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    Alfred Sisley A Village Street in Winter 1893   • Trump Wants ‘Day One’ Changes To US Policy (RT) • Trump Told Zelensky He Wants ‘Immediate Cease
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 12 2024]

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    oxymoron
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    Oroboros
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    Why women aren’t on construction sites.

    The short version

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    The Other Version

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    Oroboros
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    Oroboros
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    #176704
    Oroboros
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    Politics is always downstream from Culture…..

    As world events relentlessly unfold…….

    The New Dickens

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    #176705
    Dr. D
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    “DHS Announces New Rule To Allow Noncitizen Workers To Keep Jobs Longer While Awaiting Renewals

    Well I guess that makes sense. Not too bad.
    “The rule will allow for automatic work permit extensions of up to 540 days… nearly three times longer than the previous 180-day maximum.” Whaaaa? For years and years? Why not the rest of your life?

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    “San Diego Sheriff ‘Will Not’ Comply With New ‘Super Sanctuary’ Protections For Illegals

    This is the good side on why we have overlapping jurisdictions, as counter-efficient as that may seem. This is why under Biden they were trying to set up a Praetorian Guard out of Federal/D.C. Police, which had jurisdiction to Alaska.

    So if your local cops are corrupt, who do you call to arrest them? The Sheriff. And if he’s corrupt? The State Police. Overlapping jurisdictions. Then Congressman, the FBI…

    “Beijing Considering Yuan Devaluation In Response To Trump Tariffs

    There you go. Tariff solved. Currency Acquired. Again, my guess is the US$ goes up FIRST, and THEN drops 30%. Under what conditions, ask Armstrong.

    As an aside, Cullom and Luongo were, I dunno, talking over each other as they’re both strong NYers, but question was HOW do you possibly think you can FIX all this mess? Luongo has several steps of a plan that can, Cullom says we have embedded issues, a stock market 10x overvalued, and endless social programs to pay. That is, You can’t inflate yourself out of it. That’s a fallacy. You think we did in 1970? Nope “We” took all that pain right like a brick to the face, “We” being the Poors. Stocks flatlined but in PPP, DROPPED 90%, as they should. Retirement delayed 20 years, except this was pre-401k (and WHY they want a 401k now: to dump the risk on YOU).

    That said, how to explain it? A: THE PLAN IS IN ARGENTINA. As often done, the big fish grab a random country, then beta test things by forcing it down their throats. Argentina was poof! Picked up, owned, directed by Wall Street. …But for a change is NOT meant to destroy it. It’s meant to beta-test FIXING it. Also why it makes no sense and is mostly out of the news. (no one knows if it will fail, and we don’t want to advertise that) Okay, is it working?

    Well, sorta, yeah. You don’t get out of a 100-year hole you’re digging for nothing, but it’s not too bad. It’s been worse. (Under So—-…nevermind) He erased, what, 5 of 19 Federal Departments? So the people can work again? Yes, that caused big problems but as the incomes from government dropped they picked up in real productive work, which sucked but. It’s like defaulting on your credit cards, corporate restructuring, yes, you get a hit from no debt spending, but also you’re no longer sapping interest payments. Then what? As that stabilized he used their gold for collateral, that is, he’s already re-floating the country OUT of bankruptcy, as if defaulting then tapping his home equity. Is that bad? The villains got hold of his gold, will sell it out to rig the price and never give it back? Meh. Argentina is stacked full of gold coast to coast. We’ll sue for it, but go ahead and steal it, we’ll mine more. It’s more important to have those mines WORKING, we can make 10x what is stolen if they are.

    Any of this sound familiar? Trump is here to oversee our BANKRUPTCY. Hear anything about cutting departments, re-setting pensions from State model to private model? Cutting costs? Reducing regulation? Getting people back to work? Argentina.

    Yes, this CAN work. But you need the support of the people AND it will be d—n hard and no fun at all. But that’s what happens when you’ve spent all the money and burned all the furniture; I can’t help that part.

    Here’s your Run on it: “Argentina’s First Budget Surplus in 123 Years” OVERNIGHT. Took two seconds and a napkin to fix.

    Argentina’s First Budget Surplus in 123 Years

    “America’s government-run school system is failing…

    In a memorable April 1995 video, Apple founder Steve Jobs declared, “The unions are the worst thing that ever happened to education because it’s not a meritocracy. It turns into a bureaucracy, which is exactly what has happened. The teachers can’t teach, and administrators run the place, and nobody can be fired. It’s terrible….”

    And you want to keep this government going? No. It’s like a 90% sap on the nation, preventing all work nationwide. They are the education PREVENTION team at this point. Having NOTHING AT ALL is a 30% improvement AND no taxes for it.

    “The NAEP in 2022 also disclosed that just 13% of 8th graders met proficiency standards for U.S. history, meaning they could explain major themes, periods, events, people, ideas, and turning points in the country’s history. Additionally, about 20% of students scored at or above the proficient level in civics.”

    Total accident, I’m sure. But we shouldn’t cut the DoE or nothin’. And when we see derailments and bridge failures, nothin’. AND when we see disasters in Red states…nothin’. I can give you “Nothing” for perfectly free!!!
    “You Get Nothing” is super-easy. No need to pay $1 Trillion/year for it. Healthcare is this x10, if that can even be believed.

    Then you see how EASY it is to “balance the budget” – or at least improve it 70% — and not hard at all. All this was put on us, exclusively and only to cripple us. So? If you have a big alien parasite on you back, take it off. You may be sick as well, but no way to know until the parasite is removed and you have normal motor function again.

    Can this be done? These problems, Venezuelan Gangs, are intractable!

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    Whoops! Guess not. Guess if you try…um…ANYTHING AT ALL, it works? What did the geniuses in El Sal do? A: Put criminals in jail. You can DO that? That works?

    So what you’re saying is, it’s all a plan, all our problems are voluntary and intentional?

    “Argentina’s First Budget Surplus in 123 Years”

    Argentina’s First Budget Surplus in 123 Years

    Argentina is being run as a beta test for Team Trump. Of course it’s shotgun-fast and they’ve never done anything good, tried to build anything instead of destroy before, but here are some results.

    “Milei has already eliminated useless agencies such as the Ministry of Culture, Ministry of Health, Ministry of Labor, and Ministry of Social Development. In his words, Argentina is currently a poor country and cannot afford these departments that do absolutely nothing to improve the nation’s economic conditions. He has cut the Cabinet in half and no one has noticed a difference.

    Milei removed price controls and devalued the currency by 54%. Transport and fuel subsidies were eliminated. It was noted that these measures would at first hurt PPP before the economy could begin to heal. Imagine inflation cooling in February at 276% — the situation was dire. The International Monetary Fund awarded Argentina a $44 billion credit program. The nation is beginning to stabilize very slowly, and it took decades of deteriorating economic conditions for someone to come in and clean house.”

    It’s not magic, but any hole you can dig, you can un-dig. Just just TRY. Like El Salvador, they just say it’s impossible because weak countries are easier to rob than strong ones. Economic Hit Man. Disaster Capitalism. Anyway, this is the Trump plan.

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    Dr. D
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    “I will leave in what RT covers better. It’s not propaganda, it’s a good news service, and Margarita Simonyan is an excellent Editor-in-Chief”

    Yes, but since all her writers are from NPR, are you sure she isn’t too far Left? Too pro-American? They certainly hate Russia a lot.

    “US President-elect Donald Trump plans to issue more than 25 executive orders on his first day in office, “dramatically” reshaping a number of government policies,”

    Okay, and they just ignored everything he said and arrested him last time. Why not this time? A: I know they won’t, they’re not going to, but no one has told me WHY they won’t this time. What changed that the Bureaucracy is an employee and not the ruler now? Who changed that?

    I appreciate the birthright citizenship one. No other nation on earth does that, nor has EVER done that, not even Rome, fully. At the very least, you think we can PASS A LAW and DISCUSS it first? Yes, that was never passed. It was magic wand into existence as an implication of an unrelated line. Anyone ask? No. We know what to ask and not to ask BEFORE we ask. Somehow there is “a Memo” and it telepathies into our heads as fact, fully formed as Venus. Congress can’t figure out how to stop that when it was never passed in the first place? Puh-lease. Then maybe pass Roe-Wade after 50 years? Which the USSC just begged you to last year, since passing laws is your only job? Nope.

    “• Trump Likely To Leave Ukraine With Financial Black Hole – NYT (RT)

    WTF? What the actual does that sentence even mean? So there’s a country on the planet with a budget problem and “Team America: World Police” leaps into the breach of all nations with a checkbook?!? IDGAF about the budget holes of unrelated nations, GFY. So you have a budget hole when I JUST gave you a $200 BILLION dollar allowance? What did you do with THAT money, sonny-boy? (A: none of it is in Ukraine. It’s in the Democratic Party, just like FTX)

    “Trump also cited Wray’s initial claim that his ear was struck by shrapnel instead of an assassin’s bullet, and waning public respect for the FBI as an institution”

    What assassination? Somebody asked, “hey, why do we know more about the killing of a CEO in one week than the Assassin of Trump after half a year?”

    Huh. Funny old world. (Don’t worry, we may not know anything about Crooks, but everything we know about Luigi seems false.)

    ““There’s a lot of good sheriffs that really could help him clean Washington, D.C., up, but the FBI is way too lawfare, way too weaponized and way too corrupt.”

    Yes but only since 1920 when it was born. And only since FDR and J Edgar, the very first Director. It’s been all downhill from there.

    “Trump has called for keeping the U.S. out of the conflict entirely and signaled that the Assad regime’s collapse should bring Russian President Vladimir Putin to the table to end the war in Ukraine as well.”

    Deal and deal. However, what’s this quote which is a high-level policy decision? A: END OF THE NEOCONS. We’re staying out of it, out of anything we can. I know it won’t feel like it, with little-boy Rubio in there, etc, but it will wash out that way.

    ““Trump remains unbothered by [Tulsi] meeting with Assad.”

    So like, Congressmen shouldn’t talk to people? Only lobbyists? That was that panicked headline last week: “DC in fury: how do you LOBBY a guy like Elon Musk??”. So. This? Is your problem with him? This? I think I understand all now. Aaaaaaand you’re fired.

    Also diplomats like Flynn should ALSO not talk to anyone…you know, diplomatic. Arrestable offense. Out by President’s own pick and nomination, in the FBI, DoJ.

    • Euroclear Warns Of Risks If Russian Assets Seized (RT)

    What risks? The Euro will collapse and the US$ will stop being the world currency, which is what we want. The US can’t be an Empire? Oh noes.

    “Ukraine theoretically is expected to repay the multibillion-dollar G7 loan over 40 years.”

    Great! Then you will all collapse and die. So sorry.

    “• Nothing Will Be Left Of Frozen Russian Funds – EU’s Kallas (RT)

    And therefore nothing will be left of her country. Estonia will be ring-fenced when Russia owns the whole neighborhood and Europe collapses.

    “• Liberal World Order Is Over – Orban (RT)

    It’s too bad because they are liars and attack language first, the “Liberalism” will finally be established when the “Liberal Order” is destroyed. They said it, therefore it’s the #Opposite.

    “agricultural tractor from 1937 that still works”

    1937 is still kind of new. All tractors from 1937 till work. Lanz has an extremely unique motor though.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanz_Bulldog Until 1958

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmall 1938. This is where you had enough steel, gas, gas stations, gear manufacturing, tolerances, and financing to all work together. And that’s during the Depression.

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    Oroboros
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    Spoken by The Man of the Hour

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    Oroboros
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    Oroboros
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    Some Holiday Cheer Kids!

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    Oroboros
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    Oroboros
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    Oroboros
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    #176714
    Oroboros
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    Yes

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    #176715
    Oroboros
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    Don’t you find it Phucking Amazing the ‘healthcare’ CEOs will do anything including medically MURDERING people to jack their compensation bottom line but Disney and Netflix CEOs will do anything to demolish their bottom lines?

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    Oroboros
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    Hahahahahahahaha

    People have been acting weirder and weider in public. Mass Brain Rot (MBR)

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    Oroboros
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    X is now like a Somali Pirate

    Hahahahahahaha!

    True Dat!

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    Oroboros
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    #176719
    Oroboros
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    Not online

    Dating Pro Tip:

    Yes

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    Oroboros
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    Another Related Pro Tip

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    #176721
    zerosum
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    Tariff/sanctions strategy among friends. Always works.
    + My sell price vs Your sell price = Lower sales, Higher Prices, and Misery for everyone

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    executive orders
    “..plans to issue more than 25 executive orders on his first day in office..”
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    Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said, “I mean having, this is what I love so much about President Trump’s elections, is he is putting people in these cabinet agencies, nominating people who have the attitude the American people elected, that American people voted for, which is we’re going to go serve the people, protect their liberties, make government actually more efficient smaller, working for the country and protecting their rights.”
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    Creative bookkeeping is not stealing
    On Tuesday, the White House approved the transfer of some $20 billion to Ukraine in the form of a loan to be repaid using the interest generated by Russia’s frozen central bank assets.
    The loan is part of a broader $50 billion deal devised earlier by the G7 countries, which also includes a $20 billion EU commitment and another $10 billion to be split by the UK, Japan, and Canada.
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    https://swentr.site/news/609196-euroclear-ceo-russian-assets-liability/
    • Euroclear Warns Of Risks If Russian Assets Seized (RT)

    Belgium-based clearinghouse Euroclear, which holds the bulk of Russia’s frozen assets frozen by the West, has warned it does not want to be held liable if the EU confiscates the funds and hands them over to Ukraine.

    Euroclear froze an estimated €197 billion ($213 billion) in assets belonging to the Russian central bank as part of Ukraine-related sanctions ordered by the EU.
    The frozen assets generated €5.15 billion in interest in the first three quarters of this fiscal year.
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    https://swentr.site/news/609194-russia-us-loan-ukraine/
    • US Loan To Ukraine ‘Theft’ Of Russian Money – Deputy FM (RT)

    The International Monetary Fund has also warned that any decisions regarding the seizure of frozen Russian assets should be backed with “sufficient legal support,” noting that without this, the move could undermine trust in the Western financial system.

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    https://swentr.site/news/609183-orban-liberal-world-order/
    • Liberal World Order Is Over – Orban (RT)

    Budapest claims that the West’s response to the Ukraine conflict, including its attempts to punish Russia with economic sanctions, has caused a decline in living standards and other problems in Europe.
    Unlike other national leaders, who intend to support Kiev “for as long as it takes” to defeat Moscow, Orban has refused to send any military assistance and has attempted to mediate peace talks.
    Earlier this year, the prime minister made visits to Ukraine, Russia, China and the US during what he called a peace tour in a bid to facilitate negotiations.
    Orban expects US President-elect Donald Trump, whom he supports, to bring about radical changes on Ukraine after he is inaugurated in January.
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    #176722
    Oroboros
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    Humanity is approaching the Useless Eater Event Horizon vis-à-vis AI

    AI really is an incarnation of Skynet

    Musk did the near impossible effectively gang joining 100K really quite powerful processors into a Borg Mind.

    Practically speaking however, the still remains some rough spots…..

    The Rise of the Machines

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    Oroboros
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    #176724
    Oroboros
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    Poland was partitioned in the 1700’s and in the 1930″s

    The Polish nation and government simply vanished

    The same Fate awaits Syria

    The partitioning of Syria will proceed as a precursor to a New Ottoman Empire.

    Eygpt is next. The Muslim Brother wants to revive the Otto Empire

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    Oroboros
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    The head choppers are going to kill the Christians in Syria

    At least 100,000 will be killed over this next year.

    Turkey has given the silent nod.

    The Western Media Whores will look the other way and not mention it.

    This will bring the very large Turkish military closer to the borders of IsRealHell than ever before in history

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    #176728
    John Day
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    @Mr. House, from late show yesterday.
    I did read Ellen Brown’s piece fully. She wrote it for Scheerpost, and Global Research picked it up.
    She’s no spring chicken, and it is an intricate and arcane topic, “money”, and economy and resets.

    You mention wealth-redistribution pejoratively, but what now exists is something like 7:1 of “valid” claims-on-wealth to actual, physical material wealth, so “assignment of losses”, a favorite term of Nicole Foss’ is a better way to conceive of it.
    Losses will be assigned to the dead, for sure. That one is progressing with COVID-shots and wars.
    Amongst the living, assignment-of-losses is very difficult. Retirees can be assigned losses to a point, as can the middling-wealthy, but the rich & powerful will usually have to be convinced that they will lose the most if society fractures, or they won’t support society.
    This is where adept political negotiators can actually be useful to society, in setting a new distribution of wealth-sharing and actual productivity, which maximizes societal wealth under new prevailing conditions, which I foresee as declining energy resources globally, and the end of unipolar-hegemony.

    You might prefer this: Defusing the Derivatives Time Bomb: Some Proposed Solutions

    Defusing the Derivatives Time Bomb: Some Proposed Solutions

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    John Day
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    In yer face:
    Rep. Brian Mast, Who Wears His IDF Uniform to Congress, to be Next House Foreign Affairs Chair
    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64772

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    zerosum
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    White Noise. Next, Look for it. Hillary.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-announces-largest-one-day-act-clemency-history-pardons-39-commutes-1500-sentences
    Biden Announces Largest One-Day Act Of Clemency In History: Pardons 39, Commutes 1,500 Sentences

    by Tyler Durden
    Thursday, Dec 12, 2024 – 08:00 AM
    By Zachary Stieber of Epoch Times

    President Joe Biden on Dec. 12 announced he was pardoning 39 people and commuting the sentences of nearly 1,500 others, in the largest single-day act of clemency in history.
    The pardons are going to individuals who were convicted of nonviolent crimes such as drug offenses, the White House said. Those who are having their sentences commuted were placed in home confinement during the COVID-19 pandemic and “have successfully reintegrated into their families and communities,” according to the White House.

    “America was built on the promise of possibility and second chances,” Biden said in a statement. “As President, I have the great privilege of extending mercy to people who have demonstrated remorse and rehabilitation, restoring opportunity for Americans to participate in daily life and contribute to their communities, and taking steps to remove sentencing disparities for non-violent offenders, especially those convicted of drug offenses.”

    Officials did not release the names of any of the individuals being granted relief.

    They said the people include a nurse who helped spearhead COVID-19 vaccination efforts, an addiction counselor who volunteers to help young people, and a military veteran who assists frail, fellow church members.

    Biden made the move after pardoning his son, Hunter Biden, who was convicted of illegal possession of a firearm and pleaded guilty to intentionally not paying taxes.

    Biden is set to leave office on Jan. 20, 2025, after he bowed out of his bid for reelection. President-elect Donald Trump beat Vice President Kamala Harris in the November race.

    At this point in his presidency, Biden has already commuted more sentences than his recent predecessors, including Trump. He has also issued categorical pardons to people convicted of using or possessing marijuana, and former military members convicted of consensual sodomy.
    The White House said that before Biden leaves office he “will take additional steps to provide meaningful second chances and continue to review additional pardons and commutations.”
    The White House added that “there is more to come.”

    Lawmakers had not yet reacted to the new pardons and commutations by the time of publication.

    Biden has received criticism for pardoning his son, especially because jurors cast a verdict in one of the cases.

    The White House has defended the move, which took place after the president and the White House said a pardon for Hunter Biden would not happen.

    Biden has also been reportedly considering pre-pardons for certain individuals whom a second Trump administration may investigate. Former President Bill Clinton said this week that he hoped Biden does not issue pre-pardons.
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14183261/Bill-Clinton-biden-pardon-hillary-trump.html
    Bill Clinton on Wednesday said he was willing to talk to President Joe Biden about a presumptive pardon for wife Hillary Clinton in case President-elect Donald Trump would try to lock her up.
    Bill Clinton, during an appearance on ABC’s The View, called any potential targeting of his wife a ‘fool’s errand.’
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    #176731
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Richard D. Wolff & Michael Hudson:
    The Desperation of America’s Empire at Its Peak!

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    zerosum
    Participant

    https://cha.house.gov/2024/11/dod-inspector-general-concealed-january-6-evidence#:~:text=The%20DoD%20IG%27s%20report%20reflects,the%20DCNG%20on%20January%206.

    Press Releases
    Home Media Press Releases
    DoD Inspector General Concealed January 6 Evidence
    November 21, 2024

    Throughout our investigation, our Subcommittee has found significant irregularities in the DoD IG report, including statements attributed to witnesses who subsequently informed the Subcommittee that the witness did not make these statements, as well as glaring inconsistencies regarding the deployment of the D.C. National Guard (DCNG).
    From our review of phone records, timelines, firsthand accounts, sworn testimonies, and after-action reports, there is considerable evidence pointing to an intentional delay at the DoD in either deploying the National Guard, or communicating the deployment order.
    To address the communication and security gaps experienced on January 6, 2021 between the DoD and Congress, the Subcommittee continues to pursue the transparency the American people deserve.

    Therefore, we are left with no choice but to reject Report No. 2022-039 and request that you publish a formal correction on behalf of the 10,43220 21 congressional staff members and 535 Members of Congress who donned gas masks and retreated from their Chambers while the DCNG sat on buses waiting, less than 2 miles from the Capitol at the D.C. Armory, for communication from Secretary Ryan McCarthy.

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    Dr D Rich
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    Courtesy A.anglin

    Where is my O•possum hero in my month 33 of seronegative neuroborreliosis?

    https://dailystormer.in/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/121224dailystormermeme83.png

    Do y’all think President Xi Jinping accepts Donald’s invitation and attends The 2nd Trump Inauguration?
    A couple local heads will explode in the advent of Xi, I bet.

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    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @JohnDay

    In your face.

    Wow. If THAT ( https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64772 ) kind of subservient alliance with evil incarnate is the price of Empire then I say fuck the Empire, and Trump with it.

    #176738
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Let’s simplify the “Drones Over New Jersey” question down to the irreducibly basic questions of what ARE the drones, and WHO do they belong to

    As of the present, the government unequivocally states that a) They don’t know what they are, b) they also don’t know who sent them, and c) that the drones pose no threat to the public.

    Let’s ignore the idiotically self-contradictory nature of the last statement ( c) ) for the moment and focus on statements a) and b)

    Either the Government actually does know what they are, and who they belong to, so is simply lying about not knowing, OR they genuinely don’t know jack shit or fuckall about any of it, in which case it’s worse than asinine to claim that the Drone/UFO/Thingies poses no danger to anyone.

    In EITHER case it is absolutely and undeniably obvious to any sentient being that the position the government is taking is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE.

    I give it a little bit under a week for that fact to sink in, because when it DOES sink in there are going to be fireworks, figuratively at least certainly and quite possibly literally as well.

    #176739
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Hmmm, I just squirmed through an agonizing 5 minutes of John Kirby weaseling, oozing, lying, evading, double-speaking, side stepping and fumble fucking his way through NOT answering even one damned question about the UFO’s over New Jersey. . . while insisting that they posed no threat or danger to anyone. It was PAINFUL, but I did so that you don’t have to.

    The bottom line is the Feds have told us their bullshit story and are sticking to it.

    I know that is hard to fathom, but it is just the way it is. The Gov says they don’t know nuthin’ but are working hard to continue knowing nothing, but not to worry because there is no danger.

    I think I’ll revise my estimate of one week before the debacle blows sky high (pun intended). I now give it ’til Friday.

    #176740
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    By the way, it should be transparently obvious that this tension-building ploy is deliberate and intentional. The current regime is doing its damnedest to scare the shit out of people and start a panic. This is way worse than yelling fire in a crowded theater. This is pumping smoke and special effects into the theater first, then locking the doors, and THEN yelling fire.

    Project Blue Book, maybe, or is it just plain old normal chaos wreaking?

    #176741
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    The East Coast drone ‘invasion’ has been on the periphery of my radar, but every time I click on an interesting link to see what they’ve got I get nothing but talk and fuzzy pictures. Don’t any of these knuckleheads own a telescope or telephoto lens? If it is an ‘invasion’ as they say, then there should be some hard data after this length of time. Hmmm. It doesn’t smell too good right now, and my time is precious.

    As for Project Blue Book, this was always a red herring for the public to focus on to take the pressure of the Air Force and other agencies. Blue Book ran interference. Its job was PR and misdirection. All the good stuff was handled through other channels and MJ12. The public is so gullible. Hey, are you talkin’ to me?

    Anyway, I haven’t seen anything about the drone story that leads me to believe it’s ET related. Show me noiseless supersonic flight, right angle turns, instant acceleration up into space, trans medium capability, mother ship deployments, arc welder brightness, flying cattle, something. Then, maybe I’ll turn my head and look.

    #176742
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Word. Total Bulls–t. Every one.

    Why? It was published, therefore it’s bulls–t. It’s false.

    Okay, simpletons: You don’t know WHAT the drones are. Okay. You definitely know they’re not dangerous. Uh-huh. Nevermind, see edict #1, moving on.

    DO THESE DRONES COME FROM ANYWHERE OR ALSO GO TO ANYWHERE?

    That is, do they come off the non-existent Iranian “Mothership” (Note that word) that every Navy, every radar, every waterski boat says is NOT off the coast? No? Do they, uh, pop out of the top of Avengers Tower in downtown Manhattan? Do they….come from underwater? Outer space?

    Okay, when they’re tired, where do they go TO? Do they crash land and turn into Mexican Flan? Do they…break into Lego parts? Do they…open a wormhole and transport to the Mojoverse dimension?

    Jesus H Christ on a pogo stick, you could be dumb as a post or lie the s–t out of every word and still know THAT thing. It’s god d—ned unavoidable.

    So again, IF they are unknown, THEN you guys suck OF COURSE they must be seen as a threat NOT because they are alien, but because therefore we assume they are NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT Alien. They are North Korean, Russian, Chinese. Or worse: Canadian.

    BUT. All these things. Sooooooo, no one in the greater NY metro area has a TELESCOPE all 25 million people of them, even though EVERYONE has a telescope (home users) who can see a stop sign on the surface of the moon. Suuuuuuuure pal, sure. Gotcha. Roger dodger.

    And the US mIlitary plus NOAA and NASA, plus Elon Musk have even far less than that.

    Yup! I don’t see any totally fake alien invasion, shaping up, right on schedule, when they’re going broke and running out of tricks, just as we’ve been told would happen for 50 years.

    Alien ships: hoering. Come from No where. Go to No Where. They just appear and disappear during commercial breaks, off camera, in the bushes, like Jason in Friday the 13th. The camera is pointed the other way. WE MAKE SURE OF IT.

    I. Am Going. To. Die. Of Stupid.

    #176743
    zerosum
    Participant

    Those drones are invisible to the aircraft control radar systems.
    That is why they operate with flashing lights.
    😉

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