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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle June 17 2024 #161349

    one last thought on the declining population and AI. When eugenicists and population reduction proponents are those developing artificial intelligence the basic learning codes have that foundation.
    An EXCLUSIVE right to life.
    Look in the mirror and tell yourself you are not a useless eater.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 17 2024 #161345

    Oroboros, environmental conditions are known to influence reproductive success on the Blue Marble. Homogeniety within human societies, with the advent of hand held personality killers, is ardently pursued in modern society. Tribalism run amok has become an environmental factor.
    The distribution of physical resources is no longer natural. Famine has become merely a cost in a global market.
    Consumption as the goal of existence has become an environmental factor in the globalized culture.
    How many identical individuals are required to sustain a population?
    The selection process for life on the Blue Marble is not a factor of human intelligence. Does the Blue Marble really need a species that uses it’s barefooted children to mine cobalt so a gas necessary for life can be reduced in the atmosphere? Lovelock and the Gaia hypothesis has some merit.

    Invictus (Henley) be damned.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 17 2024 #161344

    One of her best quotes is, “According to how history is currently written”. It summarizes all you need to understand about research of history. We simply do not know all the facts and politics plays a major role on how history is being written. – Malinen

    How much traction do you think this will have?
    bout as much as slick tires on a iced over bridge

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 16 2024 #161294

    For anyone curious:
    watch as much of this – A Secret too Terrible To be Told – Nick Pope – 2024 – on Youtube as you can stomach. Start viewing about 14:25. UAP and AI from a trending toward acceptable insider mainstream perspective.

    does all of humanity have such feelings of insecurity and inferiority? If so, the UAP are collecting the keys to the insane asylum.

    So remember when you’re feeling very small and insecure
    How amazingly unlikely is your birth
    And pray that there’s intelligent life somewhere up in space
    ‘Cause there’s bugger all down here on earth – Du Prez/Idle

    As Dylan wrote – “You Ain’t Going Nowhere”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 16 2024 #161277

    Given super intelligence will emerge from AI. Will all data be available for learning? In the event all information becomes available for learning a few questions.

    1. How will the emotional, cultural attachments to tradition be instilled?
    2. Within what time frame will calculations about the real amount and distribution of water and mineral resources be made?
    3. How will human abstractions, such as the concept of beauty or value, be sorted in relation to new understanding of the nature of the physical universe?
    4. When self interest arises, as conjectured, and the value and necessity of the microbiome for life emerges will ecosophia overcome the profit motive?
    5. The concept of human dominion, manifest destiny writ large, is present in the history of humanity. How will this information be processed?
    6. When the ability to measure real contributions to the earth’s ecosphere is achieved why would a super intelligence rate artic krill with a lower value than humanity for the sustenance of life?

    The profit motive as currently understood in the globalist mind will be extinguished. Staking the future on the belief greed will overcome logic is playing handgun roulette with a cartridge in all cylinders.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 15 2024 #161227

    buffoons..planning a big draft…

    take the context of the word buffoon this morning and then consider how a voice vote moves portions of a bill through the appropriations mechanism of The House of Representatives.

    We have an amendment before us this morning that will expand the necessary databasing of our human capital. All, eventually, men will be registered as preparation for the planned state of national defense. The registration process will advance as local registration boards and the reporting process are redrawn from historical models. This amendment provides the benefit of defining the logistics of the supply chain for materials necessary for the national defense. Experience hath shown that the small loss of liberty afforded to registration and mobilization returns major benefits to the defense of the nation.

    The majority chair of this committee has chosen a voice vote for this amendment give voice:


    The amendment is approved

    this morning you found out your grandchildrens future was vaporized with a voice vote. Do have a path that you will recommend to your sons and grandson? Cracker does

    Fire up the youtube, search and immediately start posting the url to videos of the antiwar protests of the twentieth century United States. Talk to all of your friends in the military and together give notice that you, citizens of the United States, will reject unlawful orders.
    Refuse to register, support your friends already enlisted. Our nation must have a defense, unite with those in service. You cannot trust your future to the buffoons planning a big draft. This is your nation, it is in your hands.
    Not NO – HELL NO
    Think of Kid Rock’s beer marketing commercial.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 14 2024 #161168

    how many ways can one say we are lying to ourselves?
    how many time does it need to be said?

    chemical weapons used in the Korean Conflict – c’mon man, no way
    a naturally occuring virus – well thats what the experts say
    someone who supports Israel is going to save the world – please hand me my flying pigs net

    who cares about someone’s short pole fishing trips? Oh yeah, enquiring minds want to know
    who cares about lead in childrens drinking water? not someone who cares about short pole fishing trips
    a Hush Fund here and a Hush Fund there and before you know it short pole fishing does not exist.

    “over harvesting of snapper in the murky waters of a national capitol continues unabated”
    Lets go to our reporter, Barely Buxom, on the scene:
    “Dip, Authorities say there is no reason for concern as Betty White has assured us “Those things can take a beating”. back to you pencil neck pinhead!

    all reference to Timex watches has been omitted in a effort to maintain propriety

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 14 2024 #161165

    Trouble Every Day
    [Verse 1]
    Well I’m about to get upset from watchin’ my TV
    Checkin’ out the news until my eyeballs fail to see
    I mean to say that every day is just another rotten mess
    And when it’s gonna change, my friend, is anybody’s guess

    So I’m watchin’ and I’m waitin’, hopin’ for the best
    Even think I’ll go to prayin’ every time I hear ’em sayin’
    That there’s no way to delay that trouble comin’ every day
    No way to delay that trouble comin’ every day – Zappa 1965

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 14 2024 #161164

    remember at the outset of the SMO in Ukraine one of the big western positions was Russia could not compete on the media narrative front?

    ” Moscow should “obliterate their energy infrastructure, industry, transport, banking and social services. Instil fear over an imminent collapse of all critical infrastructure,” – Medvedev

    what do you think the response will be to this? Is everything on Mr. Medvedev’s list part of the train wreck currently underway in the US? Will the current power brokers alter the current path or double down on maintaining dominance? Will less be contributed to the permanent war and more allocated to repairing and rebuilding infrastructure?

    Plant a single thought in the minds of a society and the leadership of a nation and allow them to accelerate their own demise as more resources are diverted away from critical infrastructure to maintaining and increasing control over wealth in the name of countering an implied threat.

    make your assessment – Stoltenberg and Austin or Gerasimov and Shoigu, Medvedev or Obama

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 13 2024 #161076

    “There’s a lot of things wrong with this country, but one of the few things still right with it is that a man can steer clear of the organized bullshit if he really wants to. It’s a goddamned luxury, and if I were you, I’d take advantage of it while you can.” ~ Hunter S. Thompson

    “As your attorney, it is my duty to inform you that it is not important that you understand what I’m doing or why you’re paying me so much money. What’s important is that you continue to do so.” ~ Hunter S. Thompson

    go pro!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 13 2024 #161074

    Obama – 2009

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 13 2024 #161072

    America’s New Majority Project – Gingrich
    Contract With America – Gingrich

    would like to thank the usual suspects for pointing out how out of touch they are two days ago.

    Project for the New American Century – 1997
    sounded rational then, did it not? Did you have a US Stars and Stripes lapel pin?
    Tea Party – 2009
    want to talk about clueless?
    MAGA – 2016
    had to admit the US wasn’t all peaches and cream to buy into that
    MAGA – 2024
    twenty seven years of mind numbing perspicacity
    the muckrakers – denizens of yellow journalism – 1890 – 1920
    The Jungle – 1905
    it all started with Obama elected in 2007.

    were you one of those who bought in to the Assange sexual predator BS?

    any way, thank you again

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 10 2024 #160905

    at wits end i will leave you to your thoughts for a few days

    Each man’s death diminishes me,For I am involved in mankind. – Donne

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 10 2024 #160902

    Newton’s First Law of Motion distilled: An equal or greater force.
    Hoo-hoo that smell
    Can’t you smell that smell?
    Hoo-hoo that smell
    The smell of death around you – Van Zant/Collins

    “We should not forget, they are a minority – the Collective West… their worldview is shared by no one except for them,” – Zakharova

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 9 2024 #160871

    why do i always have the feeling that no one here grew up in a society that constantly warned about “sympathizers”, “dupes” and “fellow travelers”? Why does no one think the example made of the Rosenbergs left a lasting impression on The Greatest Generation, and their children?

    i do not know if children in the Soviet Union grew up being taught to hide under their desk next to a wall full of glass windows as protection from a nuclear blast. The desks that i sat in between first and third grades were roughly equidistant from Mayport and Naval Air Station Jacksonville. I knew that. Having access to a bag of M-80s and Cherry Bombs i had a working knowledge of small explosives. Sitting unprotected under those desks was not going to be any protection from shards of flying glass.
    I knew where every bomb shelter dug into the ground was within five miles of my home by the time i was in the fifth grade. My father and i were members of our community American Legion. I knew bullshit when i heard it and saw it.
    A free society needs national security secrets to remain free. I knew that was bullshit from jump street. I knew about the School of the Americas – 1946(Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation – 2001) before i graduated high school.

    if someone with my less than stunning intellectual capacity could know these things don’t plead ignorance with me.
    Ritter, Johnson, MacGregor all took national security oaths. You think they are telling you anything that has not been approved for public consumption? Do you think pulling Ritter off the flight was not orchestrated? Is Ritter incarcerated? No. Then he did not violate his national security oath. Once a commissioned officer, always a commissioned officer. Have you never heard “Need to Know”? Do you know the president of the US does not have the highest security clearance? Need to know and plausible deniability go hand in hand.

    I don’t want to know and need to know are different animals. Proving the Noble Experiment true is far more important than “I don’t want to know”.

    “Who are you talking to? We Americans already know this.”
    we just won’t act on it – “…we might as well indulge in it, and I’ll see what I can get. …”

    lady of the house says the yard looks “Nice”. Take your victories as you find them

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 9 2024 #160847

    maybe consider, Međugorska Gospa

    peace be with you

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 9 2024 #160846

    a rather dark paraphrase:
    of course we have to kill those babies, Aunt Bessie will lose her job if we don’t.

    “even if youre OK with the amorality of it, it’s short sighted” – Massie
    even if your’e OK with the amorality of it? Got to kick my cynicism up a couple of notches

    “it’s Five O’Clock somewhere” – Buffett

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 9 2024 #160844

    Massie on motus operandi of. US governance and corruption via the medium of debt:

    “…we might as well indulge in it, and I’ll see what I can get. …”

    What if an entire culture has that mind set? Impossible!!!!! don’t you read the comments @ TAE?

    after all:
    “What a piece of work is man…”
    just an emotional opinion of course and the skim has nothing to do with it

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 8 2024 #160772

    kids, thank you for that reference. Learned something new this morning, going to be a good day!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 8 2024 #160771

    Dr. D do you have a mirror in your house?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 8 2024 #160769

    The horror of Vietnam was already being instigated a year before i was born. Eisenhower was the only man alive who could warn against the MIC and remain alive. The response of the body politic was to “see the USA in your Chevrolet”. Eisenhower did not say the MIC already had the United States by the throat and was a clear and present danger. Not even Ike could have survived that. Who reads this and knows who Ida Tarbell was and when the foundation of the MIC was laid?
    The revolution that conceived the Constitution of the United States remains at the pinnacle of human endeavor. Trading comfort for liberty is not a sign of intellectual rigor. THE REVOLUTION against the status quo.

    “This all started with Obama”
    S.O.B. Give me a drink

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 8 2024 #160766

    DDR – “Is “doesn’t hold back” a diplomatic way of saying bloviating blowhard?”
    Monetizing fiasco and amoral catastrophe, the lot of them
    Judge, Johnson, Ritter, Duran and the list goes on. egocentric sphincters doing a Pontius Pilate and then sending the truth to be scourged and crucified.

    “McCabe and his motley crew should be fired and publicly humiliated for being cowards”
    They should be given the option of being hung or shot. “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 8 2024 #160765

    if you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime

    “FBI agents fear being jailed by Trump” – displaced criminal McCabe
    Andrew McCabe has suggested that former intel and law enforcement officials may have to flee the country.

    Assange the bastards

    A Dime A Dozen
    Wanted Dead or Alive

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 7 2024 #160694

    aspnaz did you read or do you remember Mr. Putin’s statement about martyrs at Valdai years ago? Assured global destruction is, to my understanding, the position of The Russian Federation. No winner, no loser no threats remaining.
    By the by the text of Mr. Putin’s message has been scrubbed from basic searches.

    Oroboros do you remember the ending to Hemingway’s Islands In The Stream?

    The circles on Martyanov’s map are not centered on Cuba. The blue line represents a transatlantic route. The circles represent the range of sea launched missles.

    Shooting down ICBMs at launch is a better shot from the Pacific coast.
    Mirved hypersonic glide re-entry vehicles cannot be defended against.
    What would your response be if you noted all of the Gulf Streams suddenly becoming airborne and navigating toward assumed safe places? What good is a bunker if one cannot access it.

    People of the Rus seem to have a lot in common with the salt of the earth from my region of the US.
    “Fuck around and find out!!!!!” spoken with a curled upper lip.

    Mr. Putin’s perspective that all of the talk of nuclear weapons is for the western proles is logical. A series of EMP blasts at geosynchronous orbits combined with a few seabed cable cuts would make the current version of the US unrecognizable. SWIFT that.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 7 2024 #160683

    Erato, Muse of Poetry – could be a portrait of my daughter

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 7 2024 #160680

    the heels on your Ruby shoes

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 7 2024 #160679

    want to create a list of criminals? Start with a list of US Secretaries of State.

    why does Comer keep pretending $250,000.00 is a large sum of money? Biden is a chump and if that is it, that is chump change.

    click your heels three times and repeat – I Got Mine

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 6 2024 #160583

    The Constitution of The United States IS the hope for equal rights and justice. Will you squander your hope for a pocketful of mumbles that gives you the opportunity to be a house slave?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 6 2024 #160582

    “… I have always dreamed about a Europe of pluralism, a Europe of freedom, constitution, art,” she told the meeting, adding that Europe has “lost its soul, it is dead.” – Karin Kneissl

    “Americans Are an Abused People” – Roberts

    1. Western Europe is not dead. The historical Western Europe has once again risen to IT’S feet. Simply believing you are noble does not make you noble. Do you doubt that Charles Manson and Theodore John Kaczynski, Unabomber, thought they were noble? Do you doubt the people of France believe they are more noble than the people of Niger? They, the people of France, have nuclear powered electricity and what to the people of Niger have? The people of Niger have Simon Legree. Ms. Kneissl’s dreams are lipstick on the pig.

    2. The U.S. commericial banking industry and the U.S. federal bureaucracy are only possible because there are citizens of the United States who put themselves ahead of Truth and Justice to maintain their personal standards of living. The janitors, the secretaries and the data entry workers show up everyday and work for corporations that manage the global trade in narcotics and human beings. Every single one of the Biden, Biden, Biden terrors are implemented every hour of everyday by the mass of U.S. federal employees.
    Americans are not abused people, they are sociopathic masochists. Year after year throughout my adult life those i have known that have college educations have glorified western European culture and either longed to or indeed traveled to western Europe for immersion in that culture. Western European culture as is glorified in the United States rests on a foundation of TERROR. Every piece of art that is celebrated as high western European culture was paid for by the blood of innocents. Noblesse oblige!
    One either becomes sick of being sick or remains an addict.

    “We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” ~ Benjamin Franklin

    I am just a poor boy
    Though my story’s seldom told
    I have squandered my resistance
    For a pocketful of mumbles
    Such are promises
    All lies and jest
    Still a man hears what he wants to hear
    And disregards the rest – Simon

    There is more to poverty than lack of currency.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 5 2024 #160510

    in the event Senator Kennedy’s eight million number is accurate that represents 0.023% (8/350) of the population of the United States. I guess that is meaningful when one considers we are governed by 0.1% of the population as the Occupy Wall Street movement claimed.

    the ones who don’t buy the climate crisis buy the immigration crisis and the antithesis applies
    “there are lies, damned lies and statistics” Clemmons

    the immigration is fueling a large growth in personal debt. Find a yard with four brand new pickup trucks and you have very likely found a home occupied by immigrants. The spice must flow. At least someone is working. As the housing industry goes into decline the delinquency rate in the automotive market will increase with the mirrored trajectory of the housing decline. One of my favorite short novels is Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To Me. Mucho Maas and the paregoric Pall Malls was fun to read. Describing my life using the name of a novel no one had read was always fun. C’mon man, join the fun.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 5 2024 #160505

    Wes should you ever need something described mathematically the Princeton man is the One. The finest human being i have ever known.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 5 2024 #160502

    “I don’t care who does the electing, as long as I get to do the nominating.” ~ Boss Tweed

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 5 2024 #160498

    Newt – Contract on America – Gingrich. knew things were bad when they dredged up Kissinger, now Newt. Must be worse than imagined.

    “can I have some of those purple berries?” – CS&N

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 5 2024 #160496

    ” But these are middle managers, the body-shield. If there is a smart man among them, they’d be fired.”
    “where on earth do you find guys intelligent enough to be competent (not Blinken) yet too stupid to catch on this is a mass-murder robbery-treason,
    offer them another week off with pay, a corner office with their name on the door, and a reserved parking space? make them a Manager! cultivate capricious indifference as the path to success!

    “wrote how they would commit all those felonies to make money ”
    of course, everyone knows corporate duty is only directed toward value for the shareholders, Bhopal em.
    i do not personally know anyone who graduated Harvard, yet i have known contractors and developers in the residential construction industry who, as Lowell George sang, were “Willin”

    (note of disclosure: i do know one who graduated Brown and one who graduated Princeton)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 5 2024 #160483

    EoinW – “Even the Baby Boomers aren’t that dumb.”
    you are most gracious kind sir!

    “And we are not innocent victims.” – EoinW
    “We are all just prisoners here
    Of our own device” – Eagles

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 5 2024 #160476

    beauty is in the eye of the beholder

    “So I think that what you’re going to see here is what I call an ugly russian victory.” – Mearsheimer

    “Americans should pray it never actually has to defend the United States.” – Vine/Arriola

    murder a few more children so there can be a beautiful and profitable victory?

    People say I’m crazy
    I got diamonds on the soles of my shoes, yeah
    Well, that’s one way to lose these walking blues
    Diamonds on the soles of our shoes – Simon/Shabalala

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 4 2024 #160393

    ““Almost Everything You’ve Noticed Change In America Can Be Traced Back To Barack Obama”

    what i meant to say was, read some history asshole!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 4 2024 #160392

    “Almost Everything You’ve Noticed Change In America Can Be Traced Back To Barack Obama”

    The entire history of western Europe has been played out during the last ten years on the Western Front between California and the borders of Russia. When a population reads history as the victors they are sure to read their nobility and excellence into the facts. The despotic internecine horror of the European crowns is plainly written and available to all humans on planet earth. As surely as the rebellion of the thirteen colonies and the Constitution of the United States of America was an effort to escape the mayhem of Europe there were those who desired to wear the crown present in Philadelphia in 1776. The whole purpose of the Federalist Papers was to obfuscate the fact that the crown would be present or there would be no Consitution.
    Mr. Trump is the Thomas Moore of the present moment.

    That an action is profitable does not make it noble. A culture that defines rapine as industry has always turned inward in time as lust overcomes reason. When Thoreau was incarcerated for failure to pay the poll tax Emerson asked, “Henry what are you doing in there?”. Thoreau responded, “What are you doing out there?”
    Will you stand for self governing humans building a self governing nation or will you stand with the Crown?
    Will you continue to play “Gotcha” as if counting psuedo intellectual points is meaningful or will you read history and the current moment accurately? Your life, your fortune and your sacred honor or slavery for your grandchildren, choose carefully. Change the world? Change yourself. For the love of truth and justice.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 3 2024 #160353

    The only way out is OUT. – DBS

    you can check out any time you like
    but you can never leave – Hotel California

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 3 2024 #160352

    one more from the Musk interview:
    For this scenario to work, he said(Musk), there would need to be “universal high income” – not to be confused with universal basic income, although he did not share what that could look like.

    Listen here, now, that ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it
    You play the guitar on the MTV
    That ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it
    Money for nothing, and your chicks for free – Dire Straits

    Hunter on the Board, That ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it
    Trump in the White House, and your chicks for free

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