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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50861
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    H–E-L-L-O
    IS THERE ANYBODY HERE?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50860
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    http://www.unz.com/scohen/unasked-questions-about-us-ukrainian-relations/
    Unasked Questions About US-Ukrainian Relations
    Is US national security being trumped by loathing for Trump?
    Stephen F. Cohen • October 3, 2019

    https://www.thenation.com/article/ukraine-elections-2016/
    The Full Scope of Ukraine’s Impact on the 2016 Election Has Yet to Be Examined
    Vulnerabilities in US election security need attention, and Ukraine’s 2016 impact could be instructive.
    By Lev Golinkin
    September 24, 2019

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50859
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    I don’t know if anyone is interested in the comments that I put up concerning the Ukraine.
    It’s all news to me.
    You can read the snippets that I put up and decide if there is truth that will change your views of the elites.

    ( for some reason, the Debt Rattle, for today, October 27 2019, has not appeared)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50858
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    OLD NEW – IGNORED BY THE WEST
    by Editor – Thursday, February 19th, 2015
    “It is possible,” Roshansky concludes, “that the realignment of forces in Ukrainian politics could unleash yet another devastating tidal wave of raider attacks under the guise of restitution of assets stolen by the previous government. It is worth recalling that the oligarchs have hardly disappeared from Ukraine, and some are in positions of much enhanced political power”.
    That’s code for Kolomoisky – and Burisma. Rojansky’s conclusion is a direct appeal for the US Government to stop Kolomoisky because “corporate raiding undermines U.S. policy objectives in addition to deterring potentially profitable U.S. investments in Ukraine.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50857
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    https://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/default/files/Corporate%20Raiding%20in%20Ukraine_0.pdf
    Matthew A. Rojansky is Director of the Kennan Institute at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, Ronald Reagan Building and International Trade Center, One Woodrow Wilson Plaza, 1300 Pennsylvania Ave, NW, Washington, DC

    Corporate raiding in Ukraine:
    Abstract: Corporate raiding in Ukraine is a widely discussed and reported problem that severely damages investment and economic development, prospects for European integration, and the welfare of ordinary people. Yet the phenomenon of raiding itself is only poorly understood, often either dismissed as inseparable from the country’s broader problem of endemic corruption, or imputed to powerful and shadowy raiders thought to be immune from defensive measures by private businesses. The author’s field research in Ukraine sheds light on the history, causes and methodologies of raiding, as well as on the costs and consequences of raiding for Ukraine’s further development.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50856
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    THE HUNT FOR BURISMA, PART II — WHAT ROLE FOR IGOR KOLOMOISKY, WHAT LONDON MISSED, WHAT WASHINGTON DOESN’T WANT TO SEE


    By John Helmer, Moscow
    The UK Serious Fraud Office (SFO) and the Central Criminal Court have reported that Nikolai Zlochevsky, a Ukrainian businessman and twice the minister of state for oil and gas licences, is the controlling shareholder of the Ukrainian gas producer Burisma. So what are employees of Igor Kolomoisky, warlord of Dniepropetrovsk and controller of the Privatbank Group, doing as the shareholder representatives on the Burisma board?
    Kolomoisky isn’t the accommodating, retiring, passive sort, say sources who work with him. Zlochevsky has the more bending character of the two, the sources claim. So is Burisma their cooperative and joint venture, or is Zlochevsky Kolomoisky’s front-man, just as others were for Zlochevsky in the ten-year history of Burisma’s acquisition of valuable oil and gas prospects.
    Zlochevsky, now 48, headed the Ukrainian State Committee for Resources between 2003 and 2005. He then served in the Verkhovna Rada where he presided over legislation regulating resource licences. Between 2010 and 2012 he was the Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources. He then became Deputy Secretary of then President Victor Yanukovich’s National Security Council.
    During the years he was a state official, if he acquired business assets, especially from licensing awards he was able to direct or influence in his official capacity, Zlochevsky was obliged to act indirectly. The transaction records of the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) confirm that in 2009 Zlochevsky (below, right) and a partner, Nikolai Lisin (left), were the beneficial shareholders at the receiving end of a chain in which Millington Solutions and Sunrise Energy Resources sold title to two Ukrainian gasfields, Pari and Esko Pivnich.
    Sunrise Energy Resources was a Delaware state company; Millington Solutions was a short-lived UK front, registered at an address on Regent Street, London, where the most active line of business was escort sex. Signing for Sunrise was its purported chief executive, Konstantin Tsiryulnikov; signing for Millington was Yevgeny Kozlov.
    As their names suggest, these two are of Russian origin, with Soviet backgrounds. In the history of Burisma and its Ukrainian gasfields, they end up in Canada. Here is Tsiryulikov today and this appears to be Kozlov, an Ottawa lawyer.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50855
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    LAWYERS AND ACCOUNTANTS ARE NEEDED FOR THESE KINDS OF OPERATIONS

    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/874792/000102189005000003/sunrise14f.htm
    General
    U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
    WASHINGTON, D.C. 20549

    SCHEDULE 14F-1

    INFORMATION STATEMENT PURSUANT TO SECTION 14(f)
    OF THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934
    AND RULE 14f-1 THEREUNDER
    Commission File Number 1-11248
    SUNRISE ENERGY RESOURCES, INC.
    5353 Memorial Drive, Suite 4012
    Houston, Texas 77007

    This Information Statement is being delivered on or after January 6, 2004 to the holders of shares of common stock, par value $0.001 of Sunrise Energy Resources, Inc., a Delaware corporation (the “Company”). You are receiving this Information Statement in connection with a change of control and the appointment of new members to the Company’s Board of Directors which is expected to take place within ten days of the date this statement is filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission in accordance with Rule 14f-1.
    Effective October 4, 2004, the Company and certain of its shareholders entered into a Stock Purchase Agreement and Plan of Reorganization (the “Agreement”) with the shareholders of Esko Pivnich (“EP”), an oil and gas production and development company incorporated and operating in the Republic of Ukraine, to acquire all of the outstanding shares of EP.

    Directors and Executive Officers
    Konstantin Tsiryulnikov 26 YRS LD Chairman of the Board, Principal Financial
    Konstantin Tsiryulnikov. Mr. Tsiryulnikov is president of Odessa Consulting (Canada), and has extensive experience in international business relating to the former Soviet Union countries, concentrating in the Oil and Gas industry. Mr. Tsiryulnikov also serves as the manager of international relations for the L.Z. Group (Canada).
    Mr. Tsiryulnikov holds an International Business Certificate from the Kyiv Financial Institute and a B.S. degree from the University of Toronto.
    Mr. Tsiryulnikov is the son of Eduard Tsiryulnikov, Halton Impex Corp.‘s sole shareholder. As provided below, Halton Impex is a privately owned company, which will own 65% of the issued shares of the Company as part of the Transaction.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50854
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    ARE ALL OF THESE REPORTERS MAKING UP ALL OF THESE STRORIES!!
    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-plundering-of-ukraine/

    The Plundering of Ukraine by Corrupt American Democrats
    A talk with Oleg Tsarev reveals the alleged identity of the “Trump/Ukraine Whistleblower”
    Israel Shamir • October 25, 2019

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50851
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    YOU DECIDE WHERE IS THE TRUTH AND IF IT MATTERS

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Solomon_(political_commentator)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50850
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    SUMMARY
    MONEY CAN BUY THE BEST LAWYERS AND THE BEST ACOUNTANTS.

    by L Todd Wood October 26, 20190131

    Main Home


    CD Media has been on the ground for almost a decade building deep sourcing relationships in Ukraine. Kyiv is famous for its organized crime and corruption. What is new in the last few years is the enabling and even participation in this corruption by agencies of the U.S. government, primarily the Department of State.
    We began a serious of articles last week that have started to highlight was is actually going on in the country regarding this organized crime cabal, and it is very scary and shocking.
    What is even more shocking however, is the Leftist media wants nothing to do with this obvious evidence of pay-for-play and abuse of power by American officials.
    The only want to…all together now… ‘Get Rudy!’ (Rudy Giuliani, the President’s lawyer)
    With a similar personal destruction campaign going on against former The Hill reporter John Solomon, who also investigated and broke news on the abuses at the U.S. embassy in Kyiv, this modus operandi of the Deep State press is in plain view for all to see.
    Below is a sampling of our recent reporting that 95% of the press won’t even acknowledge. We will be releasing more information shortly.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50847
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    Tell me that I misunderstood. Its the working class that is demanding change.
    (Its not the freeloaders heheheh the freeloaders are the elites)

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-lebanon-protests-idUSKBN1X50AA
    Army and security commanders met to plan ways to re-open main arteries to get traffic flowing again while “safeguarding the safety of protesters”, the military said in a statement. But people have closed routes with barriers, sit-ins and mass gatherings demanding the government resign.
    Lebanon has been swept by 10 days of protests against a political class accused of corruption, mismanagement of state finances and pushing the country toward an economic collapse unseen since the 1975-90 civil war.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50845
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    ” …. this is politics to hide 100,000 felonies ….”
    I like that sentence.
    However, let’s be more specific.

    The worst felons are the elites. Yes, I mean those in power and those with money.
    The true elites have no politics.

    You would be wrong to blame the capitalist, the socialist or anything else but self serving vampires.

    Those elites have enough money to surround themselves with egoistic self serving lawyers and accountants who can make sure that it is legal to charge exorbitant fees for consultation, or for anything that the elites want to do and not go to jail.
    Remember …..
    “THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF WRONG DOING”.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 25 2019 #50834
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    Exemplary picture is an example of nature without man in it. I don’t see a lot of food there. Living very close to certain death unless you do everything exactly right. There is also less biodiversity than an interim space, e.g., a forest cleared by man.

    Its also my impression.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperate_rainforest#Pacific_temperate_rain_forests
    Annual precipitation over 140 cm (55 in)
    Mean annual temperature is between 4 and 12 °C (39 and 54 °F).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old-growth_forest
    In British Columbia’s coastal rainforests, old growth is defined as trees more than 250 years, with some trees reaching more than 1,000 years of age
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    The use of the word “semantics” got me looking into definitions of words
    The definition of semantic left me feeling like an outcast.
    I’m not pointing fingers…..
    If the hat fits ….

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitism

    Elitism is the belief or attitude that individuals who form an elite—a select group of people with an intrinsic quality, high intellect, wealth, special skills, or experience—are more likely to be constructive to society as a whole, and therefore deserve influence or authority greater than that of others.[1] The term elitism may be used to describe a situation in which power is concentrated in the hands of a limited number of people.

    https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/riffraff

    Synonyms for riffraff commonality commoners gang gathering mob outcast ring scum

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism

    Populism refers to a range of political stances that emphasise the idea of “the people” and often juxtapose this group against “the elite”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snob

    Snob is a pejorative term for a person who believes there is a correlation between social status and human worth.[1] Snob also refers to a person who feels superiority over those from lower social classes, education levels, or other social areas.
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    Remember
    Biden said,
    There is no proof of wrong doing”
    This is a perfect example of our social/economic systems that has been set up by the lawyers and the accountants. Its often referred to as Capitalism. (an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit,)

    BREAKING: Corrupt US Embassy In Kyiv Forces Ukrainian General Prosecutor To Drop Burisma, Biden Investigations


    BREAKING: Corrupt US Embassy In Kyiv Forces Ukrainian General Prosecutor To Drop Burisma, Biden Investigations
    by L Todd WoodOctober 24, 2019

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 24 2019 #50809
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    BREAKING: Corrupt US Embassy In Kyiv Forces Ukrainian General Prosecutor To Drop Burisma, Biden Investigations
    by L Todd WoodOctober 24, 2019

    BREAKING: Corrupt US Embassy In Kyiv Forces Ukrainian General Prosecutor To Drop Burisma, Biden Investigations

    Sources tell CD Media the General Prosecution Office in Ukraine has been seized by George Soros-controlled officials. In the current week, any prosecution will end in favor of Soros, and Soros-connected oligarch Victor Pinchuk. Source said to expect closure of Burisma cases and closure of 9 investigative cases by new General Prosecutor Ryaboshapka and other new prosecutors hired within the last two weeks.
    CD Media reported on over 130 open cases of IMF aid fraud currently being investigated by these prosecutors.
    Our source described how the U.S. Embassy controls NABU.
    “The head of NABU, Artem Sytnik, said there is no investigation of Burisma. The U.S. Embassy stopped NABU. This week they got control of Gen Prosecutors’ Office. SAP [Special Prosecutor] Kholodnitsky Nazar, said there are no cases on Burisma and Biden in SAP.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 24 2019 #50808
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    Two more stories about the Ukraine/Biden connection (Translated)

    Dem Favorite Ukrainian ‘Victim’ Buys $30M Flat In London On Civil Servant Salary…What?

    The timing could not be better. Two days after CD Media highlighted the Soros/Democratic Party machine’s efforts to whitewash the reputation of corrupt former Ukrainian central bank chief Valeriya Gontareva, the Ukrainian local press reports a knockout development.

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    Detained Corrupt Poroshenko Accomplice Pays What Is Needed To Escape Ukraine

    Today we are reporting that Gladkovsky has apparently paid a large bail, and an unknown amount of bribes, in order to escape detention and has most likely already left the country, following Poroshenko and Valeria Gontareva, former head of the National Bank of Ukraine who both reportedly are in London.
    You can read the local press reports here.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 24 2019 #50802
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    I found a report that might interest everyone here. (see …. there are WikiLeaks reporters everywhere on the web)

    Jordan’s King Abdullah Rejects Pelosi and Schiff By Endorsing Trump Withdrawal From Syria

    Their first stop was Jordan, where both Pelosi and Schiff tried to get the King of Jordan to condemn President Trump’s decision to pull out of Syria, but they didn’t succeed. Instead, King Abdullah reinforced how important it is to maintain Syrian borders. According to the Jordan News Agency:

    “Their first stop was Jordan, where both Pelosi and Schiff tried to get the King of Jordan to condemn President Trump’s decision to pull out of Syria, but they didn’t succeed. Instead, King Abdullah reinforced how important it is to maintain Syrian borders. According to the Jordan News Agency:”

    Multiple sources tell us that Pelosi and Schiff were actually discussing and negotiating foreign policy. What qualifies them to undermine our administration’s foreign policy?

    As the Ukrainian quid pro quo is collapsing, Pelosi and Schiff are actually making quid pro quo deals to the King to find quid pro quo? Isn’t this a violation of the Logan Act? We have been told that the conversations are transcribed. Pelosi and Schiff promising two-state legislation to King Abdullah in exchange for denouncing President Trump’s Middle Eastern policy and actions.
    Failing to get the King of Jordan to give them the sound bites and statements they had hoped for, they hopped on the plane and went to Afghanistan to meet with the President of Afghanistan and representatives of the Taliban.
    This failed quid pro quo by Pelosi and Schiff cost taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    Afghanistan: Pelosi Impairs U.S. Foreign Policy In a Clear Act Of Mutiny

    Pelosi and Schiff traveled to Afghanistan to meet with Taliban leaders and President Ghani after they failed to get the King of Jordan to accept their quid pro quo offer. The Pelosi crew gallivanting this past weekend was a waste of taxpayer dollars and served no purpose other than to undermine our president, our nation, our foreign policy, and manifest a cloud of uncertainty with their brazen efforts to pose as the ones in power.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 24 2019 #50800
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    Democratic lawmakers hope to complete their impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump by year’s end and are coalescing around two articles of impeachment – abuse of power and obstruction,

    Yep!
    We all noticed how all of the previous reasons for impeachment have ended up disappearing.
    The democrats are doing a great job of keeping Trump’s name in the news
    ——
    Pulling on one thread/line, (Rembrandt van Rijn Self portrait with Saskia 1636 ) will not undo the picture

    in reply to: Assange Is The Only One To Abide By The Law #50789
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    Another example of carrying the torch.

    Its all legal stealing. Its lawless posing as the law
    Remember what Biden said.
    There is no proof of wrong doing.

    US troops are staying in Syria to ‘keep the oil’ – and have already killed hundreds over it


    Hundreds of American soldiers are remaining in Syria to occupy its oil reserves and block the Syrian government from revenue needed for reconstruction. Trump said openly, “We want to keep the oil.”
    By Ben Norton

    in reply to: Assange Is The Only One To Abide By The Law #50788
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    ” He doesn’t fight the law, he fights the lawless posing as the law.”

    Journalism is the production and distribution of reports on recent events. The word journalism applies to the occupation, as well as citizen journalists using methods of gathering information and using literary techniques. Journalistic media include print, television, radio, Internet, and, in the past, newsreels.

    The last thing that those in power want is to have the internet filled with journalist who are whistleblowers.
    Therefore, Assange is being used as an example to dissuade others.
    Other journalist have already picked up the baton.
    For example, TAE has been picking up the info from many journalist and passing it on.

    Pelosi’s Son And Ukraine Fraud: How Deep Is This Rabbit Hole? A: Deeper Than MSM Says

    Pelosi’s Son And Ukraine Fraud: How Deep Is This Rabbit Hole? A: Deeper Than MSM Says
    by Court Anderson October 4, 2019

    Its easy to find ways of self dealing when you have set up dummy organization to receive the money that you authorize as a highly placed gov. official.
    eg.: “transaction fees”, “administration costs”, “consulting fees”
    Talk to any accountant or any lawyer to learn how to set up any legal scam.

    Its all legal stealing. Its lawless posing as the law
    Remember what Biden said.
    There is no proof of wrong doing.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 22 2019 #50776
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    Update:
    The Deep State Washing Of Corrupt Former Ukrainian Central Bank Chief’s Reputation To Hide Poroshenko Corruption
    by L Todd Wood October 22, 2019

    CD Media will soon be releasing more detailed information on multiple fraud schemes allegedly run by Gontareva while in charge of NBU, obtained via leaks from the Ukrainian General Prosecutor’s Office, who as we reported earlier, has issued multiple requests for her to testify in person, which she has refused.

    (I include the name of the author so you can do a fact check on the source)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 22 2019 #50771
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    I’m not the FBI, however, I can think of many way to make you lie, by omission and to make you slant your testimony to follow the desired script.
    Preservation of your way of life for you and your loved ones will make you lie.

    Leaked document to the Washington Post

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/diplomat-who-raised-alarm-about-withholding-aid-to-ukraine-testifies-in-impeachment-probe/2019/10/22/086fb850-f436-11e9-8cf0-4cc99f74d127_story.html

    U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Biden’s, 2016 election

    By
    Rachael Bade, Anne Gearan, Karoun Demirjian and John Wagner
    Oct. 22, 2019 at 1:13 p.m. PDT

    In a 15-page opening statement, obtained by The Washington Post, Taylor stood by his characterization that it was “crazy” to make the assistance contingent on investigations he found troubling.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/opening-statement-of-ambassador-william-b-taylor/6b3a6edf-f976-4081-ba7f-bce45468a3ff/
    Opening statement of Ambassador William B. Taylor
    Updated Oct 22, 2019 at 1:27 PM

    Note: Too bad, I could not find info about the Biden investigation. A lie by omission.
    However, you can continue reading the info from

    Poroshenko Ukrainian Money Laundering Scheme Explained


    Poroshenko Ukrainian Money Laundering Scheme Explained
    by CD Media Staff October 21, 2019

    CD Media will be releasing a piece shortly on the efforts of the Democratic Party and its conspirators to white-wash the reputation of Gontareva as possible charges are brought. We will also be releasing information on the real story behind the nationalization of Privat Bank in Ukraine.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 22 2019 #50770
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    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/the-media-war-on-truthful-reporting-and-legitimate-opinions-a-documentary.html

    April 21, 2018

    Last week saw an extreme intensifying of the warmongers’ campaign against individuals who publicly hold and defend a different view than the powers-that-be want to promote. The campaign has a longer history but recently turned personal. It now endangers the life and livelihood of real people.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 22 2019 #50769
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    Does the truth matter when everybody lies
    Associated Press writer Mike Balsamo in Washington contributed to this report.
    ___
    AP Diplomatic Writer Matthew Lee in Washington contributed to this report.

    By LYNN BERRY and LISA MASCARO, Associated Press – Associated Press – Tuesday, October 22, 2019

    WASHINGTON — Former U.S. Ambassador William Taylor, who’s emerging as an unlikely central player in the events at the heart of the impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump, arrived on Capitol Hill on Tuesday to testify.

    Taylor had been serving as executive vice president at the U.S. Institute of Peace, a nonpartisan think tank founded by Congress, when he was appointed to run the embassy in Kyiv after Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch was removed before the end of her term following a campaign against her led by Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.
    He was chosen for the post because he was among only a handful of former officials with experience in Ukraine who would be perceived as neutral by local officials and wouldn’t raise objections at the White House, according to a colleague.
    “It was a very short list, but Bill was at the top of it,” said the colleague, who was not authorized to speak publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity. “We were very grateful he agreed to do it.”
    Taylor, who had served as U.S. ambassador to Ukraine from 2006 to 2009, was welcomed back to Kyiv as a steady hand.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 22 2019 #50768
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    Posted at 12:30 pm on October 6, 2019 by Elizabeth Vaughn

    Smoking Gun? Glenn Beck Releases Audio of Ukrainian Official Admitting He Interfered In U.S. Election to Help ‘Hillary’

    Smoking Gun? Glenn Beck Releases Audio of Ukrainian Official Admitting He Interfered In U.S. Election to Help ‘Hillary’

    Beck said this tape has been floating around Ukraine for a while, but it was only recently translated into English.
    Here is a transcript of the tape. Scroll down for the audiotape (Sytnyk’s conversation begins at 4:00).

    Glenn Beck Special October 03, 2019
    https://www.theblaze.com/glenn-beck-special/glenn-beck-special-ukraine-the-democrats-russia
    WATCH: Glenn Beck SPECIAL, ‘Ukraine: The Democrats’ Russia’
    Get the untold truth about the REAL Ukraine scandal
    The details in the background of U.S. involvement with Ukraine go much deeper — and are much more troubling — than anything Joe Biden or Donald Trump may have been doing. There is so much at stake for our nation.
    In a special live presentation on Thursday, Glenn Beck used the chalkboard to break down the untold truth of Democrat corruption and abuse of power in Ukraine — with all the well-researched facts and documentation to back it up.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 22 2019 #50767
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    ‘I’m In An Unfair Fight Against A Superpower,’ Assange Tells UK Court (SMH)
    Julian Assange Struggled To Remember His Name

    Why do the elites do this ….
    I always thought that making a martyr was bad for the powerful people.
    Yesterday is gone …. there are cameras everywhere. There are witnesses reporting everywhere.
    There will be hundreds of reporters coming out of the woodwork.
    Yep! If you are part of TAE, then you are part of the new form of disseminating info that cannot be controlled.
    Wikileak is only one of the first.
    Maybe, the following discussion would help us see what is changing with whistleblowers
    https://time.com/5702166/whistleblowers-today-media/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 21 2019 #50751
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    Biden said, “THERE IS NO PROOF”
    I ask you, “Does it matter? Do you care?’

    The shady arrangement between the Atlantic Council and Burisma – the gas company at the center of the ‘Ukrainegate’ scandal – is just one dubious deal out of many at a DC think tank that has become a clearinghouse for legal corruption.
    By Max Blumenthal

    DC’s Atlantic Council raked in funding from Hunter Biden’s corruption-stained employer while courting his VP father

    But behind the curtain, the Atlantic Council has initiated a lucrative relationship with a corruption-tainted Ukrainian gas company, the Burisma Group, that is worth as much as $250,000 a year. The partnership has paid for lavish conferences in Monaco and helped bring Burisma’s oligarchic founder out of the cold.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 21 2019 #50744
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    I predict that the three monkeys will win.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 21 2019 #50743
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    “The theft totals in the billions of dollars.”

    BREAKING: Burisma Paid Former Ukrainian President Poroshenko $100mm To Suppress Hunter Biden Investigation in 2017, Bribed FBI agents Ignored Evidence, US Embassy In Kyiv Neck Deep In Corruption
    by L Todd Wood October 18, 2019

    Our source has seen the data from within the Ukrainian General Prosecutor’s Office. CD Media can confirm the prosecutor’s office is ready to cooperate with the FBI and the information has been recently provided to FBI agents.

    CD Media Releasing Information On Poroshenko Money Laundering/Biden Cover Up, In Series Of Articles, With Sourcing

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 21 2019 #50742
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    Nobel-prize winning economist Robert Shiller should know the right cause. Therefore, why is he misleading us with a lie?

    “Consumers are hanging in there.”

    That is so wrong. I see the proof everyday that the consumers are not contributing to “growth”.
    Banks are “hanging in there” lending money to the fill the yards with inventory and to extend credit card credits to people with no credible way of paying off their balance on their credit cards.
    Nobel-prize winning economist Robert Shiller is ignoring that +60% of people are struggling to meet all their payment before the end of the month.
    Nobel-prize winning economist Robert Shiller is ignoring the problem of diminishing GDP growth world wide.

    Of course, Nobel-prize winning economist Robert Shiller, is ignorant that “the International Monetary Fund has said, In its half-yearly update on the state of the world’s financial markets, the IMF said that almost 40% of the corporate debt in eight leading countries – the US, China, Japan, Germany, Britain, France, Italy and Spain – would be impossible to service if there was a downturn half as serious as that of a decade ago.”
    Of course, Nobel-prize winning economist Robert Shiller, must know that MMT from the bank will solve that problem.
    The Nobel-prize winning economist Robert Shiller, must also be aware that China has been solving its problem by printing money so that its companies could produce the mfg demands of the world.

    Nobel-prize winning economist Robert Shiller must have cataracts combined with dementia.
    You don’t know who is Robert Shiller? Then you should read the following to decided who is trying to pull the wool over your eyes.
    ( To me, He is another bottle of beer who just fell off the wall)

    https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/robert-shillers-latest-prediction-a-data-revolution-20190916 .

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    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 20 2019 #50724
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    Look what somebody wrote.
    Cough, cough
    (so did we)
    Its called populism

    Civil Unrest Is Erupting All Over The World, But Just Wait Until The United States Joins The Party…



    All over the globe, the mood is turning sour. Anger and frustration are bubbling over, and protests are becoming violent in major cities all across the planet. In some cases economic pain is driving the protests and in other cases political matters are motivating the protesters, and it has been a very long time since we have seen so many angry protests happening all over the world simultaneously.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 20 2019 #50717
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    Thousands is a mass protest for Canadians who are going for an election on Monday.
    Government could fall.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 20 2019 #50715
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    We are here: demonstrating because ….
    We hear about peace, but we don’t see it. We hear about prosperity, but we don’t feel it.

    I see a lot of inventory. Even the pallets are pilling up in the yards.
    Its all collateral owned by the banks.
    The banks have access to MMT
    Consumers have access to credit cards.
    Retiree and savers think that they have a pile of safe money/wealth somewhere.
    Collecting agencies know that they will not be able to collect on the loans without using force.
    To avoid the use of killing force, if they can, people are moving, migrating, escaping, prepping.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 20 2019 #50714
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    Thousands march in climate strike with activist Greta Thunberg

    Thousands of people marched through downtown Edmonton to the Alberta legislature Friday for a climate strike that included 16-year-old Swedish activist Greta Thunberg, while a counter-protest made its way from Red Deer in support of Alberta oil and gas.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 20 2019 #50710
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    “NOTE: none of the people in the clip below have denied beating their wives.”

    NOTE (THE OBVIOUS):The question is enough to do the damage. The answer is irrelevant.

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    Brexit: Parliament Tethers Britain to a Failing Experiment


    the Yellow Vests are nearing their fiftieth straight week of protests
    …. We hear about peace, but we don’t see it. We hear about prosperity, but we don’t feel it.,

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    My list of mass protests yesterday included Chili, Ecuador, Lebanon, Barcelona, France, London, Puerto Rico, Hong Kong. Today we can add Iraq.

    I want to add Venezuela and USA, Canada, Mexico, Central America.

    Its time to look up the definition of populism (pick your favorite definition)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism

    Populism refers to a range of political stances that emphasise the idea of “the people” and often juxtapose this group against “the elite”.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 19 2019 #50684
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    “Gabbard called out Clinton, who has dropped hints that she might run again in 2020 as a rematch for her 2016 humiliation.”

    Some people see things differently today than yesterday.

    I tried to find name for this illusion/perception/condition …. I could not find an appropriate name. Maybe, it should be called Clintoma

    Here is what I found that can affect how and what we see.

    Glaucoma is a group of eye diseases that can cause vision loss and blindness by damaging a nerve in the back of your eye called the optic nerve. The symptoms can start so slowly that you may not notice them.

    Cataracts are one of the leading causes of vision impairment in elderly people.
    A cataract is a clouding of the normally clear lens of your eye.

    Astigmatism is a type of refractive error caused by the irregularities in the shape of a person’s cornea. In this condition, the eye fails to focus the light equally on the retina leading to blurred or distorted vision.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 18 2019 #50676
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    cognitive dissonance

    Every story about Syria need a salt shaker. Mine is empty.
    Where …. Who …. is telling the truth
    What is black ,,, what is white ….
    The peasant, in the dark, are watching the elites having a glorious party in the mansion.
    Here is a story being passed down to the rif-raf peasants.

    The US has backed 21 of the 28 ‘crazy’ militias leading Turkey’s brutal invasion of northern Syria

    Below is SETA’s list of Turkish “national army” militias, outlining the type of US support each one received over the years:
    https://setav.org/en/assets/uploads/2019/10/A54En.pdf

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 18 2019 #50673
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    The USA military in Syria is so powerful and feared that only 26 soldiers ( it was rumored to be 50) were capable of holding back the Turkish army from moving into northern Syria.

    Duuuuuu!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 18 2019 #50672
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    On top of continuing to using cheap imports by exploiting other countries’ labor and natural resources ….

    Trump has found other ways of balancing his financial budget and paying for the lavish lifestyle of the USA citizens.
    Trump has also started to turn the military into a mercenary cash cow.
    Trump will be getting Billions of dollars from tariffs and from the renting of the military.

    TRUMP KEEPS TELLING EVERYONE THAT HIS APPROACH IS RIGHT, AND NOBODY BELIEVES HIM.
    …. economic warfare ….

    https://sg.news.yahoo.com/us-imposes-tariffs-eu-goods-targeting-airbus-wine-043338013.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 17 2019 #50664
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    I don’t have very much to say. Others have said it before me and much better than I could.

    Distraction

    Read something that is true.
    http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2019/10/economic-decay-leads-to-social-and.html

    If we want to make real progress, we have to properly diagnose the structural sources of the rot that is spreading quickly into every nook and cranny of the society and culture.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 16 2019 #50653
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    Did anyone notice that Trump said that Saudi Arabia is going to pay and pay well for the troops being sent?
    definition:
    mercenary: primarily concerned with making money at the expense of ethics.

    Trump Is Sending More Troops to Saudi Arabia


    They won’t make up for backing out of Syria and failing to stand up to Iran.
    By Bilal Y. Saab | October 16, 2019, 12:36 PM

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