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    René Magritte The evening gown 1954   • A Hypothesis (Greer) • Fauci Warns Of ‘Worse Variant’ That ‘Could Impact The Vaccinated’ (RT) • 14 Israel
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 9 2021]

    #82994
    Germ
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    #82995
    oxymoron
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    Fauci – Those who remain unvaccinated, Fauci claimed in a Sunday interview with MSNBC, are responsible for the coronavirus mutating.

    Me – don’t make me angry you parasite

    #82996
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    René Magritte The evening gown 1954

    So lovely, so right…

    #82997
    Germ
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    #83000
    oxymoron
    Participant

    The Pfizer contract article makes sense from a conspiracy perspective as far as Dr Martin David (David Martin?) of yea olde bow tie variety suggests with his patent filings. Make the problem, ensure the problem needs addressing, and own the rights/profits to the only solution.
    Also are humans the new built in obsolescence in product lines?

    #83001
    Germ
    Participant
    #83002
    absolute galore
    Participant

    The correlation here is clear enough, and the polling buffers the idea of a real connection. The jump in vaccinations is happening as concern about the virus is rising once again.

    The polling is simply the government and its media agencies tracking the effectiveness of its propaganda campaigns. Remember “15 days to flatten the curve?” We’ve been barraged with fear-inducing messages for a year and a half straight. I wish there were a way to help the unvaxxed who do have access to or know about resources like TAE make a decision based on factual evidence and not the blaring sirens of mass media fear porn.

    At the end of yesterday’s comments I wrote that it seemed like Fauci was setting the table to blame a possible upcoming onslaught on the unvaxxed. The Pfizer announcement posted above, saying that the fight against the virus should include anti-virals (really now?) and not just vaccines, furthers my suspicion that they are trying to paint the unvaxxed as the cause of any new covid waves.

    Dr. Anthony Fauci: “The time has come [when] we’ve got to go the extra step to get people vaccinated.”
    Ah, the “extra step.” Spoken like the true leader of unfree humanity. Who will be following Herr Fauci’s orders to go the extra step? We know most big corporations will be mandating as soon as the FDA finishes up its rigorous, objective, scientific, non-political testing, based on all the meticulous and fine grain data it has amassed over these past 18 months. But what about the military? I suspect a few Republican governors will resist. And some motorcycle riders.

    Call it conformation bias, call it hard-headed knuckle headedness, but the more these dangerous freaks insist I get vaccinated, the harder I dig in and say fux no, freakos.

    My local weekly newspaper has a banner feature across the top of the front page touting some pithy message — Special Fathers Day and Grads Gift Section, or Please Wear A Mask –it’s Not Much To Ask! This week it was Delay Can Be Fatal — Get Vaccinated Now! I guess Fauci called.

    #83003
    Germ
    Participant

    Lunatic Nazi know-it-all

    “I celebrate when I see businesses deciding that they’re going to mandate that for their employees” Collins continued. ”

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/08/08/just-look-data-top-us-health-official-calls-more-vaccine-mandates

    #83004
    chooch
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    #83005
    Germ
    Participant

    I’ll take the bug on the chin rather than the needle in the arm any day.

    Fighting fit!

    #83006
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    My greatest fear is that the galoots will fabricate an emergency of titanic proportions…
    Oh! Wait!
    That’s today!
    My second greatest fear is; we’ll buy it…lock, stock, and barrel…
    The numbers are so corupt as to be to dare to challenge them!!!
    And…here we are…
    Now; how to fight this?
    # First:
    Find the truth; the real deal…then you simply say NO!

    #83007
    those darned kids
    Participant

    i believe ade is why you get dengue worse the second time.

    #83009
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    i believe ade is why you get dengue worse the second time.

    Hmm, I’ve had dengue here in Thailand; there is no vaccine against dengue…just hydration and fluids when you get it…until recovery…
    There are 4 types/levels of infection; having had one, may or may not immunize one against future infection…
    So, how could there be an ade?

    #83011
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    V Arnold – they rolled out a dengue vaccine with some rather bad side effects.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/05/03/719037789/botched-vaccine-launch-has-deadly-repercussions

    #83012
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    “ So, how could there be an ade?”

    I know that dengue is one of the classical examples of a virus associated with ADE following re-infection. It’s what my ex GP friend I wrote about yesterday used to claim that Covid doesn’t have an ADE problem so we don’t need to worry about either the vaccines or booster shots. In which case, why the deuce are doctors like Malone, Fleming, Vanden Bossche and Bhakdi worried about it?

    #83013
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Yesterday I learned that even my young (20s) nieces/nephews are vaccinated. I have one – just one – close family member who is not vaccinated. I am simultaneously heartsick and furious. I wake each morning and think, I can’t do this anymore, but of course we have to, don’t we. I spend a lot of time hoping this thing doesn’t go south. Lately I’ve begun to pray to god to keep these people safe. I don’t know what I would do without TAE and the one close friend I’m able to talk with about this. Thank you, y’all, for helping keep me sane.

    #83014
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    In furtherance of my comments at the end of the last thread: I just reread the excerpt of Greer’s “Hypothesis”, and he does posit a scenario where the authorities blame scariant-variants for the effects of ADE, so maybe it isn’t to early for ADE to start showing itself. And it is starting to show up already, {shudder} then may the Spirit have mercy on us all!

    #83015
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    I also learned yesterday that my [mostly estranged] mother is now having “mini strokes”. I asked about vaccination and, of course, she was. At which point I was told, just shut up about vaccination, it’s not related. I also learned her husband was taken by ambulance to the hospital the other night, suspected of having a “mini stroke”. Again … just shut up. Wasn’t related to the vaccine.

    #83016
    Mister Roboto
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    Again … just shut up. Wasn’t related to the vaccine.

    This is turning into something a lot more noxious than an episode of “The Simpsons”. More like an especially creepy installment of Rod Serling’s The Twilight Zone. What I’m hearing from these very blue states makes me so glad I live in Wisconsin, where a modicum of sanity usually manages to hang on.

    #83017
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    I’m a little nervous sharing this since so many people roll their eyes (or worse) whenever they so much as hear the word ‘homoeopathy.’ If that’s you, scroll to the next comment now.

    Personally, I’ve had very good experiences with Spiroflor – excellent for strained muscles, rub on the night before because I’ve found that the muscle needs to relax for the stuff to work, and the next day it’s either fixed or much better – and Calendulan for grazes and burns. Homoeopathic nose sprays have also worked well for me in the past.

    This is from JMG, use it or don’t it’s entirely up to you, I haven’t tried it yet, so I have no idea if it works, but since I can’t get ivermectin and my entire family (so I sympathise upstateNYer) is now all vaxxed up, I need to have something just in case.

    “George Carey pointed out (in his book The Chemistry of Human Life) that infectious respiratory diseases of the sort that cause lung inflammation could be treated by regular doses of two of the cell salts, Ferrum phos. 6x and Nat. sulph. 6x, four tablets each four times a day under the tongue, or as often as every fifteen minutes in acute cases. He also pointed out that illnesses that affected the epithelial cells lining the blood vessels, and caused problems with blood clots, could be treated by two others, Calc. sulph 6x and Kali mur. 6x, given with the same dosage and frequency.” https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/140923.html

    #83018
    those darned kids
    Participant

    Endemic in over 100 countries, infecting approximately 400 million annually, and its breadth ever increasing, dengue virus (DENV) poses a continuing global health threat. The first infection is typically mild, but secondary infection can result in severe dengue fever and sometimes hemorrhagic fever or shock syndrome. This has been attributed to infection by an antigenically distinct variant (serotype) from the primary infection. Primary serotype antibodies form complexes with the virus in secondary infection but do not effectively neutralize it. As a result, myeloid cells become infected when they phagocytose these complexes through Fc receptor (FcR) interaction with immunoglobulin G (IgG) Fc. This unique process, termed antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), might contribute to the severity of DENV secondary infection but does not completely explain it.

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    my wife is a magnet! here is her list of infections from worsest to bad.
    1) haemorrhagic dengue 2) fauci’s little wonder 3) dengue 4) dengue 5) chicken pox 6) season flu

    she was bitten buy a kissing bug, but thankfully didn’t develop chagas disease.

    #83019
    oxymoron
    Participant

    upstateNYer if you have just one friend outside of TAE to talk to, I recommend you form a group on Signal or some other reasonably safe communications app. If your friend or yourself, think of, or talk to anyone who has concerns or feels the same, welcome them to the group. TAE as the only mechanism for discussion, counsel, intel and sharing is not enough if comms get compromised. Your local is your critical as I can’t share my rice or get drunk with you if shit gets really weird.
    My Signal group is growing here in Central Victoria and we are having Strategy meetings regarding legal, social, privacy and prepping issues as well as a strong focus on kid-jabbing.
    It is important to take a leadership stance in the company of you. I wish you love and support to.

    #83020
    oxymoron
    Participant

    What could go wrong? Snowden is a tin-hat. I’m so glad Apple is monitoring all my images with their robots and policy makers. Time to rethink iOS methinks.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/06/apples-privacy-reputation-is-at-risk-with-new-changes.html

    #83021
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Along with pilots being sidelined in Canada last week (they took an experimental treatment) we have THOUSANDS of flights being cancelled constantly here. See Spirit Airlines. Now the reasons are all over the map, but I don’t think that matters: supply shortages, downed pilots, the system is fraying and indeed ending in one of the pretty big and expensive specialties, just as you would expect.

    China is attacking us again with another goods embargo. How do you like it America, having done it to others for decades. Of course it’s because muh virus, but hardly matters why and they could order it to stay open if they wanted. This is softening us up for later attacks, hollowing us out. And why should they? They’ve been giving us goods for fake money for decades.

    Taking a page from that book, UK has their on-purpose “pingdemic” that shuts down all food among workers who feel just fine, thank you very much. But stay home and starve people anyway. This is happening sporadically among food and distribution warehouses throughout the U.S. but with no reporting, because it’s “The Media” so we have no reporting. Except Kim Kardashian’s -ss. “An actor almost fell down yesterday! But didn’t! News at Eleven!” (This was real, search “Jeffersons”)

    Also no food from drought all the way out to Minnesota, and all the water in California is being used to…wait for it…released into the sea. While no food, and water shortages. And wildfires. And flowing rivers did NOT bring back any fish. …For 30 years in a row now. #Winning. If you didn’t think the 4th horseman was Green Policy you might want to review that now. People dead. Snail Darters? Also dead actually, it didn’t help them either. However, profits among billionaires safe on palatial estates are way, way up. And having massive, unmasked, super spreader parties. At sea level.

    I hear Thailand is showing store closures and shortages. Arnold?

    “What Changes the Unvaccinated Minds? Fear. (CNN)”

    Hahahahahaahaha! Nope. CNN hasn’t noticed yet. THEY’RE the ones changing, i.e. failing, collapsing, bankrupting, vanishing, not we Great Unwashed. You are now drowning in our piss. But they’re from NYU and Yale, so obviously too dumb to know when they’re pissed on and drowning.

    Hilarious. Love it. Keep it up. “To Defeat Delta Variant, Experts Recommend Doing All The Things That Didn’t Work The First Time” –BBee

    Sadly, BBee is now the news and NOT a joke. CNN is the joke. Beclowned.

    “Majority of American Physicians Decline COVID Shots (AAPS)”

    Huh. Just like the CDC. I’m sure there’s no pattern here.

    “I wish there were a way to help the unvaxxed who do have access to or know about resources like TAE”

    They have it. The same illogic, same opportunities as us, as the Doctor yesterday whose friend forwarded him very mild issues with The Narrative. They violently refused.

    “Fauci: “The time has come [when] we’ve got to go the extra step to get people vaccinated.”

    The Extra Step. The Final Solution. Guess what? They telegraphed this, as in this quote, then yesterday Ol’ Joe reversed and said, “Ain’t happenin’, no never.” Hmmm…and why is that Ol’ Joe? Because they talked to the military, who won’t do it, and the police ALREADY can’t do it, they defunded and half won’t take it, and half the CDC, half the Doctors, a third of the nurses, half that nation won’t do it. So who’s a-gonna do it Joe? You and the Little Red Hen?

    They floated the trial balloon and found out they CAN’T do it, and if they try, not only will that fail, but they’ll be exposed as powerless, whose edicts and laws mean nothing. You know: the Truth. So go on, Tony, I double-dog dare you.

    NAC: they Lost, lost lost, as the idiot son losing losers they are to stop vitamins and supplements, #3 after universal (non) health care, electronic medical records to recommend Assange get an “accidental” overdose, removal of guns and all legal self-defense (protecting us from them and their MS-13 mercenaries). Fail. Fail. Fail. Americans wouldn’t budge but they’re still at it.

    NBC:
    “’It is scary’: Doctor say unvaccinated households driving spike in kids with Covid” “Scary”? Wow, how technical. Let me count the lies.

    “Earth’s energy imbalance removes almost all doubt from human-made climate change”
    With private jets being tax-free everyone still has lots of doubts, most of all other scientists. Antarctica is colder than usual right now, as was Texas and Europe.

    “‘Irreversible’ change to Atlantic currents could drastically change Earth’s weather” Could. But 40 years of failure later haven’t at all.

    “Florida judge allows cruise line to require proof of vaccination despite state ban” Illegally. Where every vaxxed cruise ship gets infected anyway, proving more perfectly than I ever could.

    “’Delta is different’: Health experts issue warning regardless of vaccination status” Vaccines don’t work. According to them.

    So because NBC/CNN failed in every way, even fear failed in every way, “Experts Recommend Doing All The Things That Didn’t Work The First Time” –BBee

    Rinse repeat until completely discredited, and thereafter arrested for mass-murder. Like Cuomo. Bye Bye.

    Six days to 8/15/1971

    #83022
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Polder – I’ve used homeopathic remedies for over 20 years. Thank you for the info. Will order those recommended if I don’t have them here already.

    #83023
    Germ
    Participant

    Fantastic video!

    #83024
    zerosum
    Participant

    What does Iran think of the “booster shot”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-14-israelis-have-caught-covid-19-despite-receiving-booster-shot/

    Report: 14 Israelis have caught COVID-19 despite receiving booster shot
    8 August 2021,

    The network says 11 of those infected are over the age of 60 — two of whom have now been hospitalized — while the other three got their third dose because they are immunocompromised.
    ————-
    What does the USA think of India’s success?

    • Prophylactic Role of Ivermectin in SARS-CoV-2 Infection (Cureus)
    Conclusion
    Two doses of oral ivermectin (300 µg/kg/dose given 72 hours apart) as chemoprophylaxis among HCWs reduced the risk of COVID-19 infection by 83% in the following month. Safe, effective, and low-cost chemoprophylaxis has relevance in the containment of pandemic alongside vaccine.
    ———-
    What does CNN think of the survivability of Trump who has natural immunity?

    • Covid-19 Survivors May Possess Wide-ranging Resistance To The Disease (Emory)
    The study suggests that patients who survived COVID-19 are likely to also possess protective immunity even against some SARS-CoV-2 variants.
    ——–

    #83025
    zerosum
    Participant

    Wild fires, world wide, are increasing the density of homeless people living under the overpass.

    #83026
    zerosum
    Participant

    Work smarter, not harder.
    ( Let/get someone else do it)

    #83027
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @oxy, thank you for the advice on signal. I’ll look into it (haven’t ever used any app). I have rice, but could surely use the company to get drunk with. 😉

    I don’t recommend using iCloud or any cloud storage. My current (and previous) iPhones have spent years telling me to finish setting up by creating a cloud account. Have never done it.

    #83028
    Dr. D
    Participant

    JMG’s synopsis of CV is totally objective, passionless, and correct as usual. We disagree only in that although the LOWER levels of bureaucracy, incompetence, and graft all are accidental and don’t know, yet my perception is there remains a higher level that is well aware and exploits these weakness while fighting tirelessly to keep these failures not reformed and well-entrenched year after year to exploit them again after.

    If you were them, or read their own papers: Too many people, Gates (for one) says he is LOWERING population with vaccines, etc, and their power and fortunes depend on this. Clearly they are the same profiteers of causing wars so death means nothing to them, and we have a long line of history saying they did. So it’s no stretch at all to say they exist and use the incompetence, grouptthink, and graft we see at our level to kill millions on purpose and say “Oops! I did it again.”

    Because if they were mad, if this bother them at all, wouldn’t they fix it once in a while?

    #83031
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    A suggested exercise: list your confirmation biases.

    A dare: share them here.

    A request to others: critique them, fairly, kindly but bluntly (which places the onus on the lister as much as the critique, as is only fair-and-balanced). Lessons in both critical thinking and ego detachment avail.
    Note: doing so will require considerable patience and forbearance.

    ^&*

    “JMG’s synopsis of CV is totally objective, passionless, and correct as usual. We disagree only in that although the LOWER levels of bureaucracy, incompetence, and graft all are accidental and don’t know, yet my perception is there remains a higher level that is well aware and exploits these weakness while fighting tirelessly to keep these failures not reformed and well-entrenched year after year to exploit them again after.”

    I agree, with this caveat: many of the elites (a category with overlap but still quite distinct from TPTB) prefer to view their actions as “humanitarian” if mostly from a “tough love” perspective. In fact, this may especially be true with the ones who were seduced and entrapped into doing vile evil things to young living things while whacked out of their gourds on Spice Island drugs: their need to hide from what they’ve done would naturally love a protective smoke-screen.

    “Because if they were mad, if this bother them at all, wouldn’t they fix it once in a while?”

    Does not compute: they are mad. Truly mad people rarely fix things, and if so, mostly by accident, like the lunatic in The Stand who takes out Dah Debbil with a nuke.

    As I like to say: Politics are just an extension by other means.

    #83032
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    A lot of this showing up in my Ytube very recently:

    New Age Prophecies etc.

    And this:

    Nam Vet vs Transgender

    #83034
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    ‘Politics are just an extension OF WAR by other means.’

    #83035
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “We have Zero Years Left to Avoid Dangerous Climate Change” –CNN

    Welp, guess we’re all dead then. Again. And boy were they wrong! AOC and Greta both promised us at LEAST 12 more years. I’ve been cheated. So can they shut up now, or what? Shock of my life, last same old article I read pointed out China existed and was a major polluter. Not li’l old China and India as we’ve been saying for 25 years now! As our manufactures are far more efficient, careful, and ecological than theirs? And also don’t use slaves?

    “’I didn’t think that I was JUST going to be killed’: Ocasio-Cortez on her Fears on Jan. 6” –CNN (The Irrational Fantasy Fear Network)

    Speaking of AOC, Ted Cruz and Nancy Pelosi’s love child. Someone who was 1 mile away and 2 hours early. Funny how she knew this was all going to happen later that day! Once she realized, she back-projected how she MIGHT have been scared if only she had known! Common sense really. And wasn’t bothered by the fake bomb scare just that hour! …The scare from the bomb-guy who is still missing, while being on 100 cameras all evening?

    They finally found one of those rascally rebels tho’: The #1 Son of Federal Judge Emmet Sullivan. Yes! Strangely, apparently he’s a MAGA-insurrectionist! Not a guy wearing a red hat and wrecking things on T.V. then getting let off by the FBI, while they blame Cleetus! No no no. Of course not. Like the CNN reporter who got $70k to beak in and say “I can’t believe we got them to do this” on camera, and the FBI agent’s son, and the guy with the Communist Tattoo in the photo-op, all guarded and proctored by Capitol Police who refused reinforcements. Nope. Why you looking at me like that? Why’s everyone so suspicious? Can’t a Judge who railroaded Flynn when both the Prosecutors AND the Federal Judiciary oversight specifically ordered him not to, be a foaming MAGA Pro-Trump guy? Sheesh.

    Anyway, AOC: NOT there. Judge Sullivan and the FBI: WAS there. D.C. bomber, on camera for hours? Still missing, along with every FBI investigator ever hired. Every laptop still missing, every policeman involved now dead. That is not suspicious at all. “Full Faith and Confidence.” I’m sure it’ll be fine.

    What’s it all about, Alfie? “Report: Something Bad Must Be Happening with Democrats as CNN Homepage Is Filled with Trump Articles” -BBee But what? Everything’s going so swimmingly. I mean only the vaccine doesn’t stop the disease, CDC says passports don’t work, Joe can’t give orders or get anything done, the market’s about to crash, Newsome’s being removed, and Cuomo’s being ‘arrested’ to dodge mass-murder. But other than that, what could it be?

    #83036
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    About that A Hypothesis essay by Greer: … yes, most bleak version to date I have read! One nagging thought, however, a puzzle: … Why would the U.S. – a hegemony – contract out a again-of-function research to China – an adversary? Contract that, to large extent, has been financed out of DOD budget.

    This makes no sense whatsoever,… unless there was some very insidious, sinister plan behind it all,… like pinning some undesirable ‘worldly’ event on China? Dunno, … but my mind can think of at least one plausible scenario.

    Best,
    F.S.

    #83037
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    NETHERLANDS PRIME MINISTER CAUGHT LYING

    Watch as a new Dutch civil servant & politician, Gideon Van Meijeren, skillfully outs his Prime Minister regarding his connection to WEF’s Klaus Schwab, and his approval of the ‘Great Reset.’ Grab some popcorn and enjoy this gem!

    https://thehighwire.com/videos/netherlands-prime-minister-caught-lying/

    #83040
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “About that A Hypothesis essay by Greer: … yes, most bleak version to date I have read! One nagging thought, however, a puzzle: … Why would the U.S. – a hegemony – contract out a again-of-function research to China – an adversary? Contract that, to large extent, has been financed out of DOD budget.

    This makes no sense whatsoever,… unless there was some very insidious, sinister plan behind it all,… like pinning some undesirable ‘worldly’ event on China? Dunno, … but my mind can think of at least one plausible scenario.

    Best,
    F.S.”

    My answer: bankster pattern as old as Rome in the time of Jesus: having sucked its host dry, the banksters move on to their next target: China. Been happening since Nixon, some say, and certainly since Clenis.

    China will of course eat them alive, but this happens to banksters a lot. Russia already showed them the door and more recently, a Great Big (hypersonic) Fist.

    Why would a government pass legislation allowing its core economy to be shipped overseas? That fait accompli is not only done, even well-done, but close to being burnt to a crisp. Hence all the dark smoke and clouded vision.

    #83042
    Mr. House
    Participant
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