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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle November 9 2019 #51183
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    @Doc Robinson
    I looked a little deeper
    edit: I don’t know how to fix the link so that the picture are eliminated

    https://jubileedebt.org.uk/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Who-is-Africa-debt-owed-to_10.18.pdf
    Africa’s growing debt crisis: Who is the debt owed to?
    October 2018

    Response to the IMF response on bailing out reckless lenders


    Response to the IMF response on bailing out reckless lenders
    8 Oct 2019

    It took a year to answer the report.

    The rich and powerful have not changed and will not change what works for them.
    Business as usual

    the IMF needs to stop responding to debt crises by giving loans which bailout other lenders, from China to Western companies, incentivising them to continue lending recklessly. Instead, lenders need to be made to restructure and reduce debts.”

    If you have been following the Biden saga, then you know that the lawyers and the accountants are the enablers of all scams. (They are the ones who write the laws to make everything legal for their masters)

    in reply to: Things November 8 2019 #51158
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    Something is wrong with the society.
    People are choosing to be homeless.
    People are choosing to live in misery.

    in reply to: Things November 8 2019 #51155
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    Here is the solution, by the elites, for the problem that they caused.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/brendarichardson/2019/11/07/las-vegas-adopts-a-controversial-ban-on-homeless-camping-or-sleeping-in-public-areas/#6c7c61434536

    Under the ordinance, violators could be charged with a misdemeanor crime and fined up to $1,000 or sentenced for up to six months in jail. The law will go into effect Sunday, but the criminal provision will not be enforced until February 1.
    The official website of the City of Las Vegas posted a news blog October 29 detailing the city’s efforts to address homelessness. Here are the seven factors that were outlined.

    https://www.lasvegasnevada.gov/News/Blog/Detail/city-council-to-hear-first-reading-of-new-ordinance-designed-to-connect-homeless-with-services-and-off-the-streets

    in reply to: Things November 8 2019 #51153
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    We have seen this played out before.

    A parachute candidate
    Disappointment that Trump was not a dud. The R party did not plan A Trump win.
    Disappointment that Hillary lost. The D party planned Hillary to win.

    The allegation is thus that the candidate is being “parachuted in” for the job by a desperate political party that has no reliable talent indigenous to the district or state or that the party (or the candidate himself/herself) wishes to give a candidate an easier election than would happen in one’s own home area.

    in reply to: Energy vs Waste #51150
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    ” …. the system will build a patchwork replacement ….”

    The premise is basic, so how could we debate or discuss it?

    I think that every comment was appropriate and applicable to some condition.
    There will not be one solution for all conditions.

    We were lucky. We lived in the best of time.

    in reply to: Energy vs Waste #51122
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    We all know the answer for societies to lower energy consumption and as a result lower the waste.

    Lower reproduction reduces population reduces energy consumption reduces waste production.

    Its all about quid pro quo.

    Who should be first to start the process?
    Everyone says, not me. You go first. Lets set up a committee to study the problem. etc.

    in reply to: Energy vs Waste #51107
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    Energy vs Waste is a quid pro quo
    Therefore lets do an impeachment inquiry.

    NOUN
    a favor or advantage granted or expected in return for something.
    “the pardon was a quid pro quo for their help in releasing hostages”
    synonyms:
    exchange · trade · trade-off · swap · switch · barter · substitute · substitution · reciprocity · reciprocation · return · payment · remuneration · amends · compensation · indemnity · recompense · restitution · reparation · satisfaction · requital

    in reply to: Things November 6 2019 #51093
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    Keep following Epstein. Keep us informed.
    Its going to be bigger than Biden.

    in reply to: Things November 6 2019 #51090
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ukrainians-pimped-hunter-bidens-seat-leverage-obama-state-department
    “…. the Wall Street Journal, citing documents released in response to a Freedom of Information Act request submitted by journalist John Solomon.” (Wall street jornal is behind a paywall.)
    Here is the affidavit that nobody is citing

    Uploaded byJohn Solomon
    Description:
    Sworn statement of former Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor https://www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement

    Now go to
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/democrats-release-impeachment-hearing-transcript-top-diplomat-ukraine
    see what Ambassador Star said.

    Maybe the 3 monkeys are waking up

    in reply to: Things November 6 2019 #51089
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    Finding the truth by the 3 monkeys
    Will John Solomon be requested to give a testimony at the impeachment inquiry?

    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/435906-us-embassy-pressed-ukraine-to-drop-probe-of-george-soros-group-during-2016

    US Embassy pressed Ukraine to drop probe of George Soros group during 2016 election
    By John Solomon, opinion contributor — 03/26/19

    in reply to: Things November 6 2019 #51088
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    BREAKING: Source Reveals Hunter Biden Took ‘Off The Books’ Payments From Burisma, Aided By FBI Coverup


    BREAKING: Source Reveals Hunter Biden Took ‘Off The Books’ Payments From Burisma, Aided By FBI Coverup
    by CD Media Staf fNovember 6, 2019

    In our extensive discussions with Onyshchenko, CD Media can report that he confirmed Hunter Biden took ‘off the books’ payments totally millions from Burisma.
    “There were ‘official’ and ‘unofficial’ payments to the Biden family,” Onyshchenko stated.
    Onyshchenko also confirmed that former FBI agent Karen Greenway, who oversaw the Obama administration’s anti-corruption efforts in Eastern Europe, directed the coverup of the Biden scandal at the time, in concert with the U.S. embassy in Kyiv, and other Deep State American government assets ‘in-country’.
    There is much more information to be disclosed in this story and CD Media will be releasing more as we become comfortable with its accuracy.

    in reply to: Things November 6 2019 #51087
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    @ sumac.carol & Dr. D

    Phil Torres is a scholar of global catastrophic risks –
    Civilization is an experiment. We may not get the results we’re expecting. So humanity would do well to hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

    humanity is not hoping for the best or preparing for the worst.-3 monkeys
    —–
    https://video.foxnews.com/v/6100890967001/#sp=show-clips

    Enlarge player →
    Graham on quid pro quo in Biden-Ukraine scandal
    Nov. 05, 2019 – 5:42 – South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham on impeachment inquiry and Biden-Ukraine scandal.

    Background
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsey_Graham#Personal_life
    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko presents the Order of Prince Yaroslav the Wise to Graham, December 30, 2016
    —-
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Solomon_(political_commentator)
    Solomon’s part in the Trump–Ukraine scandal

    in reply to: Things November 5 2019 #51072
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    https://johnsolomonreports.com/
    election, State Department saw Burisma as Joe Biden’s issue, memos show
    November 5, 2019

    Memos newly released through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by the Southeastern Legal Foundation on my behalf detail how State officials in June 2016 worked to prepare the new U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, to handle a question about “Burisma and Hunter Biden.”
    In multiple drafts of a question-and-answer memo prepared for Yovanovitch’s Senate confirmation hearing, the department’s Ukraine experts urged the incoming ambassador to stick to a simple answer.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/433598562/Burisma-QA

    Uploaded byJohnSolomon
    Description:
    Questions and answers drafted in June 2016 by the State Department for incoming Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, including what to say about Hunter Biden’s role at Burisma Holdings.Full description

    in reply to: Things November 5 2019 #51069
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    heheheh The 3 monkeys cannot read.
    November 05, 2019
    A Timeline Of Joe Biden’s Intervention Against The Prosecutor General Of Ukraine
    (This is a working thread intended to be updated when new details come to light.)
    The Washington Post provided a timeline of the 2015/206 intervention by then-Vice President Joe Biden against the then-General Prosecutor of Ukraine, Viktor Shokin. Shokin was investigating Mykola Zlochevsky, the owner of the gas company Burisma Holdings which paid Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden at least $50,000 per month for being on its board.
    We used that timeline to show that Biden’s intervention reached its height shortly after the prosecutor confiscated Zlochevsky houses.
    A new report by John Solomon, based on released State Department emails, supports the suspicion that Joe Biden and others intervened against Shokin on behalf of Burisma and on request of his son:

    Click on the link at the right and see the reference.
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/11/a-timeline-of-joe-bidens-intervention-against-the-prosecutor-general-of-ukraine.html#more

    in reply to: Things November 5 2019 #51067
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    How Far Will They Go?


    Clusterfuck Nation – Blog
    November 4, 2019
    ” ….the real story of what happened over the past three years into a shocking tapestry of massive subversion and treachery…..”

    The elites don’t care who knows because they don’t think that the rif-raf can change the system.
    History is on the side of the elites.
    Is France different now that before the French revolution?

    What happened to the yellow vests?
    No change Same-oll, same-oll

    About for the umbrella demonstration in Hong Kong.
    Will the present elites be replaced by other elites?

    There are populous demonstrators in many countries.
    Yep! The elites are entrenched and the rif-raf are failing to make the elites make major social/economic changes.

    in reply to: Things November 3 2019 #51055
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    @ Raúl Ilargi Meijer

    UKRAINE IMPEACHMENT INFO

    WHERE IS THE TRUTH TELLER
    WHO CARES!!!

    ‘Witness’ Vindman Was Given Instructions By Corrupt State Department In Ukraine

    ‘Witness’ Vindman Was Given Instructions By Corrupt State Department In Ukraine
    by CD Media Staff November 4, 2019
    ———-
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/30/ukraine-mystery-schiff-staffer-made-august-visit-for-think-tank-backed-by-hunter-bidens-old-employer/

    Aaron Klein is Breitbart’s Jerusalem bureau chief and senior investigative reporter. He is a New York Times bestselling author and hosts the popular weekend talk radio program, “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio.”
    Joshua Klein contributed research to this article.
    ——
    Can a small blogger compete with the resources of https://www.breitbart.com/#

    in reply to: Things November 3 2019 #51048
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    An old story being ignored

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
    Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.

    By KENNETH P. VOGEL and DAVID STERN 01/11/2017

    in reply to: Things November 3 2019 #51040
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    So nobody can tell me about those emails?

    It will be very time consuming.
    Maybe, someone here can help you to find info.

    https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/
    On March 16, 2016 WikiLeaks launched a searchable archive for over 30 thousand emails & email attachments sent to and from Hillary Clinton’s private email server while she was Secretary of State. The 50,547 pages of documents span from 30 June 2010 to 12 August 2014. 7,570 of the documents were sent by Hillary Clinton. The emails were made available in the form of thousands of PDFs by the US State Department as a result of a Freedom of Information Act request. More PDFs were made available on February 29, 2016, and a set of additional 995 emails was imported up to February 2, 2018.

    I did a little search for Huma Abedin in Hillary’s e-mail then went online to find out who she was.
    (She is not your average blue collar worker)

    Huma Abedin


    She made her 2 million dollar fortune with Clinton’s campaign. she is now 43 years of age.
    Huma Abedin is an American political staffer. She started working for the Clinton office at the age of 19. Huma was the vice chair of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign for President of the United States

    Huma Abedin lives in a 1,500 square foot apartment which is on the 14th and 15th floors of 1 Irving Place. It has three bedrooms and two bathrooms. The building has a roof deck overlooking Union Square.

    Huma Abedin married U.S. Representative Anthony Weiner in 2010. The couple welcomed their son on the following year. In 2017, Huma filed for divorce as Anthony involved in sexting scandals again.

    in reply to: Things November 3 2019 #51039
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    Ahhhh!
    This blog, and comments are filled with old wise grey owls.

    We have all seen and read the transcript of “the phone conversation”
    Why is it that there are two interpretations of what was said?
    IMPEACHMENT! YES! OR NO!

    I KNOW WHY!
    Its all because of the linguistic manipulation by the lawyers.
    The truth does not matter.

    Remember the saying by a famous lawyer ….
    “There’s no proof of wrong doing”
    ——
    On another parallel universe ….
    ( Where I live)
    The giver is as guilty, (corrupt), as the receiver

    Foreign Aid Makes Corrupt Countries More Corrupt

    Foreign Aid Makes Corrupt Countries More Corrupt
    And there are few better examples than Ukraine—just don’t tell the House impeachment hearings.
    By James Bovard • October 30, 2019

    Counting on foreign aid to reduce corruption is like expecting whiskey to cure alcoholism.

    Most of the press coverage has tacitly assumed that American assistance is vital to fighting corruption in Ukraine. But that ignores foreign aid’s toxic record and Ukraine’s post-Soviet history.

    A 2002 American Economic Review analysis,
    ( https://www.jstor.org/stable/3083301?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents ),
    concluded that “increases in [foreign] aid are associated with contemporaneous increases in corruption,” and that “corruption is positively correlated with aid received from the United States.”

    Bush declared, “I think it makes no sense to give aid, money, to countries that are corrupt.” But the Bush administration continued delivering billions of dollars in handouts to many of the world’s most corrupt regimes. The Bush team found excuses to give MCA aid to some of the world’s most corrupt governments as well, including Georgia.

    https://books.google.ca/books?
    id=jIRBIDbpsY0C&pg=PA462&lpg=PA462&dq=george+w+bush+%22I+think+it+makes+no+sense+to+give+aid,+money,+to+countries+that+are+corrupt%22&source=bl&ots=jRfC8uL_Oy&sig=ACfU3U3vi1VPC4VLf43yP1c1OaWe13My9A&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=george%20w%20bush%20%22I%20think%20it%20makes%20no%20sense%20to%20give%20aid%2C%20money%2C%20to%20countries%20that%20are%20corrupt%22&f=false

    Clinton tries to stop House aid bill
    (Cough! Cough!)
    By JENNIFER EPSTEIN 07/27/2011
    https://www.politico.com/story/2011/07/clinton-tries-to-stop-house-aid-bill-060044?tab=most-read

    Clinton said in a letter Tuesday that she would urge President Barack Obama to veto the bill if it passes in both houses of Congress because the measure “would be debilitating to my efforts to carry out a considered foreign policy and diplomacy, and to use foreign assistance strategically to that end,” The Washington Post reported. The bill would only allow the flow of money to those countries if the Obama administration was able to certify that no members of terror groups or their sympathizers were serving in their governments.

    (DHuuuu!)

    As John Sopko, the heroic Special Inspector General for Afghan Reconstruction (SIGAR), observed, “We need to understand how US policies and practices unintentionally aided and abetted corruption. We must recognize the danger of dealing with characters or networks of unsavory repute, tolerating contracting abuses, accepting shoddy performance and delivering unsustainable projects.”

    It takes TWO to Tango. Who are the bad guy in the USA

    The closed House impeachment hearings last week heard from acting U.S. ambassador to the Ukraine William B. Taylor Jr., who testified that he “had authority over the bulk of the U.S. effort to support Ukraine against the Russian invasion and to help it defeat corruption.”

    Taylor was ambassador to Ukraine from 2006 to 2009, when corruption sharply worsened despite hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. aid.
    ( Too bad that Taylor was one of the 3 monkeys)

    Bribing foreign politicians to encourage honest government makes as much sense as distributing free condoms to encourage abstinence. Rather than encouraging good governance practices, foreign aid is more likely to produce kleptocracies, or governments of thieves. As a Brookings Institution analysis observed, “The history of U.S. assistance is littered with tales of corrupt foreign officials using aid to line their own pockets, support military buildups, and pursue vanity projects.” And both American politicians and bureaucrats are want to continue the aid gravy train, regardless of how foreign regimes waste the money or use it to repress their own citizens.
    ( The givers are just as guilty)

    If U.S. aid was effective, Ukraine would have become a rule of law paradise long ago. The country’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, may be sincere in his efforts to root out corruption. But it is an insult to both him and his nation to pretend that Ukraine cannot clean up its act without help from Donald Trump. The surest way to reduce foreign corruption is to end foreign aid.

    in reply to: Things November 2 2019 #50997
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    Look up the synonyms the enabler
    Then look up the synonyms for notary and lawyer

    We live in a world where there are rules and regulation that make it possible for society to function.
    All of us here have had to use lawyers, notaries and accountants

    • Horse-Trading Is Not An Impeachable Offense (HE)
    There are 102 synonym …. •exchange (verb)
    shuttle, bandy, contact with, displace, deal in, transpose, cash in, shuffle, go over to, change hands, hook up, return the compliment, revise, castle, transact, reciprocate, commute, interchange, replace, correspond, substitute, market, switch, turn the tables, convert into, flip-flop, truck, alternate, network, invert, reverse, swap horses, give and take, rearrange, shift, pay back, seesaw, pass to, transfer, change, link up.

    • In Defense of Tulsi Gabbard (Sjursen)

    Gabbard should seriously consider suing for libel. Clinton has veritably, and without a shred of evidence, accused her of treason, a crime that, due to Gabbard’s continued military service, is punishable by death. This is no small matter.

    The hidden “Deep State”
    The “power behind the throne”
    You are all aware that the majority of politicians are lawyers, and have legal training and accounting background.
    Why are lawyers and accountants not identified as the power behind the throne?
    Did you forget who said, “There is no proof of wrong doing”
    Biden went to Syracuse University College of Law. He knows how to hire the right law and accounting experts so that he does not do “any wrong doing”.

    in reply to: Things November 1 2019 #50987
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    Here is a video.
    Lots of new equipment. Who paid for them. Who owns them.

    The Sarrin base, which hosted dozens of U.S. service members, is one of the biggest coalition bases in eastern Aleppo. The base’s long airstrip is used to supply coalition forces deployed in Aleppo and Raqqa.

    in reply to: Things November 1 2019 #50983
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    Good.
    I wish that I knew how to delete the pictures that come with a link.

    in reply to: Things November 1 2019 #50981
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    DO THE DEMOCRATES KNOW HOW TO READ?
    WHO SHOULD BE IMPEACHED?

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9d2_1440117128

    Kolomoisky had built his multibillion dollar financial base partly thanks to his mastery of “raiding,” the local version of mergers and acquisitions, involving methods that would make even the most hardened Wall Street financier turn pale. According to Matthew Rojansky, director of the Kennan Institute at the Woodrow Wilson Center for International Scholars, who has made a special study of the practice, “there are actual firms in Ukraine . . . registered with offices and business cards, firms [that specialize in] various dimensions of the corporate raiding process, which includes armed guys to do stuff, forging documents, bribing notaries, bribing judges.”

    The international financial agency had rushed the money to Ukraine in April, in response to what IMF managing director Christine Lagarde called a “major crisis.” She went on to hail the government’s “unprecedented resolve” in developing a “bold economic program to secure macroeconomic and financial stability.” Over the next five months the international agency poured the equivalent of $4.51 billion ($2.97 billion in “Special Drawing Rights”—the IMF’s own currency) into the National Bank of Ukraine— the country’s central bank. Much of this money was urgently needed to prop up the local commercial banks. In theory, the IMF appeared to require direct supervision of how the Ukrainian banks used the aid. In fact, it appears the banks got to select their own auditors.

    The scheme, as revealed in a series of court judgments of the Economic Court of the Dnipropetrovsk region monitored and reported by Nashi Groshi, worked like this: Forty-two Ukrainian firms owned by fifty-four offshore entities registered in Caribbean, American, and Cypriot jurisdictions and linked to or affiliated with the Privat group of companies, took out loans from PrivatBank in Ukraine to the value of $1.8 billion. The firms then ordered goods from six foreign “supplier” companies, three of which were incorporated in the United Kingdom, two in the British Virgin Islands, one in the Caribbean statelet of St. Kitts & Nevis. Payment for the orders—$1.8 billion—was shortly afterwards prepaid into the vendors’ accounts, which were, coincidentally, in the Cyprus branch of PrivatBank. Once the money was sent, the Ukrainian importing companies arranged with PrivatBank Ukraine that their loans be guaranteed by the goods on order.
    But the foreign suppliers invariably reported that they could not fulfill the order after all, thus breaking the contracts, but without any effort to return the money.

    Thanks to the need to use the economic court as a legal fig leaf, the scheme operated in plain view. “There were no secret sources,” Ivanovna told me. “We found this story while monitoring the court decisions registrar. It’s open and free to search, so we read it on a daily basis.” Other companies had used the same mechanism, she pointed out. “The major difference of this case is its immensity.”

    in reply to: Things November 1 2019 #50980
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    How many lawyers and accountants did it take to determine the best primary resident for Trump?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-primary-residence-trump-moving-primary-residence-from-new-york-city-to-florida/
    President Trump has changed his primary residence from Trump Tower in New York City to Mar-a-Lago in Florida,

    Lifelong New Yorker Trump moving primary residence to Florida
    By Caroline Linton
    Updated on: November 1, 2019 / 8:47 AM / CBS News

    in reply to: Things November 1 2019 #50976
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    I forgot to save my input and lost it. Therefore, another try.

    TAE is a go-to-place for seniors who need to feel that they are still relevant and want to stay connected to current affairs, news, gossip, analysis, opinions.
    Here is my input to todays discussion.
    ———-
    “Sometimes we get the impression John Solomon is the only person out there who knows the facts. And cares about them.”

    Parallel universe

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/10/who-is-supposed-to-define-us-foreign-policy-hint-it-is-not-the-borg.html#more
    October 30, 2019
    The New York Times continues to lie about Joe Biden’s involvement in the Ukraine and about Ukrainian involvement in the U.S. election. Today it also lied about a fact in relation to Lieutenant Colonel Vindman who was yesterday questioned by the Democrats ‘impeachment inquiry’. The NYT reported that very fact just a day ago. During the hearing Lt.Col. Vindman expressed a rather preposterous view about who should define U.S. foreign policy.
    The NYT claims to debunk falsehoods but spreads more of them:
    Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine

    By Davey Alba
    Oct. 29, 2019
    (Its behind a paywall)

    in reply to: Things October 31 2019 #50958
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    IMPEACHMENT: Will John Solomon testify?
    There are a lot of links supporting this narrative.
    MORE BIDEN

    Debunking some of the Ukraine scandal myths about Biden and election interference


    Debunking some of the Ukraine scandal myths about Biden and election interference
    John Solomon Reports October 31, 2019

    Facts do matter. And they prove to be stubborn evidence, even in the midst of a political firestorm. So here are the facts (complete with links to the original materials) debunking some of the bigger fables in the Ukraine scandal.

    The second episode occurred on U.S. soil back in August 2016 when Ukraine’s then-ambassador to Washington, Valeriy Chaly, took the extraordinary step of writing an OpEd in The Hill criticizing GOP nominee Donald Trump and his views on Russia just three months before Election Day. You can read that OpEd here.
    And it clearly adds to the public perception that Ukraine’s government at the time preferred Hillary Clinton over Trump in the 2016 election.
    In another words, the Burisma investigations were active at the time Vice President Biden forced Shokin’s firing, and any suggestion to the contrary is pure misinformation.

    Hunter Biden’s and Archer’s firm received monthly consulting payments totaling $166,666, or three times the amount cited by the media. In some months, there was even more money than that paid. You can review those bank records here.
    The monthly payments figures are confirmed by the accounting ledger that Burisma turned over to Ukrainian prosecutors. That ledger, which you can read here, also shows that in spring and summer of 2014 Burisma paid more than $283,000 to the American law firm of Boies Schiller, where Hunter Biden also worked as an attorney.

    Myth: President Trump was trying to force Ukraine to reopen a probe into Burisma Holdings and its founder Mykola Zlochevsky when he talked to Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, in July of this year.
    The Facts: Trump could not have forced the Ukrainians into opening a new Burisma investigation in July because the Ukrainian Prosecutor General’s office had already done so on March 28, 2019, or three months before the call.
    The prosecutors filed this notice of suspicion in Ukraine announcing the re-opening of the investigation. The revival of the case was even widely reported in the Ukrainian press, something U.S. intelligence and diplomats who are now testifying to Congress behind closed doors should have known. Here’s an example of one such Ukrainian media report at the time.
    So the activities and allegation now at the heart of impeachment actually pre-date Giuliani starting work on Ukraine. You can read the prosecutors’ account of their 2018 effort to get this information to Americans here.
    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/437719-ukrainian-to-us-prosecutors-why-dont-you-want-our-evidence-on-democrats

    in reply to: Things October 31 2019 #50956
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    ” … it can not cost more than two hours in the morning.”
    We, those who are here comenting can help you with our input. (including me.) There are good journalist out there that we can re-post their findings in the comment sections. ZeroHedge accepts input from many bloggers. There are other places that accept inputs from other sources .
    (eg. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ )
    ——

    • Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Revealed (GP)
    There are good comments in the original article.

    FLASHBACK: Mike Cernovich Was First to Report on Dangerous DNC Operative Eric Ciaramella in 2017 – A Biden, Obama, Brennan Spy in the Trump White House

    ——-
    “When are the airlines going to sue Boeing?”

    They should. BUT, where will the money come from? RIGHT. Not from the elites.
    ——

    I would like to bring you attention to this article and the comments
    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=237228#discuss
    Fed Has Shovel, Digs Bigger Hole

    in reply to: If It’s A Boeing I’m Not Going #50942
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    INTERPRETATION

    The Age of Anger Exploding in Serial Geysers


    The Age of Anger Exploding in Serial Geysers

    October 30, 2019

    by Pepe Escobar : posted with permission and x-posted with Consortium News

    PEPE ESCOBAR: The Age of Anger Exploding in Serial Geysers

    To digress about “populism” is nonsensical. What’s happening is the Age of Anger exploding in serial geysers that simply cannot be contained by the same, old, tired, corrupt forms of political representation allowed by that fiction, Western liberal democracy.

    in reply to: Notes October 29 2019 #50936
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    An interesting story: An opinion

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52443.htm
    I don’t blame the Lebanese rioters setting Beirut alight – they are hungry, poor and furious

    On the corniche seafront where I live almost every apartment block is empty. These buildings are owned as investments by Iraqis and Saudis, while the poor of the Beqaa Valley live in shacks

    By Robert Fisk
    October 25, 2019

    in reply to: If It’s A Boeing I’m Not Going #50930
    zerosum
    Participant

    ” ….erred by not specifically testing the potential for a key sensor to erroneously cause software on the 737 Max to drive down the plane’s nose…..”

    It sound like getting into a self driving plane with an alpha program. (A drone with no one at the controls)
    They still have not perfected the self driving car systems or trains with no one at the controls.

    in reply to: Notes October 29 2019 #50929
    zerosum
    Participant

    This link might be interesting for us.
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
    Purpose and Intent of this website:
    This website does not suggest that it contains the “truth”. The truth is a combination of all information and all facts relating to a topic. It is therefore unachievable (in my opinion) for anyone to say “I know the truth.”
    If you came to this site in search of “the truth” you will be disappointed. That is also true of CNN, FOX , ABC etc. If you came to gather information you may find it a useful resource.

    in reply to: Notes October 29 2019 #50927
    zerosum
    Participant

    Background info on Lebanon
    https://www.jadaliyya.com/Details/40134/The-Magic-of-Mutual-Coexistence-in-Lebanon-The-Taif-Accord-at-Thirty
    The Magic of Mutual Coexistence in Lebanon: The Taif Accord at Thirty
    By : Maya Mikdashi Oct 23, 2019
    Lebanon

    in reply to: Notes October 29 2019 #50925
    zerosum
    Participant

    THE ELITES FEAR ALL VERSIONS WIKILEAKS REPORTING

    USAID funds salaries of Venezuelan coup leaders to lobby US politicians for regime change

    USAID is diverting $41.9 million from aid for Central America to pay the salaries of Juan Guaidó’s team as they work to influence policy inside the US.
    By Leonardo Flores

    This was originally published at MR Online and updated by The Grayzone

    To date, no information has been made public as to whose salaries are being paid and how much they are being paid. What we do know is that the hard-earned dollars of American citizens are lining the pockets of Venezuelan politicians who have demanded an increasingly harder line against the Maduro government. This harder line includes brutal economic sanctions that amount to the collective punishment of ordinary Venezuelans and have led to the death of at least 40,000 people.
    Mr. Guaidó has been taking the Trump administration for a ride, and now he and his followers are cashing in. Nearly nine months after his coup began, he is no closer to being in power than he was when he swore himself into office on a street corner in Caracas. There has been no increase in the number of countries that support the coup (54 have followed the U.S. lead); in fact, after initially shunning the Maduro government, several European countries are now working with him. Mr. Guaidó’s promises of mass military desertions, numerous defections of high-profile officials and a splitting of chavismo (the base of the Maduro government) have not come to fruition. His own base has actually gotten smaller, perhaps because members of his team were caught embezzling humanitarian aid in Colombia. Or it could be because Mr. Guaidó was photographed with drug traffickers and allegedly received logistical support from a nefarious Colombian cartel.
    The coup has not only failed, it has backfired.

    in reply to: Notes October 29 2019 #50924
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ V. Arnold
    I’m going to try to change the way I present the info that I find so that the truth can be shared.
    1. Name the author
    2. give a link
    3. Ask questions about the implication of the news
    4. Spread the link to other bloggers

    ‘This charge is 100% false’: Grayzone editor Max Blumenthal arrested months after reporting on Venezuelan opposition violence

    Blumenthal was arrested literally hours after The Grayzone published an article on USAID paying the salaries of Guaidó’s team as they lobbied the US government.

    Ben Norton
    Ben Norton is a journalist, writer, and filmmaker. He is the assistant editor of The Grayzone, and the producer of the Moderate Rebels podcast, which he co-hosts with editor Max Blumenthal. His website is BenNorton.com and he tweets at @BenjaminNorton.

    in reply to: Notes October 29 2019 #50918
    zerosum
    Participant

    The elites use the best lawyer and the best accountants

    Ukrainian Privat Bank Nationalization Was About Keeping Corruption Going, Not Ending It…What Are The Dems Hiding?


    Ukrainian Privat Bank Nationalization Was About Keeping Corruption Going, Not Ending It…What Are The Dems Hiding?
    by L Todd Wood October 29, 2019
    Somehow we think this dumpster fire of corruption in Ukraine involving billions in American aid has something to do with the ‘impeachment’ kangaroo court we are now seeing in Washington, D.C.
    The Democrats are really scared of something.

    in reply to: Notes October 29 2019 #50914
    zerosum
    Participant

    “After 74 years of lies; I know bullshit when I hear it!”

    Russian Defense Ministry Shows Evidence Of US Oil Smuggling From Syria (Saker)
    US Military Envisions Broad Defense Of Syrian Oilfields (R.)
    Assange Legal Team Asks For Australian Government Help Amid Growing Health Fears

    How can bloggers improve their impact? Prepare today for tomorrow.

    WikiLeaks, zero edge, TAE etc.

    improve

    better · ameliorate · upgrade · refine · enhance · boost · build on · help · raise · revamp · brush up · polish up · perk up · tweak · give a facelift to · meliorate · get better · become better · advance · progress · develop · make headway · come along · make progress · take steps forward · pick up · rally · make strides · look up

    Concentrate, focus, direct, center, centralize

    journalist

    reporter · correspondent · newsman · newswoman · newspaperman · newspaperwoman · columnist · writer · commentator · reviewer · blogger · investigative journalist · photojournalist · war correspondent · lobby correspondent · editor · subeditor · copy editor · paparazzo · pressman · legman · wireman · newsy · roundsman · newshound · hack · hackette · stringer · journo · talking head · newshawk · thumbsucker · publicist · the commentariat

    whistle-blower
    betrayer · traitor · Judas · collaborator · double-crosser · fifth columnist · double agent · spy · infiltrator · plant · turncoat · tattletale · rat · squealer · stool pigeon · stoolie · telltale · tale teller · snake in the grass · canary · snitch · peacher · grass · supergrass · nark · snout · nose · clype · tout · fink · fizgig · pimp · shelf · intelligencer · beagle

    podium

    platform · stage · dais · rostrum · stand · soapbox

    combine

    amalgamate · merge · unite · integrate · incorporate · fuse · blend · meld · mingle · coalesce · compound · alloy · homogenize · synthesize · consolidate · bind · bond · join · marry · put together · unify · pool · intermingle · mix · intermix · affiliate · commingle

    fund

    finance · pay for · back · capitalize · sponsor · provide finance/capital for · put up the money for · subsidize · underwrite · endow · support · be a patron of · float · maintain · foot the bill for · pick up the tab for · bankroll · stake

    in reply to: The Last Debt Rattle? #50895
    zerosum
    Participant

    “the US military has been running that oil out of Syria for a long time, with US protection of the tanker trucks. Photographic evidence is included, too.”

    Wow!!!!

    I don’t think the elites care that we know what they are doing.
    I feel sorry for the youth losing their lives for a bunch of lies.

    “we’re few and dwindling in a world gone mad.”

    How can bloggers improve their impact?

    in reply to: The Last Debt Rattle? #50881
    zerosum
    Participant

    The news …. the truth …. opinions ….
    I’m a sucker and keep coming back for more TAE. It must be in my genes.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50880
    zerosum
    Participant

    You might prefer the summary at ….
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/10/bidens-intervention-in-ukraine-and-ukraines-2016-election-meddling-are-matters-of-fact.html#more
    When Ukraine’s Prosecutor Came After His Son’s Sponsor Joe Biden Sprang Into Action

    and

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/10/biden-timeline.html
    Joe Biden himself bragged that he blackmailed the Ukrainian government to get the “corrupt” prosecutor general Viktor Shokin fired: (Quid-pr0-quo)

    or the story at ….

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/the-gas-tycoon-and-the-vice-presidents-son-the-story-of-hunter-bidens-foray-in-ukraine/2019/09/28/1aadff70-dfd9-11e9-8fd3-d943b4ed57e0_story.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 26 2019 #50867
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ Dr. D and V. Arnold
    I though that I had lost everyone.
    While waiting for the new platform by Ilargi, we could still communicate here.

    “…. a summary rundown….”
    Go to ….

    Leftist Press Doesn’t Care About Bonfire Of State Dept Corruption In Ukraine…They Only Want To ‘Get Rudy’

    LAWYERS AND ACCOUNTANTS ARE NEEDED FOR THESE KINDS OF OPERATIONS
    “THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF WRONG DOING”.

    ——-
    words matter when trying to communicate or hide or minimize or twist the TRUTH. That’s why there are lawyers and accountants.

    eg.
    Why does the news media refuse to use the words …..Assassination and executioner

    Assassination is the act of killing a prominent person for either political, religious, or monetary reasons.[1]
    An assassination may be prompted by religious, political or military motives. It is an act that may be done for financial gain, to avenge a grievance, from a desire to acquire fame or notoriety, or because of a military, security, insurgent or secret police group’s command to carry out the homicide. Acts of assassination have been performed since ancient times.

    An executioner, also known as a public executioner, is a person who officially inflicts capital punishment ordered by the state or other legal authority, which was known in feudal terminology as high justice.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executioner

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