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      I don’t know anything more than anyone else does, outside of the decision makers’ circle, about the reasoning behind the Tomahawk missile attac
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    #33559
    John Day
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    Moon of Alabama has the story well encapsulated. Here are excerpts.
    (I feel terrible about this neocon resurgence of power at all levels in my country. We are so easily mind-controlled.)
    The U.S. airstrike delivers a message to al-Qaeda. Whenever under military pressure al-Qaeda can now stage or fake a “chemical attack” and the U.S. will act to destroy its enemy, the Syrian government. Acts as the one last night are then direct military support by the U.S. on al-Qaeda’s request… It severely damaged the main support base for Syria’s fight against the Islamic State in eastern Syria. The event will possibly lead to a much larger war… A similar scheme had earlier been established on the Golan heights. Al-Qaeda, fighting against Syrian government positions, would launch a mortar round that would land within Israeli controlled territory. Israel would then launch artillery strikes against Syrian government positions because “the Syrian government is responsible for what happens in the area”. Al-Qaeda then used the battle field advantage created by the Israeli strike…
    [Regarding gas-attack 4/4/17] For a release incident of powerful chemical weapons the casualty numbers were low, lower than the casualty numbers of recent conventional U.S. air strikes in Syria and Iraq. Despite that fact a huge international media attack wave, seemingly prepared in advance, against the Syrian government was released…
    U.S. president Trump “responded” to the incident by ordering the launch of 59 cruise missiles on the Syrian military airport Al Syairat (vid). The cruise missiles were launched from sea in a volley designed to overwhelm air defenses. According to the Syrian and Russian military only 23 cruise missiles reached the airport. The others were shut down or failed. According to the Syrian and Russian military only 23 cruise missiles reached the airport. The others were shut down or failed. Six Syrian soldiers were Killed, nine civilians in a nearby village were killed or wounded and nine Syrian jets were destroyed. The airport infrastructure was severely damaged.
    The Syrian and Russian governments had been warned before the strikes hit and evacuated most men and critical equipment. (Was the warning part of a deal?) The air attack coincided with an Islamic State ground attack east of the airport.
    The Trump presidency had been held hostage by unfounded allegation of “Russian interference” in the U.S. elections in support of the Trump candidacy. The air strikes on Syria might have been the ransom that was demanded for the release of the hostage. His opponents are now gushing about him…
    Trump is the third U.S. president in a row who promised less belligerence during his campaign only to deliver more after the election.
    Open U.S.-Russian cooperation in Syria will now cease.
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/syria-us-creates-new-air-support-request-scheme-for-al-qaeda.html#more
    On April 3rd, 2017, an anti-Assad journalist tweeted that the next day he would be launching a media campaign to cover airstrikes on the Hama countryside, including the use of chemical weapons. It is not clear how the reporter was able to know that chemical weapons would be used an entire day before the attacks occurred.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-06/evidence-calls-western-narrative-about-syrian-chemical-incident-question
    Neocons are creating Trump-their-chump, by getting rid of all those who resist them in the halls of power.
    It’s just a little delay. Donald can be Hillary.
    “The two sides: The Bannonites believe the liberals staged a coup and will turn Trump into a conventional squish who betrays the very voters who brought him to power. The Jared wing thinks the Bannonites are clinically nuts.
    Killing Bannon won’t be easy: His staunchest ally is one of Trump’s closest confidants — Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Kellyanne Conway will go to the mat for him, as will policy advisor Stephen Miller. He’s also built strong relationships with other cabinet secretaries including Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross and Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin. In the end, though, family matters most and all but dad are done with Bannon and his politics.”
    https://www.axios.com/steve-bannon-to-associates-i-love-a-gunfight-2347592148.html
    The Washington Establishment has reasserted control. First Flynn and now Bannon. All that are left in the Trump administration are the Zionists and the crazed generals who want war with Russia, China, Iran, Syria, and North Korea… The Syrian conflict is set to be reopened. That is the point of the chemical attack blamed by Washington on Syria despite the absence of any evidence. It is completely obvious that the chemical attack is a Washington orchestrated event… The removal of Assad allows Washington to impose another Washington puppet on Muslim peoples, to remove another Arab government with an independent policy from Washington, to remove another government that is opposed to Israel’s theft of Palestine, and for Exxon’s Tillerson and the neoconservative hegemonists to cut Russian natural gas off from Europe with a US controlled gas pipeline from Qatar to Europe via Syria.

    Trump Has Surrendered. Will Putin Be The Next To Surrender?


    Responding to Trump’s unexpected military attack on Syria in which 59 cruise missiles were launched (of which only 23 allegedly hit their target), Russian President Vladimir Putin “regards the strikes as aggression against a sovereign nation,” his spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, noting that the president believes the strikes were carried out “in violation of international law, and also under an invented pretext.” The Kremlin spokesman insisted that “the Syrian army doesn’t have chemical weapons,” saying this had been “observed and confirmed by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, a special UN unit.” “This step deals significant damage to US-Russian ties, which are already in a deplorable state,” Peskov said and added that the US has been ignoring the use of chemical weapons by terrorists and this is dramatically aggravating the situation, in Putin’s opinion… Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov said the US missile attack on a Syrian airbase is an act of aggression under a far-fetched pretext and is reminiscent of the 2003 invasion of Iraq… “It is regrettable that all these causes do more harm to the already damaged relations between Russia and the United States. Hope remains that these provocations will not entail irreversible effects.” .. Moscow suspended its memorandum of understanding on flight safety in Syria with the US following the missile strike, calling the attack “a demonstration of force.” The Russian military has supported the Syrian government’s version of the events in Idlib, saying that Damascus attacked an arms depot where chemical weapons had been stockpiled by Islamic State and Al-Nusra Front militants…
    “Without bothering to investigate anything, the US went forward with a demonstration of force, a military confrontation with a country that is fighting international terrorism,” the Foreign Ministry’s statement reads. “Obviously, the cruise missile attack was prepared beforehand. Any expert can tell that the decision to strike was made in Washington before the events in Idlib, which were used as a pretext for a demonstration.” https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-07/putin-responds-syria-strikes-cripple-us-russia-relations-deploys-cruise-missile-frig
    Damage from US strike was less than “militarily efficient” for the very high expense of 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles. Pictures and details, here:
    “Russia says Syrian air defense systems will be bolstered after 6 jets and the radar system was destroyed in the airstrike. 4 Syrian military are reported dead and 2 missing after strike.”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-07/first-images-aftermath-inefficient-us-missile-strikes-emerge
    Last night the Russians canceled the memorandum of understanding they had with the U.S. which made them share information with us on flights and locations of their attacks on the CIA’s moderate terrorists. Today they are carpet bombing al Qaeda and the other “moderates” in Idlib… When they stopped sharing information with the U.S. they prevented the Pentagon from warning the terrorists about impending Russian airstrikes.
    Russia is Currently Bombing the Shit Out of The CIA’s “moderate” al Qaeda Terrorists in Idlib

    #33561
    Dr. Diablo
    Participant

    So if 59 missiles were shot, 36 were shut off in flight, and 4 were killed with little airstrip damage because “Any expert can tell that the decision to strike was made in Washington before the events” and Russia and thus Syria were informed hours before in order to completely and safely evacuate, then what really happened?

    A. 59 obsolete missiles from 1975 were disposed of over the ocean.
    B. No real military damage was sustained by Syria or Russia, nor did Isis advance though forewarned. (N.B.)
    C. “they stopped sharing information with the U.S. they prevented the Pentagon from warning the terrorists”
    D. Isis is being carpet bombed and no one can cry collateral damage.
    E. Russia now has justification to send Syria a new Russian radar and/or S400 missile system to protect center/south Syria.
    F. The Neocons pull a quid pro quo and ally with DJT or at least can no longer while he’s in the middle of a massive investigation/indictment of D.C. insiders, viz. them.
    G. Donald is no longer “allied with/agent of the Russians” so that narrative dies and he can talk to/negotiate with Russia freely.
    H. The Neocons get everything they asked for, which will only hasten their public demise tactically and popularly. When this goes astray in the U.N. resolution, or the failed war, everyone will blame the U.S. for bombing too much, instead of being too soft.
    I. As the Neocons — who are equally D. and R. — are satisfied the war-drums are back on track and DJT is under control, they reduce pressure and allow the required appointments to go through before the economy collapses from the Fed’s purposeful rate hikes.
    J. As a response to continuing U.S. attacks, Russia and China pull the plug on the US$. This can now be blamed on war and overreach, and obeying the Neocons against the will of the people.

    Of course this could be a plan or this could be stupidity, your choice, but it certainly seems odd to send 60 Alzheimer missiles, 20 of which land, with 4 killed, exclusively as a political message, in order to, what exactly? Impress Xi that none of our hardware works? That we’re tactical idiots? That DJT is now prosecuting the Obama war by warning everyone and hitting nothing? Yes, that would be stupid. Your choice. I don’t think anyone knows at this point. But for the moment let’s look at the real consequences and not bother with intent. Qui bono?

    #33562
    huberthoran
    Participant

    Why on earth would one consider North Korea the greatest threat to America?

    North Korea has 25 million people incapable of surviving in a 21st Century society. Seoul and Beijing are legitimately terrified of what they’d have to deal with if the Pyongyang regime collapsed. North Korea has had military programs for decades in order to ensure maximum leverage over Seoul and Beijing to provide the subsidies needed to keep the regime in power and to prevent the DPRK from collapsing into an ugly mess. Any “solution” to the “North Korean problem” would require agreement between Seoul and Beijing on how to feed those 25 million people and the trillions of dollars needed to somehow integrate them into the modern economic world. If they had a plan, Tokyo and Washington would undoubtedly help, but they’ve had decades to think up a plan and (probably correctly) recognize this is a problem that makes Syria and Iraq look like child’s play.

    #33564
    John Day
    Participant

    @ Dr Diablo
    You’re just trying to cheer me up…

    #33566
    Nassim
    Participant

    I wish Diablo were correct, but I prefer Occam’s Razor.

    You can see the Deep State gradually increasing the pressure on Russia by:

    1- The “accidental” attack by the US, Danish and Australian air forces against the Syrian army’s encircled positions at Deir al-Zour – synchronised with an attack by ISIS which failed to dislodge them

    2- The shooting down of the Russian plane by Turkey (NATO)

    3- The constant media frenzy about Russia

    4- The assassination of a number of Russian diplomats

    5- The bomb attack on the metro of Saint Petersburg

    6- The attack by the Israelis on the Mezzeh Military Airport (Damascus)

    7- The use of cruise missiles by the US Navy on the Shayrat Military Airport in rural east Homs – synchronised with an attack by al Qaeda.

    It is clear to me that it is a matter of time before the Russians sink a US Navy ship or shoot down some planes. They have been extremely patient as they know that they are dealing with idiots. They know that the longer they delay their retaliation, the better prepared they will be and the weaker and more divided the West will be.

    I note that the Australian idiot-in-chief – Malcolm Turnbull – did not waste a moment to congratulate the USA

    ustralia supports US action against Syrian airfield, says Malcolm Turnbull

    #33580
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    huberthoran
    Why on earth would one consider North Korea the greatest threat to America?

    Very good question…
    It’s a pattern of propagandic bullshit, propagated by the MIC to keep the weapons in production.
    The hegemon must prevail even if it destroys human life on the planet.
    I have long since given up on U.S. MSM and government posessing any factual news about anything.

    #33650
    Levantine
    Participant

    – Why on earth would one consider North Korea the greatest threat to America?

    Because Korea is officially in a state of war; it is a place where the Cold War continues. It is a place of of close interaction between all the three the major powers of today. More than any other place in the world, the Korean peninsula harbors a high risk of escalation into WW3.

    “North Korea has 25 million people incapable of surviving in a 21st Century society. ”

    North Korea has achieved virtual self-sufficiency in food production since the nineties famines. Moreover, the life of ordinary Koreans is constantly improving. North Koreans are well versed in use of computers, and all other kinds of Western life are creeping in. The real challenge of North Korea is the power layer bellow the head of state. The head of state is easy to deal with, he was given a lot all his life, so many kings and dictators have given power of their own volition because they are frustrated. Not so parasitic pigs that are both greedy and stupid.

    Sources: David Kang, Aram Pan, Konstantin Asmolov, professionals from Europe who have lived there ….

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