Debt Rattle October 25 2020
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[See the full post at: Debt Rattle October 25 2020]Registered Sex Offender Listing:
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(also see Tara Reade, and others)EXCLUSIVE SOURCE: Biden Daughter’s Diary Details ‘Not Appropriate’ Showers With Joe As Child
(my apologies for re-posting)@ Kimo
“Was I molested. I think so.”That’s quite a post; however, I’m not jumping on the band wagon…
Is it true?
That is certainly the #1 question; I think Biden is scum; but, lets be careful here…The picture of “10% for the big guy” sign looked like El Paso to me. I googled “Trek bike shop, Interstate highway 10”. There are 2 in El Paso and one in Las Cruces that it might be. I wasted about a dozen minutes trying to get google maps street view to give me clear confirmation. There’s one in Phoenix, too, but less gravel lying around in Phoenix.
Oh,… FIDDLESTICKS!
The internet doesn’t want me to post what I need to post, that we all need to see.
I’ll try breaking it into 3 little bites, but it’s the content that is clearly the problematic issue…
https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/10/kennedy-for-president.htmlIt’s all there on the blog. Fist 3 stories are the story:
https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/10/kennedy-for-president.htmlThose who understand that this ‘reset’ is not a reset but rather a whole new proposal on the entire organization of society, but being done through oligarchical methods and without the sort of mandate required in a society governed by laws and not men, are – as we have said – reluctant to admit that a great change is indeed necessary.
Rather, we must understand that the underlying catastrophic economic mechanisms which are forcing this great change exist independently of the coronavirus, and exist independently of the particular changes which the oligarchs promoting their version of a ‘reset’ (read: new proposals) would like to see.
You see, the people and the oligarchs are locked into a single system together. In the long-term, it seems as if the oligarchs are looking for solutions to change that fact, and effect a final solution that grants them an entirely break-away civilization. But at this moment, that is not the case. Yet this system cannot carry forward as it has been, and the Coronavirus presents a reason at once both mysterious in its timing and also profound in its implications, to push forward a new proposal.
We believe that technology is quickly arriving at a point where the vast majority of human beings will be considered redundant. If the technocracy wants to create a walled civilization, and leave the rest of humanity to manage their own lives along some agrarian, mediaeval mode of production, there may indeed be benefits to those who live along agrarian lines. But based in what we know about psychopathy, and the tendency of that among those who govern, such an amicable solution is likely not in the cards.
That is why the anti-lockdown protests are so critically important to endorse. This is precisely because the lockdown measures are used to ban mass public demonstrations, a critical part of pushing public policy in the direction of the interests of the general public. A whole part of the left has been compromised, and rolled out to fight imaginary fascists, by which they mean anyone with conventional social views which predate May of 1968. All the while the actual plutocrats unleash a new system of oligarchical control which, for most, has not been hitherto contemplated except by relatively obscure political scientists, futurists, and science fiction authors.Whose Great Reset? The Fight for Our Future – Technocracy vs. the Republic
Robert F. Kennedy Jr, International Message for Freedom and Hope. Watch the first 20 seconds, please, and get a nice mug of good coffee, because you will have decided to watch the rest. .
This is the time to speak freely, no matter what, and to gather against totalitarianism.
This is what that first essay is about. I realized it in 20 seconds.
This is the most important speech I have heard in decades. Thanks Cat.
Since this is working , now, I patched on #4 from Caitlin in Oz.
https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/10/kennedy-for-president.htmlWhat the Great Reset Architects Don’t Want You To Understand About Economics, Matthew Ehret
The fact of the oncoming collapse itself should not be a surprise- especially when one is reminded of the $1.5 quadrillion of derivatives which has taken over a world economy which generates a mere $80 trillion/year in measurable goods and trade. These nebulous bets on insurance on bets on collateralized debts known as derivatives didn’t even exist a few decades ago, and the fact is that no matter what the Federal Reserve and European Central Bank have attempted to do to stop a new rupture of this overextended casino bubble of an economy in recent months, nothing has worked. Zero to negative percent interest rates haven’t worked, opening overnight repo loans of $100 billion/night to failing banks hasn’t worked- nor has $4.5 trillion of bailout unleashed since March 2020. No matter what these financial wizards try to do, things just keep getting worse. Rather than acknowledge what is actually happening, scapegoats have been selected to shift the blame away from reality to the point that the current crisis is actually being blamed on the Coronavirus! …
When Alan Greenspan confronted the financial crisis of October1987, markets had collapsed by 28.5% and the American economy was already suffering from a decay begun 16 years earlier when the dollar was removed from the fixed exchange rate and was “floated” into a world of speculation.
[American spending in Vietnam caused a hemorrhage of gold out of the country and forced Nixon to default on the gold backed dollar.]
This departure from the 1938-1971 Industrial growth model ushered in a new paradigm of “post-industrialism” (aka: nation stripping) under the new logic of “globalization”. This foolish decision was celebrated as the consumer-driven, “white collar society” which would no longer worry about “intangible things” like “the future”, infrastructure maintenance, or “growth”. Under this new paradigm, if something couldn’t generate a monetary profit within 3 years, it wasn’t worth doing.
Paul Volcker (Greenspan’s predecessor at the Federal Reserve) exemplified this detachment from reality when he called for the “controlled disintegration of society” in 1977, and acted accordingly by keeping interest rates above 20% for two years which destroyed small and medium agro-industrial enterprises across America (and the world). Greenspan confronted the 1987 crisis with all the gusto of a black magician, and rather than re-connect the economy to physical reality and rebuild the decaying industrial base, he chose instead to normalize “creative financial instruments” in the form of derivatives (aka: “creative financial instruments”), which quickly grew from several billion in 1988 to $2 trillion in 1992 to $70 trillion in 1999...
An obvious first step to this recovery involves restoring Glass-Steagall in order to 1) break up the Too Big to Fail banks and 2) impose a standard of judging “false” value from “legitimate” value which is currently absent from the modern psycho that lost all sense of needs vs wants. This would allow nations to re-create a purge of the unpayable fictitious debt and other claims from the system while preserving whatever is tied to the real economy (whatever is directly connected to life). This process is sort of akin to cutting a cancer.
This act would look very similar to what Franklin Roosevelt did in 1933 which I outlined in my recent paper Hyperinflation, Fascism and War: How the New World Order May be Defeated Once More.
At this point nation states will have re-asserted their true authority over the pirates of private finance controlling the Trans-Atlantic financial system like would-be gods of Olympus (unbounded perverted vices and all).
It should be obvious to all that the United States must get its head out of its proverbial ass before it is too late by imposing these reforms onto the murderous sociopaths on Wall Street and London who would rather promote a “Great Reset” onto the world economy under the fog of COVD in order to control the terms of the blowout and also the rules of the new post-nation state operating system which they wish to see brought online as a (final) “solution”.What the Great Reset Architects Don’t Want You To Understand About Economics
From Sister Caitlin, in Oz, by way of Marjorie:
The real debate in US politics is not between the two mainstream factions which agree with one another on virtually everything that matters to every extent that matters. The real debate is those two factions together against those who understand that the entire American status quo needs to be flushed down the toilet.
The real political debate in America is between (A) those who understand that the US empire is the single most destructive force on this planet and is corrupt from root to flower, and (B) those who subscribe to mainstream partisan narratives which by design support the US empire.US Politics Isn’t ‘Polarized’; It’s In Almost Universal Agreement
Essential reading for those scared of the virus
“…. but is it true?”
A grain of salt
only 10% care for the truthhttps://nypost.com/2020/10/24/biden-corruption-claims-all-but-confirmed-with-hunter-emails/
Long-standing claims of Biden corruption all but confirmed with Hunter’s emails
By Peter Schweizer and Seamus BrunerOctober 24, 2020———–
BREAKING: Hunter Biden Leaker Warns ‘There Will Be More Than 10,000 Pictures,’ ‘More and More Videos’
By Cassandra Fairbanks
Published October 24, 2020
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This “corruption by proxy,” in which top leaders keep their hands clean while their family members exploit their association to make fortunes, has been perfected by the “red aristocracy” in Beijing.Cover of the book “Hidden Hand” by Clive Hamilton and Mareike Ohlberg.
In the crucial years 2014 and 2015, Beijing was aggressively expanding into the South China Sea while Obama, Kerry, and Biden were sitting on their hands…
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—-“Politics Can Never Really ‘Follow The Science’ (G.)”
In a way they’re right: life itself is not science. So although we would certainly like and need the best information and predictions, “science” (that is, a bunch a fallible humans of which some minority will inevitably disagree) is only ONE thing we need to consider. Particularly in our careless use of the word. “Science” may say lockdown (it didn’t) but the “science” of the economy might say not to. The “science” of history might say that it would end human rights. The “science” of sociology might say it would injure peoples’ mental health and precipitate 100k young suicides. The “science” of grievance studies, that is to say, ‘politics’, might say that it would wildly and irresponsibly exacerbate income disparity, class warfare, and cause 150 days of violent, nation-ending riots. And beyond all that, we may decide that life itself is not worth living without FREEDOM, to breathe, to talk, to feel the sun on our face, which is neither logical nor scientific, but something much, much more important.
The GOVERNMENT — that is to say, only one and predominantly legal expression of the overall society – has to balance all these things and many more. Like law, of which we have broken all and followed none. No 1A, Speech, Assembly, Religion, and Press, no 4A, search, 5A due process, no 10A, Federal has no authority over states, and expressly not over medical or economic, the CDC, a non-governmental agency is freely abrogating written contracts in express opposition to A1S10 of Federal Law, and about 100 others. Like the courts saying “yes this is totally illegal” and the executives still saying “Don’t care. Make me.” The court does not have a gun-totin’ army. That leaves it to the people.
But one day perhaps science will return. One day we will have laws again. Or rather, laws that apply to THEM, the serial criminals, and not us, poor folks harming no one.
Costco Sells Coronavirus Saliva Test Kits Online — Here’s What They Cost (Fox)
And such test being completely, totally useless as they give unactionable results, days too late. Profits are brisk though! For box stores, megacorps, and billionaires. 0% interest means employees at Costco are replaced by capital assets like robots.
“Long-Standing Claims Of Biden Corruption All But Confirmed (Schweizer/Bruner)”
So strange how this was openly published by The Atlantic(?) in 2015 without comment, highlighting how State Dept was in internal discussions about the dangerous inappropriateness of this, even if only by appearance. Now it never happened. By the same magazines who printed it the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd time. But not now, fellow goldfish. Never happened. It’s cray cray. Who you gonna believe, violent, 5-war-starting, mass-murdering, slave-market-creating narcissists like me or your lyin’ eyes? Why ask? We know the answer. There is never a murder, war, or theft they didn’t like or approve of. “He’s Presidential now.”
“There is a side to Donald Trump that I think he does not get enough credit for,” added Jones, who once served as an adviser for Barack Obama.”
Somehow – and I know you’re all as confused as I – this all stopped and he realized he was a racist the day he announced his candidacy against Hillary. A year before Obama was quoted as saying Trump was the American dream, and top rappers often featured him in their lyrics. Funny ol’ world. Nope. Never happened. He did not donate to those causes and was seen in black charity photos for 30 years. He did not hire the first woman executive to put up a skyscraper in NY. He was not approved of by the King family. He was not the candidate who talked to IceT. Nope, nope, nope. Today is #OppositeDay, and it never happened. We hold the truth to be self-evident: Orange Man Bad.
“before he invaded Europe.” Like everyone I missed that, knowing what was meant. Funny. Nor can Britain “leave Europe”. What was it Patrick Henry said about confusing a nation with its government? All from about the Dog Catcher on up believe the government IS the nation, and therefore any help and strength to the government helps rather than drains the people.
“‘That’s why it is important to have a judge sentencing”
They don’t do this either. A convicted college rapist was given no sentence since having any punishment at all would “ruin his prospects” as a young man, the judge said. Oh and when settled by judge? No appeal. (process, harder…) Then at the federal level, they set the required sentence, including such things as “three strikes”. So if you joyride a car, break a toilet: life sentence. That goes back to Brubaker in 1980, long before today’s complaints. Look if society is no good, and the people are ignorant, vindictive, themselves criminal, nothing you do is going to help. You can only be who you are. You can’t be saved from yourself, and they constantly believe – without evidence as they say – that government officials, drawn from a violently corrupt society, and democratically elected BY a corrupt, violent, Godless society, won’t themselves be violent and corrupt, and moreso. That it beggars logic and could only be believed by irrational ignoramuses proves my point.
How’d that Judge Sentencing work out for Epstein and General Flynn? One, no sentencing despite being convicted, one convicted despite being no case or prosecution. And then there’s Armstrong…
“ Global Wealth Shrugs Off Pandemic To Hit $400 Trillion For First Time Ever (F.)”
I’ve been thinking of this for an article but I can’t put it together. This unscientific, unnecessary, medically-opposed lockdown is just plain old “Forced Austerity”. They couldn’t get their violent, ruinous economic attacks on the poor of England and France, but now they can! They couldn’t get the Pale Horse of eco-fascism shutting down life on earth with a Green New Deal killing millions, now, they can! They didn’t have the support to murder hundred thousands of your countrymen with poverty and despair, shutting off all non-essential health care. Now, they do!
Applause all ‘round! Golf clap: “Good show, old chum!”
Forced. Austerity. That is to say: Murder. Of you. Wealth, your gold teeth, shipped to them. Yay! Please more, we love it! Remember: If you try to stop it, you’re Hitler!
Again, Bezos ALONE made more money on his stock RISE since the pandemic than would pay a $100,000 bonus to EVERY Amazon employee. And they cheer and fight violently to keep his wealth rising, and theirs falling. Bezos say: “Okay, if that’s what you people want!” They can get it good and hard.
“Externalities” is a made-up plug number for…hmmm, “everything in the real world” because economics is not a real science. Because they cannot measure anything, the math based on their fake measurements is not real math. And EVEN SO, they still need a made-up plug-in number to fill the hole. Like in the cartoon equation: “Then a miracle happens” I think you need more work there.
However, there are lots of problems. LIFE is a system of negentropy. That is, it internalizes energy, externalizes waste. Therefore being anti-capitalist is being anti-life. It’s contrary to all living logic. But that would bring in the sober reality that live lives on death. On trading, moving things. This carrot’s life for mine, my life for this worm’s, and so on. They think there’s a one-sided coin, which is childish.
The “externality” of cigarettes isn’t at all – it’s an active profit-maker for the medical industry, and don’t think they don’t know it. The whole system stumbles blindly toward such profits because there are things that annoy enough that we actively fight them, and others where we don’t. It simply chooses where we don’t, and a profit that makes ANOTHER big profit is something we don’t fight. We encourage it with advertising and the profit is invested in protective lobbyist that will REQUIRE the hurtful activity at the end of a gun. You know: like oil.
This isn’t limited to Capitalism. Cartoon: “90% of the world used to live in abject poverty. Answer: Capitalism has failed!’” Somehow the Soviet Union, being part of the system of life, did NOT externalize their costs by polluting every rivers and the native Americans did NOT nearly drive the beaver to extinction. Or the elk, which the Brits actually did. And so on. Big philosophical material here.
I’ll just say again that capitalism, money, is ONE thing and not the world. We are supposed to have a whole society that weighs ALL the things. Particularly religion that we hate so much, and morality we attack on sight. Bo-ring. Neanderthal, non-Progressive thinking. All the kids are doing it. Don’t be to stodgy, this is the new, cool thing!
“Macron Needs Mental Check (BBC) “
He does, I didn’t see why anyone would find that statement controversial. We can follow with every other leader and Europe, and especially all the non-persons in EU Parliament. If you go there, where your votes mean nothing and are mere “advisors” ignored and overwritten by the bureaucracy at whim, you really need your head examined.
The “Spending that doesn’t work” Armstrong feels similarly that inflation/hyperinflation doesn’t occur that way with money and interest rates as Japan showed. However, BTC at $13,000. The Fed has created crypto-accounts for all Americans, and the world is advertising “another Bretton Woods” (i.e. a new currency system and level-set). They’ve cried Uncle and are swapping right now.
“BBC White Helmets ‘Documentary’ Targets Syria War Narratives Challengers (RT)”
The U.N. including their OPCW dept and human-trafficking charity department, can never be discredited. For that would require both logic and shame, and we have neither. What did Russia say that we wouldn’t listen to or negotiate with monkeys or toddles either? As they are “not agreement capable”? We’re not. The Anglos have not signed a treaty in 1,000 years they haven’t broken. Look at the British bill of human rights.
Anybody who’s anybody reads Bernays’ book. It’s on every shelf in D.C. and Madison Avenue. You’re the only one who doesn’t know about it because you – we – are the victim and the target of his work.
Costco is WINNING with this one? Curious to see how consumers will respond. Direct access (on demand) to a high quality/reliable test is appealing. You might have thought that our private insurance companies would have stepped up to provide on demand tests for their customers. We know why they didn’t – because customers would have demanded that it be FREE (considering all that they are paying to have the insurance in the first place). The idea that a company could/should add VALUE to the lives of their customers – and the implementation of a value proposition – shows why Costco is respected and insurance companies are despised.
RE: Hunter. We need to see the bank statements. I am not convinced that the deliverables were in alignment with all the big talk. For those of us who have family members with “challenges” (bipolar, drug/alcohol addiction) – we KNOW there is an endless path of destruction that seems to follow them. Their promises never match the reality on the ground. It’s looking like the email evidence is damming – however how much talk was converted into hard cash?
Thanks for the laugh. Amy Coney Barrett adopting Hunter is a WINNER! BBee WINNING again!!
The Sorrows of the King by Matisse is beautiful. I love the colors and shapes. Everything is in motion. The dancer, magnificent in costume and form, is a momentary distraction interrupting the contemplations of the shrouded artist. The red triangle is….on.
COMMENTARY
Final Nail in Biden’s Coffin: It Looks Like Hunter’s Company Facilitated Sale of Strategic US Manufacturer to a Chinese Defense ContractorCOMMENTARY
Final Nail in Biden’s Coffin: It Looks Like Hunter’s Company Facilitated Sale of Strategic US Manufacturer to a Chinese Defense Contractor
By Jared Harris
Published October 24, 2020Well I finally got around to watching the Social Dilemma this weekend. For those who have not seen it, I recommend it. There are parts where I wanted to yell at the screen. For example, they take it as fact that the Russians interfered in the election — watch for the scene with Vladimir Putin walking up the steps with a big smile on his face — but they try to turn this back against Facebook by saying that the Russians simply used the tools that Facebook created. The other part that I disagreed with was the message that populism on both the left and right is a bad thing. When the center is as corrupt as it is, I think a realignment is necessary, and populism is the catalyst. At this stage, the only way to turn the country around is for people to be marching in the streets. Elections do not work anymore.
RFK Jr is onto something.
There needs to be an uprising against the American oligarchy, the Federal Reserve, the Big Tech monopolies, the corporate media, the TBTF big banks, and the two major political parties. But how is that going to happen if they are all in bed with each other? The power is too concentrated, the propaganda is too sophisticated, and now they control the levers of censorship. Even if you get like-minded people together for a mass protest, they will find a way to discredit it or co-opt it for their own purposes.
What might turn this around and send the pendulum in the other direction? Voting sure as hell isn’t going to change anything. Maybe losing reserve status of the US dollar?
Today’s era first started when Jimmy Carter took the first stabs in the back of the New Deal with deregulation and privatization of the US Government. George W Bush ignited the steam roller when Dick Cheney decided to invade Iraq, based on lies; against the best interests of Americans. Barrack Obama dispensed with the rule of law; deciding that Wall Street is too big to fail. Donald Trump tilted with all his might against La La Land.
2020 became a no choice election during a time of pestilence, universal incompetence, and corruption. The US federal government and the Western Empire fell. The White House continues to be a super-spreader site. We are observers at the end. If the past is any guide to the future, when debts become too great to be paid, they aren’t.
A New Dark Age ruled by feudal Big Men armed with nuclear weapons in walled cities protected against migrations is coming along with mass deaths. Unless a human extinction event occurs first. “Russia is said to have built a new 100-megaton underwater nuclear doomsday device, and it has threatened the US with it.”
Sustainability, ending inequality and costing externalities provide a possible humane future for mankind.
@zerosum
“Someone better than Trump”zerosum, so funny you should say that. I did not vote in the last election, and I refuse to vote in this one. But after the last one, I shrugged my shoulders and said to myself that the silver lining is that Trump’s election might hasten the decline, and therefore be a catalyst. There was talk four years ago about Trump being a disruptor. But then to survive his first term he appointed a bunch of insiders. Wall Street on Parade did a good post last week about how his appointments to the EPA, Labor Department, Interior Department and Education Department have been disasterous — they are all Koch people. And we know all about his military and financial advisors. They simply continued the policies of the Obama administration. And the Bush administration before that. No real change. And Biden promises no fundamental change.
I have concluded that an elected government cannot and will not turn things around.
I would like to see both parties implode. I think we are overdue for a major realignment. I think that more short term change could come from a Biden defeat. The Democrats would go batshit crazy. And that needs to happen. They either need to do some real soul searching (I am not holding my breath), or fragment, or blame the Russians again. They are a bunch of corrupt sellouts. They are not helping the people they claim to represent. They deserve to lose.
At the same time I would love to see the Republicans blow themselves up. But a Trump defeat delays that. They can never win another Presidential election without someone like Trump because they have no ideas, no policies that anyone but the oligarchs will support. If Trump loses this year, maybe he comes back four years later? No way will people ever vote for the likes of the evil villian puppets Rubio, Cruz or McConnell.
Some when you suggest “someone better than Trump” — I wonder who you have in mind.
@ John Day
Good vid, Kennedy is of course spot on.
I’ve been railing for decades about fear; its promulgation by governments; particularly the U.S..
9/11 was the penultimate master stroke for consolidating a fear based society and government in the U.S.; signed, sealed, and delivered…
I’ve said, more than once; I have a saying; fear is a thief; do not let it steal from you.
Never received even one mention about that.
My view askew from 10,000+ kilometers away is: the U.S. population appears to be mentally ill and impotent against the ruling class (whom, by the way, are not elites), but rather the vilest form of scum…
The passivity of the majority is stunning under the circumstances, IMO…
.“fear is a thief; do not let it steal from you”
+1“The passivity of the majority is stunning under the circumstances, IMO…”
What shocks me is how effective the propaganda has been to get the people to buy into the two party system, where there is no meaningful difference in substance — you just have two different brands. Yet massive numbers of people treat the election as if this was a meaningful choice. For those who have not discovered the Jimmy Dore Show, this is a wonderful podcast. Whether you agree with his progressive politics or not, Jimmy is a truth teller, and he has great weekly takedowns of the Democratic establishment. In the most recent episode, he goes back to his show from 2016, where he predicted that there would be fewer deportations under Trump then there were under Obama. And in fact this is exactly what happened. 390K for Obama vs 220K for Trump. Obama puts people in cages and nobody care. But if Trump does it, it puts an ugly face on what has been the bipartisan policy all along, and all of a sudden people are up in arms about the inhumanity of putting people in cages.
The problem is that the vast majority of the people no longer believe in truth. And as they say at the end of the Social Dilemma, once you throw truth out the window, it becomes impossible to have a real conversation, and it becomes impossible to solve real problems.
Some when you suggest “someone better than Trump” — I wonder who you have in mind.
Sorry. I’m inclined to see, in my bad crystal ball, a parallel denouement.
The only savior, that I learned as a young man, was over 2020 years ago.Thanks V.. Arnold.
I caught up on everybody else’s thoughts and comments, too.
My current thesis is that Pelosi is negotiating, not just aa something-trillion COVID package, but an actual transition of power to executive-Trump.
The US and the Western-Empire are in desperate need of an actual executive, and there are just no other candidates than Trump. They could not beat him, and I think they are negotiating to join him, “strange bedfellows” style. What kind of deals can the Clintons and idiot-son Bush heirs get?
I willargue that there must be actual, public demotion, loss of face and loss of property, at the very minimum, in Bush and Clinton families, as well as a lot of deep state hatchet-men, or the restof the world will not believe Trump has come into power.
We’ll see, of course, and soon.Boogaloo
Thanks for that.The problem is that the vast majority of the people no longer believe in truth. And as they say at the end of the Social Dilemma, once you throw truth out the window, it becomes impossible to have a real conversation, and it becomes impossible to solve real problems.
There you go; no argument there…
It’s generally acknowledged it seems, across the world, that the U.S. is in serious decline. Yet nothing changes; full speed ahead into the coming collapse…
Do those in power/control think they are insulated against the fallout from that looming disaster?
May the gods help us if that is the case…@ Boogaloo
I have read some reports regarding 48 deaths attributed to a CV vaccine in SK.
What can you tell me about that, anything?@V. Arnold
The numbers are higher now. Here is the latest:
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/10/119_298250.htmlMy family got the vaccine before the story broke. Odd thing is that none of these deaths were cases of anaphylaxis shock. And it seems few, if any, were accompanied by any flu-like symptoms.
But this is the seasonal flu vaccine, not a vaccine against coronavirus.
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