Dec 052021
 


Rembrandt van Rijn Study of the Head and Clasped Hands of a Young Man as Christ in Prayer 1655

 

1 In 2680 Young Men In Hong Kong Get Acute Myocarditis From Comirnaty (Malone)
120 Children Hospitalized In Vietnam Pfizer Vaccine Batch Suspended (Vne)
Twitter: Research On Potential Heart Risks Of Covid Vaccine ‘Unsafe’ (JTN)
WHO: Omicron in 38 Countries, No Deaths Reported (ET)
Do You Know Why There Isn’t An EUA For Fluvoxamine? (Kirsch)
‘Wall Of Secrecy’ In Pfizer Contracts As Company Accused Of Profiteering (G.)
Australian Children Aged 5 To 11 Set To Receive Pfizer Covid Vaccine
Molnupiravir Set For UK At-Home Trials (G.)
EU Chief Calls For Throwing Out Nuremberg Code (PM)
Hundreds Of NY Corrections Officers Put On Leave For Refusing Covid Jab (NYP)
Joe Biden Warns Vladimir Putin Not to Invade Ukraine (GR)
Obituary for Russiagate (Patrick Lawrence)

 

 

So we don’t blame them

 

 

Below is an article by Robert Malone about myocarditis in Hong Kong, which says 37.32 per 100,000 = 1 in 2680 young men are afflicted.

But Eric Topol says there are no cases among 5 million kids in the US. At the same ratio (and why shouldn’t there be), there should be 1,850. Irresponsible nonsense, Topol. 2nd hand car salesman.

Topol

 

 

“..Under conditions of terror most people will comply but some people will not, just as the lesson of the countries to which the Final Solution was proposed is that “it could happen” in most places but it did not happen everywhere.” – Hannah Arendt

 

 

They never found a cure for the “common” cold because the cold IS the cure.

 

 

“37.32 per 100,000 = 1 in 2680 young men who develop myocarditis/pericarditis within two weeks of their second vaccination..”

1 In 2680 Young Men In Hong Kong Get Acute Myocarditis From Comirnaty (Malone)

Strong data from a peer reviewed article in the journal of Clinical Infectious Disease shows that there is a significant increase in the risk of myocarditis/pericarditis following Comirnaty vaccination among Chinese male adolescents, especially after the second dose. Onset of myocarditis was a median of 2 days after vaccination. The clinically significant (acute and/or “mild”) myocarditis/pericarditis incidence rate came in at one out of every 2680 young males. The results conclude with : “Among male adolescents, the incidence after the first and second doses were 5.57 (95% CI 2.38-12.53) and 37.32 (95% CI 26.98-51.25) per 100,000 persons vaccinated.”

Analysis: 37.32 per 100,000 = 1 in 2680 young men who develop myocarditis/pericarditis within two weeks of their second vaccination (median time to disease: 2 days). This study was an analysis of hospital records of myocarditis/pericarditis, so did not include adolescents who may have developed the disease but did not seek medical attention. Many pediatric cardiologists including my colleague and friend Dr. Kirk Milhoan, MD, PhD (MD board certified in pediatric cardiology, PhD. in vascular inflammation) assert that there is no such thing as “mild” myocarditis in children. Myocarditis causes heart damage. Heart damage is for life – the heart does not heal by replacing damaged cells. It scars. Scars in the heart can lead to changes in electrical conduction in heart muscle, which in turn can result in “sudden death” due to changes in heart beat regularity and muscular contraction of the heart. These events may happen at any time, particularly when the heart is stressed in some way.

Results (from the abstract) Between 14 June 2021 and 4 September 2021, 33 Chinese adolescents who developed acute myocarditis/pericarditis following Comirnaty vaccination were identified. 29 (87.88%) were males and 4 (12.12%) were females, with a median age of 15.25 years. 27 (81.82%) and 6 (18.18%) cases developed acute myocarditis/pericarditis after receiving the second and first dose, respectively. All cases are mild and required only conservative management. The overall incidence of acute myocarditis/pericarditis was 18.52 (95% Confidence Interval [CI], 11.67-29.01) per 100,000 persons vaccinated. The incidence after the first and second doses were 3.37 (95%CI 1.12-9.51) and 21.22 (95%CI 13.78-32.28 per 100,000 persons vaccinated, respectively. Among male adolescents, the incidence after the first and second doses were 5.57 (95% CI 2.38-12.53) and 37.32 (95% CI 26.98-51.25) per 100,000 persons vaccinated.

Conclusion from the Abstract “There is a significant increase in the risk of acute myocarditis/pericarditis following Comirnaty vaccination among Chinese male adolescents, especially after the second dose.”

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Just a batch? Let’s see the follow-up.

120 Children Hospitalized In Vietnam Pfizer Vaccine Batch Suspended (Vne)

Thanh Hoa has suspended the use of a Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine batch after over 120 students were hospitalized following their inoculation. Since November 30, the central province has been vaccinating children aged 15-17 with the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine. However, over 120 of the children were admitted to hospitals after exhibiting symptoms like nausea, high fever or breathing difficulties, the provincial Center for Disease Control (CDC) said Thursday. Of these, 17 had severe reactions, but their health has stabilized and they continue to be monitored at the hospital, the center said. The cause of their symptoms has yet to be confirmed by Thanh Hoa authorities.

Thanh Hoa CDC director Luong Ngoc Truong said the province has stopped using the current vaccine batch. “We still have other batches, also Pfizer vaccines, so we will continue vaccinating the children,” he said. The suspended batch would be put into storage and could be used later for other groups like adults, Truong added. Vu Van Chinh, director of the Ha Trung District General Hospital, said side-effects following vaccination was normal, but are more likely to happen in children than adults. “Those who have reactions or faint need to be separated so no chain reaction occurs,” said Chinh.

The Thanh Hoa CDC has distributed around 117,000 Covid-19 vaccine doses to 27 districts and towns. Over 56,700 doses have been administered. Over the past week, three children have died following their vaccination with the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in Bac Giang, Hanoi and Binh Phuoc. The cause of death has been determined as “overreaction to the vaccine.” Last week, four workers in Thanh Hoa’s Kim Viet Shoe factory died following their Vero Cell Covid-19 vaccination, also due to “overreaction.”

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It’s not the vaccine that’s unsafe, it’s the research.

Twitter: Research On Potential Heart Risks Of Covid Vaccine ‘Unsafe’ (JTN)

Twitter this week ignited controversy when it slapped an “unsafe” label on a research abstract regarding potential heart effects arising from the use of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. The abstract in question, “Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning,” claims that research suggests those vaccines “dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle” and that the purported side effects “may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination.” The abstract, published in the American Heart Association-affiliated journal Circulation, drew an “expression of concern” from the AHA’s Committee on Scientific Sessions Program.


That statement claimed that, within the article, “there are several typographical errors, there is no data in the abstract regarding myocardial T-cell infiltration, there are no statistical analyses for significance provided, and the author is not clear that only anecdotal data was used.” Twitter subsequently applied the “unsafe” warning to the original article, with users who click through to the abstract being told that the research “could” constitute, among other potential categories, “violent or misleading content that could lead to real-world harm.” The original abstract was published by controversial American cardiac surgeon Steven Gundry, who has been criticized for his theories on the link between heart inflammation and lectins.

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Some people must be disappointed. They’ll find a way.

WHO: Omicron in 38 Countries, No Deaths Reported (ET)

The World Health Organization (WHO) on Friday said the COVID-19 omicron variant is now in 38 countries, up from 23 two days ago, suggesting that the variant may be more contagious than Delta. During a news conference, WHO official Maria Van Kerkhove said the U.N. health body has seen “an increasing growth rate,” and “we see increasing numbers of Omicron being detected.” No deaths have been reported so far in connection to the COVID-19 strain, another WHO spokesperson told reporters Friday. “There is a suggestion that there is increased transmissibility, what we need to understand is if it’s more or less transmissible compared to Delta,” Van Kerkhove said. The Delta variant is the dominant strain throughout the world, she said.

In the United States, at least six U.S. states have confirmed Omicron cases so far, including a fully vaccinated male who traveled from an anime convention in New York City to Minnesota this week, according to health officials, who said the individual had mild symptoms and recovered. The first American case was detected in California’s San Francisco Bay Area. A previous update from WHO said Omicron has numerous mutations to its spike protein, which is what it uses to bind to human cells, which may lead to higher transmission rates. It’s not yet clear, however, officials have cautioned. But whether the new strain causes more severe disease or not is unclear, Van Kerkhove said. Early reports from South Africa and Israel suggest many patients experience mild symptoms.

Van Kerkhove said that the first Omicron cases were based on a cluster of college students, noting that younger people tend to experience milder symptoms than older people. A top South African doctor this week told news outlets that the symptoms were unusual but “extremely mild.” “There was initial reports that it tended to be more mild, but it’s really too soon,” Van Kerkhove said. “Everybody who is infected with SARS-CoV-2 regardless of what variant will always start out with a mild disease. And so maybe it will stop there with mild, some people are asymptomatic of course, but it may stop with mild disease or it may take some time.”

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“Basically, the system is set up so that only proprietary drugs that can kill you are approved.”

Do You Know Why There Isn’t An EUA For Fluvoxamine? (Kirsch)

The reason is simple. We tried. And after 6 weeks of waiting, we were told that to get an EUA for a repurposed drug, you have to partner with a drug company in the EUA application. Because no drug company will partner with us, even if we pay all the filing costs, there won’t be an EUA. Ever. So most doctors will never prescribe it for COVID, even thought it works better than anything else. And the NIH won’t do anything with fluvoxamine either like add it to their guidelines. It will never be upgraded on the NIH COVID treatment guidelines. It is currently sitting at “NEUTRAL” after two trials where it had a 100% risk reduction in both trials without any downside risk. In short, if deployed it would likely save a lot of lives and there is no risk of deployment since the risks of the drug are well known.

It’s a very safe drug when properly prescribed. I took it myself and I couldn’t tell I was on it the side-effects were so negligible. When the fluvoxamine Phase 3 study published in Lancet showed the drug worked better than any other drug (including the new antiviral pills from Merck and Pfizer), the NIH simply ignored the study. They didn’t even mention it. Even 60 Minutes which did a story on fluvoxamine didn’t mention the Phase 3 study proved it worked when the study came out (normally, they’d do this at the end of a show to let their audience know they got it right). Fluvoxamine provides a 12-fold reduction in death if you started the drug early, but the NIH basically said “Ho hum. Only 12X reduction in death? That’s better than anything including the vaccines (which according to the Pfizer 6 month Phase 3 study was only a 2X reduction in mortality).

So not even worth mentioning in the guidelines. It would save too many lives. Best to ignore it. And if we ignore it, no doctor in America will dare to prescribe it. So the vaccine will be the only option just like we planned.” Cliff Lane, who heads the guidelines committee, reports to Fauci. Cliff simply isn’t going to allow the NIH recommendation to be modified no matter what the science says. This is not about saving lives. It never was. When the key opinion leader (KOL) panel of NIH, CDC, FDA and academia experts recommended fluvoxamine be used back in January 2021, the NIH ignored that too. Jeffrey Klausner, who convened the panel, wrote a great op-ed about it in the Washington Post right after the meeting so everyone would know. Doctors ignored it.

Klausner shopped the KOL meeting notes to 10 journals, all of whom refused to publish it. Truly stunning! Life saving drug and nobody would publish the recommendation of an expert panel to use it. Wow. When the KOL meeting notes were finally published in the peer-reviewed medical literature on December 1, 2021, only 12 months after the meeting, the NIH again did absolutely nothing, ignoring the advice of these key experts, even though now they have more data from the Together trial showing it works. Basically, the system is set up so that only proprietary drugs that can kill you are approved.

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The Guardian turns on Pfizer?

‘Wall Of Secrecy’ In Pfizer Contracts As Company Accused Of Profiteering (G.)

Ministers have agreed a secrecy clause in any dispute with the drugs manufacturer Pfizer over Britain’s Covid vaccine supply. Large portions of the government’s contracts with the company over the supply of 189m vaccine doses have been redacted and any arbitration proceedings will be kept secret. The revelation comes as Pfizer is accused by a former senior US health official of “war profiteering’’ during the pandemic. In a Channel 4 Dispatches investigation to be broadcast this week, Tom Frieden, who was director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention under Barack Obama, said: “If you’re just focusing on maximising your profits and you’re a vaccine manufacturer … you are war profiteering.”

Zain Rizvi, research director at Public Citizen, a US consumer advocacy organisation which has examined Pfizer’s global vaccine contracts, said: “There is a wall of secrecy surrounding these contracts and it’s unacceptable, particularly in a public health crisis.” Rizvi said the UK needed to explain why it had agreed to secret arbitration proceedings. He said: “It’s the only high-income country we have seen that has agreed to this provision. It allows pharmaceutical companies to bypass domestic legal processes. “The UK government has allowed the drug firms to call the shots. How did we end up in a situation where a handful of drug firms were able to exert so much control over the most powerful governments in the world? It points to a broken system.”

Pfizer has won plaudits for its vaccine delivery programme, but the US multinational faces growing scrutiny over the scale of its profits and the proportion of doses it has delivered to low-income countries. While AstraZeneca agreed to sell its vaccine at cost during the pandemic, Pfizer wanted to secure its profits. The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, which now has the brand name Comirnaty, will be one of the most lucrative drugs in pharmaceutical history. The Channel 4 investigation reveals analysis by one biological engineering expert claiming the Pfizer vaccine costs just 76p to manufacture for each shot. It is reportedly being sold for £22 a dose to the UK government.

The estimated manufacturing costs do not include research, distribution and other costs, but Pfizer says its profit margin as a percentage before tax are in the “high-20s”. Pfizer expects to deliver 2.3bn vaccines this year with predicted revenues of $36bn (£26.3bn).

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Big trial. Population wide.

Australian Children Aged 5 To 11 Set To Receive Pfizer Covid Vaccine

Australian children aged five to 11 could receive the Pfizer vaccine against Covid as soon as 10 January, following provisional approval by the country’s drugs regulator. The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) green light, announced by the federal health minister, Greg Hunt, on Sunday will likely be followed by an independent recommendation from the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (Atagi) to use the vaccine in that age group. Hunt told reporters the provisional approval was “about keeping our kids safe, keeping our families safe, keeping all Australians safe”. “From 10 January, Australian children will have access to Pfizer vaccines, and it is recommended for children right across Australia,” he said in Melbourne.

Hunt said the TGA was also considering children’s doses of Moderna, the other mRNA vaccine, and will form a view on that “in the coming weeks”. The head of the TGA, Prof John Skerritt, said the Pfizer vaccine had been “extensively clinically tested” including a trial of 2,500 children aged five to 11. “The response of the body, the immune response, was identical to that in young adults,” he said. “There were … no safety problems identified in those trials. The children had some of the same things that adults get – tiredness, sore arms, headache and so forth – but these tended to be brief and fairly short-lived.” Skerritt said the children’s Pfizer was the “same vaccine” but “formulated differently for children” – using one-third of an adult dose.

[..] Hunt said 92.8% of Australians aged 16 and over have now had a first dose of a Covid-19 vaccine and 88% were double-dosed. Since vaccinations were opened to the 12 to 15 age group in September, more than three quarters (76.7%) in that cohort have received a first dose while two-thirds (67.8%) have had two doses.

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We know Molnupiravir doesn’t work. But:

“The UK has proven itself to be a world leader in identifying and rolling out effective treatments for Covid-19..”

Yeah, they have humor..

Molnupiravir Set For UK At-Home Trials (G.)

The first at-home treatment for Covid-19 could reportedly be offered to UK patients before Christmas as an attempt to protect the most vulnerable from the Omicron variant. The Sunday Telegraph reported that Sajid Javid is set to launch a national pilot of the Molnupiravir antiviral pill, marketed as Lagevrio. The newspaper said that under the plans, the NHS was expected to deliver courses of the tablet to clinically vulnerable and immunosuppressed patients within as little as 48 hours of them testing positive for Covid. It said hospitals and GPs had been told a series of Covid medicines delivery units were being established to ensure the treatment gets to patients as quickly as possible once it is confirmed they have the virus. Last month, the UK became the first country in the world to license its use – a move described as a “gamechanger” by Javid, the health secretary.


But just over a week ago, England’s chief medical officer, Prof Chris Whitty, warned its use may have to be reconsidered in the light of the emergence of Omicron. “I think we probably need to do a rethink of it just to make sure with the new variant, we’re targeting in the right direction.” A Department of Health and Social Care spokesman said: “The UK has proven itself to be a world leader in identifying and rolling out effective treatments for Covid-19, including through government-backed national trials. “The government’s antivirals taskforce was launched to identify treatments for UK patients who have been exposed to Covid-19 to take at home, stopping the infection spreading and speeding up recovery time. “There are a number of exciting opportunities in the pipeline and we will provide further details in due course.”

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This warrants a lot more scrutiny.

EU Chief Calls For Throwing Out Nuremberg Code (PM)

Ursula Van Der Leyen, the head of the EU commission, told the press on Wednesday that she is in favour of scrapping the long-standing Nuremburg Code and forcing people to get vaccinated against COVID. In an interview she gave to the BBC, the EU chief said that it was “understandable and appropriate” to consider vaccine mandates, especially due to the new Omicron variant of COVID 19, which has been now detected in 12 different member nations of the EU. “How we can encourage and potentially think about mandatory vaccination within the European Union? This needs discussion. This needs a common approach, but it is a discussion that I think has to be led,” commented Van Der Leyen to the BBC.


The WHO, however, has strongly encouraged countries not to enact travel bans because of Omicron, and further iterated that early data points to the fact that most Omicron cases are not severe. Most of the world’s governments are not paying attention to the WHO’s guidelines on this occasion, however. The Nuremberg Code was enacted in 1947, immediately after the Second World War to prevent many of the egregious human rights abuses enacted by the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese during the war. Especially were at issue the performance of medical procedures on subjects without their consent. These procedures, often performed under the command of people such as Dr. Josef Mengele or Hideki Tojo, often were akin to the worst kinds of torture. Since then, full and proactive ongoing consent has been required.

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It’s all about safety.

Hundreds Of NY Corrections Officers Put On Leave For Refusing Covid Jab (NYP)

More than 500 officers with the already depleted city Department of Corrections are still refusing to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and remain on unpaid leave. New data released by the city shows 17% of DOC uniform officers had yet to receive at least one jab as of Thursday night – two days after a deadline imposed by Mayor Bill de Blasio kicked in requiring proof of inoculation for them to continue working. Most city workers had until Oct. 29 to get vaccinated or be placed on unpaid leave until they provide proof of vaccination. However, de Blasio gave uniformed correction officers extra time — until Dec. 1 — to receive their first jab, because of the ongoing staffing shortage at the troubled Rikers Island jail complex.


Although the DOC’s 83% vaccination rate is the lowest of any city agency, the DOC has seen its rate rise significantly from 46% when de Blasio’s October mandate went into effect, and 77% when the correction officer deadline recently kicked in. Another 9% of DOC uniformed staff who have applied for medical or religious exemptions are continuing to report to work as the city reviews their cases, meaning 92% of the uniformed workforce is active. Councilman Keith Powers (D-Manhattan), who chairs the criminal justice committee that oversees city jails, said the mandates are working, adding “we still have work to do, but the current numbers present progress.” The mayor gave the DOC permission to assign 12-hour shifts and “any other measures necessary to address the current staffing shortage” earlier this week as the agency prepared for an employee shortage.

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Russia invading Ukraine is a story the US made up. So it can warn against it.

Joe Biden Warns Vladimir Putin Not to Invade Ukraine (GR)

President Joe Biden said on Friday that he and his administration have plans to make it “very, very difficult” for Russian President Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine. Biden and his team are creating a new set of initiatives to check Russia and make sure Ukraine is protected. But Biden made sure to calmly issue a warning to Putin before any of said initiatives become necessary. The U.S. President is primarily concerned with an increased presence of Russian troops at the Ukrainian border. The Kremlin has also boasted war-ready rhetoric in its recent language. “What I am doing is putting together what I believe will be the most comprehensive and meaningful set of initiatives to make it very, very difficult for Mr. Putin to go ahead and do what people are worried he may do,” Biden told the press.

There are indications that the tensions are high enough that a meeting between the White House and the Kremlin may be held as soon as next week. Putin’s foreign affairs adviser Yuri Ushakov told the press that the Kremlin had been organizing a call between the two leaders in the next coming days. Will Biden has made sure not to name any specific consequences he is considering, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that he believes that Biden will put pressure on Russia with new sanctions. Lavrov spoke with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken in Stockholm, Sweden on Thursday, where Blinken said that the U.S. would “have to respond” if Russia acted on Ukraine:

“We don’t know President Putin’s intent. We don’t know if he’s made a decision to take renewed, aggressive action against Ukraine, but what we do know is that he’s putting in place the capacity to do so and to do so on short, on short notice,” Blinken said in a statement to Euronews following the meeting. But Lavrov seemed unshaken by Blinken’s remark and Biden’s warning, saying that “If the new ‘sanctions from hell’ come, we will respond. We can’t fail to respond.”

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Anybody can write one of these now. But how, looking at the fall-out, can you leave out the Covid hysteria? It’s lessons learned from Russiagate, on steroids.

Obituary for Russiagate (Patrick Lawrence)

There is, of course, the more dangerous world Russiagate has done so much to create. In the culture of unreason, the Deep State has a discouraging record of success in gaining wide public support for any aggressive campaign against any nation or people it wishes to act against. In this dimension, Russiagate has destroyed the Democrats as a party willing to stand against the imperial project in its late phase. A war with China over the Taiwan question is now spoken of as a logical possibility. Washington is now raising the temperature on the Ukraine–Russia border, just as it did when it cultivated the 2014 coup in Kiev, and this is put across as a Democratic administration’s sound policy. Rampant Russophobia is a direct consequence of the Russiagate ruse, Sinophobia its uglier sibling — uglier for its racist subtext.

We have active subversion operations in Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba and Peru, all progressive states in the true meaning of this term, and Democrats of all stripes — including “progressives” with the necessary quotation marks — cheer on every one of them. We cannot view this as distinct from the elevation of institutions dedicated to campaigns of covert subterfuge — chiefly but not only the C.I.A. — to wholly inappropriate positions of respect. The damage Russiagate has done to the press … let me rephrase this. The damage the press has inflicted upon itself in the cause of Russiagate is so extensive it is hard to calculate with any precision. We watch now as their credibility collapses in real time. Those running the mainstream newspapers and networks seem to understand this, as they rush to protect what remains of their reputations with rearguard actions to obscure their grossly irresponsible conduct.

The long list of those who caved to the Russiagate orthodoxy includes some stunning names. Among publications that should have known better we find Mother Jones, The Nation, The Intercept, and Democracy Now! Was it conformity, pressure from donors or Democratic Party ventriloquists, or some combination of ideology, ignorance and inexperience that caused them to flip? The Atlantic, The New Yorker, the major dailies, the networks — they have all sustained one or another degree of discredit, left either to craven rewrites in their archives, denial in the Corn–Frum mode, or silence. None will do: They will never regain lost ground without first acknowledging what they have done, and this appears out of the question.

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    Rembrandt van Rijn Study of the Head and Clasped Hands of a Young Man as Christ in Prayer 1655   • 1 In 2680 Young Men In Hong Kong Get Acute Myo
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 5 2021]

    #94406
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    This photo is the most detailed model of a human cell to date, obtained using X-ray, NMR, and cryo-electron microscopy data sets

    That is incredible; an artist could only aspire to appreciate the sheer beauty/elegance of this…

    #94407
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ Dr. D
    Regarding your comment yesterday “I often wonder why they must, must, must kill all native peoples worldwide.”

    I think the reason is
    land

    allodial. / (əˈləʊdɪəl) / adjective. (of land) held as an allodium. (of tenure) characterized by or relating to the system of holding land in absolute ownership, the allodial system.

    #94417
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Michael Reid

    allodial. / (əˈləʊdɪəl) / adjective. (of land) held as an allodium. (of tenure) characterized by or relating to the system of holding land in absolute ownership, the allodial system.

    Thanks so much for that wonderful new word…

    #94418
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Eric Topol: “About 5 million children age 5-11 now vaccinated with their first dose (nearly ~1 million with 2nd dose) and I’ve yet to see a case of myocarditis reported”

    What has been reported to VAERS, for ages 5-11, are 2,586 adverse events (so far), including 34 rated as serious and 2 reported deaths.

    U.S. VAERS data from Dec. 14, 2020, to Nov. 26, 2021 for 5- to 11-year-olds show:

    2,586 adverse events, including 34 rated as serious and 2 reported deaths. One death occurred in an 11-year-old girl from Georgia vaccinated Sept. 14, prior to the authorization of Pfizer’s COVID vaccine in the 5 to 11 age group.

    The second death (VAERS I.D. 1890705) occurred in a 5-year-old girl who died four days after receiving her first dose of Pfizer.

    1,581 adverse events have been reported in the 5 to 11 age group since Nov. 1.

    https://siliconforest.ca/from-the-latest-vaers-report/

    #94419
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    I don’t know, Michael. Is land the answer? They arbitrarily make up new rules and “take” land, if they want, or even “buy” land with money they siphoned off poor people. I don’t think it’s about land. I think it’s a complete disregard for poor people, no matter the race. It’s about class – easier to get away with killing the powerless.

    #94420
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    “The UK government has allowed the drug firms to call the shots”

    Huh. Only the UK has allowed that? My misunderstanding. Thought it was pretty much the norm in every country.

    #94421
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Making fun of this stuff is like shooting fish in a barrel:

    “A Department of Health and Social Care spokesman said: “The UK has proven itself to be a world leader in identifying and rolling out effective treatments for Covid-19 …”

    And yet, check Worldometers and the UK is 7th on the list for number of covid deaths with a population of only 68 million. World leader indeed!

    #94422
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    I always read Doc Robinson’s posts because they’re brilliant analyses of published studies and data. Today’s post makes me sad. This vaxx mess has become a test of intelligence and some (many? millions of?) children are going to lose because their parents lack it. Tragic.

    #94423
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Michael Reid is right on one level. Land appreciates and is tied to this worlds seeming reality and thus coveted. Like another man’s wife or other idols. We must do our best thinking in an attitude of Charity. A state of mind one up from the throng and vicious teeth of ego dreams of hate, separation and seperate states defined by flesh and eyes and ears. Fear is the mind killer.
    Let them come and come they will and let ourselves not judge ourselves for our own reactions and attacks but let us at least know deep in the heart of our being that though this body and life is like one season for just one leaf on an old oak tree that one day falls as finished to the dirt, that we are not who we think we are but The Son of God and a Great Reset is just a silly dream held by frightened egos

    #94424
    chooch
    Participant

    Amen oxy.

    #94425
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Regarding the native peoples worldwide I don’t know the rules and situations but my general understanding is the native peoples do not pay taxes on their land and often governments who have made agreements with the native peoples also have continuing obligations towards them which would expire if these people were to no longer exist.

    #94428
    John Day
    Participant

    @VP Gary, from 2 days ago. I voted for Ross Perot. I have not picked a winner yet. His company, Electronic Data Systems did good, efficient work with Texas Medicaid. Governor Bush reassigned that contract. Ross made Clinton win. Ross saw things not making sense in stocks in March 1987 and got out of the markets months before the fall crash. I remember an interview with him that day. When “things did not make sense” he just got out.
    There are a lot of other reports about Perot, including some beneficial role in “the hostage crisis”, which Bush Sr. made sure to prolong by illegal negotiations with Iran, sinking Carter, who was also secretly (legally) negotiating with Iran.
    That led to guns, for drugs for hostages Iran-Contra. Ollie North took one for the team, but Bush/Reagan were “Teflon”.

    #94429
    John Day
    Participant

    I’m still catching up. I’m starting in on yesterday, now…

    #94430
    boilingfrog
    Participant

    Just finishing Robin Wall Kimmerer’s book “Braiding Sweetgrass” and she expounds greatly on the different views the indigenous have of “land”, compared to “westerners”. Night and day. Our societies treat it as a “thing” to own, trade, dominate and use (up).

    Lately been struggling with family on the whole vax issue, and they think I’ve fallen into a cult of sorts, an illogical, selfish cult that is agains the vaccine. I’m sure many others experience this, too, and to much greater extents.

    Yesterday it occurred to me that the old adage about not talking about “politics or religion” has now extended to “healthcare”. The common thread (at least from what I see) is they have all become “faith-based”, and faith-based issues do not dwell in the land of logic and rational thinking.

    #94431
    boilingfrog
    Participant

    To my way of thinking it’s important to dig up and examine, on occasion, the “turtles” your world stands upon. These presuppositions and “accepted facts” are strong anchors below the surface.

    At a slightly shallower level we might “anchor” ourselves to faith in a particular political party, come hell or high water, or a particular “news/entertainment” personality and their take on the world.

    We’d become paralyzed and exhausted if we had to examine and re-examine each and every decision anew, so compromise and faith it is… This site and its commenters can be challenging, and I thank you all for that, especially when it’s data driven, not name calling (even Deflationista is appreciated).

    Now, time to tend my garden…

    #94432
    chooch
    Participant

    boilingfrog,

    Fear and relentless conditioning have created a very compliant culture that is hesitant to speak out for fear of being alienated. Faith based individuals are not void of logic and rational thought. We seek to remove the division within and in the process we will lose family and friends. Given that earth is associated with this kind of faith, much digging is required. Happy gardening.

    So, if you are paying attention, you can see how the messaging is moving away from reducing transmission (injections are incapable) to protection from severe disease (which is dubious also). These are comments Dr. Fauci made over the weekend.

    “When you add the third dose you increase the levels of neutralizing antibodies against all the variants. And this also has an increase in levels of memory B cells and T cells which strongly suggest that boosters will give you cross protection against a number of variants, although we haven’t proven it yet there is every reason to believe that if you get vaccinated and boosted, that you would have at least some degree of cross protection, very likely against severe disease even against the Omicron variant.”

    There was a pre-print study that was also getting some attention this weekend. It had to do with reinfection risk. It was citing a 2 to 3 times increased risk of reinfection. They defined reinfection is two tests at least 90 days apart.

    Think about that for a minute. We literally swim in a sea of microbes. The fact that our immune system prevents these microbes from gaining a foothold and developing into an illness has nothing to with testing positive for a particular microbe 90 days apart. Remember, we are all potential asymptomatic reservoirs for coronaviruses whether or not we are vaccinated or unvaccinated or even if we previous had the disease.

    Dr. Mike Ryan (Head of the WHO’s emergencies program) commented on this study this past weekend.

    “Remember, infection is diagnosed in your nose. So basically its an infection in the mucosa of your nose, the lining of your nose. So you can be infected, and you can have a reinfection an you can probably find the virus in the nose but your not sick because your immune system inside your body, in effect, is mounting an immune response and able to cope with that infection. So reinfection does not automatically mean severe disease.

    [..] Reinfection rates may be higher but when the data comes through on vaccine protection what the data we’re really looking to see is going to be around severity of infection and whether or not the vaccines continue to protect against severe disease, hospitalization and death. Right now there’s no reason to suppose that they won’t. We just haven’t got the data yet.”

    So, it now looks like they are trying to condition us for the need to be tested often to participate in society on top of submitting to the jabs to prevent the healthcare system from being overwhelmed.

    #94433
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    I’m seeing more and more of these posts on social media saying that people are getting a mild case of the sniffles and then suddenly dying. Could that be ADE?

    Then there’s even these crazy newspaper articles saying that someone died but that it wasn’t serious or some such like. Even yesterday there was one saying that 28 people had died in care homes, three of them seriously. That seems to be some kind of weird code for unjabbed. “Hey, yeah, he died but at least it wasn’t serious thanks to him having been vaccinated.”

    #94434
    zerosum
    Participant

    Brainwashed

    Enablers/enforcers/bosses/influencers want the majority to blame the minority for one reason and one reason only: so we don’t blame them.
    1. Don’t blame me.
    2. Its not my fault.
    3. Its not my responsibility
    4. I didn’t know
    Examples
    1. Pandemic
    2. Obituary for Russiagate (Patrick Lawrence)
    ———-

    They never found a cure for the “common” cold because the cold IS the cure.
    Maybe ….. Omicron will be the cure for covid?
    Maybe that is why we have a immunity system.

    • WHO: Omicron in 38 Countries, No Deaths Reported (ET)
    ——
    Quality control
    The furnace of the Big Bang made 10^80 similar particles
    Humans/Pfizer are not going to achieve that kind of quality control. That is why testing is needed.
    ——–

    #94435
    John Day
    Participant

    Finished yesterday. Meditation-group time, now.
    I promise photos of the house-project progressing.
    Carefully planted 450 onion starts yesterday, and worked out some details of load bearing wall pillar placement, marking “X”s on the plywood floor.

    The Seneca Effect, Ugo Bardi’s blog (“Cassandra’s Legacy was his prior blog) is very good. Read closer, Dr. D. He’s on the same team. He did that series of articles on how to reduce population groups.
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/10/targeted-exterminations.html
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/10/the-age-of-extermination.html

    #94436
    Rover
    Participant

    2022 already?!…I missed the Winter Solstice 😯🥶🌞

    #94437
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    #94438
    Noirette
    Participant

    From top post, re.

    “Ursula Van Der Leyen, the head of the EU commission, told the press on Wednesday that she is in favour of scrapping the long-standing Nuremburg Code and forcing people to get vaccinated against COVID.”

    https://thepostmillennial.com/eu-chief-nuremberg-code

    Some ppl are suggesting that COV19 will contribute to, spur and ultimately lead to the break-up of the EU. (Maybe. Big topic. Certainly, the overall geo-political stakes are high.)

    Ursula v. d. Liar is qualified as Med. Doc, and has occupied many top posts in German Gvmt, such as Minister of Defense.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_von_der_Leyen

    She is married to Heiko von der Leyen, also a Med. Doc.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heiko_von_der_Leyen

    Since December 2020, he is Medical Director of the US biotech company Orgenesis which is specialized in cell and gene therapies.

    See the Company pub site, https://orgenesis.com/#/

    > .. and that is just from Wikipedia that often hides much stuff.

    Von der Leyen bought from Pfizer, negotiated with A. Bourla (CEO Pfizer), Cov19 vax doses for many, many billions of Euros, the sum is so large “I can’t even” as is often said. Don’t have solid nos. or proof of that, but accounts must be available somewhere.

    Note, neither health insurance cos., med. facilities, or ppl on the ground pay anything for the vax. (In most of Europe, the bill is paid by Gvmts, bang off, no questions, no negotiations, that I have ever heard of or seen hinted at.)

    So.. Who signed the contracts to buy the vaxxes? How, when, was that done? Where can one see the contracts? Where are the vaxxes made, how many factories, where are they, who works there, what? What are the inputs to the factories?

    How does the delivery and shipping go? Who delivers (drives on land) from where to where? Under what protocols, strictures? (Temperature? Handling? Safety? Handling at the point of jabbing?) We are talking billions of doses!

    It is possible (I tested this out a few years ago) to track the production of yoghurt, manufacture, packaging, transport, sale etc. in the EU. It is wearisome and not too interesting, and basically shows that transport costs are HUGE. (E.g the UK exports a lot of yogs. and imports a lot too..)

    But what’s up with these mystery vaxxes?

    #94439
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    Thanks to Mr House – for directing our attention to Gail Tverberg’s most recent post. It is a gut punch, a direct analysis/presentation of our place on the “curve”. And it makes perfect sense to me.

    I am not the same person I was before reading it.

    Is it possible that the world is approaching end times?

    There is no WAY out…or is there?

    According to Gail, the acceleration leading to collapse is completely unavoidable and underway. Given that we have perhaps a maximum of 25 – 30 years until this phase ends, how do we prepare? Our gardens, local community connections/networks, and other strategies shared here – are an essential part. However, the deeper Heart/Soul work is a vast untapped reservoir and may offer the greatest pool of possibilities.

    Oxymoron offers what is perhaps the only Way forward.

    “…let us at least know deep in the Heart of our being that though this body and life is like one season for just one leaf on an old oak tree that one day falls as finished to the dirt, that we are not who we think we are but The Son of God”.

    Well said. So how do we go beyond limited thinking and LIVE this UNDERSTANDING?

    #94440
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Michael: “… the native peoples do not pay taxes on their land and often governments who have made agreements with the native peoples also have continuing obligations towards them ..”

    We have quite a few indigenous tribes here in NY. Yes, there are agreements. But those in power just change the rules when one of those agreements doesn’t suit their purposes. There doesn’t seem to be much feeling of obligation to the original treaties whatsoever.

    #94441
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @boilingfrog: “yesterday it occurred to me that the old adage about not talking about “politics or religion” has now extended to “healthcare”.

    I feel that not discussing healthcare has been included in that mix for years, if not decades. Some examples: Try mentioning you don’t agree with annual mammograms. Try pointing out there are downsides to colonoscopies. Question children getting over 30 vaccinations by the time they’re 5 or 6 years old. Mention that what passes for preventive care is actually not preventative, but diagnostic. Question the use of a pharmaceutical to relieve symptoms when that same pharmaceutical creates more symptoms that then need to be treated .. with more pharmaceuticals.

    I believe Robert Kennedy, Jr., talked about this in his Tucker Carlson interview (I may be misremembering which interview it was, but I know Bobby, Jr., mentions this).

    #94442
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @chooch, Fauci actually said this? “…which strongly suggest that boosters will give you cross protection against a number of variants …”

    Wasn’t it just a few months ago the Delta variant was used as the excuse for why the vaccines were failing to provide protection against infection?

    I literally cannot keep up with the stupidity anymore.

    #94443
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    One question I have always wanted to pose to those who believe the narrative pertaining to the “expert” claim that natural immunity doesn’t exist and vaccination is the only way to defeat a disease.

    When I was child, there were no mumps or chickenpox vaccines. There were vaccines for polio, smallpox, german measles, tetanus, and rubella from what I recall, and I got those. I caught the mumps naturally (Twice actually. Spent about a week dealing with the right lymph node then a month later the left side) and then had chickenpox. Before 2021, I was told that once we had these childhood diseases we were immune for life (even though chickenpox could lead to shingles when older, I haven’t gotten shingles).

    Thus, if natural immunity isn’t a thing, why hasn’t anyone pushed for me to get vaccinated against mumps and chickenpox? Since both are dangerous when caught as an adult, right? Why no forced vaccination for those?

    Yes, I know. Don’t give them any ideas, but it does serve as a good rhetorical question to those who push the COVID vax for everyone and anyone.

    #94444
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “Ursula Van Der Leyen, the head of the EU commission, told the press on Wednesday that she is in favour of scrapping the long-standing Nuremburg Code and forcing people to get vaccinated against COVID.”

    Forcing people to get the injections would be a way of avoiding the “embarrassment” of having pre-purchased more vaxx than the EU really needed for 2022 and 2023.

    April 23, 2021 [cityam.com]
    EU to seal world’s biggest ever vaccine deal with Pfizer
    Under the deal, the bloc will buy up 1.8bn doses of the Pfizer-Biontech’s vaccine, adding to the 600m shots it has already contracted from the firms. European Commission president Ursula van der Leyen said that the doses would be delivered over the next two years.

    May 8, 2021 [Twitter]
    Ursula von der Leyen
    @vonderleyen
    Happy to announce that @EU_Commission has just approved a contract for guaranteed 900 million doses (+900 million options) with @BioNTech_Group @Pfizer for 2021-2023.
    Other contracts and other vaccine technologies will follow.

    Public Citizen has a report with links to the unredacted agreements Pfizer made with various governments, including the European Commission.

    https://www.citizen.org/news/report-how-pfizer-silences-world-governments-in-vaccine-negotiations/

    #94445
    hexadec
    Participant

    I’m not a tweeter but the obvious reply to Topol would be:
    Try pulling your head out of your ass.

    #94446
    John Day
    Participant

    Image of gardener sweeping the pavers in the garden, with some new structure rising in the background
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/12/bad-covid-vaccine-batch-numbers.html

    There is a lot you have already seen here, but “worth repeating”, and also:

    ​I have been introduced to the Medical Vitamin-D research of David Grimes MD. Here he explores a Calcitriol study from a September post. Deaths went from 12% without this active vitamin-D supplement to 0 in the supplemented group, and ICU admissions were also reduced. He points out that Safety-Rules in management of data like this, especially in the context of so many other studies showing benefits of vitamin-D. It is much safer than the current “vaccines”, and appears reliably beneficial, in any form.
    ​http://www.drdavidgrimes.com/2021/09/covid-19-vitamin-d-rct-of-calcitriol.html

    Here are the summaries of many studies using single or occasionally-recurrent high doses of vitamin D3 or vitamin D2. It appears that doses of 200,000 to 300,000 units of either of these forms (D3 is OTC. D2 is Rx) provides a normalization, or even optimization of blood level of this “hormone”, which allows the immune system to function normally. [That is 40-60 pills of 5000 unit D3, or 4-6 pills of (Rx) 50,000 unit D2.]
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC4128480/

    History trying to rhyme? Thanks Noirette (in Neutral Switzerland). [Ursula is an MD, as is her husband, deeply involved in novel biological treatment companies.]
    SHOCKING: In the wake of Austria’s drastic lockdown of unvaccinated people, EU chief calls for throwing out Nuremberg Code
    Ursula Van Der Leyen, the head of the EU commission, told the press on Wednesday that she is in favour of scrapping the long-standing Nuremburg Code and forcing people to get vaccinated against COVID.
    https://thepostmillennial.com/eu-chief-nuremberg-code

    #94447
    Kimo
    Participant

    I have seen conflicting evidence about the origins of Covid19, perhaps it’s because of it being a variant of the original release of a progenitor around Jan 2018… from China.
    The discovery of Omicron adds to that evidence, as it is not a Covid19 variant, but they share a common ancestor, Alpha 20 (see section 7b).

    China’s CCP Concealed SARS-CoV-2 Presence in China as Far Back as March 2018

    #94449
    John Day
    Participant

    Go Gail (Tverberg)! https://ourfiniteworld.com/

    The need for vaccine passports in some countries reminds a person of Revelation 13:17, “they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.” In fact, people in Sweden are getting microchip implants after its latest COVID passport mandate.

    Some people believe that Revelation 12 describes the Antichrist; that is, the polar opposite of Christ. Before the world comes to an end, Revelation 12 seems to predict a great fight against this Antichrist, which Christ wins. I could imagine Anthony Fauci being the Antichrist.

    We are not used to living in a world where very little that is published by the Mainstream Media makes sense. But when we live in a time where no one wants to hear what is true, the system changes in a bizarre way, so that a great deal that is published is false.

    It is disturbing to think that we may be living near the end of the world economy, but there is an upside to this situation. We have had the opportunity to live at a time with more conveniences than any other civilization. We can appreciate the many conveniences we have.

    We also have the opportunity to decide how we want to live the rest of our lives. We have been led for many years down the path of believing that economic growth will last forever; all we need to do is have faith in the government and our educational institutions. If we figure out that this really isn’t the path to follow, we can change course now. If we want to choose a more spiritual approach, this is a choice we can still make.

    #94450
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Noirette, Doc Robinson, it would be bad if any EU politician called for the scrapping of the Nuremberg Code, but for the president of the commission to do that and, a German, nota bene, is completely unforgivable. She should be dismissed immediately and preferably thrown in jail for a very long time. As long as she remains in power I am 100% anti-EU.

    #94451
    John Day
    Participant

    Kimo found this. It posits that COVID is transmitted through fecal aerosols, and got out of a Chinese lab in early 2018, spreading within Asia without comment, except “untyped flu deaths”.
    It is elegant and worthy of serious consideration. This towards the end:

    China’s CCP Concealed SARS-CoV-2 Presence in China as Far Back as March 2018

    7b. Omicron Variant – genetics are older than and lineage does not connect back to Dec 2019 ‘wild’ type

    Finally, emergence of the Omicron variant of SARS-CoV-2 in Botswana in November of 2021 presents another post October 2019 falsification-level event. The Omicron variant of SARS-CoV-2 has alarmed many scientists due to the sheer number of genetic mutations it carries — 93 in all, including 32 in the spike protein alone, 16 silent, 27 nucleotide deletions, 1 nucleotide insertion, and at least 43 mutations that are unique to Omicron (see both left and right hand panels in Exhibit 7.6 below).16 17 In all, Omicron’s mutation set bears 29% nucleotide deletions, which is highly divergent as compared to the known SARS-CoV-2 phylogeny shown on the left side of Exhibit 7.6 below. This percentage of deletions (27 of 93) and amino acid mutations (50 of 93) both far exceed the number of much more likely silent-synonymous mutations (16 of 93). This suggests that the ‘deletions’ are rather actually ‘insertions’ which occurred in the lineage to the 2 Feb 2020 Alpha Variant Clade 20B. The terminology inversion stemming from an effort to stuff a 10 pound virus divergence into a 2 pound bag of posterity. We will treat these generically (conservatively) as INDELs (insertion-deletions) therefore in the genetic clock analysis later in this segment of Question #7.

    Under this paradigm, if Omicron turns out to be highly transmissible but mild in terms of symptomatic severity – then it has a great likelihood of being the direct descendant of the pre-Wuhan 2018/19, 173 nation (Zone I and II in Exhibit 4.5 above) immunity-conferring strain of Covid conjectured within this article.

    #94452

    Ursula wants to scrap the Nuremberg Code?
    Well, at least she admits it applies!
    Who are these people!?

    #94453
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Two headlines, one seems misleading:

    Two Israeli doctors test positive for Omicron COVID variant
    Both doctors were fully vaccinated with three shots of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine [including the booster].

    — The Jerusalem Post, December 1, 2021

    Two of the state’s first three cases of omicron variant did not have booster shots
    — Baltimore Sun, December 4, 2021

    [But, 3 out of 4 fully-vaxxed people in Maryland have not been injected with the booster.]

    #94454
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    28X increase in stillbirths in multiple parts of Canada
    But get this… it’s only happening to vaccinated moms. I wonder what is causing this? Nobody has a clue. When Canada’s top health official was asked for evidence, she said to trust her.

    by Steve Kirsch
    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/28x-increase-in-stillbirths-in-multiple

    #94455
    Kimo
    Participant

    I am think back to that soothsayer, who someone posted here last August(someone still have the link?). She encouraged the unvaxed to hang tough, predicting that between August and now, things on the 20th of each month would at first look near hopeless, and turn the corner Oct/Nov. It was a good call, as I was comforted by her words hung tough. Looking back, I wonder if this Lancet paper of Nov 17th will be the turning point, where they concluded, rather conservatively:
    “Many decisionmakers assume that the vaccinated can be excluded as a source of transmission. It appears to be grossly negligent to ignore the vaccinated population as a possible and relevant source of transmission when deciding about public health control measures.”
    Perhaps there was a more relevant event?
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext?s=08#%20

    #94456
    zerosum
    Participant

    March 2018
    I can relate in these ways
    1. Getting a bad flue lasting 3 weeks before covid was recognized and declared a pandemic
    2. I found it impossible for the virus to travel and to kill so many senior around the world at a speed faster than light.
    3. Impossible that all of our leaders, influencers, experts would be in agreement with the same knowledge without collusion and hidden motive

    China’s CCP Concealed SARS-CoV-2 Presence in China as Far Back as March 2018


    China’s CCP Concealed SARS-CoV-2 Presence in China as Far Back as March 2018
    Posted on November 15, 2021 by The Ethical Skeptic

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