Debt Rattle June 16 2025

 

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  • #190015
    Topcat
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    Scum baggette Trump lies like a women.

    He also never uses any four syllable words by habit because his follows don’t know any and couldn’t understand his constant vassalations of retard speech if he did.

    “We have the best military maggot bling in the world”

    ~Donald Trump I endorse this lie

    #190016
    Topcat
    Participant

    Iranian missile strike on Haifa

    Where are all those “Dancing Israelis” from the 911 days!

    Crickets

    #190017
    Germ
    Participant

    Good morning :-))

    And all the while. The fittest among us continue to drop …

    Tragedy as footballer, 19, dies suddenly
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tragedy-footballer-19-dies-suddenly-35394593

    Prayers Pouring In After NCAA Champion Dies ‘Suddenly’ At 28
    https://thespun.com/olympics/prayers-pouring-in-after-ncaa-champion-dies-suddenly-at-28

    TVASSF – victims of a global vaccine war – WWV

    #190018
    Topcat
    Participant

    A liitle something for all the ‘professional victims’

    #190019
    Topcat
    Participant

    ISISrael’s military brain trust speaks

    #190020
    Topcat
    Participant

    Record impacts on Haifa, Israel

    https://x.com/i/status/1933984629889065026

    #190021
    Topcat
    Participant

    • From Peace President to Warmonger

    Just a small gentle reminder:

    Hypersonic missiles SINK aircraft carriers

    The 5000+ crew gone in an instant: Poof!

    Remember Putin’s comment about nuclear wars starting:

    “If we have to die in a nuclear war, at least we (the Russian people) will be welcomed there (unlike the USSA)

    Iran is a Theocracy

    They are on board with Putin’s sentiment in spades.

    Who do you trust?

    #190022
    Topcat
    Participant

    Regime Change Israel!

    They are calibrating and ‘bracketing’ Israel

    Iran Use of More Advanced Missiles in Each Phase of Operation Against Israel

    Each wave getting more accurate and deadly

    They have thousands of missiles enough for months of attacks

    The number of Iranian missile launches in each wave is decreasing, and the damage and casualties are increasing.

    This indicates that the armed forces of the Iran are using more advanced and deadly missiles.

    #190023
    tboc
    Participant

    Don’t start vast projects with halfast ideas.

    Is it really that difficult to understand the havoc wrecked upon the social structure of the Uniteds States is a result of the same planning wrecking havoc on the global stage?
    Cliched as it is; If you want to change the world change yourself.
    Self governance starts with a disciplined individual.

    There is not now two sets of plans in United States policy and there has not been since The National Security Act of 1947. The plan for those exterior to the United States IS the exact same plan FOR The United States.
    It is totally irrelevant whether you believe these statements or not. No matter how much bile is spewed the progression of disarray present in the United States is best represented as a steady mid frequency low amplitude wave.

    Go ahead, hate the other and reap the fruit of your passion.

    #190028
    zerosum
    Participant

    NIGHTMARE

    Iran hit US bases in Qatar and Iraq.
    Iran close the strait of Hormuz
    ———–
    Time’s up. America First means AMERICA FIRST.
    Not Israel first.
    Not Ukraine first.
    Not NATO first. AMERICA FIRST.

    Washington’s warmongers failed.
    They lied.
    There is no peace and prosperity.

    They profited while America bled.
    ————
    NIGHTMARE

    The Americans, about staying in the Middle East and the Israelis about their existence as a state.

    Millions of Iranians rallied in the streets on Saturday, defying West Jerusalem’s attacks, and demanding retribution.
    ———–

    Hungry Chicks begging parent for meal.
    • Zelensky Says Iran Poses ‘Serious Threat’ To Ukraine, Amid Israel War

    ————-

    #190029
    zerosum
    Participant

    At least 25 air tankers en route to Europe/Middle East from the U.S. right now
    A major military airlift appears to now be underway, as an unprecedented number of U.S. Air Force KC-135 and KC-46 Aerial-Refueling Tankers have departed from airbases across the United States and appear to be preparing to cross the Atlantic towards Europe.

    Carolina Lion – “Number of aircraft keeps climbing. It looks like we are going to war. Only one place you would need that many flying gas stations right now.”

    #190030
    zerosum
    Participant

    IRGC statement:

    The Aerospace Forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps announces to the dear Iranian people that moments ago, a new and decisive wave of missile attacks was launched as part of Operation “True Promise 3,” more powerful and impactful than its predecessors.

    These precision strikes targeted the command and control systems of the oppressive Zionist entity, utilizing advanced operational methods supported by sophisticated intelligence and armament capabilities, enhanced by the blood of martyred leaders: Bagheri, Salami, Hajizadeh, and other aerospace heroes.

    This technical superiority led to the disruption of the enemy’s multi-layered defense systems, to the extent that some of its Patriot and defensive systems targeted each other, resulting in a major breach of the Zionist defense system, despite its full support from the United States and Western countries and their provision of the latest technologies.

    Today, the prophecy of the martyred leaders has been fulfilled, who repeatedly affirmed that Operation “True Promise 3” and subsequent operations would be more painful, more accurate in targeting, and greater in impact than any previous operation.

    This operation has also proven the falsity of Zionist and American enemy assessments, and clearly demonstrated the depth of intelligence and strategic failure in their calculations regarding the Islamic Republic. Today, we are witnessing the beginning of the collapse of the Zionist occupation entity.

    We direct a clear message to the supporters of this criminal entity: precise and effective strikes will continue relentlessly until the elimination and complete disappearance of this artificial entity.

    Posted by: JB | Jun 16 2025 7:59 utc | 735

    #190031
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    If Iran chose to close the Straits of Hormuz neither they nor their allies and customers would lose a single penny from the destruction of oil markets. They would simply get $300 per barrel instead of $75, and so would everybody else ON THER SIDE who traffics in black gold (much different story for their enemies). REALLY important key customers (like China and India and a few FRIENDLY others) could be given special prices, priorities and privileges to compensate for any inconvenience, and access to oil that was being DENIED to their competitors would more than make up for dents to the pocket book caused by slow-downs and interruptions.

    #190032
    zerosum
    Participant

    There is no one to stop the madness.

    #190033
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I would rather be a wounded tail gunner in a flak stricken B-17 over Germany than crew of a Western refueling tanker anywhere within a thousand miles of the Middle East. Get your affairs in order, write your will and say your final good-byes before boarding.

    #190034
    Dora
    Participant

    Due Dissidence.

    #190035
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1934576462130024914
    How many Anti-Ballistic Missile Systems’ interceptor did Israel use in the past 3 days to try counter Iranian Ballistic missiles ?

    1 x THAAD missile costs around $12.6 million.
    1 x Arrow-3 missile costs around $6 million.

    500 would be a low estimate.

    #190036
    zerosum
    Participant

    Israel Attacks Farabi Hospital in Kermanshah Iran

    https://x.com/ayshaahmeds/status/1934524294379217319

    “Israel’s actions mirror those of terrorist organizations like ISIS. Bombing hospitals, schools and residential buildings – the same crimes we witnessed in Gaza and Lebanon – are now being carried out in Iran.”

    #190037
    Dora
    Participant

    The Complete Architecture
    https://escapekey.substack.com/p/the-complete-architecture
    A comprehensive analysis of the institutional, operational, and enforcement mechanisms that have transformed the Venice Declaration’s vision into operational reality.
    This analysis documents a systematic 130-year project that has constructed the most sophisticated totalitarian apparatus in human history — one that operates through moral authority rather than political coercion. The documentary record reveals identical institutional templates, coordinated implementation timelines, overlapping networks of architects, and deliberate replication of governance mechanisms that defined the worst totalitarian regimes of the 20th century. The difference is scale and sophistication: where Hitler, Stalin, and Mao operated at national levels through crude political apparatus, this system operates globally through technical expertise and ethical mandate, making it far more insidious and potentially irreversible once fully activated.

    The foundational mechanism is the systematic replication of a hierarchical ‘clearing house’ model — first perfected in British banking — across every domain of social organisation, creating apparent decentralisation while concentrating ultimate control at the apex. Through ten integrated vectors spanning ideological capture, professional control, information management, economic compliance, and technological surveillance, this system has achieved what the 1986 Venice Declaration envisioned: science positioned as the source rather than subject of ethical frameworks across all aspects of human experience. The result is operational scientific socialism where resistance becomes literally unthinkable — economic survival requires expert compliance, professional advancement requires ethical conformity, and democratic dissent is pathologised as moral failure.

    The system is not approaching implementation; as proved by COVID-19 it is operational, and the window for democratic resistance is rapidly closing.

    #190038
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Recently, I read about how the fact that many common diseases in the 19th century were discovered to be caused by microorganisms led to a belief among researchers that polio must also be caused by a microorganism. While a virus exists that can cause poliomyelitis, so can many other things, and the bulk of the childhood polio that occurred was not due to a virus. Nevertheless, millions have been vaccinated against the “polio” virus.

    A similar phenomenon can occur in the world of human relations, politics, etc. We see commonalities, (humans are very good at pattern recognition generally,) and presume them to have the same source and/or the same mechanism of action. Is getting federal databases to talk to one another because Trump wants to save money for the US taxpayer or because he is in league with the Bilderberg Group? I do not know. However, I prefer to defer judgment for now — staying in the gray, uncertain area when it comes to specifics on this topic — because I don’t want to be putting my efforts into developing a “vaccine” against Trump’s perceived perfidy in this area, when further information may lead to a different cause or intent, rendering all efforts at creating and using the “vaccine” as useless and likely counterproductive. Dialectics have value.

    #190039
    jb-hb
    Participant

    If the US gets directly involved in attacking Iran and all those supposed Iranian sleeper cells in the US solely attack AIPAC, leaving everyone else alone… after AIPAC successfully attacked the US Constitution, specifically the Bill of Rights, specifically free speech, and then tried to drag us into WW3, I will shrug my shoulders so hard it will give me whiplash.

    I don’t actively wish any harm on even those lobbyists, but on the other hand, I have extreme Israel Fatigue. DGAF.

    I’m not sure our Boomer leadership really understands the total impossibility of a draft in the West The culture war went full retard in 2015. Kids that are 18-20 have known NOTHING but the culture war. I don’t think they have any conception of how cynical GenZ males are towards the prospect of a draft. To fight for what? DEI? Being thought of as “dangerous” subhuman scum worse than bears? Being purposely, consciously, phased out of cultural, civil, and economic life?

    Almost every young Millenial and GenZ male I’ve talked to does not believe the official 9/11 story. They will not be choked up with patriotic fervor if the Nimitz sinks. They will view whatever false flag tearjerker is coming with skepticism. AWFLs will go nuts for it, surely, but let them go fight then.

    So when does the false flag come, then? Tuesday is plausible (hey, TACO Tuesday) Before the end of the week?

    #190040
    tboc
    Participant

    today would be a good day for citizens of the US to inform their senators and members of the house of representative The United States will not foot the bill for any reconstruction in Israel. Every blogger and every citizen who comments on the internet needs to write one sentence.
    No More Funding For Israel

    it needs to be made clear this is not a fringe request it is a statement of national policy. Mid terms are up next. Congress and the US Federal Bureaucracy need to be reminded of Jefferson’s Tree of Liberty.

    #190041
    zerosum
    Participant

    Here is another

    Culture war.

    #190042
    jb-hb
    Participant

    In Zerohedge and Moon of Alabama comments, I’ve seen numerous rumored reports of massive amounts of fuel tanker planes being sent by the West to the Middle East

    Some have suggested this means a massive air attack by NATO is upcoming

    …but it could just be that Iran burnt up all the Israeli fuel reserves at places like Haifa and they just need the fuel.

    #190043
    Topcat
    Participant

    Iran’s AD was only down the first 8 hours or so because of Israeli cyber attack on it.

    That’s when the majority of IDF damage was inflicted.

    Once Iranian AD started functioning again. Israel’s ‘freedom of the sky’ over Iran evaporated.

    The IDF had to fake ‘air strikes’ with terrorist car bomb like stuff from sleeper cell’s inside Iran but as is their true nature lied in the media space by saying it was the airforce.

    Lying to a Zionist is like breathing air, second nature.

    Iran is “dialing in” the guidance systems on their really top level hypersonics.

    It’s a matter of calibrating certain variables and comparing the hits they have already accomplished.

    The targets in Israel have fixed co-ordinates, no need for ‘satellites’. Their hypersonic missile’s can’t be ‘jammed’.

    Small factors like winds, humidity, rain etc can be fine tuned, it’s just a matter of zeroing in the terrain maps to the internal guidance of the missiles.

    Once this is done, they can launch a hypersonic up Bibi’s anus.

    They should say the silent part out loud now.

    Target ALL is Israel’s leadership for termination, just like they have done to Iran’s.

    Make them personnally fear for their lives and the lives of their famalies and neigbors.

    The scientists killed by the IDF were in their apertment with their families. The IDF gouls. also killed the neigbors in the same complex.

    Israel deserves the same.

    THAT is Karma.

    Make the Zionist live underground for the rest of their miserable lives.

    #190048

    It’s good to see you back, jb-hb.

    #190049
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Thought I’d take a break but turns out I picked a way too interesting time for it.

    Anyone remember that SNL skit where Bush is asked what his backup plan is for Iraq if the occupation thing doesn’t work out and he’s like “well, we’ll need someone experienced… someone who can be strict… someone who really knows the lay of the land and can hit the ground running….”and by the end of the skit he admits best plan he can come up with is put Saddam back in charge?

    I can imagine a similar skit in which Trump initially talks about how supportive we are of Israel and ends up explaining how arming Iran with nukes is the most cost effective way to stop Israel panicking over Iran being about to get nukes.

    #190050
    John Day
    Participant

    Dima @ Military Summary says that Pakistan has warned Israel that if they nuke Iran, Pakistan will nuke Israel.

    The B-2 and maybe B-52 can carry the 30,000 # GBU-57 gravity bombs for deep ground penetration.

    Is it a good idea to risk those bombers getting shot down with Chinese hypersonic air-to-air missiles?

    This is a good time to let “Israel” experience some natural-consequences, I think.

    #190051
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/russian-and-chinese-military-cargo-planes-shuttling-weapons-missiles-supplies-into-iran

    Russian and Chinese Military Cargo Planes Shuttling weapons, Missiles, Supplies into Iran
    Hal Turner
    World
    June 16, 2025
    Hits: 10510

    #190052
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I’ve seen numerous repetitions of the rumor that Iran was hit with drones in the exact same way that Russia was hit with “spiderweb.”

    At the time I was thinking wtf are you attacking Russia’s nuclear triad?

    Both the method being identical and the timing of hitting Russia’s long range bombers right before Iran got hit can be seen in a different context now.

    #190053
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Both sides seem to agree that less missiles are being launched per salvo from Iran now. Reasons given differ:

    –Pro Iran: Iran has overwhelmed Israel’s AD. They are low on/out of antimissiles and now Iran is doing MORE damage with LESS missiles, as Iran’s missiles are not being shot down anymore. Heavier payload missiles are being sent now that the interception rate is way down.

    –Pro Israel: Israeli planes are operating freely over Iran and have progressively knocked out so many launchers that Iran is reduced to small salvos. Getting smaller all the time. Soon to be almost none.

    #190054
    citizenx
    Participant

    “The U.S. had nothing to do with the attack on Iran, tonight. If we are attacked in any way, shape or form by Iran, the full strength and might of the U.S. Armed Forces will come down on you at levels never seen before. However, we can easily get a deal done between Iran and Isr.”

    The US has everything to do with the terrorist attack against Iran (and those against Russia).
    The US supplies endless weapons, money, training to both Israel and Ukraine-

    The US is Israel = Israel is the US.
    They are inseparable.

    The Ukraine war against Russia is the US war.
    Why pretend otherwise?

    Iran is currently begging russia for military help against Israel, but Putin is denying he has any such obligations. As a reminder, russia and Iran signed a 20-year Strategic Military Partnership Agreement on January 17, 2025.

    West Jerusalem has asked the White House to take part in its military campaign against Iran in order to eliminate Tehran’s nuclear program, according to two Israeli officials cited by Axios.

    US the aggressors against Russia and Iran.

    Democrats– Russia Russia Russia !!! Obliterate Iran !!!
    Remember?

    Republicans– Russian aggression must be stopped! Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran!
    Remember ???

    NEITHER IRAN OR AMERICA WANT TO FIGHT EACH OTHER…
    Israel is engineering their hardest to get them to go to war.

    American Govt has been screaming about destroying Iran for decades.
    Already one coup with the Shah, now trying for another.

    Maybe most Americans don’t want new wars- but the USG lives and breathes for moar wars.
    Trump is a lying retarded corrupt pos.

    ..

    Three More States Diverge From CDC On COVID-19 Vaccine Recommendations

    Health officials with California, Oregon, and Washington state said in a joint statement that they “continue to recommend all individuals age 6 months and older should have access and the choice to receive currently authorized COVID-19 vaccines,

    Yeah of course those subhuman trash do- I don’t recall those hypocritical scum offering or honoring anyones “choice” a few years ago. My body/ my choice?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/three-more-states-diverge-cdc-covid-19-vaccine-recommendations

    Disgusted what adult Americans from both parties have become- total fucking monsters.
    Lets not pretend otherwise- not for the sake if civility or at the cost of truth.
    Dystopia is here, perhaps the wisdom of the Universe will set things right, humans seem incapable.

    #190055
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Political cartoon from Yemen News Agency (SABA) today –

    “The Israeli media blackout on the losses”

    https://www.saba.ye/en

    #190056
    Topcat
    Participant

    Israel attacks Iran TV

    Iran’s response:

    “IRAN IS PREPARING FOR THE ‘LARGEST AND MOST INTENSE MISSILE ATTACK IN HISTORY ON ISRAELI SOIL’
    -IRANIAN STATE MEDIA

    “Tonight promises to be hellish, with the expected emergence of new Iranian missiles, never before seen, projected to be launched in the darkness”

    #190057
    poppie
    Participant

    Often posted. rarely accredited properly. Robert Minor cartoon from the Daily Worker June 27 1925 predicting BRICS. Not sure how link will look.
    https://www.marxists.org/history//usa/pubs/dailyworker/1925/1925-ny/v02b-n142-supplement-jun-27-1925-DW-LOC.pdf

    #190058
    poppie
    Participant
    #190059
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Cribbed from Moon of Alabama comments – the most hilarious Baghdad Bob optimism moment evar coming from Iran or the most hilarious Israeli fail evar

    IRGC General Vahidi: We are ready for a long and all-out war / We will soon bring our new surprises to the battlefield.

    The advisor to the commander of the IRGC told Tasnim:

    we will use our other capabilities soon and new-generation missiles are just part of it.

    Reducing missile stocks is a joke ; we have not yet made sufficient strategic use of our missile capabilities; whenever we see fit,

    We have no concerns about the war prolonging , and in the coming days, the world will see what surprises Iran will bring to the field.

    Day by day, the conditions on the field will improve in all aspects of the war, and we may also use our other capacities.

    Our hands are wide open to make the Zionist regime miserable , and in the near future everyone will see what capabilities and power the Iranian armed forces possess in various fields.

    Israel very openly stated that THEIR program to demolish Iran would last 14 days. “lots, lots more to come” etc. So ah…. keeping it going for 14 days is your favorite thing, right?

    Did they assassinate all the decision-makers, leaving the next level down guys who are just happy to work the plan and stop dithering? The statement sounds positively contented to just be tending his garden uninterrupted so to speak.

    meanwhile Times of Israel is now citing Israeli officials who say the operation is expected to last two to three weeks. “There’s a bank of military targets that we can complete pretty quickly.”

    so… 3 weeks, bro?

    “The arrogant dictator of Tehran has become a scared murderer who fires at Israel’s civilian home front in order to deter the IDF from continuing to carry out attacks that are destroying his capabilities,” said Defense Minister Israel Katz, only to then promise that “residents of Tehran will pay the price, and soon.”

    uh…

    #190060
    Topcat
    Participant

    #190061
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    M e h r News Agency gives this ‘live update’ from Tehran –

    TEHRAN, Jun. 17 (MNA) – Iran launched a new round of retaliatory missile and drone attacks on Israel on Monday night.

    The unprovoked Israeli aggression on Iran’s soil left Tehran with no choice but to defend the Iranian nation and the country’s security by hitting back at the criminal Zionists. As part of its retaliation, Iran fired a massive barrage missiles toward the occupied territories of Palestine on Monday night

    The spokesman of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), General Ali Mohammad Naeini: We do not allow enemy to have a moment of peace. The operation is carried out with crushing and destructive power… the 9th wave of Operation True Promise III kicked off and will continue until dawn.

    en.mehrnews. com/live/233234/Iran-launches-wave-of-attacks-on-Israel

    #190062
    Topcat
    Participant

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