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ParticipantTime discreteness: Yesterday, today, tomorrow
https://ctaps.yu.edu.jo/physics/MBAltaie/Time-in-Islamic-Kalam.pdf
Discreteness applies not only to material bodies but to space, time, motion, energy (heat) and all other properties of matter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_particle
A point has position, location, in time and occupies 3 dimensions in space and has a duration in 3 dimension. It has volume.
Today, energy (heat) is referred to as EMF. It does not have volume. It occupies volume.
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Participant@ koso_man
All the good sayings have been co-opted by the religions.
Communication is hard. It can mistaken and misunderstanding.
For instance: I read a sub-thread in your words, you are of the opinion that the elite should control the non-elite.
Hummmm!zerosum
Participant@ Chris M
“Being a bully is how empires die.”
If your are being bullied and cannot defend yourself, console yourself because …you have no other choice
https://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/32-35.htm
… Vengeance is mine …
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ParticipantRe.: Islamic civilization (Thanks for that paper on time)
We, (the common people), (the non=elite); are just coming out of the dark ages.The web is helping us acquire knowledge that use to be only available to the wealthy and the powerful.
That knowledge does not make us into elites.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalam
Even though seeking knowledge in Islam is considered a religious obligation, the study of ‘Ilm al-Kalam is considered by Muslim scholars to fall beyond the category of necessity and is usually the preserve of qualified scholars, eliciting limited interest from the masses or common peoplezerosum
ParticipantOpps!
I forgot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shayrat_Airbase
Shayrat Airbase (FAA LID: OS65) is home to the Syrian Air Force 50th Air Brigade located in Homs. It has two runways and around 40 hardened shelters.
According to the Trump administration, the base is also believed to contain a chemical weapons storage depot.[2]On 6 April 2017, on the orders from U.S. President Donald Trump, USS Ross and USS Porter (both based in the Mediterranean) fired 60 Tomahawk missiles at Shayrat airfield, with 59 reaching the base, according to the CBS Evening News, in response to a suspected chemical attack in the town of Khan Shaykhun in the Idlib Province.
RT says only 23 of the 59 Tomahawk missiles launched at Syria hit their targets. CBS says 58 of 59zerosum
ParticipantBloggers are irrelevant.
Lets look at Homs in Syria where the chemical were suppose to be stored for the alleged chemical attack at Dourma.
Homs has only been under control since May. 1, 2017.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homs#Economy
Homs is also home to several large public heavy industries, such as the oil refinery west of the city which opened in 1959
A new sugar refinery is being built by a Brazilian company, and an automobile plant is under construction by Iran Khodro. Also a new phosphate plant and oil refinery are being built east of the city.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Homs
On 13 March 2017, the first batch of remaining rebels in the Waer neighbourhood agreed to leave Homs with their families and depart to Jarabulus.[379] The evacuation of rebels along with their family members began on 18 March.[380] On 27 March, 1,850 rebels and residents departed the neighbourhood in 45 buses.[381] A final batch of 3,000 people, including 700 rebels, left Homs on 21 May. 1, 2017, 150 rebels chose to stay and surrendered their weapons. With this, the Syrian government regained full control of Homs.[
Israel Attacks Syrian Airbase in Homs
At least 12 dead in heavy strikes on baseJason Ditz Posted on April 8, 2018
Locals reported over 20 missiles hit the site, and Syrian media initially expressed the belief that this was a US attack. The Pentagon denied involvement, however, and both US and Russian officials have since confirmed the attack was Israeli.https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/04/us-syria-strike/557552/
General Joseph Dunford, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said three facilities were struck: the first a scientific research center in the Damascus area; the second a chemical-weapons storage facility west of Homs, which he said the U.S. “assessed … was [the] primary location of Syrian sarin;” and third, another chemical-weapons equipment storage facility and command post. There was no coordination with Russia on the strikes, nor was Moscow informed, he said.
He said Syria had launched 40 surface-to-air missiles in an attempt to shoot the allied weapons down, but that most of them had been fired after the last Syrian target had already been destroyed.
The three bases targeted were the Barzah Research and Development Centre in greater Damascus, the Him Shinshar Chemical Weapons Storage Facility, west of Homs, and the Him Shinshar Chemical Weapons Bunker Facility, just more than four miles from the storage facility.zerosum
ParticipantLet’s do some math.
100 – 70 means that aprox. 30 missiles hit 3 targets and cause no damage to the stored chemical weapons.
So-o-o-o the USA claim to have had a success.Hehehehehehe
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ParticipantIf you shoot some 100 piece of iron into the sky, its going to comedown somewhere and cause damage.
If you blow-up some 70 pieces of iron into the sky, with more iron, its all going to come down somewhere and cause damage.
If you fire a bullet into the sky its going to come back down and cause some damage.
Last night it rained so hard that it woke me up. Fortunately, the rain did not cause any damage.
Critical thinkers are communicating at Zero Hedge.
There is an cyber attack on my computer which seems to be originating from ZH
What about you?
Do you think that it is coincidence?zerosum
ParticipantDestroying the chemical weapons targets by blowing them up and spreading the chemicals into the environments.
Therefore, this will cause no damage to people or to the environment.zerosum
ParticipantAnderson Coper will soon be in Syria.
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ParticipantMy hearth hurts.
The USA is raining death wherever it goes.zerosum
Participant” … if he knows he will win…”
Define winning.
There are lots of behavior modification games by many players.
In game theory and economic theory, a zero-sum game is a mathematical representation of a situation in which each participant’s gain or loss of utility is exactly balanced by the losses or gains of the utility of the other participants. If the total gains of the participants are added up and the total losses are subtracted, they will sum to zero. Thus, cutting a cake, where taking a larger piece reduces the amount of cake available for others, is a zero-sum game if all participants value each unit of cake equally.
If I get a bigger piece of cake, but if I convince you that every piece of cake are of equal value then I would have won.
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ParticipantBehavior modification-Fake news-Propaganda-Advertising
Behavior modification is based on the idea that good behavior should lead to positive consequences as determined by the originator
And bad behavior should lead to negative consequences as determined by the originator
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ParticipantStay cool!
Anderson Cooper has not arrived in Syria.zerosum
Participant“… if Russia does all these things… they’re so much smarter than us,…”
BUT… BUT… BUT
We keep catching them … SO-O-O-O-O!
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ParticipantNO WAY!
I cannot see any windmills.
I have been invaded by microscopic aliens.
Whistle to make the northern lights dance.
Water is full of living creatures.
NO WATER = NO LIFE.zerosum
ParticipantSyria
I don’t know what it is, but Syria must have something that some rulers want and that its worth sending their best young men to die and to kill and to spend a fortune to get it.MAYBE ITS NOT THE USUAL MOTIVATORS
Money, power, sexzerosum
ParticipantPoliticians are questioning Zukerberg/ facebook on user data.
Politicians need user data to help getting elected.Question … can the fox be allowed to sleep in the chicken coop?
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ParticipantDid millionaires lose money gambling with bitcoin?
Did ordinary people, 60% who are one paycheck from bankruptcy, gambled with bitcoin?
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ParticipantWhat do the mentally unstable people do in the USA?
Hint …. McCain and Boltonzerosum
Participant“… John McCain was in Syria last week on a secret visit….“
NOOOO!
It must be coincidence! It must be fake news!He must have gone to the holy land to ask for forgiveness.
He must be trying to avoid hell and trying to get into heaven.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theoryzerosum
ParticipantHERE IS AN IDEA!
China will sell their products to everyone IF they pay in Yan.
Hehehehehe
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Participantlike it or not … we are a intelligent bag of mobile bacteria.
Its a good thing that we cannot see them with our eyes. It would be gross
Maybe an alien would be stupid enough to land on earth.
Earth is full of life that exist between freezing point of water and boiling point of water that is ready to get into every crevice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gut_flora
“The microbial composition of the gut microbiota varies across the digestive tract. In the stomach and small intestine, relatively few species of bacteria are generally present.[9][10] The colon, in contrast, contains a densely-populated microbial ecosystem with up to 1012 cells per gram of intestinal content.[9] These bacteria represent between 300 and 1000 different species.[9][10] However, 99% of the bacteria come from about 30 or 40 species.[11] As a consequence of their abundance in the intestine, bacteria also make up to 60% of the dry mass of feces.[“zerosum
ParticipantThe last article was written 15.01.2017
Federico PIERACCINI projections have not come true.
“In this fourth and final analysis I will focus on a possible strategic shift in the approach to foreign policy from Washington. The most likely hypothesis suggests that Trump intends to attempt to prevent the ongoing integration between Russia, China and Iran.”What Trump say and what Trump does are not the sole factors in this game.
Its hard to play the game when the participants are not playing the same zero-sum game
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theoryzerosum
Participant“…The empire collapses from within, to the total surprise of historians of the 1%, and the total lack of interest of the 99%, for whom it had already collapsed decades before….”
…what do we do with 200 million unemployed?…@ Dr. D
Good! You have an optimist message.
You are also part of the 99%
We, bloggers, will not live long enough to experience your projections.zerosum
Participant@ V. Arnold
I don’t have a way to get out of our predicament.
Nor can someone a lot smarter than me find a solution.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=233277There is no hidding below the horizon of those that have the wealth and power.
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ParticipantIf we are being played, (used), manipulated,
Can anything be done to stop it?zerosum
Participant“… the only people acting are oligarchs for their own interests …”
Second that thoughtzerosum
ParticipantWhat can the bloggers and their followers do?
The bloggers have more resources than the students and the students were able to mobilize 1 million.
See this site.
https://www.youthempower.com/toolkit-103502.htmlMaybe its time to stop talking and time to do something that will make a difference.
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Participant” … the brainchildren of the best that the best among us have to offer….”
” …They don’t all work the exact same way, which may make it harder to recognize what they have in common. For some it’s easier to see than for others. It’s also difficult to list them all….”
You forgot to list the following groups …
You forgot to list the impact that they have on our social/economic systems
They are the unrecognized and the unappreciated
They are blinded by their big ego
They are invisible and irrelevant.
The bloggers, the commenters, the prophets, the fact checkers,
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ParticipantWe are invisible and irrelevant.
The street people already know that.
The street people will be among the survivors.zerosum
ParticipantGuess what … I still don’t know why our social/economic system are not changing.
There are thousands of critical bloggers and 10,000 of critical commentators.
Almost all of the bloggers are in the 10% and/or are in the well-to-do educated middle class.
Almost all stand to be the biggest loser if their la-la-land were to change.A million student marched to influence the law makers to change the gun laws.
Guess what … the students outnumber the bloggers.
I think I got it …..
Those that have the power and the wealth needed to make changes are called the elites.
The only change that the non-elite will achieve will be the change that the elites find good for themselves.
We are invisible and irrelevant.zerosum
ParticipantHi bluebird!
I’m sure that you have noticed how many time and the may different ways that the same messages are repeated at https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?forum=Market-TickerYet
Karl cannot change the system.
and
I know that my influence is even less effective.zerosum
ParticipantSummary (Yes, in case you didn’t notice, I’ve said these things before)
I have been reading and commenting on this blog since it started.
I learned how our social/economic system operates and why those systems can and do collapsed.
Now, except for details, I feel that we are all on the same page and agree on most thingsNothing stays the same. Change is in the air.
Yesterday is gone
Tomorrow is here.Are we any different than Don Quixote with our comments on the blogs?
Did we make a difference with our comments?
Why do we keep making comment?
We are not changing the system.We are not changing anybody’s opinions.
Why do we keep doing it? Why do we keep crying wolf?There has always been writers, (since before Jesus), warning the populations of impending doom.
Lot’s wife… gone-middle east civilizations ..gone-.new world civilizations … etc.Yet … I’m here, you are here. We are the children of survivors.
Fact Check with a grain of salt
(Propaganda, false news, lies, exaggeration, dramatization, brainwashing. indoctrination, disinformation)
Are we prophets? Are we fact checkers? It doesn’t matter. The elites are not listening.
I say,” Put away your ego,
We are invisible and irrelevant.”1. Every month 15-20,000 young Greeks leave Greece.
2. A huge caravan of over 1,500 refugees are heading to the southern border of the USA.
3. Close to 700,000 Rohingya refugees have fled to neighboring Bangladesh since last August
4. The Government of Canada resettled more than 25,000 Syrian refugees between November 4, 2015 and February 29, 2016. Our commitment to resettling Syrian refugees to Canada continues in 2017. Welcomed in Canada
40,081 Syrian refugees have arrived in Canada since November 4, 2015
Data as of January 29, 2017
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refugees/welcome-syrian-refugees/key-figures.htmlMillions of people are on the move,
millions are trying to find a place to survive,
millions are leaving their ancestral homes.
Millions are dying.https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-01/peak-fragility-why-middle-east-doomed
Authored by “Ehsani” – a Middle East expert, Syrian-American banker and financial analyst who visits the region frequently and writes for the influential geopolitical analysis blog, Syria Comment.
Are we good non-elites?
http://www.yourarticlelibrary.com/sociology/paretos-circulation-of-elites-characteristics-and-criticisms/43779( 5. The members of the elite class will always try that the non- elites should not influence social, economic and political processes in any manner.)
Will our gran-kids survive?
Why is it important for them to survive?
Why would anyone want to survive and be in pain with no access to pain killer?Someone who is qualified, needs to nominate Kim Jong Un for the Nobel Peace Prize. The USA should be ignored because ….
“It’s one of those stories of the century that somehow never gets treated that way. For an astounding 25 of the past 26 years, the United States has been the leading arms dealer on the planet, at some moments in near monopolistic fashion”
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/04/us-arms-machine-wars-r-us.html
By William D. Hartung, the director of the Arms and Security Project at the Center for International Policy and the author of “Trends in Major U.S. Arms Sales in 2017: A Comparison of the Obama and Trump Administrations,” Security Assistance Monitor, March 2018. Originally published at TomDispatch
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I don’t know why I persist with my endeavorszerosum
Participant@ V. Arnold
Right!
Time for me to return to my invisible role.
The stage is yours.zerosum
Participant” … Mr Liu is on a “dishonest personnel” list … “
We are all on some kinds of LISTS.
Think about it.
We have been evaluated, judged and listed.
Listing is required to make a social/economic system function.
I’m on the non-elite list.zerosum
Participant” … Mr Liu is on a “dishonest personnel” list … “
We are all on some kinds of LISTS.
Think about it.
We have been evaluated, judged and listed.
Listing is required to make a social/economic system function.
I’m on the non-elite list.zerosum
ParticipantYesterday is gone
Tomorrow is here.https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-30/israel-deploys-tear-gas-drones-gaza-protesters
Israel’s decision blend high-tech drone technology coupled with chemical weapons against civilians paints a turbulent outlook for spring uprisings in the region. Nevertheless, please do not mention this technology to the countless militarized police forces across the United States; otherwise, this dystopian technology is coming to a town near you.
Protestors will need to arm themselves against drones if they wish to protest
Law enforcement will use increasingly deadlier force against rebels who disobey orders to disperse.
This time, 7 deaths and over 500 injuredzerosum
ParticipantAre we any different than Don Quixote with our comments on the blogs?
I’m telling the truth.
Cross my hearth and hope to die.
Laugh and the world will laugh with you1. thousands of retailers out of business! because they are losing money
2. expel diplomats and save money
3. • Yulia Skripal No Longer In Critical Condition (G.) smile, your on candid camera
4. • UK Household Spending Hit Six-Year Low In 2017 Amid Brexit Inflation (PA) Stop laughing .. its true
5. • Tesla Recalls 123,000 Early Model S Cars (BBG)
• Volkswagen Stores 300,000 Diesels Across US (R.)
• Trump Says US Withdrawing From Syria ‘Very Soon’ (AFP)
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ParticipantThere were no working cameras anywhere , in England,that caught any suspect of doing any suspicious activities.
All the cameras need replacing.
/sac“… evidently the hundreds of ‘experts’ involved in the case have not yet been able to locate the ‘nerve agent’. “
Those “expert” know. However, since they are smarter than me, they are not telling me because I’m not smart enough to understand.
/sacI remember a story about crying wolf too many times. Also, another story about the sky is falling.
The latest story, that I remember, is “The economy is doing great.”(Heheheh … Go visit the Greeks if you don’t believe it)
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