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    Henri Matisse Nu Blue IV 1952   • America’s Class War Disguised As Race War May Cause A Civil War (Feierstein) • Will Anyone From The Left Realiz
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle October 26 2020]

    #64845
    teri
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    So Trump is really mad at some of the people in the government. He is going to fire their asses right after the election. And he seriously means it this time.

    They are, in fact, awful at their jobs – Haspel, Barr, Wray, Devos – and are actively harming the public weal and ought to go. Now tell me again how they got into their positions in the first place.

    #64846
    oxymoron
    Participant

    This year I have been implementing a climate adapted mixed use forest on a few acres here in Central Victoria. Bunya, Stone Pine, Holm, English and Algerian Oak, Carob, Tagasaste, Acacia Dealbata, Jubea Chilensis etc. There was no top soil – it is post gold rush country where all the trees were removed and top soil washed away downstream to look for the alluvial gold deposits (Castlemaine is the siite of the (once) richest alluvial gold field in world). It’s just clay and slate. Really.
    The point is I went foraging and collected a huge diversity of locally found mushrooms for their spores and threw them everywhere, was kinda fun – and then applied 30 cubic metres of hardwood chips as mulch. Then we received this wonderful La Nina year of well above average rainfall and those baby trees are just loving it.
    The last article you posted really lifted my spirits and validated my extra work. Thank you so much – I want that little forest to be around for hundreds of years.

    #64847
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Wow, Testing = Cases. Who knew? And no deaths. They keep being flatter than flat.

    Remember “Flatten the curve”? And now that it’s flat? “To Infinity! And beyond!!!”

    “Leaflet left on chair of every member of the press”

    Yes, but it’s math, so they can’t understand it. Like garlic and holy water. They’re “Arabic” numbers, you racist.

    “People living under new lockdown rules in Wales have been prevented from buying so-called “non-essential” items, which are being covered with plastic sheeting at supermarkets.” That includes Crisps. Because, only broccoli? Bloombergs says no 40-ounce. You have to buy 3 16-ouncers and toss the bottles. That’s common sense.

    Definition of Forced Austerity. Exclusively on the poor. And wealth transfer to billionaire insiders: you can buy all these items and more in any quantity you like on Amazon.

    Small business: dead. Middle Class: dead. Billionaires: richer and more monopolistic, voracious, and censorious than ever. Don’t try to stop them though: if you do, you’re Hitler! Their roving black-clad army will punch in your teeth in San Francisco. Even if you’re black and they’re white. That’s tolerance! Hitler ate crisps too! That makes you Hitler. I rest my case.
    But it’s not all the mustache-man. No. It’s also the OTHER mustache-man, the one who said, “It’s not who votes that counts. It’s who counts the votes.” PA, key swing state with massive Electors rules that “No signature, no postmark: looks good to me!” after half their election officials quit over such nonsense. So literally everyone in China could mail in a ballot and be legally accepted. Or the residents of all the other states. What? That’s crazy? Well 300 counties have more voters registered than legal residents, so you tell ME what’s going on. And this is not new. Remember Jill Stein recounting Detroit and finding 110% of all citizens had voted? About 101% for Democrats? Then how that story and the recount immediately vanished and nothing was investigated? Good times, good times.

    Like I said, when your whole society is comprised of violent, psychopathic liars, no one can save you from yourself. You get what you deserve.

    What’s that, Agent Smith? “Two of these too big to fail banks recently paid fines in the billions of dollars, yet no one went to prison or even faced criminal charges. This highlights the systemic problem with concentrating capital and power in the hands of the few: too big to fail means corporate wrongdoers have a permanent get out of jail free card while the small-fry white-collar criminal will get a fiver (five-year prison sentence) for skimming a tiny fraction of the billions routinely pillaged by the too big to fail banks.

    The net result is a two-tier judicial / law enforcement system: the too big to fail “essential” companies get a free hand and the citizenry get whatever “justice” they can afford, i.e. very little.” https://www.oftwominds.com/blogoct20/fragile10-20.html

    Or here “They have an “inside track” because they hold the keys to a club that’s off limits to the average American.” You get “All the Justice money can buy.”

    So Amazon can sell billions because they are billionaires who can buy justice, but Omar’s Bodega gets the kind of plastic sheeting they reserve for mafia murders? Tell me again how we should continue lockdowns until 100% of all business has vanished, the middle class is living on the street, and there are only two government-paid and government-protected monopolies left. Because that happens under just this Democratic Socialism, 100% of the time. Killing 100M in no time, just as predicted.

    “Quality has been stripped out as well. When markets become captive to cartels and monopolies, customers have to take what’s available: if it’s poor quality goods and services, tough luck, pal, there are no alternatives. There are only one or two service providers, healthcare insurers, etc., and they all provide the same minimal level of quality and service.”

    Socialism: government protected, government run monopolies. No competition. You get bad shoes or no shoes: your choice. But I hear their bread is so great they’ll wait in line all day! …So long as you’re not a Ukrainian farmer. Then you get bullet to head.

    Here’s an idea: Leave me alone.

    ““You’ll own nothing” — And “you’ll be happy about it.” –Klaus Schwab, EU.

    Klaus? I think that’s total and universal Socialism. Worldwide. Thanks for telling us you plan on stealing EVERYTHING, and like all other Socialists in world history, murder millions. Maybe billions. You could up the ante and win a place in history, with your Pale Horse, Chloros, the Green Rider. It’s not part of the Four Horseman because it can’t keep up with mass-murder of War Horse and the Pandemic Horse. It can and will.

    “The sense of devastation and despair this has created is like nothing I have ever experienced. They have stripped us of everything that gave us joy. Every social outlet, every relief, has been made illegal.”

    Here we are, as predicted since 1947: “A boot stomping on the face of man, forever.” The stomping is its own reward.

    “the movie Mr. Jones… exposes the TRUE STORY of how the New York Times tried to support Communism in the United States back then, with their top journalist, Walter Duranty (1884-1957), who was their main man in Moscow. The New York Times promoted him to be awarded the Pulitzer Prize for that reporting on how Communism was Utopia and our future. When Gareth Jones (1905-1935) in March 1933 reported this was all a lie, the truth finally began to appear.

    It took the New York Times until 1990 to admit to that their reporting which covered up the truth about Stalin and the massive starvation … The New York Times covered up the more than 7 million people who died of starvation in the Ukraine famine. The New York Times wrote that their reporting on the Russian Revolution constituted “some of the worst reporting to appear in this newspaper.” They never revoked his Pulitzer Prize.”

    Just like now. RussiaRussiaRussia. Pulitzer Secured! Irony being, Pulitzer would heartily approve of such war-mongering lies. They were his personal specialty.

    Speaking of, I don’t make enough fun of Dum-dum, since they constantly report lies about him instead of truth. But here for almost a year they could have impeached him on yesterday’s list of offenses, COVID violating the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 10th Amendments – that is, the Bill of human Rights, the first law in the Federal Register, as well as trampling Sec1 of unilaterally suspending private contracts. Add to that the recent trollop about how “Iran is interfering with our elections”, as Cait Johnstone said – and you can read this for yourself – perhaps as many as TWENTY emails were sent! From servers in Singapore, etc. That changed no votes, since voting is private. Twenty whole votes! Oh noes. Clearly they rest assured that Americans are as bad at voting math as they are at COVID math – and they are totally 112% correct. 20 ÷ 330M = 0.000006% voter fraud. Shut it down Mr. President! Attack Iran now!!!

    Do I hear people attacking, defunding, suspending government, impeaching, for such brazen war-mongering lies? At the behest of a small eastern Mediterranean nation whose election-tampering in U.S. Congress is both extensively recorded and legendary? Nope. We MUST attack Iran and Russia on the basis of evidence no one can see except the warmongers themselves and their corporate mouthpieces.

    How about Assange? Is stopping 1A on FOREIGN citizens who have no personal or business jurisdiction in the U.S. what you might call “executive overreach”? I think such Caligula-like madness is clearly deserving of defunding or immediate removal.

    Other lies? Anything about the economy. It’s still frozen. Better than I imagined possible, I concede wrong on that. But this V-recovery is a lie, even if it is recovering as Red states reopen. The market is the biggest lie ever to exist on planet earth, that goes with the lie that there are free markets anywhere. Oh and that’s also in violation of 10A, where there is no mention of running the economy in the Constitution and is therefore expressly prohibited to them. Like Health Care. And Education. And…well, read all the words in Webster’s dictionary, because except for “Post Office”. nearly all the words in there refer to what they are expressly not allowed to do.

    IMPEACH! Oh and defund the military, don’t voluntarily add multi-billions to the secret state. Which is run by Hitler. Lookin’ at you Dems.

    If President Trump wins re-election, he’ll move to immediately fire FBI Director Christopher Wray and also expects to replace CIA Director Gina Haspel and Defense Secretary Mark Esper,”

    And as he already said, Bill Barr, and perhaps replace with Meadows. Thanks Barr! Having Deep Staters like you do the work of rounding up yourselves is its own reward. Like Bolton. When they salted him with fake intel and banished him to outer Mongolia. Remains to be seen tho.

    “Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, and Google—four companies—have a combined market cap (over $6 trillion) that is greater than the GDP of every country in the world…and is the mother of all stock bubbles.” Remember Musk’s Suddenly-I’m-a-convertible-then-explode-into-fire is worth more than VW, GM, Ford, and Honda combined. They make fewer cars than Porsche.

    “NYC Hotel Occupancy Rate Crashes Toward 10% As Permanent Closures Loom (ZH)

    Can’t stop won’t stop until all middle-owners are beaten out and all NY is bought up by multi-billionaires like China and BlackRock. You know, like B-Movie “RoboCop.”

    On positive note: topsoil disappearing into the sea. Yes, because everybody’s in their basement complaining about the environment on PCs powered by coal, eating a 3,000-mile-ceasar-salad. Good practices can CREATE 1” of topsoil/year. …But complaining the GOVERNMENT isn’t doing anything while I sit in my basement not doing anything is much easier. True Virtue.

    #64848
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Way to go Oxymoron! The original research on hardwood chips and their ability to create fungally-dominant soil (helpful to support the creation of those underground communication networks between trees, supporting tree health) was done at Laval University in Quebec.
    Yesterday I finished up my final orchard spray of the season (neem oil, compost tea, effective microbes, liquid fish) — kind of like a natural vaccine for trees to induce systemic resistance to disease.
    Connecting this to covid– all the hand – wringing about when a vaccine will come along, but no talk by our political leadership about how to feed each individual person’s natural immune response (things like don’t kill your intestinal flora by eating antibiotic-laced meat, get your vitamin D, eat fermented foods to build up your intestinal flora which account for at least 70 percent of the body’s entire immune response, eat healthy nutrient dense food so that the body is capable of mounting a response to pathogens).

    #64849
    morongobill
    Participant

    The man who planted the forest. What a legacy.

    #64850
    zerosum
    Participant

    From late yesterday
    @ Boogaloo

    https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/10/119_298250.html

    From the koreantimes
    1. monitoring any possible links between vaccines and deaths, given that a total of 1,231 people had reported side effects as of Sunday after getting the shots this year.
    ( What about a link with side effects other than death)
    2. an effort to prevent the potential “twindemic” of COVID-19 and flu during winter

    ( Has there ever been negative effects with the accumulated different yearly vaccines?)
    3. Considering that flu vaccines cause antibodies to develop in the body about two weeks after vaccination
    (Why would the human body make C19 antibodies faster???)
    ( Explain why C19 can travel around the world, care homes for the seniors, faster than a plane)
    I tried, unsuccessful, to go to Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency (KDCA) and look at their data to see if they had answers for my questions. I found the best info from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_South_Korea

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    @ Dr. D
    You are confusing me.
    Who is going to be making things worst? Who is going to make things better?
    1. The capitalist or the socialist?
    2. Having a gov. or no gov.?
    3. Having a change or no change?
    4. Having C19 or not having C19
    5. Getting news or not getting news
    6. Voting or not voting?

    #64851
    Geppetto
    Participant

    “Soil fungi act like a support network for trees, study shows
    U of A research is first to show that growth rate of adult trees is linked to fungal networks colonizing their roots.”

    It’s hard to believe that these guys have the balls to say they are first? WTF? The guy that told this to me 50 years ago and learned it from the women that told him 50 years before that are turning over in their graves…we’ll maybe not ….because if in fact they were buried in the ground without being embalmed or cremated their little constituent components are probably already part of a tree!

    Duh! Did they not watch Avatar?…..or ever hear, “pushing up daisies”…? But yea they are doing a *study*……

    #64852
    John Day
    Participant

    Right On, Oxymoron!
    Really doing the work and comprehending the processes of complex living systems, a Steward of Life…grove
    Later this morning I’ll tack on a photo of my late-middle-aged body broadforking the clay soil for the banana grove, towards which end V. Arnold has given helpful advice (Nem Wa cooking bananas; Lady Finger bananas)
    Another good rant , Dr.D., but is there another layer of life-organization at work, like those mycorrhizal networks? It’s an important systems analysis question.

    #64853
    Geppetto
    Participant

    John Day,

    You probably read this but just in case:

    Masanobu Fukuoka ” The One Straw Revolution”. 1975

    #64854
    John Day
    Participant

    How do living ecosystems on Earth organize? We know a lot of details, and we get hints that the mycorrhizal fungal networks connecting the roots of forest trees are a living communications and resource sharing network.
      We may personally know the experience of serendipity, and of synchronicity in our lives, but the alternative hypothesis, that it was just chance, can’t be disproven to others.   I believe that I can know a level of “transpersonal” connection to life and “universal mind”, but I don’t think I can convince you in writing, nor should you be convinced by the related experiences of another. (You might be spurred to consideration and to self-investigation.)
     There is no “objectivity”. Objectivity is a useful construct, but it’s just a construct. Observing “reality” forms it. It’s not formed without observation. All observations influence the process they observe, and its outcomes. In a mundane way, all information has a cost, and is shaped by the priorities and mechanisms of its funding.
      What is the cost of a mycorrhizal network, and how is it paid? “Root fungi” form extended organisms, connecting tree roots near and far, of similar and dissimiar types. The roots give out nutrients that feed the fungal network, and the network provides information, such as the approach of bark-beetles, so that a tree might prepare noxious chemicals within itself to deter them. We can get our conceptual heads around this, and see how the investment in this symbiotic relationship benefits all the participating life forms.
      What we observe lately, in the workings of human political economy, is the promise to engage symbiotically, while the fungal network actually completely digests the smaller trees and bushes in  the forest. This can be good for the fungal network, until it is catastrophic.
      We are “shrubberies” in this model, maybe toadstools.
      We are not so connected by pheromones as ants, bees and wasps are, but are we connected through a neural network of mind? Are we bioreceivers with smartphone minds? Just askin’
    Ever know something and act upon it, then realize you had no particular way to know it? Maybe not.
    Ever know something before it happened? “Deja vu”; is it just a feeling, always?
      Bear with me, if you would, in considering how things might play out if living systems work in coordination to advance the complexity and abundance of contributing life forms over the long term.
      We are a species that coordinates actions in space and time, through symbolic modeling and communication, even across centuries. We are highly social, highly cooperative. We are currently the ultimate apex predator, shaping all of the global ecosystems, and knitting them together.
      Yeah, and currently sterilizing them through fire and fossil fuels, mined minerals, and fossil water.
    This is a passing phase. We can model that. We see that the models all say that we can pull up coal, oil, natural gas, water and ores until the fuels run too low the keep the complex mining economy intact and operational. Then that will stop, and it will be hard to do it at all, because we got all of the easy stuff first, and the machines to get the deeper, lower quality stuff, are now broken.
      What if that’s not “bad”? Might this serve the complexity of planetary living systems? We are brining up carbon and water to the surface, where life thrives. Life needs carbon and water. There was no other particular way that stuff was going to get into living ecosystems. We might do as much of that job as we can ever do pretty soon, since we’ve built up such vast machinery at this point.
      Maybe this is that old argument that, “we live in the best of all possible worlds”.
      Do we have any agency? I feel like I have agency, but I feel differently about it than “I” did 30 years ago, and that was different from 40 years ago, and so on. I feel a tremendously broader agency and responsibility to and stewardship towards planetary life than I did before. I sure felt responsible to nurture and protect my kids, but that is now very broadly generalized. It’s not diffused, but broadly generalized. Solving problems at each level of life-organization is wickedly booting me up to broader responsibility, which I never sought. I wanted local solutions, weather the storm in a lifeboat, but I kept getting whacked by the broader picture, the inter-relatedness of it all.
      i didn’t mean to sign up for this, but here i seem to be, growing 3 vegetable gardens, expanding every winter, testing and treating people for what sickens their bodies and minds, riding a bike, being a husband, father and grandfather, caring, asking for guidance…
      So, I ask, “What is the body-politic?”
      One of the first things we learn when studying our minds is that there are all these secret decision and perception pathways, that actually make us want stuff and do stuff, and the/wey are not what we thought, “friends” and “enemies”. Those are archetypes, a secret pattern language in our brains and bodies.
      Carl Jung got to this point of inherent human neural patterns, to which we fit our lives and experiences, and the broad similarity of these patterns in human organisms. He saw the implied resonances of common worldview, common experiences, cooperative benefits for survival, and the variability within those patterns.
      We have come to the apogee of species success. Here we stand, ready to make ourselves extinct all at once, through this vast miracle of cooperative endeavor. We are aided, this time, by the windfall inheritance of vast fossil fuel energy. Is this completely different? We have, as smaller groups (though still vast, sometimes) faced this impasse of final success before, again and again, sometimes surviving to rebuild.
      Do we have any species failsafes? Can we postulate something on the fly, which might already exist, to save us from our ultimate success?
      I ask a pretty feeble question. It’s the question I inherently face. So do we all. I am my own probe into the nature of reality, and this will probably go better if there is a mycelium of benevolent living consciousness to direct me to beneficial roles I might play for the whole super-organism.
      I am stuck with the assumption that any such broad consciousness, into which I may integrate somewhat, and from which I may take guidance, has been around so long that it intends to keep being around.
      That’s as far as postulates seem to take me. What does that mean for our current moment in politics, if anything? What should we best do today?
      How should we cooperate for the common good, when most of the channels of communication and control seem to be controlled by a parasitic class, which forms an amplified microcosm of the very same questions I ask myself in your presence today?

    #64855
    John Day
    Participant

    @Geppetto: I wanted to use One Straw Revolution as a cookbook, but it wasn’t.
    There’s really no cookbook, just examples of process.
    Man, what a lot of work!

    #64856
    Geppetto
    Participant

    John Day.

    Really good stuff! Those are all the right questions because they are the questions about what to DO. For me I suppose simply; do I *feel* like I am a part of everything or separate from everything? I know I feel better when I feel I’m part( of the wonder filled world not that other one we beat on here) …but yeah… the urge to agency thing tends to get away.

    Thanks you! Appreciate the thought and *work* on that too!

    #64859

    Very happy that the fungi piece got the conversation going. And of course I have to add this animation from my old Québec stomping grounds, which you can’t miss if you’ve ever planted even just one tree, or even if you haven’t.

    The Man Who Planted Trees

    #64860
    zerosum
    Participant

    We are a bag full ….
    ” …. if there is

      a mycelium

    of benevolent living consciousness to direct me to beneficial roles I might play for the whole

      super-organism

    .”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycelium

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superorganism

    Some scientists have suggested that individual human beings can be thought of as “superorganisms”;[10] as a typical human digestive system contains 1013 to 1014 microorganisms whose collective genome, the microbiome studied by the Human Microbiome Project, contains at least 100 times as many genes as the human genome itself.[11][12] Salvucci wrote that superorganism is another level of integration that it is observed in nature. These levels include the genomic, the organismal and the ecological levels. The genomic structure of organism reveals the fundamental role of integration and gene shuffling along evolution

    Superorganisms are important in cybernetics, particularly biocybernetics. They are capable of the so-called “distributed intelligence”, which is a system composed of individual agents that have limited intelligence and information.[22] These are able to pool resources so that they are able to complete goals that are beyond reach of the individuals on their own.[22] Existence of such behavior in organisms has many implications for military and management applications, and is being actively researched.[22]

    Superorganisms are also considered dependent upon cybernetic governance and processes.[23] This is based on the idea that a biological system – in order to be effective – needs a sub-system of cybernetic communications and control.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life

    The tree of life is a fundamental widespread (mytheme) or archetype in many of the world’s mythologies, religious and philosophical traditions. It is closely related to the concept of the sacred tree.[1]

    The tree of knowledge, connecting to heaven and the underworld, and the tree of life, connecting all forms of creation, are both forms of the world tree or cosmic tree,[2] and are portrayed in various religions and philosophies as the same tree.[3]

    #64861
    straightwalker
    Participant

    @John Day
    I second geppetto.
    You have to answer these questions to your own satisfaction (relief), of course, but there are clues.
    Many of Jung’s patients were older. He said that most of their difficulties were, in the last analysis, religious (in “Memories, Dreams, & Reflections”?). Feynman’s quote, a couple of days ago, gets at it in his funny faux flippant way: “No one ever figured out what life’s all about. And it doesn’t matter anyway.”
    The willfulness, that enables us to get things done, can also interfere with accepting our unknowable place in the unknowable. I have lots of trouble with that. But to trust that one has a place is quite wonderful.

    #64862
    John Day
    Participant

    Blog’s up, and there is a picture of me very slowly broadforking what will be a banana grove next month(ish). I am “misusing” the broadfork to invert the top 6-8 inches of dense clay soil. leaving it broken open, for me to amend the expanded shale, which holds air and water. I’ll then plant the banana plants that I have in pots on the back patio in Austin. Anyway, it is so much more work than I recall, but I face the same thing every time.
    Why can’t I remember how hard and slow it is? Is it like forgetting the pain of childbirth or something?
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/10/the-body-politic.html

    #64863
    John Day
    Participant

    https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/10/the-body-politic.html
    Charles Hugh Smith:
    ​ ​What few seem to realize is all the supposedly rock-solid permanent foundations of life are nothing more than fragile social constructs based on trust and legitimacy. Once trust and legitimacy have been lost, these constructs melt into the sands of time.
    ​ ​A great many things we take for granted are fragile constructs that could unravel with surprising speed: law enforcement, the courts, elections, the value of our currency– these are all social constructs. Once legitimacy is lost, people abandon these constructs and they melt away.
    ​ ​It’s clear to anyone who isn’t indulging in magical nostalgia that trust in institutions is in a steep decline as the legitimacy of these institutions, public and private, have been eroded by incompetence, corruption, dysfunction and the rapacious self-interest of insiders.
    ​ ​What we’ve gotten very good at is masking the rot and fragility. Masking the rot and fragility is not the same thing as strength or permanence. The nation is about to discover the difference in the years ahead.
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogoct20/fragile10-20.html

    ​The Federal Reserve System has a plan to save us from the long term side effects of the Federal Reserve System, which have impoverished society as a whole, while multiplying the wealth and power of those who are members of the system, and share it’s benefits.
    The Fed will create digital money, and give it to you, and track every transax=ction, and it can take money or participants out of this system at any time, as well as putting them into the system. It will require a vast, global communications and confirmation network to function.
    What could go wrong? For whom?​ Under what circumstances? What might be the next fix, if any?
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogoct20/fed-tyranny10-20.html

    Jonathan Cook: Capitalism is double-billing us: we pay from our wallets only for our future to be stolen from us
    ​ ​Here is a word that risks deterring you from reading on much further, even though it may hold the key to understanding why we are in such a terrible political, economic and social mess. That word is “externalities”.
    ​ ​It sounds like a piece of economic jargon. It is a piece of economic jargon. But it is also the foundation stone on which the west’s current economic and ideological system has been built. Focusing on how externalities work and how they have come to dominate every sphere of our lives is to understand how we are destroying our planet…

    Capitalism is double-billing us: we pay from our wallets only for our future to be stolen from us

    #64864
    Geppetto
    Participant

    @straightwalker wrote:

    “The willfulness, that enables us to get things done, can also interfere with accepting our unknowable place in the unknowable. I have lots of trouble with that.”

    Include me in that buddy!

    Fristen’s Free Energy principle:

    #64866
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    What an absolutely fantastic commentariat today; well done all of you…
    🙂

    #64867
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    @zerosum

    I am not sure I understood the questions. This article has more information, including a breakdown of the cases: http://www.monews.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=214756 (but you will need to run it through a translator)

    For perspective, 14 million people have received the influenza vaccine in Korea so far this year.

    So far, ZERO actual cases of influenza this season according to the weekly influenza reports on the KDCA (fka KCDC) website:
    https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30504000000&bid=0033

    With everyone being so careful this year, I predict that this flu season will be a nothingburger here.

    #64869
    zerosum
    Participant

    Got it! No problems.
    http://www.monews.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=214756
    Professor Chung said, “Our country currently supplies a total of 12 kinds of influenza vaccines as part of the national vaccination project, and these cases of deaths are not limited to specific products or regions, and the hasty estimation of the correlation between vaccination and post-vaccination deaths implies a logical flaw.”

    #64871
    zerosum
    Participant

    Here is what my bad crystal ball sees.

    Pole say, “Biden sweeps.”

    What if Trump believes that there will be a “Biden sweeps”?
    What will Trump do until he has to leave the building?

    Trump has a temper, holds grudges, does payback for perceived insults.

    Therefore, I expect that Trump will
    1. Try to put a lock on all the changes that he has made.
    2. Leave obstacles on the road for Biden.
    3. Approve more spending than what the people/economy can absorb.
    4. Do a 4yr. and $48 million inquest, impeachment on Biden, called “China-China-China
    5. leave the piggy bank empty

    #64872
    John Day
    Participant

    Yes, V.Arnold, I agree that this is a good day for us, here. Thanks everybody.
    John-maximizing-evidence-of-John’s-separate-existence-as-his-brain-inverse-models-the-world-it-separates-from

    #64873
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    John Day’s stream of consciousness flows toward the ocean of inseparable waves where surfers come and go as part of the unfolding.

    May you surf every wave you can, every day you can.

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