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Vincent van Gogh Quay with Men Unloading Sand Barges 1888

 

 

A comment by notorious daily commenter Dr.D. on Sunday took me back a few years. He was reacting to someone who wrote this about our take on the Ukraine situation:

“I am just adding a little balance to a very one sided group who have very deep seated bias against the West and are blind to any faults on the other side.”

Absolutely brilliant. People easily forget that they are being bombarded with one-dimensional echo chamber “news” 25 hours a day, and when someone says something that differs from this, they think they must parrot the 25 hour-a-day stuff to provide “balance”. The MSM can spout one dimension as much as they wish, but if you call BS on that, you have to quote the entire echo chamber, or you are not believable. I swear people don’t see that they are doing it.

That is exactly what happened in 2015 when Trump “unexpectedly” became a threat to Hillary’s god-adorned aspirations. The entire media apparatus, with very few exceptions, started churning out a hundred Orange Man Bad pieces a day. And when I dared put out some different views, I became a blind Trump groupie. Then, just as now, I said: we ARE the balance. To be credible to these folks, I should have said bad things about Trump. But everybody was already doing that. So we wouldn’t have added anything, just confirmed bias.

In the same vein, many people became labeled dangerous anti-vaxxers for asking questions about Pfizer and Fauci and his gang. It’s such a predictable chain of events, it’s embarrassing. Well, nobody was ever investigated and persecuted to the extent that Trump was, and every last little bit of it fell flat on its face. But it still goes on. Inside the echo chamber, nobody hears the echo.

The evidence of harm done by the vaccines, lockdowns and masks is slowly creeping out into daylight despite the biggest cover-up campaign in history, but the vaccines and mandates also continue. It takes a long time to right so many wrongs. Because a lot of influential people would have to eat a lot of crow, and they lean on each other. And on Pfizers payouts.

And now we play the same fools game, because, as Dr. D. says below: “What did Russia do to us? Even after 1945? Not much really. We hated them on general principles of rival powers: ‘Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down’ – 1st NATO commander. “

To repeat, we ARE the balance, we don’t have to provide it, it’s all already there right in front of your eyes.

Here’s the Dr.:

 

 

Dr. D.: I dunno, there’s a lot of history to go around. We’re hearing a lot of anti-Russia, in general news, we here become the counterweight to that, and then you become the counter-counter weight, or…simply the party line? See why it doesn’t go off well.

Oh yeah, there’s a lot in all those parts. I don’t especially care about either of them because they’re not my countries, but the thing has been run so badly they’ve given me strong opinions I don’t want. Of our own country antagonizing them, like everyone else on earth. And Ukraine, or translation: “Borderlands” have been a Western special-op for CENTURIES. The Vatican and West were meddling there to piss off Russia in order to shove back Eastern Orthodox rivals. The Holodomor was real and I used to mention it quite often. However, that doesn’t mean that Stalin’s enemies, who would have flipped his government, weren’t actually from there, because, again, the British and other countries are always there, always doing the same thing.

“Charge of the Light Brigade.” This time Stalin got off the British/Western leash they assassinated the Tsar Nickolas for…and all his heirs of course. They were British family – as they’re all inbred with the Coburg Saxes – so it’s either more brutal, or the more’s I don’t care being an American. Let them. But I would expect they were using Ukraine as always to recapture Russia for the British/NY Bolsheviks they paid a fortune to install. …They did steal all the gold in Russia and sent it to London under Trotsky tho, so they broke even.

You have to understand, and from the “Poland Invades” article that — unlike the U.S. and Oz — there are no stable borders there. There is no “Poland”. There is no “Ukraine”. There is no “Germany”. Those ethnic peoples live all over and the borders change every 50 or 70 years in yet another war, going back to the stone age. So Russia has been “invaded”, and also “invaded” others. But most of the time, who can tell? Right now Russia has “invaded” to “make” Russians Russia. Which they already were. And already wanted. And the Ukrainians by shelling them showed they didn’t want it. Does that make any sense?

And no, it’s nowhere near just those four Oblasts, for example Yanukovych got about 50% of the vote, right down Russian/Ukraine lines, and that was pretty normal going back to Ukraine’s independence, which was a totally new event, as Ukraine wasn’t a country with these principles or borders ‘til 1990. Is that one of the youngest nations on earth? So which Ukraine are we supporting? Ivan’s? Nicholas II’s? Stalin’s? Khrushchev’s? Biden and London support Khrushchev, it seems, and no surprise. So Russia could take about half the country, which is well over 60% Russian support, and probably will. We’ve said this many times, including the people you disagree with, like Lira. They will carve off the rest in pieces as being too much trouble, and hand that trouble to Poland, but remains to be seen as you say.

 

Was Maidan real? Yes. All Color Revolutions are “real”. The same way the Summer of Love non-stop riots and murders by BLM and Antifa are “real”. There are ALWAYS grievances and differences, NATO and the Lettermen pay huge money, easily seen, to fund the dissent, pay the protestors (this was wide open and reported) and provide the fringe with guns and training. Poland’s no different. Sure, a lot of Poles, maybe 90% of them didn’t like the Russian control. I wouldn’t either. But that doesn’t mean MI6 didn’t send millions a month there to stir up trouble: we know they did and MI6 is very proud of it. When the USSR fell, they didn’t stop or anything, they stole Poland and then used Poland to steal Russia like all nations would. So is that “Real”? Or “Not Real”? If I pay $1M for your neighbor to hate you and give you a hard time, does he really? Or if I stopped would he stop too? The world may never know because MI6 and others will never stop.

Easy to see real conflict between Poland, Lithuania, even Finland, a little over that. What’s hard to see is the far harsher, irrational, unforgiving hatred of Russian ALLIES to hate and destroy them. Again, Britain and the U.S. were Russian – Soviet, Stalin’s – ALLIES. What did Russia do to us? Even after 1945? Not much really. We hated them on general principles of rival powers: ‘Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down’ – 1st NATO commander. That was the PURPOSE of NATO. To destroy Germany like they did last week with NordStream. What? Why? Why keep the Germans down? For that matter, why keep the Yanks in? GTFO. Said so at the time. Say so every day.

What Atonement would or should Russia make? They were destroyed and their life expectancy dropped by 10 years. They were mercilessly plundered by the West. Don’t you think they paid and WE should be the ones to atone now? Poland said Ukraine never apologized or atoned for them either, if we’re all picking sides here. So maybe we should invade Ukraine and give it to Poland? The U.S. not only hasn’t atoned, but commits a new invasion and war crime daily, and use Australian help to do it. I could care less if anyone atones compared to just stop doing it, which is about all we can ask.

Like, as you say, China, which is making daily moves to do this right now, undermining nations, making trouble, buying politicians, setting up their own police. Who atones first? Them? Or us for doing the same thing to them since 1949? They only JUST stopped a color revolution there, with the Umbrella Fiasco, and we’re trying to cripple them, their chips, Taiwan, their food, and any other murder we can think of.

And back to Ukraine: no, the war is not organic, is obviously and enormously paid for, wide open in the news. Like if I pay your neighbor $50B to kill you, that’s CLEARLY not organic. By us, the U.S. U.K. and Oz, and Ukraine, as a country that sort of doesn’t exist is split several ways but at a minimum half and half Ukr and Rus, as seen in the entire 30 year history of voting. Russia is merely taking the 90+ Russia supporter areas (so far), not even the 80% voters that run over to the Dnieper. That’s actually UN approved, as it’s bloody Chapter 1, Article 1, “To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples.”

It was re-affirmed in 14 December 1960 with the “Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples”, which supported the granting of independence to colonial countries and people by providing an inevitable legal linkage [of] self-determination”

 

This of course is when the wind blows from the west and the UN can tell a hawk from a handsaw. All even-numbered days they declare every existing borders worldwide is sacrosanct (except our own) and you can’t just rewrite them or secede ‘cause you feel like it. The two legal principles are in direct opposition, so they simply pick whatever London and NY prefer at the time. It’s an even-numbered day today, so London sez Crimea and Ukraine are illegal votes, but India and Serbia are legal ones. When they lost in 2013 and Ukraine democratically voted to side (trade) with Russia, they called shenanigans and ran an open, paid, illegal coup AGAINST democracy and self-determination which remains to this day.

So…what do you mean? The only power is POWER. The only purpose is POWER. Law is what you can enforce with a gun. By murdering Russians. London enforced Ukraine with a gun in Kiev from 2013 to now. Russia is merely un-enforcing a small part of it. See?

 

 

 

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    Vincent van Gogh Quay with Men Unloading Sand Barges 1888     A comment by notorious daily commenter Dr.D. on Sunday took me back a few year
    [See the full post at: We ARE The Balance]

    #119839
    John Day
    Participant

    Lots of constructive comments yesterday. Polemos did particularly well, I think.
    Debate was more civil, and could get even more civil, too. 🙂

    It’s not just that people find echo-chambers of shared belief systems, but that those echo-chambers are driven to resonate against each other, defining the groups further by making sharply antagonistic identity distinctions between rival groups.
    How digital media drive affective polarization through partisan sorting
    This paper suggests that this mounting evidence provides not only reason to reject the echo chamber hypothesis but also the foundation for an alternative causal mechanism. To propose such a mechanism, the paper draws on the literatures on affective polarization, digital media, and opinion dynamics. From the affective polarization literature, we follow the move from seeing polarization as diverging issue positions to rooted in sorting: an alignment of differences which is effectively dividing the electorate into two increasingly homogeneous megaparties. To explain the rise in sorting, the paper draws on opinion dynamics and digital media research to present a model which essentially turns the echo chamber on its head: it is not isolation from opposing views that drives polarization but precisely the fact that digital media bring us to interact outside our local bubble. When individuals interact locally, the outcome is a stable plural patchwork of cross-cutting conflicts. By encouraging nonlocal interaction, digital media drive an alignment of conflicts along partisan lines, thus effacing the counterbalancing effects of local heterogeneity. The result is polarization, even if individual interaction leads to convergence. The model thus suggests that digital media polarize through partisan sorting, creating a maelstrom in which more and more identities, beliefs, and cultural preferences become drawn into an all-encompassing societal division.
    https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2207159119

    #119851
    willem
    Participant

    I started on a reply, but Dr. D pretty much covers all the bases. One point worth elaborating on is the idea of self-determination as expressed by the UN.

    Dr. D has duly noted the shifting application of the “borders are sacred” concept and the “self determination” concept, which seem mutually exclusive.

    It’s worth pointing out that Ukraine could have easily made a go of it as a nation, without giving Russia any reason to object, if it had simply included the Russian-speaking part of its population in its national vision. Instead (and without the history lesson, the simplest way to put it), Ukraine, feeling justified by ethnic hatred, pushed them away in the worst possible manner, leading to where we are today.

    I don’t know if it was an even-numbered or odd-numbered day when the decision was made, but it is an amazing display of Western hypocrisy to support Ukraine in a war it ultimately brought on itself by its lack of tolerance for people very much like themselves culturally. After all, those same Western governments are force-feeding millions of migrants to their own citizenry–migrants coming from cultures most of which are vastly different from their own. And those governments are exhorting their own people to tolerate and even welcome those people.

    So which principle are we standing for here?

    #119853
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Left entirely to their own devices people do remarkably well at practically everything. Sure, they misbehave selfishly from time to time, as with any family or tribe, but the bad action tends to be small scale and gets sorted out “small scale” before spreading very far or getting out of hand.

    It’s only when they gang up that they get into serious trouble, and when gangs do create serious trouble the trouble will always contain the element ( in some form or other) of person A getting person B to do something bad to person C, for the benefit of person A.

    Russia has never done anything remarkably bad to America, but the Spy Cops at the top of America are doing their damnedest to obliterate Russia and salt the earth it stands upon. That makes no sense.

    What makes sense is that America ( as person ‘B’) has been influenced to do something bad to Russia (the hapless victim, Person ‘C) at the behest of a very nasty cabal that has been pushing a very nasty agenda for very nasty reasons using very nasty methods.

    Trying to save the world without identifying and neutralizing that “Person A” cabal is like trying to save the Titanic by bailing it’s bilges.

    #119856
    Dr. D
    Participant

    And I thought the phrasing on that was less clear than usual, being late at night.

    I’m not opposed to opposing views, but they have to present evidence and not just be reverse-reverse bc CNN’s got that covered. What the PNAS (pronounce that out loud) says is that they discovered the best and organic use of the internet is to create DIVISION. Doesn’t matter what division, or with who, or who’s right. That’s not the point. Just sow confusion, agitation, ill-will, and lies. Who is the Prince of Lies? Besides Zucker and Murdock?

    It’s working like a charm, which is why there’s no “win” here. If we fight, THEY win. Yet if we call out crimes, name hypocrisy, present information, we “fight”, or it can be taken that way.

    So they stand for whatever principle makes the most lies, fighting, murder, and MONEY that minute.

    Also, London more accurately stole the gold FIRST: Tsar was convinced to give his cousins (literally) an ENORMOUS loan in gold. No doubt like the Chinese did under Clinton (who also didn’t pay it back. Thus Operation Twist). No sooner was the ink dry than London used the gold and put it on a private train with Lenin, direct paid to Moscow to topple Tsar Nick and kill all his young children. No doubt they stole the crap out of everything and got into debt during the Red and White Bolsheviks, but I don’t know as much about that part except that it’s the template for the present U.S. Civil War.

    Okay, if that wasn’t a plan, it sure was one heck of a coincidence, wasn’t it? You loan me $100B and then you die so I don’t have to pay you back? Is that a motive? Never trust the Anglos. Ask any Indian. (East OR Native)

    I hope Redneck’s okay, I was wondering as an old surfer, if he’s moved over to wind and waveboards or kayaking.

    #119879
    citizenx
    Participant

    Debate was more civil, and could get even more civil, too.

    Oh really?

    Civil Dis-obedience has its place in a civil society… Except the US Govt, Covidian Cult, and MIC War Cult are NOT civil in words, actions or intent.

    “They” are murdering, raping, lying, cheating, stealing, torturing abusers. Abusing their power by abusing others. Civil behavior dealing with murdering psychopaths? No thanks.

    If you and Susie-108 truly “believe” playing paddy cakes and chanting kumbaya with Mengele (fauci-wolensky), Goebbels (msm, WH spokespersons), Adolf (big guy Pedo Joe) and their entire ensemble of Cultists… I do wonder if a particular Religion of Ism may have shifted you into a passive cult of roll the fuck over and abuse me harder daddy govt.

    Would you try and reform them with civil chanting and paddy cakes before or after their incarceration? How effective has civil discourse been these last 3 years with the Cult Leaders and their Cult members?

    Russia is wise enough to realize the West is an agreement incapable, untrustworthy backstabbing adversary. You haven’t figured that out yet? Maybe if you beg harder and be more civil they’ll give you your job back? Beg harder to daddy govt… Better yet, try reasoning with an impetuous 2 yo in the midst of their meltdown temper tantrum. Have you tried negotiating with them? Maybe if I just get 2 jabs instead of 5, can I have my job back now daddy?

    Corner these people with their crimes against humanity… and most of them will reach for the cyanide or blow their own brains out rather than face reality of their own actions and crimes inflicted. They are cowards. They don’t play fair, they happily abuse you, fire you, and starve you…just to inject you again and again and again. Comply? No. Be civil? fuck No.

    I was in the midst of the Cult, I saw what they did, I heard what they said. They deserve no mercy, no forgiveness, and no room to pull this shit ever again.

    Fauci- should be fired immediately, stripped of all assets, put in solitary confinement till dead. They did it to Assange for telling the truth. The Covid Cult members have no place in civil society, they broke the social contract, they deserve shame and solitary confinement til their last breath.

    Fort Detrick Tribunal for Crimes against Humanity.

    The Cultists are counting on Civil Discourse for the “Oooops little mistake opt out” that the dum dum population will just forget about. Or as Gore Vidal noted-

    America has Monday morning amnesia, they can’t remember a thing from the week before

    Three years later and they are still pushing garbage vaccines and a major War for distraction. They murder in the name of health and safety, and they murder in the name of freedom and democracy.
    Civil discourse huh?

    As a citizen I must ask: What is true? What is false?

    Political language, as used by politicians, does not venture
    into any of this territory since the majority of politicians, on the
    evidence available to us, are interested not in truth but in power
    and in the maintenance of that power. To maintain that power
    it is essential that people remain in ignorance, that they live in
    ignorance of the truth, even the truth of their own lives. What
    surrounds us therefore is a vast tapestry of lies, upon which we
    feed.

    Everyone knows what happened in the Soviet Union and
    throughout Eastern Europe during the post-war period: the
    systematic brutality, the widespread atrocities, the ruthless
    suppression of independent thought. All this has been fully
    documented and verified.
    But my contention here is that the US crimes in the same period
    have only been superficially recorded, let alone documented, let
    alone acknowledged, let alone recognised as crimes at all. I believe
    this must be addressed and that the truth has considerable bearing
    on where the world stands now.

    The United States supported and in many cases engendered
    every right wing military dictatorship in the world after the end
    of the Second World War. I refer to Indonesia, Greece, Uruguay,
    Brazil, Paraguay, Haiti, Turkey, the Philippines, Guatemala, El
    Salvador, and, of course, Chile.

    Hundreds of thousands of deaths took place throughout
    these countries. Did they take place? And are they in all cases
    attributable to US foreign policy? The answer is yes they did take
    place and they are attributable to American foreign policy. But you wouldn’t know it.

    It never happened. Nothing ever happened. Even while it
    was happening it wasn’t happening. It didn’t matter. It was of no
    interest. The crimes of the United States have been systematic,
    constant, vicious, remorseless, but very few people have actually
    talked about them. You have to hand it to America. It has
    exercised a quite clinical manipulation of power worldwide while
    masquerading as a force for universal good. It’s a brilliant, even
    witty, highly successful act of hypnosis.

    How many people do you have to kill before you qualify to be
    described as a mass murderer and a war criminal? One hundred
    thousand? More than enough, I would have thought.
    Harold Pinter 2005

    Redneck is just another arrogant, brainwashed, hypocritical Westerner. A symbolical place holder for the mental illness and rot that permeates the collective West and all its lies, obfuscations and abuses.

    #119883
    Polemos
    Participant

    citizenx, it’s clear John Day means here, where you are, this site, with us. Either we are civil, and thus the balance, or we are uncivil, and thus contribute to the antagonisms that make us ever slightly mad.

    I get your fire, your aggression, your hostility, to the Cultists (and CounterCultists!) outside, but what do you want to do here, with us, this site, where you are? Clearly, some people want to be able to share with diverging viewpoints and come to some kind of understanding that benefits one another. You can be like the scat-tossers dumping coprolites, and bring that incivility they are promoting out there into here, but then you’re the window, the tunnel, the funnel, that brings that incivility and strife into this place, here.

    Is that what you really want to be? Do you, who are so adamantly opposing the Cultists (and CounterCultists!) who seek to murder and destroy and corrupt, want to be their vessel to invade this site, where you are, with us, here? Do you want to be their pawn and their tool?

    They, they, they —you say: what about us, here, with you, being open, trying to be different and yet challenging and yet persuasive and yet . . . wiser? Are you with us, or are you caught up by They?

    I think you misunderstand Redneck, but maybe there’s a long history between the two of you that’s just hard to let go. Sure, Redneck says things about Russia that don’t make sense from my perspective, but to let that get to me —that’s not a sign of emotional strength and self-discipline, is it? He usually posts to the same Twitter news feed with the same Russian talking heads saying the same disparaging things in Russian for Russians, so it’s interesting enough for me to see into a space of the world that’s not my own. That’s a kind of joy in being a voyeur: being exposed to what I wouldn’t normally. Redneck hasn’t really been there rah-rahing NATO, or the West, or Biden. You won’t find it.

    But as Dr D does, he’s trying to put a hand on the lathe we are all putting hands onto, trying to find balance and giving enough respect to each of the folks here so that each of them has the opportunity make their own minds up. Not let that mind get driven into madness by the incivility of the They. Not get caught up in the feverish reactions the They want you enslaved by. It’s a guerilla war fought out there with information laden with emotional manipulation. Brainwashing is not just parroting the party line.

    Brainwashing is also being driven mad with one’s hatred for a scapegoat. Before Winston Smith fell in love with Big Brother, he first had to learn how much he really hated. And every day, the people get their Two Minutes to reinforce the systems of control, which is not to say control to “support” for the regime. Impatience, incivility, resistant to shifting perspective: tools to channel someone into a less effective state (as Dr D Rich reminds me and I still think about daily, for me, to learn from)

    Rage, thymos, menace: we’re not your enemies here. You’re with us. We are with you, here, this site. Not them. Not They. Us with you. We.

    #119890
    Redneck
    Participant

    I wrote a reply to Dr.D late last night back on yesterdays page , I was going to bring it over and paste it here but I could not find it , sometimes I forget to push the post button , duh. Cognitive decline.
    You are the balance but so polarised it becomes ineffective. Unless you are already a rabid West hater these pages look like some kind of cult org these days. I have visited TAE for many years , since back in the Nicole days , it was never this closed and polarised. The whole world is polarised to be fair, you all are just unable to accept that Russia and Putin are not perfect , it is like a cult. Open up a bit or are you afraid of being ostracised by the group? Just a little bit of interest in Russia itself other than the usual gushing and fawning here would be refreshing.
    I see this on all sides all around. If I visit friends and they are all West haters and I say even the tiniest , weeniest critical thing about Putin /Russia I just get yelled over the top of , it is crazy , actually yelling and screaming! If I say something pro Putin to the proWest side usually the reaction is more civilised ,still very critical but that side is not quite so emotional in general but so sure they are right.
    I am completely aware of the system and how it works , the City , Wall st. , who I think you will find also funded the Bolshys, how Roschild became the richest man in Europe through the Waterloo scam , the Maidan , Nuland and the NWO , blah , blah , blah , whatever , all of it.
    I don’t need to condemn them, you all are doing that in spades! ad nauseam ! every day ! every article and comment ! LOL!
    Also I said in my reply last night that yes , I agree the West are arseholes. I am not pro West and not pro Russia on the ground in the war, maybe that is why I can see the faults on both sides there.

    Anyway what I believe and say is of no consequence , do you all think that spruking here every day is going to have any material effect on the world? Do you think getting angry at me or any body that don’t agree with you , getting anxious and worried , fretting about the world is going to make it change? If you suffer for the world and all it’s problems it does not have any effect on the world , it only effects you. I am powerless , Dr.D is powerless Raul is powerless , none of us as individuals or as groups can change a fuckin thing. All the words written here are just dust in the wind! We can talk and write and hurl abuse or cuddles and prophesies and pontificate but will it accomplish anything. Has anything changed by voting these many years?The truckers accomplished nothing as far as I know. The Dutch farmers , have they got their demands met? At least they are on the streets, we are on the keyboards.Have the Russians got the Covid scam totally removed and everybody compensated? We are dust under the feet of the oligarchs and central banks, all this righteousness and shouting won’t change a damn thing, don’t take it all so seriously , get a life , stop being a media junky , ok take a look but no need to spend hours online talking your book , unless you are getting paid that is!
    Todays good guys are tomorrow’s baddies and visa versa , it all just turns and turns. Why would I get on the same old bandwagon as every one else unless of course I feel insecure and want to be accepted into the fold or scared to be on the outside of the group. I can assure you I am not going to run and hide because of a little cyber battle , at the same time I have a life with lots of projects to do and shit to maintain , I don’t have the time or inclination to sit here and two finger type for hours ,
    My skin is thick and yes Dr. D I have not done stand up surfing for about two years, I prefer a goat boat , a sit-down surfing paddle board although that is partly a function of the gutless waves we have here on the coast.
    My point is that TAE has become so closed to any body at all who might want to point out even the smallest fault with Russia/Putin they are immediately branded a troll and mostly ignored , I know , don’t feed the trolls , it is just like the sites that are pro West , closed and cult like , but that’s ok , I don’t want to be accepted by any group. Why don’t I go somewhere else then? ( TAE folk hold their breath hoping he is going to walk away, please, please!) I visit about a half a dozen sites in a day now , I used to do a lot more but it is just so polarised and so much bias , most have gone the same way . Click bait feeding every bodies bias , after all there is a lot of money to be made and any cock and bull predictions will be devoured and shared voraciously .Every body knows who blew up the pipeline. Every body knows the end is near for the dollar , every body knows the future , yeah right. Lira the pornographer or whatever he is supposed to be is the new Oracle , right , LOL.
    Only the angry ones who just have to let fly will post a reply , the rest just look away when anything about Russia that does not fit the group narrative is commented on , like Covid, like the high Russian crime rate , like the talking heads on Russian tv crying out for Ukrainian babies to all be drowned in whatever river it was. Or else I see this very strange reply ,”Well , we are just the same or worse!” I still don’t see the logic in that. Occasionally I see excuses like the old chestnut that Stalin was a Georgian that even Dr. D dredged up , I thought he was better than that.
    So much of the subject here is Covid but I have never seen a Covid article about Russia’s handling of it , if there was one I missed it .The fact that Putin got jabbed endlessly and is scared stiff of it and has been sitting at tables forty feet away if the person he meets refuses to be vaccinated , the fact that Russia went fully down the WEF/UN route with all the same shit that the West did . But Putin rides the bear , bare chested , a judo guru , but scared of the flu? No comment? Not curious? There is no curiosity here about that at all ? While about fifty percent of articles on still TAE obsess over it?
    Personally I very rarely ever read any Covid articles any more . Why I would want to read the same articles over and over again I don’t know. In fact it is I rarely read anything more that the headlines anywhere , not just here.
    Similarly my criticism of your usual mob of pro Russia and China spruikers . They have been so wrong about the war for so long I don’t know why they still get so much space and reverence and Pepe we know is a paid mouthpiece for the CCP , but no comment , crickets! They should be right soon though , eventually they must be right , right?
    I gotta go , big day again , cold and windy to day , a cold blast coming from the Antarctic , goddamn this global warming.

    #119895
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Red, there is some power in getting good info and I find that here. But I get it –

    All the world’s a stage,
    And all the men and women merely players;
    They have their exits and their entrances,
    And one man in his time plays many parts,
    His acts being seven ages. At first, the infant,
    Mewling and puking in the nurse’s arms.
    Then the whining schoolboy, with his satchel
    And shining morning face, creeping like snail
    Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
    Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
    Made to his mistress’ eyebrow. Then a soldier,
    Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard,
    Jealous in honor, sudden and quick in quarrel,
    Seeking the bubble reputation
    Even in the cannon’s mouth. And then the justice,
    In fair round belly with good capon lined,
    With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
    Full of wise saws and modern instances;
    And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
    Into the lean and slippered pantaloon,
    With spectacles on nose and pouch on side;
    His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide
    For his shrunk shank, and his big manly voice,
    Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
    And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
    That ends this strange eventful history,
    Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
    Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.

    #119896
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Here is some reading that has stuck with me lately… Pretty sure Jesus was the author IMO

    And what is choice except uncertainty of what we are? ⁴There is no doubt that is not rooted here. ⁵There is no question but reflects this one. ⁶There is no conflict that does not entail the single, simple question, “What am I?”

    2. Yet who could ask this question except one who has refused to recognise himself? ²Only refusal to accept yourself could make the question seem to be sincere. ³The only thing that can be surely known by any living thing is what it is. ⁴From this one point of certainty, it looks on other things as certain as itself.

    3. Uncertainty about what you must be is self-deception on a scale so vast, its magnitude can hardly be conceived. ²To be alive and not to know yourself is to believe that you are really dead. ³For what is life except to be yourself, and what but you can be alive instead? ⁴Who is the doubter? ⁵What is it he doubts? ⁶Whom does he question? ⁷Who can answer him?

    4. He merely states that he is not himself, and therefore, being something else, becomes a questioner of what that something is. ²Yet he could never be alive at all unless he knew the answer. ³If he asks as if he does not know, it merely shows he does not want to be the thing he is. ⁴He has accepted it because he lives; has judged against it and denied its worth, and has decided that he does not know the only certainty by which he lives.

    5. Thus he becomes uncertain of his life, for what it is has been denied by him. ²It is for this denial that you need Atonement. ³Your denial made no change in what you are. ⁴But you have split your mind into what knows and does not know the truth. ⁵You are yourself. ⁶There is no doubt of this. ⁷And yet you doubt it. ⁸But you do not ask what part of you can really doubt yourself. ⁹It cannot really be a part of you that asks this question. ¹⁰For it asks of one who knows the answer. ¹¹Were it part of you, then certainty would be impossible.

    6. Atonement remedies the strange idea that it is possible to doubt yourself, and be unsure of what you really are. ²This is the depth of madness. ³Yet it is the universal question of the world. ⁴What does this mean except the world is mad? ⁵Why share its madness in the sad belief that what is universal here is true?

    7. Nothing the world believes is true. ²It is a place whose purpose is to be a home where those who claim they do not know themselves can come to question what it is they are. ³And they will come again until the time Atonement is accepted, and they learn it is impossible to doubt yourself, and not to be aware of what you are. (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/544#1:3-7:3 | W-139.1:3–7:3)

    #119897
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    The Swiss National Bank just reported an enormous $142.6 BILLION dollar loss in the first 9 months of 2022, which is by far the largest loss in the bank’s 115 year history.

    Well since today’s Debt Rattle is dead due to this new, new, latest greatest thread thing, I’ll comment here:

    Those of us that saw/knew THIS eventuality was coming 20+ years ago & warned EVERYONE financial Armageddon was inevitable, but “We The People” were to pathetic & dumb to even hear it…

    Then in 2008 the NPD sociopaths doubled-down on their extortion racket from The West’s treasuries/central banks to cover their losses. Bush I > Clintoon > Bush II/Cheney/Rumsfeld > Oblahmao (autocrat puppets) + the EU farce, the criminal enterprises were a never ending ca$h cow ~ Exponential rape, pillage, plunder & DEATH for everyone not “protected” by the TPTB/TBTF Mafiosos!

    That jig ran it’s course, then in SEPT 2019 the parasite’s host went terminal & the end of the money-for-nuthin’, chicks-for-free free-for-all was fait accompli, so the criminally insane banksters et al. switched gears to, well…Only an idiot, or true believer, would NOT KNOW what their scorched earth policies (currently enacted/ongoing) became…

    Moral of the adage: You can’t kick a can filled with $500+ trillion in digital currency/notational tonnage ~ You have to go nuclear 😐

    RIM, what exactly is this We ARE The Balance you speak of?

    #119899
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Kassandra:

    When we finally escaped the total madness to a red state, my FIL would call us regularly begging us to get vaccinated, scared we would die (because of the insane national coverage of this state).

    One of my employees told me in a 1:1 meeting that unvaxxinated people should be left to die!

    I’ll never forget what happened, I have to keep talking about it because it seems so unreal. But I have to remember what they are capable of, it’s the only way to keep worse from happening…

    Oh, you think the escalation of Collective Eg0ic Madness (aka Mass Formation Psychosis) has run it’s course ~ That it’s over & all clear? ROFLMAO

    I can assure you, when NPD sociopaths are cornered, THEY become MORE DANGEROUS, NEVER LESS, until they are locked-up and/or dead…

    Explain to me how the SANE UTLRA-MINORITY will implement CORRECTIONS to prevent “worse from happening”?!?

    Asking for a friend…

    Susmarie108:

    Accountability NOT Amnesty!

    The “ask” is more proof of their all-consuming guilt. It is coming out, thanks to Emily for opening Pandora’s Box. Let’s use this opportunity to reset with the demand for expansive INQUIRY.

    Except, at present & foreseeable future, THEY are the gatekeepers!

    Just in case you didn’t know…

    THE dehumanizing of everything. Just like the financialization of everything – they are one and the same! Dr D’s Anti-Life perspective in lights, for all to examine.

    LOVE to All…

    So does that include the “dehumanizers” too?

    Should we just think *GOOD* thoughts, pretending THEY don’t exist with ALL their cheat cards? 😐

    Oh, before you emote off some Buddhist chants/mantras, I do actually pray for the NPD sociopaths, lest my EG0 foment resentment/grievence to pollute & disturb my being to noisily shutout my inner “spiritual” voice…

    But alas, I also understand that sheepishly acquiescing to EVIL is nonspiritual, #AntiLife, AntiTruth & #AntiLove 😐

    I am truly aghast of the hideous deeds done by these monsters, in our names but there are no -0- MEN in my local community to counter the mind-numbing insanity rolling day-after-day across the planet (sorry ladies, you can’t, nor will ever be able to confront EVIL).

    Either We Are The Balance -or- we ain’t…

    But now, said He, Let the one who has a purse take it, and he who has a bag must do the same. And let him who has no sword sell his outer garment and buy one…

    #119902
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    P.P.S. The NATO vs. BRICS+ “War” is a desperate competition scrambling for control of regions (resources) ~ BOTH sides recognize humanity is at the crossroads of *PEAK EVERYTHING*, that current gen pop is unecessary & harmful to the opulence lifestyles of TPTB/TBTF…

    The West, of course, began this *GAME* in earnest 30+ years ago…

    Are not both BRICS+ & NATO “We The Sheeple” both under non-stop assault by “The Virus” + associative “Cures” (Among other things)?!?

    Does anyone really believe that The Rich & Famous, of any real import, are subject to the same?

    Well, do ya punk?

    Me thinks some awfully chatty peoples are still distracted from what’s really going on…

    If a Tree (online comment) falls in the Forest (da Internet), does anyone really hear it?

    All hail my Eg0!!!

    #119906
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    I am just trying to learn,
    figure things out the best I can
    and use that to plan and execute the living of my life.

    We all make mistakes.

    I enjoy this site.

    We live in serious times.

    I feel life in the west in going to change dramatically.

    I see death coming for many people in near future.

    I hope many survive.

    But life is life.

    We can only do our best.

    #119908
    lloyde
    Participant

    Wow, a heavy day on TAE. No wonder I enjoy visiting on occasion. I was wondering where you’re seeing the weather from Mr. Redneck?, we’re certainly getting that Antarctic blast here on the west coast of Tas.

    #119910
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    We live in serious times.

    Serious times requires serious people ~ How many of you TAE serious people voted for Oblah-Mao or Brandon? How many gleefully jumped on the Orange Man Bad bandwagon & talked tra$h?!?

    Be truthful now 😐

    We are no longer a serious people ~ When reality suddenly becomes non-optional

    https://www.thepullrequest.com/p/we-are-no-longer-a-serious-people

    #119911
    WES
    Participant

    One of the reasons I like being at the family island cottage so much is the balance between nature and the world of humans.

    #119912
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Redneck said

    The whole world is polarised to be fair, you all are just unable to accept that Russia and Putin are not perfect , it is like a cult.

    Nonsense. Only a week or so ago I said that I thought there were no good parties. I even suggested that Putin probably is a dictator as there do not seem to have been any realistic Russian elections (or even opponents) in recent years.

    You are again telling lies to further your point, it is not helpful to constructive conversation, but I don’t mind as you are not alone and after years of reading the internet, I am used to dismissing the lies and trying to understand the message. You have an irrational hatred for Russia, you obviously got it from an ex-partner or from overdosing on MSM TV. You are not alone, we have a number of people on this comment board with religious beliefs, once you skip the religious nonsense they still give us good input with valid points in other areas. For example, don’t ask John Day who to execute first, don’t ask AFKTT about AGW, don’t ask … we all have our weaknesses.

    #119914
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    ‘“I am just adding a little balance to a very one sided group who have very deep seated bias against the West and are blind to any faults on the other side.”

    Absolutely brilliant. People easily forget that they are being bombarded with one-dimensional echo chamber “news” 25 hours a day’

    I am still trying to figure out exactly what those two statements mean in combination. in fact, I’ve given up.

    Maybe it’s because I speak and use English as opposed to America.

    The Americans have a terrible habit of putting two negatives into one statement and confusing us non-Americans.

    ‘I can’t get no satisfaction’ does not mean I find it impossible to get no satisfaction = I am always satisfied.

    Apparently in American it means the opposite of what is said.

    ‘I could care less’ does not mean it is possible for me to care less than I do. Apparently it means the same as the English expression ‘I couldn’t care less’.

    “It ain’t no use crying about it’.

    There ain’t no way the Russians can win.

    One understand why the Russians find it so difficult to negotiate with Americans when they say the opposite of what they mean.

    ‘No movement of NATO eastwards’ in American therefore speak means ‘we will definitely do all we can to move NATO military forces eastwards’.

    When the Fed chairperson says ‘inflation is temporary’ what is actually means is that raging inflation (devaluation of fiat money) will be a semi-permanent feature of life from now on

    Here in NZ, the Scorpion has become an expert in reverse-talk. So when she said “Covid vaccines are safe and effective,” the clear message was that they are not at all safe and are ineffective in preventing airborne virus diseases from spreading through the population.

    NZ is going to tackle the burgeoning climate catastrophe by burning more coal to run electric cars and by converting natural gas into hydrogen that leaks past all but the most efficient seals. And has the lowest energy density of all known ‘fuels’.

    War is peace

    Freedom is slavery

    Ignorance is strength.

    I know. some believe that even those phrases do not convey their immediately obvious meanings, but let’s not go there today.

    #119916
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    People easily forget that they are being bombarded with one-dimensional echo chamber “news” 25 hours a day, and when someone says something that differs from this, they think they must parrot the 25 hour-a-day stuff to provide “balance”.

    Reminds me of the saying “What’s mine is mine, and half of what’s yours is mine.”

    #119917
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    I am powerless , Dr.D is powerless Raul is powerless , none of us as individuals or as groups can change a fuckin thing. All the words written here are just dust in the wind!

    Nonsense. As Chris Hedges says, hope must be invested in acts of resistance and civil disobedience. Even the smallest acts are of immense significance. Once we adopt the mindset that we are defeated, only then are we defeated.

    #119918
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Well, looks like Twitter is headed back into its old ways if AA’s article is correct (apoligies to those who will not read articles from a person the suthoritarian fact checkers label as a nazi) … https://www.unz.com/aanglin/this-elon-takeover-of-twitter-is-a-total-disaster-and-no-its-not-about-the-n-word/.

    The new globalist owner appears to be carrying water for his owners, nothing changes. You have to wonder why anyone trusts Musk, but there you go, people somehow think that this Twitter ego is going to fix the world. I have never had a Twitter account.

    #119951
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    @citizenx: agree, the chanting of kumbaya will not change the world as it has zero impact on The Haters. Only “The One that left us here” can save it. I’m just trying to do my part while I’m here – and save myself. Returning to “center” (a positive state/place in body/mind/heart) is part of my practice. Mantra, song, dance, art, nature are all tools.

    @VP/Gary: RE: LOVE. So does that include the “dehumanizers” too? Should we just think *GOOD* thoughts, pretending THEY don’t exist with ALL their cheat cards? No. No pretending. It’s hard to LOVE the haters/dehumanizers. I’m not there yet. You?

    I had a decent shot trying with my late husband. I couldn’t resist the brilliant engineer, handsome/older, bad-boy man. But it was always the undercurrent of childhood abuse and 2 tours in Vietnam that got him rolling from a dark place. In the 11 months of his dying at home (right here in the great room behind me, cancers everywhere) that I began to see the truth BEYOND his physical presence. You can LOVE that sweet light! There is this strange aspect to it tho, you know there is a part of themselves on auto-pilot (stuck in torture chambers of the mind), THEY CAN’T STOP. It’s like you see thru it and you are watching a picture show. Detached. These words come to mind: “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” This is not meant to be an excuse. It just is where some people are. You can forgive them, love them, let go of them, and keep your power.

    LOVE to All who visit here.

    #119996
    Redneck
    Participant

    To all at TAE.

    I must admit I am struggling a bit with my new found celebrity. Fame can be difficult too.
    I magine little ’ol Redneck being so much “on target” , that I get a headline page heralded by the editor himself and a fine refutation piece by the second in command of the ship , the Uber commentator and analyst , the famed Dr. D.
    I am honoured sir and your logic is impeccable and you know who you are and you look marvelous!

    Yes me !

    I would bet that I am the first sub to be so honoured. Is that right Raul? Have I set a new precedent here ? Did Deflationista break through with a headliner ? Did he/she/it? I want to know!
    Please respond in the comment section below.

    Could barely sleep last night trying to figure a way to monetise this situation. Am thinking maybe a doorstep interview with a national broadcaster , I will have to make it dark ‘cause that sells.
    I am thinking something like ,”Aged Tasmanian pensioner with early onset dementia cyber bullied by Doctor and human aid organiser.
    The two are believed to be behind the dark online far right white supremist cult known as TAE.
    “In an emotional plea from his doorstep this morning…….was cyber bullied by the cult leaders….suffering PSD…….emotional damage.. is establishing go fund me page to help pay for a young and attractive mental heath support worker to be his live in psychological help thingy……
    That’s the ticket!
    Wait , Sixty minutes maybe? Once the story has gotten some air, or should I just approach them directly with an exclusive. I will need a publicist and a spokesthingy too.
    What a lifechanger this has turned out to be , thank you all so much!

    LLOYDE
    G’day mate, I cannot reveal my location as I am sheltering in place at a secret location pending the release of my expose of the cyber bullies at TAE.
    I advise you to switch your computoriser off and then hit it several times really hard with the biggest hammer you have at hand , it might be your last chance to survive , the interknob is a very dangerous place, keep track of 60 mins and channel nine national news for future updates.
    I heard about the snow on the mountain yesterday , good ‘ol Queeny , I remember it well . I spent some time down the hole there. It used to be a hard drinking little town but I hear the yuppies have taken over since the mine closed. You aren’t one of them are you?
    They have a fuckin art gallery now!
    Things have changed sice the King river stopped flowing upside down. Throw another log of Huon on the fire mate , stay warm now .

    Aspanaz
    “I even suggested that Putin probably is a dictator as there do not seem to have been any realistic Russian elections (or even opponents) in recent years.”
    Musta missed that bit , it’s a wonder you were not sacrificed for that onslaught , what are you an atheist or something?

    AFKNT
    ‘“I am just adding a little balance to a very one sided group who have very deep seated bias against the West and are blind to any faults on the other side.”
    “I am still trying to figure out exactly what those two statements mean in combination. in fact, I’ve given up.”

    I am highly edumacated ya know. The rest is pretty good.

    BOOGALOO
    “As Chris Hedges says, hope must be invested in acts of resistance and civil disobedience. Even the smallest acts are of immense significance. Once we adopt the mindset that we are defeated, only then are we defeated.”
    Rhetoric dude retoric , give me one example of your wrings or speakings that brought the West of the left to it’s knees.
    Not to go all personal on Hedges but he has ceased to be of any significance for many years, just another burnt out shell of a commie sympathiser struggling to make a dollar droning on in his sixties style of gobbly gook.

    Suzy
    “Only “The One that left us here” can save it. I’m just trying to do my part while I’m here – and save myself. Returning to “center” (a positive state/place in body/mind/heart) is part of my practice. Mantra, song, dance, art, nature are all tools.
    Not to put too fine a point on it but it is really all about “you”, ain’t it?
    Nothing wrong with that , spend some time investigatin this feelin , this knowing ,”I am”. What is that centre you refer to? Ten words only thank you.

    NEWSFLASH , deep cover Tasmanian agent who has been linked to Q-anon has been doxed for inciting the US to create a nuclear bombing shield on Northern Australian shores.See TAE for details.
    I did that.

    US nuclear-capable B-52 bombers head to Australia as China slams move

    Bad news for all Tae folk . I have figured out a much faster and efficient way to make comments! Yes that means I can be more interactive with you all!
    If I do disappear though , like Delfationista , you know who took the kill shot.
    Poor Deflationista , her body was never found you know.

    Don’t take yourselves too seriously folks, it is another beautiful day here down under. Cool Antarctic sou’wester with sun showers.

    #120043
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    Redneck: “Not to put too fine a point on it but it is really all about “you”, ain’t it?
    Nothing wrong with that , spend some time investigatin this feelin , this knowing ,”I am”. What is that centre you refer to? Ten words only thank you.”

    Yes, worth clarifying. Save myself = the responsibility for getting my own house in order using the wisdom I have gathered being human and living life to the fullest (throughout my lifetime).

    I find your request for 10 words to be harsh – as no one else has been asked to limit their response. However the request is worthy. Can I do it in 10 words so that someone could easily understand and remember? The centre/center is: the peace of being present and absorbed in the moment. That which I am is revealed.

    I hope the Suzy from your past was a great gal next door.

    LOVE to our neighbors.

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