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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle March 19 2018 #39519
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    Did you see the videos of Russians at the voting booth?
    Some people were filling in and putting absentees ballots into the box.

    (As if that would change the results!!!)

    The system is working as it was designed to work by the elites.

    in reply to: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot #39491
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      “the level of insanity everywhere is startling.”

    Its too late to wake up!
    Its time to take another pill.
    Remember
    ( 5. The members of the elite class will always try that the non- elites should not influence social, economic and political processes in any manner.)

      … We (or they) sold every living thing out of the United States,…

    Where does the money for “buy-back” end up?
    Maybe, …. “buy-back” should be renamed “refund”

    in reply to: 1984 Is Not The Future #39471
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    @ Professorlocknload
    Without the internet, as my source of knowledge, I would have been left confused

    Pareto’s Circulation of Elites: Characteristics and Criticisms

    Pareto’s Circulation of Elites: Characteristics and Criticisms

    I would classify myself as to being an elite in the category of irrelevant and invisible non-elite.

    ( 5. The members of the elite class will always try that the non- elites should not influence social, economic and political processes in any manner.)

    in reply to: 1984 Is Not The Future #39469
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    Is democracy dead? if voting is denied.
    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-russia-election-ukraine/kiev-plans-to-prevent-russians-in-ukraine-from-voting-in-russian-election-idUKKCN1GS29L?src=ilaw
    KIEV (Reuters) – The Ukrainian Interior Ministry will not allow Russian citizens in Ukraine to vote in Russia’s presidential election after Moscow decided that the vote would also be held in Crimea.
    Russia seized the Black Sea peninsula from Ukraine in 2014 and has since treated it as Russian territory despite economic sanctions from the West. As a result, polls will open in Crimea on Sunday to allow residents to vote in the Russia-wide ballot.

    As part of his campaign for re-election, President Vladimir Putin visited Crimea on Tuesday and addressed a crowd of cheering supporters with a speech that emphasised Russia’s claim to the territory.

    in reply to: 1984 Is Not The Future #39468
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    la-la-land was so sooooting
    innocence of children
    reality means pain
    pain means taking pain killers

    in reply to: 1984 Is Not The Future #39465
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    I agree … I use a lot of salt

    … information overload
    … less capable of separating chaff from wheat.
    …an overload of bullshit and propaganda
    … a world in which all words and images are suspect
    … ‘Ordinary people’ have already lost their capacity to tell truth from fiction.
    … when photoshopping and video manipulation were still easily detectable. That window is closing fast.
    A program developed at Stanford University allows users to convincingly put words into politicians’ mouths. Celebrities can be inserted into porn videos. Quite soon it will be all but impossible for ordinary people to tell what’s real and what’s not.
    … anyone with a computer can now engage in the weaponization of information; 2016 was the year we woke up to the power of fake news,

    I would add …

    Confuse the masses by using many different word that mean the same thing
    Confuse the masses by using words that they do not regularly use
    Confuse the masses by using words used by the educated elite
    Confuse the masses by inventing a new expression to describe an old situation.

    MY REMINDER
    Definition:The Onion
    “Occasionally, the straight-faced manner in which The Onion reports non-existent events, happenings and ideas has resulted in third parties mistakenly citing The Onion stories as real news”.
    Definition: Propaganda
    Propaganda is information that is not objective and is used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is presented.[1] Propaganda is often associated with material prepared by governments, but activist groups, companies and the media can also produce propaganda.
    Definition: Fake news
    Fake news is a type of yellow journalism or propaganda that consists of deliberate misinformation or hoaxes spread via traditional print and broadcast news media or online social media.[1] Fake news is written and published with the intent to mislead in order to damage an agency, entity, or person, and/or gain financially or politically,[2][3][4] often using sensationalist, dishonest, or outright fabricated headlines to increase readership, online sharing, and Internet click revenue.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 16 2018 #39445
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    The system is working as it is intended.

    More pain killers will be required.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 14 2018 #39433
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 14 2018 #39424
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    What!!!
    How dare anyone accuse the west of doing “false flag, propaganda, etc /sac

    • False Flags for Newbies (Dmitry Orlov)

    “… in close coordination with the British government and the press, poisoned Skripal and his daughter using a nerve agent…”

    FACT CHECK
    #1. “… the only thing he’s done recently was coordinate with Steele on the discredited Trump dossier, how dangerous could that be? …”

    The Trouble With the Steele Dossier
    The Steele dossier should be treated with caution.

    FACT CHECK # 2
    Honey Trap!!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels
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    • The Retirement Crisis: The Elderly Are Broke (GT)

    The system is working as it was designed to work.
    (…people are going to be relegated to paupers, serfs, and beggars without hope….)

    Wake up!
    Its time to take your pain killer pill.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 13 2018 #39402
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    @ Dr. D
    “… “flexible” money supply. …”

    Hummm!
    Saudi Arabian seems to be the biggest fool.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 13 2018 #39395
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    Does anyone buy steel that they don’t need?
    Does anyone buy steel that they cannot afford?
    Does anyone make steel at a loss?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 12 2018 #39378
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    Info on student loan
    Where did the money come from?

    A nation can print additional currency to cover payments on debts owed by issuing securities including Treasury bills and bonds. While this provides a mechanism to make payments, it does carry the risk of devaluing the nation’s currency.

    Read more: Budget Deficit https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/budget-deficit.asp#ixzz59YMZJmcS
    ==============
    Should the rich, (those who do not have earned income), get a student loans?

    Yes, the Catch-22 of student financial aid is that the more money you have, the less you’ll be eligible for. That’s enough to make anyone wonder if it isn’t better to just spend it all and have nothing in the bank in order to qualify for the maximum amount of grants and loans.
    But that catch mainly applies to earned income.

    (Earned income includes any income that a person or company receives for work they have done – AKA “personal efforts”. If you collect regular dividends from a stock, or receive a monetary gift, that money would be considered unearned income because you didn’t do anything to earn it.)

    Whether you are an adult student going back to school or the parent of a student headed to college, the Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA) form (used for Stafford Loans, Perkins Loans or Pell Grants), does not require you to report the value of your primary residence (if you own a home) or the value of your retirement accounts. This means that if you want to save money without compromising your financial aid eligibility, you can do so by using your savings to buy a house, prepay your mortgage or contribute more money to your retirement accounts. The savings you put into these assets can still be accessed in the event of an emergency, but you won’t be penalized for them.
    Another issue is that even if you employ all the legal strategies available to you to maximize your financial aid eligibility, you still won’t always qualify for as much aid as you need, so it’s not a bad idea to have your own source of funds to make up for any shortfall. (If you make a loan, its a good idea to be rich.)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 11 2018 #39366
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    Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump should be nominated for 2019 Nobel Peace Prize.

    Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump to meet by May

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/trump-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-possibly-fake

    The Peace Research Institute of Oslo (Prio) said in early February that Trump’s name was on the list.
    Updated 28 February

    Each year, nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize must be submitted by January 31. Among those entitled to propose names are members of parliament and government, former laureates and some university professors.

    The Nobel Institute said it had received 329 valid nominations for the 2018 Peace Prize. The five members of the Nobel committee that selects the winner are also allowed to submit names during their first meeting of the year, which was held on Monday.

    The name of the 2018 winner will be announced in early October.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 11 2018 #39365
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    Austerity is imposed so that the rich will be able to benefit from their bad decisions.
    You can read all the other excuses at wiki

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austerity
    Austerity policies <delmay also appeal to the wealthier class of creditors, who prefer low inflation and the higher probability of payback on their government securities by less profligate governments.

    A typical goal of austerity is to reduce the annual budget deficit without sacrificing growth. Over time, this may reduce the overall debt burden, often measured as the ratio of public debt to GDP.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 10 2018 #39355
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    A REMINDER

    Definition:The Onion

    “Occasionally, the straight-faced manner in which The Onion reports non-existent events, happenings and ideas has resulted in third parties mistakenly citing The Onion stories as real news”.

    Definition: Propaganda

    Propaganda is information that is not objective and is used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is presented.[1] Propaganda is often associated with material prepared by governments, but activist groups, companies and the media can also produce propaganda.

    Definition: Fake news

    Fake news is a type of yellow journalism or propaganda that consists of deliberate misinformation or hoaxes spread via traditional print and broadcast news media or online social media.[1] Fake news is written and published with the intent to mislead in order to damage an agency, entity, or person, and/or gain financially or politically,[2][3][4] often using sensationalist, dishonest, or outright fabricated headlines to increase readership, online sharing, and Internet click revenue.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 9 2018 #39345
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    Thanks.
    I didn’t realize that it did not work.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 9 2018 #39340
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    I have looked at many sites to find out if fentanyl is addictive or could be a substitute for opioids pain killers.
    Here is one.
    https://www.drugs.com/sfx/fentanyl-side-&#8230;.
    At my age, I still don’t want to get addicted.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 6 2018 #39278
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    WOW!
    Russiagate!

    They are the most powerful, organized, knowledgeable, and financed organization in the world.
    They were in Germany and the latest place was in Italy.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 6 2018 #39277
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    @ D. S.
    “… conversation at gatherings of elite politicians and financial fraudsters. …”

    So far … I’ve been invisible and irrelevant
    I’m still here.
    However, I will not make a good toilet cleaner for them.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 6 2018 #39271
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      “… In the U.S., $65,000 was found to be the optimal income for “feeling” happy….”

    So, now I know why I don’t know anyone that is happy. (ignorants, idiots, children, drunks and addicts are exempted)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 4 2018 #39240
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    Here is something interesting

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html
    COUNTRY COMPARISON :: GDP – PER CAPITA (PPP)
    Example:
    USA $59,500
    Canada $48,100

    This has to be adjusted by cost of living.
    https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/comparison.jsp

    example:
    You would need around 4,502.82$ (5,802.08C$) in Toronto to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 7,400.00$ in New York, NY (assuming you rent in both cities). This calculation uses our Cost of Living Plus Rent Index to compare cost of living. This assumes net earnings (after income tax). You can change the amount in this calculation.

    Average Monthly Net Salary (After Tax)
    New York 4,168.93 $
    (5,371.86 C$)
    Toronto 2,535.56 $
    (3,267.18 C$)

    If your take home pay is less than what is shown, then you are in trouble if you live in those two cities.

    If your income is less than the GDP (USA $59,500 Canada $48,100) then you are in trouble.

    Geeee!
    The majority of people are in trouble.
    It’s zerosum.
    It’s not news for the readers that are here.
    Some people are getting a lot more than most people.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 4 2018 #39239
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    “… currency manipulation and tariffs alone won’t bring about economic prosperity and stability….”

    The pie is only so big. The pie does not grow.
    Your piece of pie can only get bigger if someone else gets a smaller piece of pie.

    Austerity will happen at the same rate of 3-4% rise in population.

    That is called zerosum.
    The reverse of austerity can result if population is reduced by 3-4%.
    @ aximoron
    “Permaculture is a dirty word to me right now and I’m thinking poison and guns and dogs and fences and netting and ground water pumping and all that stuff that kills wildlife so that I can eat”.

    A pack of wolf need to kill a deer per week to survive. That requires a herd of +52 deer.
    If they don’t get deer then they’ll get your domesticated animals and you will do without.
    There is not enough for both.

    “… it’s us or them…”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 3 2018 #39213
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    https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/25/europe/russia-sanctions-explainer/index.html

    Measuring the impact of sanctions on Russia’s economy is not an exact science, and different experts have different opinions.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 2 2018 #39197
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    A while back, someone told me, “The best winning strategy was don’t play.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 26 2018 #39125
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    I need a Buyback clarification.

    “… households and institutions (insurers and pension funds) have sold a net US$672 billion and US$1.2 trillion respectively over the same period, …”

    Does this mean that they sold/liquidated some of the stocks/investments that they had so that they have cash to meet their outflow obligations/requirements.

    If so, then I would think that this would be a good thing because their remaining stock/investments is going up and the future dividends would be going up.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 25 2018 #39101
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    Are you good at analysing data?

    https://open.canada.ca/data/en/dataset/f064a144-b4e0-4e9b-9970-e0fc2f84d1a8

    Canada Pension Plan (CPP) and Old Age Security (OAS) Annual Statistics Tables
    CPP and OAS Annual Statistics Tables contain historical data on CPP and OAS, average monthly benefits and net payments in fiscal years.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 25 2018 #39099
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    The number of old people are increasing.

    The pension fund shortfalls problem will disappear If there is an increase in the number old people that are starving to death, freezing to death, dying from opioids overdose, and just dying of old age.

    hummm!

    Just wondering how to save the system.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 24 2018 #39087
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    The big lie … A person cannot be happy, in our society, without borrowing

    The quoted number is 60% who are living pay-check to pay-check.
    A sub category of that 60% are those that have no debt and are not homeless.

    Consumers have become accustomed using easy credit to maintain a lifestyle unaffordable for them otherwise. If this trend continues, and facts indicate that it will, we will be facing a monumental credit crisis in the near future. A huge portion of credit card debt is the interest. Credit cards are a convenience and consumers readily pay for the privilege.

    The wealthy can absorb the losses but the poor and middle class will face financial ruin.

    Do you remember?
    Credit cards did not exist for consumption.
    Line of credit were for businesses to meet theirs expenses until their sale income were deposited.
    Mortgages were available for 3X your income.
    Higher education was affordable.
    Health care did not require unafordable health insurance.
    Middle class moms could afford to stay home to raise the kids.
    Bullies existed and always had victims

    Yesterday is gone!
    In the future, Bullies will still be victimizing 90% of the population.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 23 2018 #39073
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    My apologies for missunderstanding.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 23 2018 #39070
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    olo530

    “If those 50,000 didn’t develop a circle of friends to support them it’s on them, not on the system.”

    WHAT!
    You are advocating a support system that is run by War lords …. tribal chiefs …. survival of the fittest

    Your proposal should be effective in reducing the human population to less than a billion.

    Maybe, just maybe there are multiple paths to achieve your objective.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 23 2018 #39066
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    There is an expression, that is used in a different context

    “Read them and weep”

    Soon. Sooner than you think, news articles like the following will be banned from being printed.
    The news media has stopped talking about a lot of bad things that are happening around the med.

    • 50,000 Die In UK ‘Cold Homes Public Health Crisis’ (Ind.)

    The number dying each year is similar to the amount who die from prostate cancer or breast cancer. A total of 168,000 excess winter deaths from all causes have been recorded in the UK over the latest five-year period. Of 30 countries studied, only Ireland has a higher proportion of people dying due to cold weather.

    There is an other expression about “a frog and boiling water”

    If the bad stories are too much and too fast, then the stories of the casulties will be divided into sub-parts. ie. deaths by opiods. Death by multiple causes.

    Did you ever read about, “death by poverty caused by a failing capitalist social/economic system”

    in reply to: Aid for Sex #39012
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    If birth control pill were given out the problem would cease to exist

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 19 2018 #38961
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    Is the following real news!!!

    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/thirteen-russians-ands-ham-sandwich/
    https://kunstler.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Yeltz.jpg
    real?
    Remember that one from 1996? Funny, that was the American mainstream media bragging, after the fact, about our own meddling in another nation’s election.

    WASHINGTON — A team of American political strategists who helped [California] Gov. Pete Wilson with his abortive presidential bid earlier this year said this week that they served as Russian President Boris N. Yeltsin’s secret campaign weapon in his comeback win over a Communist challenge.
    —The Los Angeles Times, July 9, 1996

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 19 2018 #38960
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    Buybacks and dividends payments are good for those wanting cash.
    Since it is a zerosum transaction, then it must be bad for someone else.
    ====
    At last, some people are brave enough to speakout
    • Ex-CIA Director Thinks US Hypocrisy About Election Meddling Is Hilarious (CJ)

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-19/russian-meddling-gagging-irony

    The foul stench of hypocrisy arises from the long and sordid history of America’s meddling in the internal politics of virtually every nation on the planet-– a deeply entrenched policy of meddling on such a vast scale that the Deep State minions tasked with projecting a wounded astonishment that some foreign power has the unmitigated gall to attempt to influence our domestic politics must have difficulty restraining their amusement.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 18 2018 #38949
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    A buyback is great.
    It gets you out of the ponzi market.
    Its rigged. Its the only way to get out at the top and to get out early.
    Get your money out early and stay rich.
    Put your Buyback money into a real cash flow asset.
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    • Should We Give Up Half Of The Earth To Wildlife? (O.)

    Change the headline to

    • Will We Give Up Half Of The Earth To Wildlife? (O.)

    If you cannot put gas into your gas tank then even the cows will go wild and learn how to survive the 4 legged predators.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 17 2018 #38928
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    Dr. D
    You beat me to it!
    Here is my longer explanation

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah
    The story of the judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah is told in Genesis 18–19

    also
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot%27s_wife

    Another view in the Jewish exegesis of Genesis 19:26, is that when Lot’s wife looked back, she turned to a pillar of salt upon the sight of God who was descending down to rain destruction upon Sodom and Gomorrah.

    There are other stories that are told.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple

    The narrative occurs near the end of the Synoptic Gospels (at Matthew 21:12–17, Mark 11:15–19, and Luke 19:45–48) and near the start in the Gospel of John (at John 2:13–16). Some scholars believe that these refer to two separate incidents, given that the Gospel of John also includes more than one Passover.[4]

    No matter how many societies have benn recorded as being destroyed, we do not listen and keep repeating the same mistakes.

    Will future generations change their way when they hear the stories of the destructions of our existing social/economic systems?

    Naw!
    We are slow learners.

    Bullies and victimes cannot change.

    or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog

    A scorpion asks a frog to carry it across a river. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung, but the scorpion argues that if it did so, they would both drown. Considering this, the frog agrees, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When the frog asks the scorpion why, the scorpion replies that it was in its nature to do so.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 15 2018 #38901
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    Its too later to stop borrowing money that will not be paid back.

    Its too late to impose gun control to preserve a social/economic system that does not exist

    If gov. try to take away the gun it will cause the revolution, by the victims, against the gov.
    Gov., (bullies) fear taking away the guns from the “victims”, (the 90%)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 15 2018 #38900
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    Too many expert authors are lying by omission.

    We have created an unstainable social/economic system which has been evolving too long.
    I repeat this system is unstainable.
    90% will not be returning to the same social/economic system with which they know and grew up.

    Do you remember?

    Credit cards did not exist for consumption.
    Line of credit were for businesses to meet theirs expenses until their sale income were deposited.
    Mortgages were available for 3X your income.
    Higher education was affordable.
    Health care did not require unafordable health insurance.
    Middle class moms could afford to stay home to raise the kids.
    Bullies existed and always had victims

    Yesterday is gone!
    In the future, Bullies will still be victimizing 90% of the population.

    in reply to: The Lies and the Narrative #38864
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    When I was young, I experienced a simpler world.
    When I was young, a person lied.
    When I was young, Gov. used propaganda.
    When I was young,, “Fake news” did not exist

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
    Propaganda is information that is not objective and is used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is presented.[1] Propaganda is often associated with material prepared by governments, but activist groups, companies and the media can also produce propaganda.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news
    Fake news is a type of yellow journalism or propaganda that consists of deliberate misinformation or hoaxes spread via traditional print and broadcast news media or online social media.[1] Fake news is written and published with the intent to mislead in order to damage an agency, entity, or person, and/or gain financially or politically,[2][3][4] often using sensationalist, dishonest, or outright fabricated headlines to increase readership, online sharing, and Internet click revenue.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2018 #38863
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    Its all about:
    1. sex
    2. power
    3. money
    4. fear (Victims fear the bullies.)

    Its a good thing that there exist “religion/morals” to moderate the actions of the “bad” people

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