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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle July 31 2023 #140367

    out of left field
    Has anyone here seen the video of the metallic sphere captured by a Reaper over Irag? The idea is put forward that these objects are a global phenomena. Would anyone care to offer their hypothesis concerning these objects?

    my guess – due to quantum entanglement a wholesale nuclear conflagration would be a major spanner in the works and not just locally, the mad monkeys need to be monitored.

    Blinken leaves one with the impression that Rumsfield was an intellectual giant

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 31 2023 #140366

    it is very comfortable and popular to believe that propaganda came into being in the twentieth century.
    where is Goebbels mentioned in the linked video?
    Bernays is more commonly referred to as the father of public relations. Of course public relations is the polite means to mention propaganda.
    Has no one read The Prince?
    None of the bloody intrigue that is the history of western Europe was influenced by propaganda?
    The Children’s Crusade was complete nobility and honesty?

    the bitchute film is propaganda, though the last word in the video is good advice

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 30 2023 #140320

    this thought is recurrent. A media publication must have been publishing something someone wanted to see, read or believed for them to have had any faith in journalism in the United States. Samuel Clemens made enough remarks about the press including “The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated” to dispel faith in the press to some degree. When writing The Medium is the Massage and earlier Understanding Media(1964) McCluhan was no less clairvoyant than Orwell.
    ” All media exist to invest our lives with artificial perceptions and arbitrary values.” Marshall McLuhan
    kinda like the “observation problem” in quantum mechanics

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 30 2023 #140287

    Know the White,
    but keep the Black! Lao Tzu

    friends, do you so readily abandon hope?

    what importance is there in declaring – SNAFU, or, oh no dear sir it is FUBAR, or, well it is apparent why you are both in the ditch – ?

    are you concerned because it is your dreams being demolished or the dreams of your neighbor?
    “it tolls for thee” Donne

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 29 2023 #140186

    “For centuries the Western world formed around one simple and terrifying thought: that they are exceptional because they are strong,” – “They have no need to justify anything, they must simply reap the benefits of aggressive exploitation of the planet. That is their collective reasoning.” Zakharova

    who is winning the media war? Hearts and Minds?
    Coalition of the Willing – remember that gem?
    Looking at things from a certain frame of reference the schismatics and heretics are the western Christian denominations. Flip Wilson had it right years ago, “The devil made me do it”.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 27 2023 #139999

    Secret Track 1.5″:

    “it was apparent that the greatest issue was that the Russians were unable to articulate what exactly they wanted and needed.”

    The United States has articulated what they want – EVERYTHING on the planet.

    Now tell me who is confused. Then tell me why RF would want to articulate anything to “former senior U.S. national security officials”? Are not ” former senior U.S. national security officials” the group who formulated the Ukraine fiasco? Oh to be irreplaceable and indespensible and believe everyone but you is a backward moron. Well at least they have the chops for the perspective, ” former senior U.S. national security officials” are backwards morons. i guess ” former senior U.S. national security officials” did not hear about the proposals for mutual security in December 2021 or either of the Minsk Accords.

    and MacGregor is advertising for increased military budgets. That MF did not give an aerial fornication about anyone in Iraq or Yugoslavia. i think what we have here is situational unawareness. As the wiki says, he has unconvential military strategy. Perhaps that is an understatement. The Dems turned down his appointment as ambassador to Germany, maybe that is what is driving his bus.

    as ole Dandy Don Meredith used to intone “Turn out the lights the party’s over”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 26 2023 #139901

    Western Culture is mired in the sixteenth century and everyone who is anyone is joyfully and righteously constrained by the Enlightenment.
    Western minds are not stupid they are trained. Want to see many western humans go Pavlov’s Dog? Say “This is an exclusive one time offer that has the potential for extremely high profitability, get in on the ground floor”. Watch the salivating start.

    300,000 humans sacrificed to Mammon and people are pissed off about Twitter. The cold blooded murder at Nagasaki, the Cold War with Mackinder then the Grand Chessboard, the constant dunn of hate toward anyone even suggesting that Might does not make Right are deemed to be a sign of sophistication. The jokes about the Poles being dumb told by humans that believe they are indispensible and have a manifest destiny to rule the globe.

    best not to even start in on the deference to authority: “Just a few words so our audience will be sufficiently bamboozled”. “Well Billy Bob I have more letters after my name than a transexual wearing a rainbow tutu, combat boots and a MAGA cap”. “It is well known you are an expert in your field”. “That is correct William Robert I am a has been drip under pressure”! ” I am sure our audience appreciates that”.

    “I believe that there will be ultimately be a clash between the oppressed and those who do the oppressing. I believe that there will be a clash between those who want freedom, justice and equality for everyone and those who want to continue the system of exploitation. I believe that there will be that kind of clash, but I don’t think it will be based on the color of the skin.” ~ Malcolm X

    How much time have MacGregor or Ritter spent in Ukraine at the front in the last six months? Why are they still talking? It’s an inside job. Their talk is profitable, has no value, it is profitable. “better job with higher wages expenses paid and a car, but I’m on TV here locally, I can’t quit I’m a star” Roger Miller

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 25 2023 #139800

    aspnaz do you adhere to the belief that the natural selection process is Survival of the Fittest?

    all of the information gathered about the microbiome in recent years appears to contradict this view. Symbiotic cooperation within a network of micro organisms and flora is gaining recognition. Evidence within the fauna has all but destroyed Dawkins notion of The Selfish Gene. The Verse progressed for some period of time before our solar system came into being. All of this by taking the least, a hydrogen atom, and using fusion to synthesize complexity. The least is lifted up to become the most complex.

    and yet there are those who believe that the earth is and should be an English garden and that Survival of the Fittest and destruction of the biome are the proper path for humanity to take. Among this group are those who see preying on their least capable fellow as noble. This group is the greatest proselytizer of violence on our planet and offer material possesion as the holy grail.

    as you note, “Can’t fix stupid”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 24 2023 #139694

    “”they’re all psychotic, and lost in violent delusions no one can break them from.

    When I say they’re delusional and mentally ill I’m not being hyperbolic or metaphorical.

    It will be greatly entertaining, since it’s all fake, all a show, and nobody has the slightest interest in the truth.

    They think the world is made of fluffy cotton candy in infinite amounts if we click our heels and tell it to exist.

    BTW it’s not peaked yet. People are still acting MORE insane in their daily lives than I’ve ever seen.
    Broad-based, internal, therefore expressing in every thought and action they take.”

    and every single one of “they, them, those” were told by one of them “capitalists” that a service economy was the golden path to the future. “The renaissance man is dead” is how George Will phrased it, “we have reached the age of specialization”. Modern monetary policy indicates that a nations productive capacity can be reduced to zero, have no marketable exports and expand comfortably at 2.5% per annum indefinitly. Wasn’t it the communists and their planned economy that started shutting down United States manufacturing capability and borrowing to finance manufacturing in Bangladesh, Southeast Asia and China? I’m sure it was the Soviet Style economists that derailed all sense of mark to market, that allowed corporations to borrow based on the value of manufacturing plants that were idled. I’m sure it was those scheming Chinese who put laws through the US congress to allow the mingling of funds between private and commercial banking. You know the opening of the casino and the explosion of derivatives markets.

    “It will be greatly entertaining, since it’s all fake, all a show, and nobody has the slightest interest in the truth.” – D
    D, bro do you have any context for the following? “and their hearts were hardened” Are you counting on a second passover? “…..nobody has the slightest interest in the truth.” Fair enough.
    Hope you understand that i love my fellow citizens, don’t like the culture a tinker’s damn worth, and i do not hold them in contempt. I understand that from the moment that tax dollars were supplied to the televison industry to provide “Public Service Information” the citizens of my nation have been encouraged to look to television to find accurate information about the worlds movement into the future. I have in my personal live been lied to and betrayed and i struggle to achieve empathy and compassion for every human being that finds themself in similar circumstance.
    Just how many words does it take to say “black is black”?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2023 #139606

    how does Zelensky differ from Pahlavi? Noriega? Sadam Hussein?
    what is different this time from all of the earlier obscenities? cell phones with an IP address. Instead of two lies now there is a plethora of “according to experts”.

    do you remember William Laws Calley Jr.? Do you remember the path of his incarceration and ultimate absolution? No i didn’t think so, after all it was pre-Obama.

    Do you remember there were no investigations into Unlawful Orders either at the Pentagon or in The Congress concerning the execution of the rape of Southeast Asia? Do you remember Agent Orange? Do you remember how the State used the press to set up video scenes of young people spitting on US troops returning from Southeast Asia? Do you remember how the war mongers tied patriotism to glorification of the War in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos. Remember “Might makes Right”? I didn’t think so. being All meritocracy and all.

    Do you realize many of the voices we hear, shrilly decrying the current state of affairs with an errant sense of deja vue, are the ones who cried out about the Vietnam War. Yes they cried out about the brutality of the War and then copped the plea and waded chin deep into the cesspool. Do you remember the final scenes from the movie The Magic Christian (1969)? This group of traitors to themselves and humanity are now outraged once again about the state of affairs, the Social Security allotment no longer covers the spread. Remember “Kill a Commie for Christ”?
    Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon -Four Dead in Ohio, Spiro Agnew – Walter Cronkite. Let’s face it, the movie The Matrix is not how my generation played it. We all woke up the next morning and went back to work. Morpheus? never heard of him.

    That ain’t news pawdna that’s history:
    ““• Lockheed Martin Predicts Strong Profits as Global Instability Rises (LI) “

    What it’s about except it’s really about banking. Markets. Price-fixing.

    Soviet Socialist Centralization always price-fixes. That’s a key feature of “Not-Capitalism”. Without it, Capitalism would return and they would collapse. They couldn’t survive 30 minutes in a meritocracy.”

    “Capitalism would return”…. that’s some serious hopium there. Have you ever heard of intellectual property or proprietary information? Value discovery is an intrinsic component of trade. All trade is an exchange of value. The expansion of exchange is a market. Capitalism is a tool, a crescent wrench at best. There can be no price discovery without value discovery preceeding. There has been no Capitalism in westen economies in my life. Do you remember the Anti-Trust fervor that produced the Baby Bells? That a large percentage of US citizens my age actively participated in the destruction of exchange of value in blind pursuit of self interest is a fact. Greed is Good!!!!! Faux moral outrage is nauseating. Looks like hell to be Asleep and Woke at the same time. Do i hear Judy Collins singing “Both Sides Now”? “…it’s clouds illusions I recall, I really don’t know clouds at all…”

    As ole Sinclair and Frank noted “It Can’t Happen Here” 1935,1966

    It’ not Shake and Bake it’s Hell and I helped.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 22 2023 #139551

    aspnaz – “If the rat turns round and bites, you will regret not killing it earlier.”

    Rope a Dope, let a sucker punch themself out. Erdogan has the only viable armed forces. NATO might win but do they want to pay the price of admission considering the value of the purse?

    One must consider how a nation with $32 trillion in unsecured debt will secure financing to rebuild after victory. Turkey is broke. Full faith and credit after the destruction of central Europe and northern Eurasia? The non-western world is going to foot the bill for rearming the west so they can watch the blood thirsty savages do it again?

    Wear high top boots. Chase the rat around the room to exhaustion. Have your way.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 21 2023 #139512

    Well, it’s got to be worse than we know when things get this shrill. Some people really sweatin fallin off the gravy train.

    Fauci, EcoHealth Alliance and Baric are patsies. Oh but the bread crumbs lead to Wuhan. Yep.
    Millions in funding i tells ya, millions in funding

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 20 2023 #139444

    The U.S. Defense Department has a budget of $816,700,000,000
    The current hot topic investigations into influence peddling alledge $17,300,000
    The 17.3 is 0.000021 percent of the Department of Defense Budget
    The US Department of State 2023 budget is $60.4 billion
    The US Department of Agriculture 2023 budget is $31.1 billion
    The 17.3 is 000019 percent of the total budgets of the above listed agencies. ($908.2 billion)

    The entire “Lap Top Adventure” inferring $17.3 million dollars of skim is the destruction of The Republic is perhaps the most cynical of the political deceipt run amok within The United States of America at this time. One party is crucifying Mr. Trump in an attempt to cover their wickedness and the other party is crucifying the Truth to cover their wickedness.

    Not a single US citizen outside of the Beltway hierarchy has any idea of the intent, purpose or prosecution of the corporate written laws and regulations and lobby money paid for actions of the US federal agencies. Those who view the debacle from outside the borders of the United States are even less informed.

    Amazing as it is, the humans who have no idea at all what is actually being done know exactly the solution to the dilemna. Even more dumbfounding is the realization that among these humans some know of another human who has the same amount of knowledge of the inside as they and have convinced themself That person is the ONE to solve the problems at hand.

    and even more nauseating are those that write tomes decrying the rape of the social contract and then offer a means to profit from the wholesale prostitution involved

    “What a piece of work is man….” decorum demands i leave it there

    what exactly is plausibly being denied in all of the disasters at hand? The little bastard from Independence relinquished foreign and domestic policy to a non Article III federal (no checks, no tricameral balance) agency with the signing of the 1947 National Security Act? have you read about President Allen Dulles?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 19 2023 #139377

    Red, from the moment Gutenberg offered printing as a commercial enterprise there has been no free open fair press. The idea that there has been a press in service to the citizens is a fallacy created by those who own the presses.

    When one has been knocked to the ground with sufficient force to need and ask for assistance in regaining a standing position the ground has been prepared for “A more rational course”.

    ” Out of the night that covers me,
    Black as the pit from pole to pole,
    I thank whatever gods may be
    For my unconquerable soul.

    In the fell clutch of circumstance
    I have not winced nor cried aloud.
    Under the bludgeonings of chance
    My head is bloody, but unbowed.

    Beyond this place of wrath and tears
    Looms but the Horror of the shade,
    And yet the menace of the years
    Finds and shall find me unafraid.

    It matters not how strait the gate,
    How charged with punishments the scroll,
    I am the master of my fate,
    I am the captain of my soul.” Henley
    Do you know anyone who lives these words outside the fantasy they have created for themself?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 19 2023 #139373

    truth in advertising first. i consume Jesus koolaid by the drum not the glass.

    there was a time when there were words “writ in red” in the Gospels, everything aside from these passages are commentary. Western minds have been taught that a political, economic, socio hierarchy is the Church. In the United States ALL text books for primary education come from the same source. The rubric for elementary mathematics has been changed so frequently that those charged with teaching math no longer have any insight into a millenia old process. A member of my family is an elementary school teacher. The main purpose of our education process has become enforcing obeisance to heirarchy. This is not news, this is history.

    we have arrived at a point in time where those who were taught an attitude of deference or homage to authority are now “authority”. from the article you posted “A more rational course, it seems to me, would be to find out what the economic outlook is likely to be, and start to prepare the public accordingly.” Do you think that those who accepted Reaganomics or Thatcherism and were the authority figures at the time have attempted to prepare any citizen for “A more rational course”?

    do you remember when David Rockefeller stated “there is more oil now than there has ever been” and everyone in authority agreed? Do you remember when those in authority positions applauded Mr. Reagan for removing the the solar collectors from the grounds of the White House? Both of these men and their statements and actions were deemed to be “A more rational course”.

    How do you say to the citizens of the United States “ninety percent of everything you have been taught is a lie”? Do you think that any pharmacist, nurse, doctor, medical system administrator or public employee who went along with poisoning their fellow man to maintain their position of authority has the insight to “to find out what the economic outlook is likely to be”?

    i live in nothwest Florida. In the years since the coup in Ukraine a sufficient number of human beings have been murdered to depopulate northwest Florida from Bay County through Escambia County. How do you prepare citizens who do not understand “and then they came for me”?

    the citizens of the United States as a group, five years to either side of my station, make teats on a boar hog appear utilitarian. This is a group of people who still see the atomic structure of a hydrogen atom in terms of the tinker toy models they encountered in elementary school in the 1950s. “A more rational course”. Give me a rest.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 17 2023 #139238

    bears repeating

    ““This crisis demonstrates the inability of Westerners to think and act according to facts, rather than expectations……..”

    bares a reality few western persons will dare accept – there is mystery. The Big Bang hypothesis first codified by Georges Lemaître is four years short of a century. The famous hypothesis has more patches than an inner tube in a bald tire on a poor kids bicycle. Although they are unaware of the fact, most western minds who have reached my station in life still believe in a cosmological constant engendering a steady state. How about this, how to understand time dilation in this verse expanding at the speed of light. Wanna see the deer in the head lights stare? Ask someone my age, 72, about gravitational lensing in relation to the path of a photon. Just for grins ask what discovery is credited to Penzias and Wilson and in what year.
    Well, i don’t know but it is probably a threat to our national security.

    “…..the inability of Westerners to think and act according to facts…..” or hypothesis

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 15 2023 #139095

    Mike Pence, “That’s not my concern.”

    alas so much concern for the general welfare.
    now, tell me how dumb our current vice president is
    even better tell me how dumb i am

    guess we need a moral majority, i know let’s have a Tea Party and exclude the nattering nabobs of negativism.

    Where is Huey Long when you need him? Oh I remember, he was consumed by the general welfare.
    “a chicken in every pot and every man a king” – Kingfish

    just no good at being nice, Dominus vobiscum

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 13 2023 #138940

    per the immigration saga

    are you outraged about the influx of person’s on the southern border of the United States? You need only to keep one policy in mind – The Monroe Doctrine. That’s right our own pool of humanity to be ruthlessly exploited.

    can you hear Sam Cooke singing?
    “Baby, bring it to me
    Bring your sweet loving
    Bring it on home to me
    Yeah (Yeah), yeah (Yeah), yeah (Yeah)”

    and remember that’s your tax dollars at work – The United Fruit Company – kill a Sandinista for Chiquita

    Dr. D doesn’t know where to start. es verdad! A Person or Nation’s welfare is not a government program, sir egocentric sphincter. It is a state of being. Dr. D hit it out of the park!!!!! uhh, it’s a T-Ball field.
    The idea of Welfare was ridiculed not just the programs. Do a day’s commentary on the homeless and then lecture about the general welfare. FDR noted “nothing happens by accident”. some exceptions apply

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 13 2023 #138935

    No it’s not all energy. Trying to measure the quantum process using the Standard Model, including Relativity and Special Relativity, is carrying coal to Newcastle.

    Information not energy is the foundation.

    The BBC naming another party as a liar is rich.

    for all you Republicans of high moral certainty, rememember all of the hyperbole about welfare destroying the nation?
    “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare,……”
    promote the general Welfare,…..” I guess the people set out to destroy the nation at the outset – MAGA

    Musk is wealthy because he creates more debt than anyone in his league. How wealth are you?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 12 #138889

    twenty years of hammer and skilsaw in the company of humane beings – the best

    twenty minutes among those who “rip you of with a smile and it don’t take a gun-(Van Morrison)” – purgatory. Hope for salvation was always present.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 12 #138888

    Navigate to Moon of Alabama this morning and view the images.

    In plain view the culmination of the Enlightenment and
    a view of personal enlightenment

    Bush: “The American lifestyle is non-negotiable”

    How many here have the same feeling shown on The Face of Ukraine? Though to be fair Zelensky only murdered about 400,000 and we slaved away our lives to pay for the murder of millions. The similarity is that The Oh So Enlightened Ones have walked away from both. “Good job Brownie” or perhaps Albright – ‘We Think The Price Is Worth It,’

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 11 2023 #138827

    Dear Doctor of Denial, Succintness has it’s charms, unless you are engaged in propaganda. Then say it, whatever it might be, 365 days in a row with as many words as possible.

    The entire regimen of tax cutting starting with Raygun has a singular purpose, to free up disposable income and direct it to compound interest payments. There is no way taxes could have ever have financed our Global War OF Terror.
    The compound interest on the financing for that self-storage warehouse where we store those useless signs of our affluence we pay compound interest on our credit cards for?
    That closet full of clothes and shoes we never wear that are still being paid for,
    That vacation, that jet ski, that boat, that ATV, that travel trailer, those RVs – simple to luxurious -, that high end automobile your teenager drives so everyone can see our affluence, the debt incurred by the corporation where you have employment, the debt carried by every town, city, county and state?
    Compound interest!
    Starting with our Iran-Contra affair and moving to our debacle in Ukraine,
    every child starved, maimed and murdered along our affluent path has been the victim of compound interest.

    “”Kill! Kill! Kill! Kill!” and the sergeant came over, pinned a medal on me
    Sent me down the hall, said “You’re our boy”. Arlo Guthrie – Alice’s Restaurant – 1997
    Three Cheers for Grover Norquist – “You’re our boy”
    Do you still use Facebook? The platform longest involved in pimping your daughter out for compound interest. “You’re our boy” It’s so convenient!

    And finally – The TRUE people of the Book have no part in this – looking at you CelticBiker. “None so blind as those who WILL not see”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 10 2023 #138748

    feeling a little verbose this morning i beg your forebearance

    Do you ever wonder if anyone has read Billy Budd and synthesized the truth illustrated into their being?

    EoinW, do you equate compassion with weakness?

    The Special Specialist’s Specialist – One among The World’s Smartest Man that perceives themself removed from and above the selection process who upon closer examination is revealed to be a graduate of the Peter Principle.

    When it is realized that you are among “The least of these” it becomes much easier to “Love your neighbor as yourself”.
    Yes, yes, a sure sign of weakness. Beware! Empathy is the gateway narcotic that leads to compassion.

    mea culpa: i work to be nice, i’m just no good at it

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 10 2023 #138744

    Red, those of us here who have been watching the videos of inter-species cooperation understand Dawkins “Selfish Gene” is at best navel gazing and not investigation or measurement.
    “It’s not what you look at that matters, it’s what you see.” Thoreau
    “Every oak tree started out as a couple of nuts who stood their ground.” Thoreau

    Peace be with you all

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 10 2023 #138742

    Consider a spring driven mechanical timepiece. Each component has it’s own physical property, the parts are not equivalent. The position of the components in space differs.The function of the device depends on each component properly in place to function. Though not equivalent Each component is equal in terms of the function of the device.

    on a number line -1 and 1 are equal in distance from zero, in function -1 and 1 do not have the same properties – the numbers are not equivalent

    Astrophyicists tell us there is not a center to the Verse(universe in the standard model). This of course is not accurate, i personally know several centers of the Verse. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal…..” Equality does not imply equivalence. Vanity, excessively high self esteem, does not imply superiority. The previous sentence of course does not apply to Western Culture where vanity and superiorty are equal and equivalent.

    The Enlightenment is placed in the 17th and 18th centuries in western Europe,
    The Spanish Inquistion:
    Established:1 November 1478
    Disbanded:15 July 1834
    and the “Oh So Enlightened Ones” see no connection between the two. A less than humorous interpretation – Never give a sucker an even break!

    What type of man penned the United States Declaration of Independence?
    A man who knew the recitation of the Qur’an and the Good News of the Gospel.

    “Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever: that considering numbers, nature and natural means only, a revolution of the wheel of fortune, an exchange of situation, is among possible events: that it may become probable by supernatural interference!

    I remain unenlightened

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 2 2023 #134505

    A glance toward CBDCs. The creation of CBDC does not address the underlying structural problem:

    1. Limited resources (availability, location, cost)
    2. Low to negative productivity.

    For those who have reached my station the evolution of credit from LayAway at the department stores to Revolving Credit to personalized credit cards has accompanied us from our youth. The expansion of credit entangled with the creation of an extractive planned economy is the modern consumer environment. The expansion of consumer credit is the face of the expansion of commercial credit. Consolidation of market information (inventory, demand, shipping and production) is the foundation beneath the expansion of credit.

    What can be purchased today in any region of the United States is limited. Have you purchased a new household appliance lately? Why your experience? See 1 and 2 above.

    The view that this great expansion of credit came through the Back Window @ The FED is almost to the point of acceptance. Market forces? A Growth Economy? Pull my other finger. The CBDC is another round in the expansion of credit. The concern that the CBDC will limit the ability to purchase ignores the reality of the big box stores today. The consumer will be free to purchase as much of nothing as they are today. We are at another foot stone along the path to the planned extractive economic model.

    Where did it all go? This was asked the other day. Every bit of “it” is still here. All “it” has ever been is debt. An Asset derived from what?
    Pretty sure there is an “ism” ((insert your own dumb idea here))

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 14 2023 #133448

    the discussion the last week brings the following to mind:

    ” Most people are alive in an earlier time, but you must be alive in our own time.”
    Marshall McLuhan

    “Most of our assumptions have outlived their uselessness.” ~ Marshall McLuhan

    being a little slow I might have misunderstood a member here suggesting that “it’s a mystery” is a disingenuous rebuttal with the implication there is no mystery. There is no satisfactory explanation for the Great Wall of Galaxies or the rate of expansion of the physical universe or that the accepted understanding of gravity does not work at the cosmic scale. One of course can just accept “dark matter” and dark energy and be done. No mystery at all. We don’t understand why the accepted model of the physical universe works locally and the Bang Model is losing the predictive capabilities we once believed. No mystery at all, we have named what we do not understand thus there is no mystery.

    abberant human beings will murder to have their way, they will, with malice and aforethought develop systems of exploitation even to the point of destroying infants and children. No ism is needed. Next thing someone here will propose is that the Peloponnesian War was nothing more than communisim and socialism steeped in Marx’s dialect at work. Dunno could a been fascism

    Man Know Thyself – a statement so old none know the exact origin
    Man Know Thyself, “Not no, hell no!” modern western sentiment

    please proceed, a rendezvous with the fantasy of your nobility awaits or “too smart by half”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 10 2023 #133166

    At one time there was a video on Youtube….. The video on Youtube was with a successful man who has worked in creating computer systems and software for the US DOD, the name Ernst seems to have been associated with the man. The person being interviewed related how Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were brought into one project to test one of the systems. The software engineers created a GUI for the testing that allowed manipulation of the underlying database without revealing what was being tested. The system was to have wide use and the idea was to see if Jobs or Gates, as regular users, could “break” the system. One of the takeaways the person gained during the testing was, “Gates just isn’t that bright”. ….. seems to no longer be there.

    just between you and me – anyone who utters the type of statements in public that Gates does, just isn’t that bright. as in the software testing the man is a useful idiot. Were you ever impressed that ole Bill was the World’s Richest Man? Here’s your sign

    in reply to: Debt Rattle April 4 2023 #132763

    Another sincere, rhetorical question:
    What state of being does one find themself within when everything they strived for comes to frution?

    The state of being of one who sees everything struggled against coming to fruition?
    Hopeful sadness.

    take care,

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 23 3023 #131865

    “The good news is, particles of uranium oxide are extremely heavy compared to air molecules and are unlikely to be carried far from the place of use by winds.”


    you ain’t one of em

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 22 2023 #131786

    “that virus escaped…probably somewhere in the September [2019] timeframe…”

    At least we’re getting to THAT truth

    “I think it was done probably as part of a biodefense program…..”

    ” And they can’t be convinced others aren’t as slavish as they are.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 21 2023 #131731

    a modest proposal:
    if you have access to U.S. National Public Radio take a few moments during the day and listen to a few moments of several programs.
    i would have you note the tone of the speakers voices and the certainty with which they express their thoughts.

    i personally know several who gather the majority of the information they use to form their world view from NPR.

    a line from Lewis Carroll to close-
    “Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.” – Carroll

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 20 2023 #131657

    Dr. D

    “Speaking of: I didn’t understand yesterday’s thesis on the USAF and the Labs. WHO are the players and what were their goals? Did they succeed in them? Things were suggested but not said directly. Could you repeat/translate?”

    i know from publicly published video that “the players” considered the death of five hundred thousand children an acceptable cost for achieveing “limited policy objectives”. Are you looking for logic and the use of reason among those with that mind set?

    “WHO are the players and what were their goals?” Those who hold and publish the concept of Full Spectrum Dominance.

    “Did they succeed in them?”

    Considering that there is now an overhwhelming amout of information about the effects of the bioweapon on the global human population i consider the test to have been an enormous success. I do not find a segment of western culture that was not touched. Education, manufacturing, supply chains, banking and personal interactions have all been stress tested. The physical, emotional and psychological state of the west leaning world exposed to the bioweapon have all been measured. The move of another piece on the Grand Chessboard.
    No matter one’s assessment of the planning there is planning, and the methods and aims are for the most obscured. What i know from experience is the plans of the Military Industrial Complex rest on a foundation of disregard for life. Mine and yours. The design, purpose and molecular components of the innoculant administered to the human population is also a test and your reaction and mine will be determined and sorted by demographics. Remember Rumsfeld and the “known unknowns”? Is the weapon and the innoculant part of the same test?

    Full Spectrum Dominance, coming to the world near you. and bubba neither China nor Mexico is bringing it to you.

    as far the the labs – if you were to tell me you know where the weapon was engineered i would ask you to pull another finger

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 19 2023 #131593

    since everyone has a BS theory about the bioweapon here ya go:

    The virus was engineered as a bioweapon with parameters that would allow for controlled and specific mutations. The implementation of the project was assigned to the Air Warfare Command. The plan was innoculation and immunity from infection. Look for US Airforce Air Warfare Command posts and there you will find populations infected with the original strains. The first releases were the proof of concept tests. (Those who look at the mutations and assume natural selection are engaged in wishful thinking.)

    Fauci, Eco Health and the other purported responsible parties are nothing more than compromised patsies. The DOD, DARPA management, whoever they might be, placed bread crumbs along the path to leave the impression of agency and departmental innocence.

    The situation with the bioweapon is just another example of wishful thinking writ large. Those who, simple mindedly, wanted such a weapon were driven solely by their desire to possess such a weapon. Each segment of the US polity has a phalanx of ladder climbers with personal ascension at the core of their being. The yes persons in the DOD armed with intelligence gathered over time knew the yes persons available to move the hoped for bioweapon forward and those who could be easily compromised and used as a shield.

    Those who implemented the immunity by infection desired the bioweapon so intensely finding the appopriate yes persons was all that was needed. The path to success, as witnessed in the culture of the US, is to insure that only yes persons are involved in the venture. One has to assume that the core group had enough sophistication and knowledge to believe they failed due diligence. Yes persons rise because they are yes persons, competency and integrity are anathema to their existence.

    No one involved in the bioweapon fiasco had any competency or integrity. Anyone possesing competency in the field of virology and personal integrity was never a part of the process. Western culture has selected for yes persons since 1054 AD. The line of demarcation between the yes persons and the competent has been the poverty line. Are you at or below the poverty line? Probably not a yes person. Someone has to manage empire and keep their mouth shut.(see Stewart/Summers above)

    Do you think that the reaction of The People’s Republic of China is based on information gathered from the western press? What need would there be to maintain information about the decoy in Wuhan when your worst fears are before you. Do you think, looking at history, the Chinese are moved by the western narrative or the will to survive and prosper?

    All very 19th century – “Make it so”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2023 #131564

    “They need to be held accountable” – an example of fractal geometry in western thought, an exquisite Mandelbrot Set

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2023 #131541

    guns for defense along with credit are a necessity and anathema to use

    the banks are failing, the banks are failing, the banks are failing – September 2019, September 2019, September 2019 – the moment the big boy’s accountants noted the situation is FUBAR

    “All the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty together again”

    be generous and accept 10% of the western world run the show. 10% of 15% of the world’s population has the ability to control and manage the ecosystem and 6.4 billion human beings? i want to be tall and handsome, don’t see that happening either. DBDC, the full faith and credit of the nation. Almost everyone i know has historicall and present confidence in that full faith and credit. Charlie Robinson thinks his money is worth something and he is gonna loose it. brings Aykroyd’s repartee to Curtain from SNL to mind

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 17 2023 #131466

    “You know the nearer your destination
    The more you’re slip slidin’ away” – Paul Simon

    Breaking News: The News is Broken

    obviously the British guy hasn’t seen the Woody Harrelson vid about shepharding your expenditures. Big Bucks for tea, paid with cash, that’ll show em

    no one seems to be asking what the people of the south thought would be the result of strip mining the entire US economy the way the garment industry was strip mined from their homes

    “Home of the brave, land of the free
    I don’t wanna be mistreated by no bourgeoisie
    Lord, in a bourgeois town
    Uhm, the bourgeois town
    I got the bourgeois blues, I’m
    Gonna spread the news all around” Huddie Ledbetter,Alan Lomax

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 15 2023 #131312

    in an effort to lend credence to a fellow’s reputation as an oracle:

    for straight is the gate and narrow the path that leads harsh dissonance to lyrical harmony

    my parents, our family, sacrificed so that six of my first eight years of education were within a parochial school system. As i entered into my freshman year at The Home of Social Engineering my parents were chagrined to discover that i had actually learned and believed what they had sacrificed to provide for me.

    now fifty eight years later and fifty years of seeking and hoping to reach the straight gate i find that there is nothing new under the sun. Much to the chagrin of most i meet today i still have learned and belief what my parents sacrificed to provide for me. Seek a peace that exceeds understanding and you will find it, seek the world and her troubles and you will be rewarded. One is free to choose a path and express their experience, one who chooses another path will have a separate experience.

    Pursuit of the world and her troubles following the tenets of THE BUSINESS of FAITH leads to bitterness. Hans Christian Anderson’s story is of course a metaphor for those who deny faith. Those of fatih can see those other lives and the reality they hope to construct.

    “I do not pretend to understand the moral universe; the arc is a long one, my eye reaches but little ways; I cannot calculate the curve and complete the figure by the experience of sight, I can divine it by conscience. And from what I see I am sure it bends towards justice.”
    Theodore Parker

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 15 2023 #131307

    “Great, except no one will care. They’ve picked their side, POWER, right or wrong.” Dr. D
    Great, except no one will care. We’ve picked our side, POWER, right or wrong.

    Dr. this should be your byline, add a little Murrow or Harvey flair! (smiley thing)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 13 2023 #131115

    Thanksgiving dinner in 2019 is an event that will not pass from my memory. Preparation of the Thanksgiving meal has been my gift of caring for my family for decades. In 2019 i cooked the meal solely from memory and recipe. My sense of smell and taste was lost in late September, early October, after recovering from the strangest illness i had ever experienced. After months of trying to determine what i had encounted and asking “what the hell is this?” the answer came in January 2020.

    one might take the perspective that the total inanity of the NYT Nordstream strory is to give credence to the Wuhan leak foolishness. My personal intuition is Mr. Science and crew are some of the most expensive patsies ever setup. Keep your friends close and keep your adversary closer makes the most sense in terms of China and the Wuhan lab. Had the lab in Wuhan been the only level four lab funded by U.S. funded departments and agencies there would be the smoking gun.

    When you have lived adjacent to a test range for sixty years you understand the U.S. DOD has zero concern for the environment or the citizens nearby. The citizens living near the test range are actually part of the testing and this is accepted because the test range drives the local economy.

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