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René Magritte Empire of light 1950

 

Stupid Is Supposed To Hurt (Denninger)
Only Half Of Israelis Want A Third Covid-19 Vaccine Shot (JPost)
233 Staff at 2 San Francisco Hospitals Test Positive in July (NW)
Pfizer, Moderna, Hike Prices For Covid Jabs By Up To A Quarter For EU (RT)
Apple Removes Dating App For The Unvaccinated (RT)
Is Covid-19 On The Run In The UK? (G.)
Experts Fear Unlocked UK Could Become Incubator For New Covid Variants (CNBC)
Major Unions Push Back Against Biden’s Vaccine Mandates (ZH)
Kamala Harris A ‘Historically Unpopular’ VP (RT)
Keeping Freedom Alive (Craig Murray)

 

 


Fort Mill South Carolina 1902. Smallpox, an actual vaccine.

 

 

The Sake of Freedom

 

 

But can my stupid hurt someone else please?

Stupid Is Supposed To Hurt (Denninger)

I’m getting reports from all over the place, including on my forum and mailbag. Nurses are walking out en-masse over vaccine mandates in hospitals and other care settings. This of course leads to demand shifting to other places where they haven’t done so (yet), but that’s a problem too because they’re short-staffed as well. This isn’t a big deal — other than wildly increasing wait times — until and unless you have something going on where waiting could kill you, such as a heart attack. You aren’t seeing these events in the news. Guess why? Yeah, that’s why.= Guess where else this is going to happen? “You didn’t want the firemen to show up and put out your house that’s on fire, did you?


Well, better buy more garden hose because in several large cities it’s been made clear that they will not comply either. Ditto for Streets/San guys. Oh, you want the garbage hauled away? Too bad so sad.” Stupid is supposed to hurt. It’s going to, especially now that it has been admitted that (1) the CDC lied about “unvaccinated are 98% of deaths” when they knew damn well the jabbed were dying on a vertically-accelerating basis in May, we’re two months further down the road now and (2) the CDC has also admitted that those who get “breakthrough” cases are ending up with equal or higher viral loads than unvaccinated people, which means there is no public health argument for the jabs at all since at best they can only protect you and not others.

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Back to last night’s discussion:

Yes, they were sold as protecting against infection of both you and those around you. Or no-one would have accepted the term “vaccine”.

“*Only* 59% of respondents said the vaccine protects against infection, 69% said it prevents the spread of the virus and 82% said it protects against developing symptoms.”

And even the most vaccinated country in the world is only at 60%. Try get that to 70%. Good luck. “But it’s our only chance!” No, it’s not. We’re lucky.

Only Half Of Israelis Want A Third Covid-19 Vaccine Shot (JPost)

Only 52% of Israelis who received two shots of the COVID-19 vaccine said they would take advantage of the opportunity to receive a third shot, according to a survey released Friday by Prof. Michal Grinstein-Weiss, director of the Social Policy Institute (SPI) at Washington University and a visiting professor at the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya. When looking at those under the age of 60, only 47% said they would take the shot. Among those 60 and older, 67% said they would get the booster. “We decided, ‘yalla,’ [let’s go] even before the Food and Drug Administration [gives emergency approval], and I think the Health Ministry thought there would be more inclination” to get the shot, Grinstein-Weiss said. “But there is a big drop in the number of people who are interested in vaccinating. It’s surprising, but there is not a real desire for a third vaccination.”

Israel opened up third shots to people over the age of 60 last week. Several thousand people were inoculated on Friday and, despite what the survey shows, already more than 40,000 elderly have signed up to get the jab this coming week. Surveys taken before the COVID vaccine came to the country showed there would be high degree of vaccine hesitancy among the public, but Israel became the quickest country in the world to vaccinate the majority of its people. [..] The survey also asked whether or not parents would give their younger children between the ages of five and 11 a vaccination if it became available and the majority (54%) said they would not. Only 23% said they would vaccinate, while 23% said they were wavering. When broken down between parents who vaccinated themselves versus those who didn’t, no parents who did not receive the vaccine said they would vaccinate their children, while only 27% of those vaccinated said they would.

[..] When it comes to children, parents are most concerned that health officials still do not know the long-term impact of the vaccine. To date, only 35% of people under the age of 20 are fully vaccinated versus 90% of those over the age of 60. However, the survey also found that as the Delta variant spreads across the country, including reinfecting a high percentage of vaccinated individuals, more people believe that the vaccine does not work. Only 59% of respondents said the vaccine protects against infection, 69% said it prevents the spread of the virus and 82% said it protects against developing symptoms. Around 53% of all new cases are people who were fully vaccinated, according to the Health Ministry.

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Twist and turn all you want, but it’s the vaccinated.

233 Staff at 2 San Francisco Hospitals Test Positive in July (NW)

At least 233 staff members at two major San Francisco hospitals, most of them fully vaccinated, tested positive for the coronavirus this month, and most, according to a hospital official, involved the highly contagious Delta variant. Some of the cases were asymptomatic, most involved mild to moderate symptoms and only two required hospitalization, officials said. The infections were determined to be Delta-related because most samples in San Francisco were tested for the variant, which is now dominant in the city. About 75 to 80 percent of the more than 50 staff members infected at Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital were fully vaccinated, Dr. Lukejohn Day, the hospital’s chief medical officer, said in an interview on Saturday. The University of California, San Francisco Medical Center said in a statement issued on Friday that 153 of its 183 infected staff members had been fully vaccinated.

The statement from the U.C.S.F. Medical Center said that two of the infected staff members required hospitalization. None of the infected staff members at San Francisco General have been hospitalized and most had mild to moderate symptoms, Dr. Day said. The asymptomatic cases were discovered through contact tracing. Without vaccinations, Dr. Day said, the hospitalization rate would be much worse. “We’re concerned right now that we’re on the rise of a surge here in San Francisco and the Bay Area,” Dr. Day said. “But what we’re seeing is very much what the data from the vaccines showed us: You can still get Covid, potentially. But if you do get it, it’s not severe at all.”

On July 11, San Francisco ordered that workers in high-risk workplaces, including hospitals, be vaccinated by Sept. 15. The U.C.S.F. statement said that the hospital was “doubling down on our efforts to protect our staff. This includes requiring all employees and trainees to comply with the new UC-systemwide Covid-19 vaccination mandate, with limited exceptions for medical or religious exemptions.” Staff members at both hospitals have continued to wear personal protective equipment, Dr. Day said. But the number of staff infections reported in July is about as many as during the peak of the winter surge. “We’re nervous that we could potentially exceed it,” Dr. Day said.

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Before they all find out these things don’t work, might as well squeeze out what we can.

Pfizer, Moderna, Hike Prices For Covid Jabs By Up To A Quarter For EU (RT)

Pfizer has reportedly raised the price of its Covid vaccine dose by a quarter, with Moderna also ramping up the price in its latest deal with the European Union. The two are making tens of billions of dollars in pandemic profits. According to the Financial Times, which has seen contracts between the two pharmaceutical companies and the EU, Pfizer’s latest price for one vaccine dose was €19.50, or around $23 – up by four euro from the previous unit price of €15.50 euro. Meanwhile, Moderna’s latest price is around €21.50 ($25.50) per dose, up from the previous price of €19 ($22.60). Despite this, the Moderna price is still lower than previously expected – $28.50 – because of the EU purchasing more doses.


Pfizer and Moderna – which earn a profit from the vaccines, unlike AstraZeneca, which is sold at cost – have pulled in tens of billions of dollars from the vaccines, with Pfizer forecasting $33.5 billion in revenue from its doses in this year alone. The forecast is up $7.5 billion from its previous prediction in the last quarter. Moderna, though behind Pfizer in sales, is forecasting $19.2 billion in Covid-19 vaccine revenue for 2021. Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine still hasn’t been approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) despite having been registered in 69 of the world’s countries to date, including EU members Hungary and Slovakia.

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No worrries, Big Brother shall protect you.

Apple Removes Dating App For The Unvaccinated (RT)

Apple has removed the dating app Unjected, marketed as a “safe space” for unvaccinated Americans, from its store, saying it “inappropriately refers to the Covid-19 pandemic.” The app’s developers say this amounts to censorship. Unjected describes itself as a “platform for like-minded humans that support medical autonomy.” The dating app has been pitched as a ‘safe space’ of sorts for unvaccinated Americans looking to date without the pressure of being or not being inoculated against Covid-19. Critics, however, have viewed the app as a growing social-media platform for anti-vaxxers and a hotspot of Covid misinformation. After the app was removed from Apple on Saturday, the company blasted the move as “censorship.”

“Apparently, we’re considered ‘too much’ for sharing our medical autonomy and freedom of choice,” the company said in a Saturday statement posted to Instagram. The app remains on the Google Play store, but they acknowledge that the move by Apple may mean a website may be Unjected’s best option moving forward so that they are not reliant on app stores. Other dating apps such as Tinder and Bumble have introduced features to encourage vaccinations, making Unjected stand out even more after launching in May. But the boiling point for the platforms was reached after Unjected added a social feature that allowed more general postings. It was flagged by Google after Unjected’s moderators were accused of not doing enough to police misinformation on Covid-19 and the vaccines available.

In response to Google’s concerns, the social feed was removed, though co-founder Shelby Thompson wants to soon reintroduce it and the flagged posts. “We’ve had to walk a censorship tightrope,” she said, according to Bloomberg News, which first reported Apple removed Unjected on Saturday after being contacted by a reporter about the app. The app also includes lists of businesses that disagree with vaccine mandates. Apple has already had issues with Unjected, initially denying approval for the app during its initial review process. Changes had to be made for it to get approval to be in compliance with the company’s strict policy on Covid-19 “misinformation,” but a spokesperson for Apple said updates to the app, as well as statements made to its thousands of users, have brought it back out of compliance.

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That can’t be! How are we going to sell our clickbait?

Is Covid-19 On The Run In The UK? (G.)

The fact that we are a year and a half into the pandemic and are still being wrongfooted by Covid-19 may seem surprising. After all, in that time, we have developed powerful vaccines to protect against it and have pinpointed critically important drugs to treat patients. Science has worked wonders. Nevertheless, researchers are still very unsure about how Covid-19 will progress in the UK in the coming months. The statistics have certainly been startling. First, case numbers rocketed at the beginning of July. Then they reversed and began to fall, leaving statisticians and scientists struggling to make sense of the fluctuating figures. For good measure, a host of conflicting factors has been put forward to explain Covid case numbers.

Has the opening up of society on 19 July had a major impact? Did Euro 2020 propel the virus through the homes and pubs of England? Could the UK be approaching herd immunity? And what impact have the school holidays had on the progress of the disease? Untangling these factors, as well as understanding the exact impact vaccines have had on society, has now become a complex, urgent business. “It will tell us just how bad things are likely to get when society really opens up in September and October and as winter approaches,” said Edmunds. There is clear agreement on one factor, however. All the evidence indicates that vaccines are now playing a pivotal role in controlling the disease. Had the government completely opened society on an unprotected populace, daily death tolls would by now have soared into their thousands. But just how far has our vaccine protection reached?

It is a crucial question, whose answer will determine just how severe will be the return of Covid-19 in the autumn as schools reopen, the weather chills and people head indoors. A key factor is the degree to which the country has achieved herd immunity. In other words, will we have reached the point where so many people have been either infected or vaccinated – and therefore possess some immunity to the disease – that viral transmission falls or even stops? “You can run some very simple models to see if the case numbers that we saw earlier this month are consistent with effective herd immunity,” said Prof Mark Woolhouse of Edinburgh University. “And in my view the answer is, yes, it is. There are some big caveats but the bottom line is that those figures are consistent with the impact of herd immunity.”

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Amid all the fear, new infections were down 37% in one week. Like a deflating puffed-up balloon.

Experts Fear Unlocked UK Could Become Incubator For New Covid Variants (CNBC)

England’s relaxation of Covid-19 restrictions is risking the emergence of new, potentially more dangerous variants of the virus, scientists have warned. England lifted most of it last remaining restrictions on July 19, including mandatory mask-wearing and social distancing. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland still have some restrictions in place. U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson has previously described the easing of restrictions as “irreversible.” However, the reopening policy has been publicly criticized by a consortium of more than 1,200 scientists from around the world. One concern is around the possible consequences of unlocking society amid high infection rates and a partially vaccinated population, and how unrestricted mixing under those circumstances could shape the way the virus evolves.

“If I were to design a massive experiment to create a more dangerous virus, one that is capable of blasting through our vaccines, I would do what the U.K. is proposing to do,” Michael Haseltine, a U.S. virologist and chair and president of ACCESS Health International, told news show Good Morning Britain on so-called “Freedom Day”. “Half the population vaccinated in the midst of a rampant pandemic, which would allow the virus to learn how to avoid our vaccines. That’s what I would do, and the rest of the world is justifiably concerned.” Each time a person is infected with Covid-19, they go from having a few copies of the virus to hundreds of thousands or even tens of millions of copies in their system. When the virus makes a copy of itself, there’s a chance it might make a mistake in the new copy that could inadvertently give the virus an advantage.

“You’re rolling the dice every time someone’s infected,” Charlotte Houldcroft, a scientist working on virus evolution at the University of Cambridge, told CNBC via telephone. “In a big population with lots of infections going on, you’re just rolling the dice more often — any population with lots of people infected at once is a worry, which is obviously why a lot of the rest of the world is watching the U.K.” During the week ending July 29, 204,669 people tested positive for Covid-19 in the U.K., down 37% from the previous week.

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US mandates is/are asking for disaster.

Major Unions Push Back Against Biden’s Vaccine Mandates (ZH)

Last week, the Biden administration announced sweeping vaccine requirements for federal workers (except, oddly, postal workers). The day before, the nation’s biggest union boss, AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, parroted Biden’s push to vaccinate, and said that the union organization supports vaccine mandates. As it turns out, much like in California – not all unions are on board. While labor groups representing federal workers have urged their members to get the jab, most of the leading public sector unions either oppose vaccine mandates or say that it must be negotiated first, according to The Hill. Groups representing educators, postal workers, law enforcement officers, Treasury Department personnel and other government employees expressed unease about the vaccine requirement this week.

Only a few public sector unions outright endorsed the measure. “We expect that the particulars of any changes to working conditions, including those related to COVID-19 vaccines and associated protocols, be properly negotiated with our bargaining units prior to implementation,” said Everett Kelley, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents nearly 700,000 workers. Meanwhile, National Treasury Employees Union President Tony Reardon says that his group has “a lot of questions about how this policy will be implemented and how employee rights and privacy will be protected.” And in yet another example, Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association President Larry Cosme said in a statement that mandating vaccinations “is not the American way and is a clear civil rights violation no matter how proponents may seek to justify it.”

According to the report, most public sector unions sounding the alarm over Biden’s vaccine mandates previously supported most aspects of his policy. “In order for everyone to feel safe and welcome in their workplaces, vaccinations must be negotiated between employers and workers, not coerced,” said American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten earlier this week. And the American Postal Workers Union said “it is not the role of the federal government to mandate vaccinations for the employees we represent,” adding that any new rules for its workers would need to be run past union leaders.

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Put her in charge of the mandates.

Kamala Harris A ‘Historically Unpopular’ VP (RT)

Kamala Harris has become the most unpopular vice president six months into an administration in years, according to recent unfavorable polling for the former senator. Harris found her future hopes of ever becoming president a point of mockery over the weekend as critics jumped on a report indicating that recent polling shows she has become the least popular vice president six months into an administration since the 1970s. According to a report from the Telegraph, Democrat strategists have internal worries about the controversial politician, describing her polling as “underwater” at this point. Two recent polls cited by the report show approval ratings of 46% in both, but disapproval ratings of 47% and 48%.

Harris is also struggling with support among significant and influential voting groups, such as young people and Hispanics. An Economist/YouGov poll showed only 36% of respondents between the ages of 18-29 viewed Harris “favorably.” In a recent aggregate put together by RealClearPolitics, 46% also said they viewed Harris unfavorably, three points higher than Biden at the same time. In a poll posted by the Telegraph on Twitter in a thread regarding worries about Harris’ unfavorable view among much of the public, over 50% of over 40,000 voters – as of this writing – said Harris is doing a “bad job.” Approximately 20% said she is doing a “good job,” and another 27% were “not sure.”

Harris has made some noticeable stumbles as vice president. She was heavily criticized for continually avoiding the southern border when put in charge of historic levels of migrants being detained there. When questioned why she hadn’t visited months after being named a leader on the crisis by Biden, Harris responded by saying she also hadn’t visited Europe yet. Harris is still being handed opportunities to succeed as she will soon become the first US vice president to visit Vietnam next month. Harris’ polling and reports on Democrats’ concerns about the California senator who once attempted to run for president and even clashed with Biden made the vice president a point of mockery for critics.

“You have the media on your side and basically nothing to do except for optics and you just can’t do it. It’s amazing,” Federalist editor Christopher Bedford tweeted. “So weird that making her Border Tsar didn’t work,” Texas Monthly editor Christopher Hooks added.

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Craig Murray reported to prison yesterday. Who in the UK stands up for him?

Keeping Freedom Alive (Craig Murray)

I want to make one or two points for you to ponder while I am in jail. This is the last post until about Christmas; we are not legally able to post anything while I am imprisoned. But the Justice for Craig Murray Campaign website is now up and running and will start to have more content shortly. Fora and comments here are planned to stay open. I hope that one possible good effect of my imprisonment might be to coalesce opposition to the imminent abolition of jury trials in sexual assault cases by the Scottish Government, a plan for which Lady Dorrian – who wears far too many hats in all this – is front and centre. We will then have a situation where, as established by my imprisonment, no information at all on the defence case may be published in case it contributes to “jigsaw identification”, and where conviction will rest purely on the view of the judge.

That is plainly not “open justice”, it is not justice at all. And it is even worse than that, because the openly stated aim of abolishing juries is to increase conviction rates. So people will have their lives decided not by a jury of their peers, but by a judge who is acting under specific instruction to increase conviction rates. It is often noted that conviction rates in rape trials are too low, and that is true. But have you ever heard this side of the argument? In Uzbekistan under the Karimov dictatorship, when I served there, conviction rates in rape trials were 100%. In fact very high conviction rates are a standard feature of all highly authoritarian regimes worldwide, because if the state prosecutes you then the state gets what it wants. The wishes of the state in such systems vastly outweigh the liberty of the individual.

My point is simply this. You cannot judge the validity of a system simply by high conviction rates. What we want is a system where the innocent are innocent and the guilty found guilty; not where an arbitrary conviction target is met. The answer to the low conviction rates in sexual assault trials is not simple. Really serious increases in resources for timely collection of evidence, for police training and specialist units, for medical services, for victim support, all have a part to play. But that needs a lot of money and thought. Just abolishing juries and telling judges you want them to convict is of course free, or even a saving.

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  • #82024
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Question for the bunch: With the Delta variant taking off, has anybody gone from wait and see/catch it at the onset to prophylactic with Ivermectin?

    #82025
    Bill7
    Participant

    RE: ‘Very Real Fourth Wave’ Presses FDA to Fully Approve Covid Shots

    Interesting, those who feel the need for the “very real™” rhetoric.
    Wouldn’t the second/third/fourth waves/; strains/myootants/variants be self evident?

    And just one more thing (h/t Columbo- P. Falk was The Man): where’s the excess mortality from the “pandemic”?

    #82026
    Bill7
    Participant

    Is there a “Delta Variant”? If so, how would we know? Is testing (heh) differentiating between it and the previous, Classic™ strain?

    Maybe trusted™Johns Hopkins will tell us

    #82027
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Sen. Lindsey Graham: “I am very glad I was vaccinated because without vaccination I am certain I would not feel as well as I do now. My symptoms would be far worse.

    The data does not support Graham’s assertion.


    On any given day on social media, you can find someone who has been vaccinated saying they contracted COVID, and they just know that but for the vaccine they would have been in worse shape. These announcement get shared widely. It is wonderful that people have avoided some of the worst symptoms, but the data has not supported the observation that the vaccine offers significant downstream benefits for most people.

    Accompanying graph:

    We’re being set up for disaster
    …the data show that death rate among the vaccinated and infected is higher than that of the unvaccinated and infected. This is true for death and also true for hospitalization. There is no sleight of hand or trickery involved. These results are plain as day in the Israeli data if anyone had cared to look.

    Accompanying graphs:

    Lies, Damned Lies, and Vaccine Statistics
    Hyper-vigilant vaccination advocates are pushing dangerous misinformation about vaccine efficacy

    Dr RollerGator PhD
    Jul 29

    https://drrollergator.substack.com/p/damned-lies-and-vaccine-statistics

    #82028
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Wow, TAE is getting up to 4 pages of comments per edition! Some of it is chit-chat but a lot of it is very useful. Problem is that I could spend all day every day chasing up leads and information, but I do have other things to do with my time.

    I think most of us agree that the controlled narrative has had its effect and the general public believes it. Not surprising as most of them have daily lives to manage, and necessarily rely on the MSM for their news, ideas and opinions.

    Meanwhile the propaganda continues. My “favourite” source, The Conversation, today ran a story entitled
    If I’ve already had COVID, do I need a vaccine? And how does the immune system respond? An expert explains“, by Sunit K. Singh, Banaras Hindu University. Summary: Recovering from COVID and then getting vaccinated, known as hybrid immunity, is more potent than being infected or vaccinated alone.

    This notion has been the subject of much debate which I have been unable to keep up with. What is most telling is that this piece comes from a uni in India, several of whose states are using the medication-that-shall-not-be-named with success. As far as I can see, The Conversation never mentions you-know-what except to let it be denigrated in the comments stream.

    I have decided that if ever I am discussing with someone the merits of the jab, it would be most effective to point out the long and demonstrable censorship campaign that has been going on, and ask why? No need to go into technical details, just ask about the narrative. If the jab is so wonderful, then why censor alternative claims? The MSM riposte is simple: it is wicked to spread misinformation because that will harm people. Riposte to the riposte: India and Indonesia and other countries are using you-know-what and claiming success. If it’s effective there, why not here? But I think the Semmelweis Effect will activate and cancel thought.

    The word on the street here (Oz) is that the Feds will introduce a vaccination passport scheme in October. How burdensome they intend to make life for the unjabbed remains to be seen. It’s got to the stage with me and mine that if we have to cave in then we would ask for the Novavax jab. Thus far this one seems relatively OK, but who knows what revelations await.

    #82029
    Bill7
    Participant

    Anecdote: I’ve heard too many stories now of people who had Da Covid, then got the “vaccine”- but got much sicker from the latter than from the former.

    “If you get very sick or die, that means the vaxx is working.”

    indeed! / pass

    #82030
    russellnblbs
    Participant

    @ezlxa I’d like to see the Oz federal government try. The constitution prevents them from mandating any medical treatment under section 51 (xxiiiA) which has been backed up by case in law in Wong v Commonwealth. Justice Kirby himself said that the supply of medical treatments cannot be forced on patients without their consent. Therefore I would say that any passport system will have to be enforced voluntarily by businesses, and we have already seen in the UK how well that will go.

    Plus by October you would think the evidence would be so overwhelming that trying to pretend that the shots help in any way will look silly. In it could be argued again and again that a negative test or proof of past infection is just as good as a vaccine passport. I think that they threat of passports is just being used to try and coerce people into getting them, as we have seen in the US and UK. It’s all advertising really, and until things actually change on the ground I’m tuning out. If all else fails the Moscow option can be used anyway, as if desperate businesses will be checking any passport set up stringently.

    #82031

    Totally off-topic question. Is there an international rule that a drone must wear the decal of its operator?
    So you can say: that drone came from that antagonist, and we have a picture of the decal!

    #82032
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Anecdote: I’ve heard too many stories now of people who had Da Covid, then got the “vaccine”- but got much sicker from the latter than from the former.

    According to Karl Denninger, there are studies that very tentatively indicate that vaccination of recovered Covid patients can in fact interfere with natural immunity. That’s why I’m kind of worried about the best friend in the hometown from the good old daze. Que sera sera, I guess.

    #82033
    Bill7
    Participant

    I hope your friend does OK, Mr. R. Strange times..

    and yes, that Magritte is really nice- Jackson Browne nicked it for the cover of ‘Late For the Sky’, I think.
    A good record for these times.

    #82034
    chooch
    Participant

    ‘For the sake of freedom – yours and mine together – I will cheerfully risk catching Covid.’

    Amen, Neil Oliver. I will gladly experiment with HCQ/Ivermectin to interfere with the replication of toxic spike proteins as opposed to injecting myself with an experimental gene sequence that will create toxic spike proteins throughout my endothelium. Risk benefit ratio aside, it seems obvious to me that the later would offend my creator.

    In the moment, both the virus and the shot appear to be bioweapons…compliments of the CCP. American “Big Noses” led to slaughter.

    Local Kroger employees are masking up again.

    Jonathon Turley’s latest blog is titled “The Biden Administration Goes to War with the ‘Non-vacs’: is coercion the answer?”

    The Biden Administration Goes To War With The “Non-Vacs”: Is Coercion the Answer?

    According to WSJ yesterday, full FDA approval within a few months. Certainly lines up with Fauci’s comments a few weeks ago.

    He agrees with the White House and President Biden himself, saying vaccination mandates should be the next step. “I have been of this opinion, and I remain of that opinion, that I do believe at the local level, Jake, there should be more mandates,” Fauci told host Jake Tapper. “There really should be.”

    As a result, the NIAID director says the solution to vaccine hesitancy is official approval from the Food and Drug Administration. “One of the things that will happen, and I think the hesitancy at the local level of doing mandates is because the vaccines have not been officially fully approved,” Fauci said. “But people need to understand that the amount of data right now that shows a high degree of effectiveness and a high degree of safety is more than we’ve ever seen with the emergency use authorization, so these vaccines are as good as officially approved with all the I’s dotted and T’s crossed. It hasn’t been done yet because the FDA has to do certain things. But it’s as good as done. So people should really understand that. But they are waiting now until you get an official approval before. And I think when you do see the official approval, you’ll see a lot more mandates.”

    Won’t get tested—Won’t get the jab.

    #82035
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The way things are going, I can honestly imagine the southern states attempting to secede again before the end of this decade.

    #82036
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Some NYT Stories on the web front page:

    Americans Suffer Whiplash as Leaders Struggle With Changing Virus

    Public health reversals on the pandemic have sown confusion as the Delta variant upends what people thought they knew about how to stay safe.
    The crisis President Biden once thought was under control is changing faster than the U.S. can adapt, leaving Americans angry, exhausted and skeptical.

    and yet

    Mask Mandates Are Returning in Many Places. N.Y.C. Is Holding Back.
    Louisiana and San Francisco brought back indoor mask requirements, but Mayor Bill de Blasio said he wanted New Yorkers to focus on vaccinations.

    Live
    The U.S. finally hit President Biden’s 70 percent vaccination goal. Follow updates on Covid-19.

    Germany will begin offering vaccine booster shots in September to people considered potentially vulnerable.

    Don’t Want a Vaccine? Be Prepared to Pay More for Insurance.

    So, yeah, as I said back on page 3 earlier, I don’t think the mainstream vaxx story is disappearing any time soon, with journalists converging on TAE to ask us how we knew all along !;^)

    So don’t worry, the battle continues. Ugh. I’m tired. I think I may just take my Iv prophylactically and stop waiting for little bits of the story to change, and meanwhile going over the same old stuff day after day that we’ve known mostly for months.

    At this point it feels like some of us are, what’s that schauden word I can never remember–almost giddily waiting for bad stuff to happen to the vaxxed. Not my style. The truth such as it is is usually found hovering somewhere near the middle-ish.

    So much freakin’ energy at times. I am starting to wonder which way is up which is down which is right what is wrong.

    #82037
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Today’s basic math lesson will be on the topic of statistics :

    If 50 % of a population is “vaccinated” against a virus , and 50% the population is not vaccinated , and the two halves intermingle willy nilly for months, and the resultant infections are found to occur in approximately equal numbers of both cohorts, then the “vaccine” is , at best, 100% fucking useless . It is OPERATIONALLY ineffective. Meaning that when applied in the REAL world it does nothing to actually resolve the problem it was meant to solve. It does not matter one lone iota how good it looks!
    The dog won’t hunt. It’s as worthless as a lifeboat that doesn’t float. Little wonder that its success rate is comparable to that of deployimg Theatrical Prop body armor to both sides of a gun fight . . . and makes roughly the same amount of sense.

    #82038
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    upstatenyer: drk addressed that remark to Vietnam Vet.

    #82039
    WES
    Participant

    D Benton:

    I like your olde math, unlike the new math which isn’t math at all!

    #82041
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    @russellnbibs

    Correct: the Feds have no power to mandate medical treatment. Health schemes are a state responsibility. I suspect what the Feds could do is to set up a (presumably privatised) tracking system based on data in the Australian Immunisation Register and then let the states do the whip-cracking.

    I have already sent in the form asking for my IMR data NOT to be given out to third parties. Whether that will do any good remains to be seen. If my name does not appear in the tracking system but if my status needs to be determined when I appear at some checkpoint or other, then I guess the presumption will be that I am unjabbed.

    And remember that a state of emergency over-rides many other considerations. These are desperate times, anything goes!

    #82042
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    ‘Packed their stuff and left’ | Hurricane Harvey’s impact still evident in many areas nearly four years after flood One family is working to turn an old restaurant into a car lot and showroom, but rebuilding has been slow.

    We often say that humans dealt with weather like this before, and indeed they did: but not nearly so many of them, and not so many of them in locations and structures unable top withstand recyclic freaky weather.

    Hurricane season is around the corner:

    hurri

    #82043
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Wildfire season is already here:

    wild

    I encourage thought experiments regarding the intersection of vakzine agendas and more pressing concerns like not self-BBQing, or drowning, or getting quickie cholera from unpotable water.

    I suspect a crucial determinant in such intersections would be how well and quickly the gubmint can roll out Nat Guard/adequate supplies, etc. If they can, they might have a shot at Orwelling the situation for mandatory vakzination. If they can’t, little chance, methinks.

    #82044
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    Coronavirus cases and hospitalizations had a fourth bump last spring. Coronavirus deaths had three peaks. The third peak from last February steadily declined until July 8th and is starting to rise again.

    https://tinyurl.com/2w4dmv2v

    The current rise in the number of coronavirus deaths may or may not go exponential. If it does, this would be the fourth spike. The question is if the vaccines are lowering the death rate with over half of Americans vaccinated or is the delta variant less lethal. The fog of disinformation hides the truth for now. The USA is being run based on beliefs not science.

    #82045
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    NYTimes 3 weeks ago:

    “ILLINOIS CORN A FAILURE.; FROM HALF TO THREE-QUARTERS OF A CROP ONLY EXPECTED.”

    NYTimes 18 days ago:

    “The Maryland Fruit Crop Almost a Failure”

    Sask. farmers stressed about poor crop yields, loss of income after weeks of dry conditions Social Sharing July 27

    “Industry members say stigma still exists around discussing mental health

    Farmers across Saskatchewan say they are feeling the overwhelming mental and financial stress of crop contracts and poor harvests as dry conditions bake their fields.

    Only about half of the crops across the province are at their normal stages of development for this time of year, according to the latest provincial crop report.

    The report attributes the problems to lack of moisture, noting about eight per cent of cropland topsoil in the province has what it needs. And farmers can see the effects.”

    Lack of rain forcing farmers to turn small crop yields into feed, some will see complete crop failure July 20

    #82046
    Archie
    Participant

    Those last few links you posted bosco are really worthy of significant thought. It truly does appear apocalyptic just around the corner.

    #82047
    Archie
    Participant
    #82048
    Bill7
    Participant

    fearporn can be so much fun

    #82049
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Coronavirus: how T cells are involved and what it might mean for vaccine development june 11 2020

    “We are still learning about COVID-19 and questions remain as to whether complete protection against it is even possible.

    Issues still to be tackled
    Another area of debate is whether some protection can arise from being infected with another coronavirus. There is some similarity between the version of coronavirus causing the current pandemic and others that cause a mild cold.

    Some studies show a cross-reactivity, but others show none. Differences in these results may be down to how immune responses were analysed, or variations between people who could have had different prior exposures. Either way, such conflicting observations highlight the complexities involved.

    Concerns have also been raised about the possibility of vaccines eliciting a response that could, at least in principle, produce antibodies that help the virus get into cells – a phenomenon known as antibody dependent enhancement.

    The pressure to develop a vaccine is huge. The rush must not override the need for safety. There are other issues we must also tackle – not least, the manufacturing and fair distribution of anything that works. But right now, understanding the human immune response to this virus is our best hope and our greatest challenge.The Conversation”

    ^&*

    “Further research will need to address the durability of protective immunity and the optimal platforms for a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine for humans (26). Although our data are restricted to DNA vaccines, our findings may be generalizable to other gene-based vaccines as well, including RNA vaccines and recombinant vector-based vaccines. Additional research should also evaluate vaccine immunogenicity and protective efficacy in older animals. Future studies should also address the question of enhanced respiratory disease, which may result from antibody-dependent enhancement (27–29). Although our study was not designed to examine safety issues, it is worth noting that the DNA vaccines induced TH1 rather than TH2 responses, and we did not observe enhanced clinical disease even with the suboptimal vaccine constructs that failed to protect against infection.”

    DNA vaccine protection against SARS-CoV-2 in rhesus macaques August 14 2020

    Many mainstream academic voices raised the question of ADE along with many other issues before Bossche. His concerns are not revolutionary or specious.

    #82051
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Whose Rule of Law?

    “Illinois Attorney General Kwame Raoul said he has spent more than $2.5 million in crisis management after a massive ransomware hack crippled the agency in April and potentially exposed gigabytes of personal and confidential records on the dark web.

    The taxpayer money is being used to rebuild computer systems, notify individuals their personal information may be at risk and get the office fully back online following the April 10 attack, carried out under a name linked to a notorious gang of cybercriminals based in Russia.

    The breach came just eight weeks after state auditors met with officials at the attorney general’s office to warn of deficiencies in the agency’s cybersecurity programs.”

    #82053
    Bill7
    Participant

    From ‘Looking beyond COVID-19 vaccine phase 3 trials’:

    “..For these reasons, even when COVID-19 vaccines have achieved licensure via current phase 3 trials, there will be substantial uncertainties about >>how useful the vaccines will be in practice, and studies done after licensure, addressing vaccine effectiveness, including the level of protection of both vaccinated and non-vaccinated individuals in entire targeted populations, will be needed<< . Several designs can be considered. A common post-licensure approach is simply to monitor the secular trend of cases against the concomitant secular trend of vaccine coverage. This approach suffers from several potential, not easily correctible, biases, not least that it assumes that the underlying trend of cases, independent of vaccination, can be predicted, which will be difficult for COVID-19..”

    Lots of obscuratory gobbledygook; but if someone is willing to plow through it, here’s the link:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01230-y?error=cookies_not_supported&code=9a61452f-e3ee-4411-b3cc-5c3fa45e2d42

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