire. Am I missing something?
The oceans used to be the great sinks of the world catching all the nutrient and plant and animal matter washed from land and recombined into a vast array of seemingly endless varieties and volumes of creatures. They are now getting to be like wet deserts.
When you are alive to see an animal or a person die it has an impact but to see an ocean of sea life, and the flying and walking and crawling things that spawn from it disappear in your lifetime – well my friends, that is truly a cause for deep contemplation.
Nassim – right you are about the Aboriginal people here – they certainly didn’t have pecan and walnut raining down on them from above like the Americans did. And when the Europeans arrived it just wasn’t that hard except maybe in Wyoming or the few other harsh areas which remain similarly under populated to this day.
sumac.carol – we are in a similar situation though not a hayfield but a township. I think this is our main problem – the wildlife refuge and survive in the forest – Our place and the 35 thousand acres behind us to the south – but nightly and daily come in to the town past our place for whatever picking they can get. Our chickens live in an absolute fortress which, idealistically, is all made with recycled local hardwood. And again I have had huge issue with termites eating the hardwood and have had to paint it in diesel sump oil (toxic) so it doesn’t get consumed. All the fertility we import or create here gets exported into the forest as excrement and feathers. But hey this is a finance blog and I should just get back into monetised debt based income and not bother.
I tell myself at least we have a system set up for when the shit hits the fan. But if it does I reckon I’ll be eating a lot of Kangaroo and Wallaby meat. I’ll probably set some night light grasshopper traps like they do in Africa as well for extra protein.
Crazy but Nicole and Raul have always maintained to reduce or eliminate debt and I think I should just head that way and smash out the last 30 thousand we owe and then garden after that…..
Piping in while Oxymorons are popular.
The disappearing wildlife thing got me…. After so much homesteading distress I have started to get a taste for murder. I have started to detest thing I always loved. For example – Kookaburras – since my earliest of memories they have always been one of my favourite friends but now…Oh for god’s sake it’s carnage out there. Kookaburra’s are mating and eating every single one of my last crayfish in my dams. Almost every bird is eating my fruit, if not a bird then a rat, if not a rat then grass hoppers. Kangaroos and Wallabies come in every night consuming everything and now since it hasn’t rained for 6 weeks and there is no grass anywhere we are at a new order of magnitude. They are eating grape leaves, plum leaves the whole Pomme family – apples, pears, quinces, loquat etc… It’s pure carnage!
I give up. I’m going back to getting my food through the military industry-controlled oil and fossil fuel farming system! I’m gonna spend more hours making cash money and less getting my heart broken and just – you know – chill out. I’m over it.
Permaculture is a dirty word to me right now and I’m thinking poison and guns and dogs and fences and netting and ground water pumping and all that stuff that kills wildlife so that I can eat.
No wonder we are losing species – it’s us or them people. Not joking.
Great info Nassim. The comments here at TAE often have real gems and I am grateful to be in the midst of people who actually research and make up their own minds.
Thanks again people.
Dr. D that was a sweet rant. The world is just so disappointing. It’s why we stare at the stars or smoke a joint or meditate or whatever. Can’t we just lead simple little lives and give that others may live. Or at least share. Or at least not threaten violence to steal what is not really ours to have. And yes it really is just the international banking cartel. I mean usury means that you are forced to give back more than you took. And we are always taking something from someone or somewhere that we are giving back to the banks.
It’s why I never had a chance to see the largest subtropical rainforest on the planet – that WAS the east coast of Australia. Because it was all cut down for sugar cane (which is why the barrier reef is dead – not warming) before I was born. And we are not talking trees hugging the sides of rock like the pockets that are left here and there – we are talking deep well drained volcanic soil with 1 and a half metres of rain a year. You know RAINFOREST. I just get Diabetes. Sugar. And Debt. Thanks for cutting down billions of trees for sugar cane. Thanks for making people wage slaves to pay back debt. I love how you can pay back money by extracting natural capital from earth. Go Basel!!
Nassim, I reckon you might be lying by omission. To mention Melbourne as an indicator or marker for heat reference seems to support a narrative – not be scientific. Mentioning one metric is to omit a lot of others. If one were to drive less than an hour away from a maritime climate you would find – as I have that this summer has been very hot. Here in central victoria we are supposed to have .9 of a day per year at 40 celsius or above. We have had 5, and about 9 days over 36. Oh and did you mention February is our hottest month. No you did not. I know that south of the divide you are getting a very particular set of variables with weather pattering, but here it has been awful.
Yeah – i must say a big thanks too. Been around 9 years for me here and it’s been inspirational – particularly to 2011 and then after that more like the best little newspaper for me on the net. I am very thankful to Illargi for linking and commenting on a range of articles I wouldn’t have time to dig for.
All the best and keep up the good work. Get out of debt no matter what. Nothing much gets cancelled out down the line of history….. there’s always someone who’ll look to collect
In Australia our major crypto site is Coinspot. Interestingly they are not able to accept deposits of Australian dollars for the last few days with the issue not resolvable till the new year. Seems the banks may be noticing the tiny little bank run or currency flight or whatever it is that has been accelerating as of late.
Coinspot vows to find another bank somewhere else……
Strange the relationship between fiat and crypto right now.
My understanding is that banks create money on their balance sheets out of thin air – couldn’t supermarkets, retailers and the like end up getting govt. subsidies for their plastic bottles? It’s all bullshit.
If we could just get a massive stock market crash – then perhaps people would start using glass bottles and washing them at home for re-use and supporting a local dairy farmer etc.
A messy situation but by the standards of what we have now, maybe not so much
Californian fires being lit by energy weapons… WTF? I guess you haven’t lived in a forest or spent a great deal of time living within natural systems – bound to give you a little too much technobrainia. Wild fires start because indigenous peoples are no longer using firestick culture to work within natural systems. There is no way in the world our fires here in Australia are coming from anything other than Really flammable material on REALLY hot days in REALLY hot winds. It’s as if you believe fires can only start from the power of evil men or something’ – you kinda sound crazy dude.
I know I sound a bit rude but I live in the bush 35,000 acres of the most flammable forests in the world and I tell you you just don’t need any such thing as man made intervention to get that thing cooking.
V. Arnold – re facebook, couldn’t agree more. That shit is evil. It’s like fiddling while rome burns when we could be looking for a bucket of water or leaving the building. The thing most people never seem to want to come to grips with is that it is okay to live a humble little life that no one has to know much about – except those closest to you and most of those should be within a few kilometres in a saner world.
I am just so wary of “Scientists studying climate change”. You see they have to do it using all the planet degrading tools at their disposal – flying jet planes, sophisticated instruments of measurement and analysis made from rare earth metals and the like – plundered from the ground by digging up once beautiful forests. They are just so very tedious these scientists explaining the things we need to stop doing to save ourselves from the fates that await us from the things they are doing.
Plant some bloody potatoes and trees and stop talking already. We don’t need your science we need small communities of people looking after the necessities of their existence. I’m sick of the arrogance of experts.
There is a lot to be said for living a humble little life. Facebook can go and eat itself too. The whole shebang is crazy.
Best line this year – It’s all just snake oil. We want to save the planet, and the life upon it, but we’re not willing to pay the price and bear the consequences. So we make up a narrative that feels good and run with it.
Diogenes, thnaks for the men women life cycle – cracked me up – the comments were gold – that rooster must have had a lousy attorney So funny.
I think you may be still missing one of my points that I don’t really care about carbon so much – I got a wood fire after all, but if you think energy generation doesn’t come at some serious environmental cost you are caaa-raaayzee man.
Having said that I think you are right – the technology is here to stay and for better or for worse we are gonna get involved someway or another. So I perhaps should not have sold my Bitcoin? I dunno – got a bit of Ethereum and I have probably spent far too long looking into crypto currencies (had waves, litecoin, ripple tenx and a few others till I freaked out about my environmental credentials going out the window. I run a permaculture business and it JUST AINT COOL. Right now.
Oh and I like you so I’m not being antagonistic or judgy when I say – No one is shining my shoes except me. I’m just saying.
Diogenes, I love your enthusiasm – you are a true believer and a lot of what you are on about I agree with entirely except that until a currency goes beyond the blockchain we are screwed. If any of these ideological and altruistic solutions to the current mess (control by guys with muscle and guns – through debt) doesn’t move from the technological to the biological then what hope have we. The more I run it through my brain the more I end up with long term solutions aligned with Holmgren, Orlov, Foss/Meijer etc. In the crypto world of exchange we have the chance to move away from debt slavery but get slammed right into energy slavery and that is a game over situation – we are seeing it already with huge Chinese bitcoin mining operations running coal out of the ground and into the air faster than ever before. And if anyone tries to jump on me to explain that climate change is a non issue – then how about no more trees or waterways you can drink from. It doesn’t matter if it’s climate change! It’s environmental disaster anyway you look at it.
Good grief I’m going back to making beeswax candles and making love by an open fire!
The banks and energy giants that own coal must love cryptocurrencies – you’d be forgiven for thinking shadow banks in china haven’t financed these huge bitcoin mining warehouses full of computers. And given cryptos are no where near as valuable in the real world as people think they are (like shares and likes on social media) then I think bubble is gonna pop.
But not just yet. A lot of crazy people chasing yield and a lot more who like the idea of easy money.
Wonder what the govt or tax office will do about them
I wonder what the wealth ratio of whites to aboriginal families looks like in Australia – remembering it was all their wealth less than 250 years ago.
Gee Raul – I reckon you underestimated how poisoned the chalice was actually going to be! You wouldn’t be the president of the US for anything right now. Bernie dodged a bullet.
Great article and reminds me that I have worried that at some point in the not too distant future even more trees will come down and pelletised as part of the ‘renewable’ base load mix. The sun won’t shine at night but you can take down Tasmania’s forests and chuck em in the coal plant if city folk get bummed out by intermittent internet.
Lord give me the sense of mind to be in the world but not of it.
“These loans are for people who have no choice but to borrow to buy a car, and no bargaining power on the interest rate they pay: close to 20%. Even though the borrowers pay through the nose, they depend on cheap global credit.”
Really? 250 million used cars on the road in america at the moment and they have no choice? I dunno but I think people may need to get used to the idea of re-use and recycle if they want to get ahead. My whole house is made of other people’s junk and my wife and I have never bought a new car and paid cash. People need to life-hack the system some more me thinks.
Oh and while the caviar is getting consumed at these lavish parties the sturgeon is nearly extinct. Eat it while you can I guess. Like the turtle soup of yesteryear that the northern hemispheric parasites consumed till the edge of extinction. Bet those bankers are spewing they can’t have that on the menu- outside the private parties that is.
Trump managed to stuff the top of his Cabinet with a jaw-dropping collection of perverts, tyrants and imbeciles, the likes of which Washington has never seen.
Like there has never been any of them in politics before. I think career politicians are just a bit better with mask wearing.
Speaking of planting trees – and I don’t wanna be smug but I planted around 40 Oaks this week (and got paid for it!) Years ago I got despondent about the work available that you can do to make a buck. It all has some impact on the environment that we just put up with – building with cement, cleaning with dodgy chemicals etc. I had been involved in regular jobs people do.
One day it was like – fuck this I’m gonna find me some work where I am growing veggies, planting trees, making chicken runs etc. Had to run my own business it turns out.
Dam it feels good to be out in the country planting trees. Especially Oaks. Here in Australia there is a very strong aversion to cutting them down and you get the feeling when you plant them they will be there for a while. And if things get real tough there are always acorns to consume or feed to animals.
Will F. Okay if the financial aspects of Mr Hudsons ideas don’t resonate could you explain to me how capitalism is nurturing the environment. All costs are externalities for poor assholes to wear like the Somali’s and their rich fishing grounds being a e-waste dump to name just one of many many arguments. Also if people do not have access to their own land and rent it – where do they get their food from? They get it from Monsanto serfs who also smash the land and soil to pieces to pay their fucking rents until they can’t and then they get aggregated into giant biosphere destroying farming entities. There are just so many arguments against the financial rentier vampire squid that I can’t begin.
You worked hard and made good decisions but I think we are talking about an order of magnitude here.
Having said that I respect your point of view.
Class action anyone?
when i signed my license agreement for iPhone – i did NOT sign on for this shit!