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“But the C.D.C. has been routinely collecting information since the Covid vaccines were first rolled out last year, according to a federal official familiar with the effort. The agency has been reluctant to make those figures public, the official said, because they might be misinterpreted as the vaccines being ineffective.” New York Times
This sums the whole discussion. Public health agencies do not publish the information if its against their narrative. So, they have the data, which show that ‘the vaccines’ are ineffective, and they don’t publish the data, because if they did, people would think ineffective ‘vaccines’ vaccines are ineffective. Usage of the word misinterpret here is nice, is the dictionary meaning for the word misinterpret as follows: ‘to make conclusions which are against the official narrative, even if the conclusion is right’ ?
Of course we could start debating what is meant by ineffective, but there’s no point, I think ineffective is too positive term here, should use term like useless.
Most propably its same with the side effects. They have the data. They know. I might want to use poker terms here, they are pot committed on lies.
Deflat. Thanks for long reply. I am of course aware these things have been happening always. The question is do they happen more often these days. And, anecdotally it really seems to be so. And my selection of words was intentional: “seems to be leading cause of nasty coincidences”. Seems to be. Hard thing about this subject is, we are surrounded with so much disinformation, and if it were only from random internet sites, it would be manageable. But since the official government data about this subject seems to follow the old GIGO (garbage in garbage out) model from the information sciences, we will never have the answers. This is mostly about beliefs, who believes this and who believes that. One can always find anecdotal tidbits which seemingly support the opinion he/she wants to support. I am not saying I know anything about this. I just smell heavy odour of the bullshit in the medias.
I have given up on this subject. I have my beliefs, you have yours, everyone have their own, and they will not be unified, since we dont have the facts. Signal to noise ratio on this subject is too low.
By the way, this campaign of the past year, of the media trying to normalize the heart problems of young people and even children has been really sad. Quite often seeing these articles that because of this and that and you name if, heart problems of young people are happening more often.
The reasons listed on those articles are mostly hilarious, but some of them may be real. And Deflat, so that you dont get me wrong. I am not saying that all the heart problems in the world are caused by ‘the vaccine’. There is other reasons too.
Deflat. Are you trying to make a point, that if someones has a history of heart problems, its just OK that ‘the vaccine’ makes those problems worse? Or what are you trying to prove with your Aguero links?
Seldomly we see purely black and white things in this world, most health problems may have many causes, although ‘the vaccine’ seems to be the leading cause of nasty coincidences these days. I really have no way to prove that any of these heart problems have been caused by ‘the vaccine’, or that ‘the vaccine’ has any part on them, but the odds are quite high, that it really has. Mountains of anecdotal evidence are not a proof, but one has to be intentionally blind to not see them. And this intentional blindness is a proven fact (scientific community refusing to research).
But mostly I think its very good that someone tries to bring different opinions into TAE, helps with the confirmation bias, at least somewhat.
Good evening. Long time lurker here, actually from the beginning. But first time posting for this:
1. Is the narrative that fully 80% of the population is not really susceptible to the virus still around, or is that “false news” from “our side?” The only real justification I ever saw for this was the result of how many on the ship Diamond Princess came down with Covid.
We have this: “Cross-reactive SARS-CoV-2 peptides revealed pre-existing T cell responses in 81% of unexposed individuals and validated similarity with common cold coronaviruses, providing a functional basis for heterologous immunity in SARS-CoV-2 infection. ”
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