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    Pablo Picasso Portrait of the artist’s mother 1896   • Russia Is Developing World’s First Covid19 Antidote, 99% Effective (RT) • China Approves S
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    #67482
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Kudos for that Calvin & Hobbes; so spot on for our times; in so many ways…

    Pablo Picasso Portrait of the artist’s mother 1896

    That’s a gorgeous portrait of Picasso’s mother as well…

    #67483
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Dear Mr. Meijer,

    Thank you for all the hard work.
    Happy New Year to you and to all those who live in your heart.

    To the commentariat:
    May yours be a year with no fear.

    Cheers

    #67484

    That’s a gorgeous portrait of Picasso’s mother as well…

    He was 15.

    #67485
    Basseterre Kitona
    Participant

    the world’s first direct-acting antiviral antidote if clinical trials are successful.
    According to Veronika Skvortsova, the head of FMBA, studies thus far have shown it is more than 99% effective.

    Well, firstly I’m always skeptical of what they mean by “99% effective.” If that means that they are giving it to 100 patients with sars-cov-2 infection and the drug clears them of the infection shortly thereafter…then bravo! because that is really great news.

    And oh how fun it would be to see all of the big pharma vaccine pundits’ heads explode if the Russians—of all people!—were the ones to do it 🙂

    Might be the best news that I’ve heard in years: a Russian drug to end coronavirus threat and presumably end the Russia! Russia! Russia! fear mongering too. And oddly enough acts as a mirror of the sinking feeling that I had last New’s Years as the first news of the Wuhan Flu creeped into western consciousness.

    Been a hell of a trip around the sun this time. Happy New Year everybody !

    #67488
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    He was 15.

    I can only imagine………..
    …and barely even that…

    #67489
    John Day
    Participant

    @My Parents Said Know: Yep, cacti grow fine in Texas. Lots of people have xerascaped yards.
    You can eat “nopales”, certain cactus “leaves” https://www.mexicoinmykitchen.com/nopales-easy-mexican-recipe/
    I have eaten them out of politeness, but I don’t seek them out.
    Citrus trees hybridize pretty wildly, so you don’t really know what seedlings will grow, until they do.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0166969
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangor
    https://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/tangelo.html

    #67490
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Something to consider before you ring up the ICU nurses

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/uk-woman-arrested-filming-inside-empty-hospital

    #67491
    John Day
    Participant

    We now know that SARS-CoV-2 virus was spreading in the US from June 2019. The military-industrial-security-propaganda-complex had to control the rise of cases, to make it fit their curves and narrative. This was done by grossly limiting the number of available tests and only testing the sickest people.

    “The Centers for Disease Control utterly botched the initial testing regime, sending out bogus tests to state and local health departments and taking a month and a half to do what the Thai government achieved in one day. The Food and Drug Administration helped turn the coronavirus from a deadly peril into a national catastrophe.

    Long after foreign nations had been ravaged and many cases had been detected in America, the FDA continued blocking private testing. The FDA continued forcing the nation’s most innovative firms to submit to its command-and-control approach, notwithstanding the pandemic.”

    #67492
    zerosum
    Participant

    I got mine.
    I don’t care if you don’t get yours
    Wake up! The lalaland dream is over

    The Year in which Comforting American Myths Were Ravaged


    The Year in which Comforting American Myths Were Ravaged
    James BovardJames Bovard
    – December 30, 2020

    “…. the collapse of the broader myth that the rulers and ruled have common interests
    Another myth that perished in 2020 was that social media and the Internet could be a powerful propellant of free information.”

    ——-
    Last act –
    Trump forced everyone, (who never cared), to learn how the American democracy is suppose to works.

    Missouri Republican Sen. Josh Hawley said Wednesday he will object when Congress counts the Electoral College votes next week, which will force lawmakers in both the House and Senate to vote on whether to accept the results of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

    #67493
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    From recently published “Psychiatry Research”:

    Alcohol dependence during COVID-19 lockdowns


    https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0165178120333370-gr1_lrg.jpg


    https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0165178120333370-gr2_lrg.jpg

    “…The AUDIT [Alcohol Use Disorders Identification Test] is a brief 10-item questionnaire with scores ranging from 0 to 40, that focuses on hazardous alcohol consumption… a total score of 8 or above is often considered evidence of hazardous or harmful use of alcohol, 15 or above is widely accepted as suggestive of probable alcohol dependence…. while a score of 20 or higher is indicative of severe alcohol dependence…”

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0165178120333370

    I looked at that alcohol screening questionnaire (AUDIT). Ten questions, with a score of up to 4 points per question. As an example, for the question “How often do you have five or more drinks on one occasion?” the answer “Daily or almost daily” gets 4 points.

    #67494
    Noirette
    Participant

    UK officials announced Tuesday that they would prioritize getting people their first doses of coronavirus vaccines instead of holding enough to ensure they can get a second dose on time. (..) The idea is to boost the number of people getting vaccinated with the country’s initial supply of the Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine. (..)

    Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine is supposed to be given as two injections 21 days apart. The new guidelines allow people to wait up to 12 weeks between receiving their first and second doses.

    from Business Insider (not paywalled from here so?) https://bit.ly/3pBELoh

    This supposed super-sophisticated innovative vaccine (aka gene therapy? total scam?) with all its difficult-to-follow directives, storage temp, time constraints, manipulation at injection site, etc. in a protocol that is supposed to be rock solid — is blithely junked for some kind of random first jab, followed by who-knows-what, probably nothing.

    I’m guessing Pfizer has cashed in, so the ‘vax’s’ semi ‘failure’ or ‘relative success’ or whatever soft formulation, will be attributed to:

    — ppl refusing it – not enough ppl taking it, 50% loss (or so) at second dose – the fault of human psychology not Pfizer

    > due in part to media, social media, conspiracists, who hyped horrible effects of irrelevant unconnected individual problems

    — dispensers not doing their job – roll-out too complicated for them, not properly planned for. not following the laid-down protocol (as GB now), the fault of health services not Pfizer

    — ‘vax’ not adjusted to new ‘strain’ (i.e. variant), this corona virus ‘mutates too fast’

    other / BS /

    In any case drug cos. are not responsible for deleterious effects, that falls to States, who are not liable, but may ‘compensate.’ (Europe.)

    #67495

    C and H: Actually, it is more beautiful when you put on your boots, bundle up and go walk about in the sparkly night. (You get to return to the toasty interior!) I often think of moving to the warmer climes but I would miss the many pleasant, frigid worlds of a Minnesota winter.

    Thanks John Day- I’ll start feeding the trees again to see if I can get them to bloom at the same time- I’m quite curious to see what they might produce. It was a National Geographic that showed me the world of citrus. I see now it was not comprehensive.

    #67496
    Geppetto
    Participant

    Check the comments on the Dan Cohen article about the Jimmy Dore ‘cancel’ attack from Sean Ryan.

    All the best in 2021 AEarthnauts!

    #67497
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “…the sheer scale of Wednesday’s Democratic surrender was truly a sight to behold…”

    Very much so, not that I watched.

    ^&*

    Why the Scottish woman was arrested for filming an empty hospital ward is one thing. Before covid, she might well have been arrested for reasons related to the ancient War on Terror and Civil Liberties. So that aspect remains ambiguous to me. That the video remains online is another thing. I am curious to see what happens to it.

    The latter (video remaining online) intrigues me. The former fits in with the blindness that power confers on its recipients: “It’s the law!”

    Bailiff, whack her peepee. She is a naughty girl.

    ^&*

    As for nuclear reactors, the crime is less that they want to extend operating licenses for older reactors than that we have proven unable to improve our nuclear power engineering to the place that Russia has. Like almost everything in modern Western culture, things are no longer made for their actual utility or material value but for the money some sneeze-rag can make off the process. Anything worth having these days is too expensive to properly make (except by some artisans, especially wealthy ones). A culture based on money uber alles cannot maintain material standards of any kind, not even in its favorite areas of accomplishment like digital technology and weapons systems. Brand-new ferroconcrete construction today looks like 1930s/40s/50s concrete construction after 70-90 years of wear. Ironically, it is probably safer in America to use 80-100 years old nuclear reactors than newly built reactors.

    One way or another, our declining energy platform will involve nuclear power or will cease to be a platform. That is, if we do anything other than let things fall apart in the name of digital currency in plutocrats’ bank ledgers. It increasingly looks like we will do the latter.

    Interestingly, Russia too is flirting with possible disaster:

    “Eleven of Russia’s reactors are of the RBMK 1000 type, similar to the one at Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. Some of these RBMK reactors were originally to be shut down but have instead been given life extensions and uprated in output by about 5%. Critics say that these reactors are of an “inherently unsafe design”, which cannot be improved through upgrades and modernization, and some reactor parts are impossible to replace. Russian environmental groups say that the lifetime extensions “violate Russian law, because the projects have not undergone environmental assessments”.[17]”

    That said, I agree with Isaac Azimov’s assessment back in the 70s/80s: that the risks of not having enough power are far worse than the risks of even a full meltdown. We’re a society based on widely available affordable energy via our electrical power grid. When such a society crumbles, as is ours, nothing is safe. People will break into power plants to steal stuff or just break things. When things are in decline, the masses generally turn sour and start breaking everything that doesn’t seem worth stealing. Russia, having fresh memory of a collapse only 30 years old, and historical knowledge of the fin de siecle troubles of the Russian Revolution, understands that the risks of socioeconomic instability can cause collapses that make even the fictional China Syndrome seem ok.

    It’s the same logic by which responses, to whatever baseline biological risk covid presents, too often prove more dangerous and destructive than the known baseline biological risks.

    Not to mention that fossil fuels, while not especially radioactive, have proven capable of producing what looks to be a major extinction event while operating with relative safety.

    $%^

    Also: “It’s not just the gargantuan price of nuclear power, and the preferability economically today of green, renewable energy led by solar and wind…” No one in journalism seems able to write error-free articles anymore. What is “the preferability economically today”? Even with the necessary missing commas, it would still be a sentence a person should not be paid to write. How about ‘economic preferability’? Robots make lousy copy editors.

    Never mind that green power as a power-grid platform is NOT economically preferable except in terms of financial swindlery. We don’t expect them to cite honest accurate facts, but maybe they could at least lie intelligibly?

    $%^

    One last thing: sooner or later, a really nasty bug will appear, quite likely released from some biolab. If this happens soon enough after covid for people to remember the fiasco we are currently experiencing, our ability to muster the large-scale cooperation necessary to prevent population decimation will be tragically impaired.

    #67498
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Nothing to see here…….but an excellent listen

    2020: The Year Everything Changed

    #67499
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Too many people lack a toasty interior to return to.

    #67500
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “One last thing: sooner or later, a really nasty bug will appear, quite likely released from some biolab. If this happens soon enough after covid for people to remember the fiasco we are currently experiencing, our ability to muster the large-scale cooperation necessary to prevent population decimation will be tragically impaired.”

    Shut them down then, after 2020 its obv not worth it.

    #67501
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Also worth a mention

    Into the Unknown Region

    #67502
    kultsommer
    Participant

    There is no difference in stubborn refusal showing this painting to “Picasso-deniers” and presenting a mountain of evidence contrary to view and belief for most of the people.

    #67503
    Geppetto
    Participant

    @Madamski

    “Too many people lack a toasty interior to return to.”

    Native cultures invented numerous solutions to that….the fur on the inside thing. A Sprinter van couple told me camping is fun! ….in the toasty interior of their $150,000 rig that is.

    My friend who volunteers for our homeless shelter has observed that the homeless that live on the street are not getting Covid. The ones in the shelters are. Robust immune system? In the long run that has the ‘really nasty bug’ in it, that toasty interior may not be all it’s cracked up to be.

    #67504
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    And how many people answer the AUDIT questions truthfully? My ex, in the midst of raging alcoholism, would have lied through his teeth. He believes in telling people what they want to hear or ought to hear. (He even explains this to our kids — explaining why he just told lies to medical personnel on their behalf. Who are now teens, are perplexed by this logic, and then tell me about it later because it makes no sense to them.)

    “He was 15” That explains the devotion of the portrait. I see it in my teen children. He loved his mother and thought the world of her.

    @ John Day — I hadn’t seen anything indicating Covid in US prior to Dec 2019. Sounds like something worth looking at — do you have links?

    About Jimmy Dore…
    Anyone who watches his program with some regularity can see that Dore is authentic. He gets emotional over issues, and can barely contain his emotion. Carried away with emotion he sometimes overstates or exaggerates and uses expletives…(which is why I don’t watch him as much as I might…can’t confuse my teens about the appropriateness of expletives in the home.)

    #67506
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    “The Pseudo-Left Imperialists Fighting Against Universal Healthcare (MPN)”

    Go Jimmy Dore! Another indie journo on my Patreon list. Here’s hoping this attack by establishment sycophants will help push his subscriber list over the one million mark. As Jimmy often states on his show, his success is because legacy journalists have failed to do their job, leaving him a wide-open field in which to work. Otherwise, he would still be scratching out a living doing standup comedy.

    “The Year in Which Comforting American Myths Were Ravaged (AIER)”

    I was going to point out the myth of “free and fair elections”, but then noticed that the author did give it an honorable mention by pointing out the issues with mail-in ballots. I wish he would have added the voting machine controversy, in which votes are systematically transferred to establishment backed candidates to insure their win. However, in the last election they had so underestimated Trump’s popularity that their machine-based vote transfer scheme had to be heavily supplemented with ballot fraud during the wee hours in order to push Biden over the finish line.

    Happy New Year, everyone! I’m truly grateful for every artwork, cartoon, article, link, and comment that has helped to broaden my understanding.

    #67507
    John Day
    Participant

    @Madamski: Thanks for all that, sister. My ongoing considerations, as I might well live another 30 (I’d be 92) or even more years, and don’t want to be embarrassed by having not set my lines of defense for the family back deeply enough.
    @ Phoenix voice: The Matthew Ehret pieces in this post, toward the end go into US origins of COVID
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/12/still-swimming-in-covid.html
    Testing of saved samples of sewage in the US and of stored blood samples is a thing. All results are classified and must be reported only to the federal task force, all proceedings of which (CDC and DIA) are classified.
    I am free to tell you that a patient of mine, in Austin, nearly died in November-December 2019 in the local teaching hospital, of multi-organ ailure, including lungs, heart and kidneys. The only thing they ever found on testing was nothing, a common-cold, coronavirus. Somehow he lived. By the time I got his discharge records coronavirus WAS a thing (January 2020).
    Back in late May I posted Origins Of COVID
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/05/origins-of-covid.html

    #67508
    John Day
    Participant

    @Phoenix Voice: I also had some information about COVID and Ft Detrick on March 19, in Hybrid War Hypothesis
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/03/hybrid-war-hypothesis.html

    #67509
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Doctor over at Ecosophia writes:

    “I’m rather mystified myself at what I’ve been seeing from other doctors. I’m well aware of your rather jaundiced eye towards the profession, but I guess I still expected a little better. At the largish practice I’m at, many of the doctors are falling over themselves to get the vaccine ASAP. I’ve been my typical iconoclastic self pointing out the lack of testing, same as you mentioned, but it’s mostly in one ear out the other. Amusingly enough, out of well over a dozen medical assistants I’ve spoken to, only one was planning on getting the vaccine, and his justification was essentially he was a guinea pig for Uncle Sam all the time in the military, so it’s nothing new to him. The rest seem to make the connection after seeing hordes of patients their age that for them this is closer to a cold than smallpox cubed, and taking a inadequately tested vaccine with so many unknowns is probably not warranted at this time.

    Kind of the same for treatment options. There’s been an astonishing amount of research recently in support of ivermectin, from countries that I believe to be not coincidentally generally too poor for Big Pharma to have much interest in. I’ve been doing what I remember actually being taught to do and follow the evidence leavened with ethical pragmatism wherever it happens to lead, but I’m still relatively alone in this. What’s overwhelmingly popular among American doctors seems to high priced, rather impractical, experimental treatments that have failed over and over again in actual studies (remdesivir, tociluzumab, convalescent serum, monoclonal antibodies). But, hey, Big Pharma makes a bundle on them, so that’s what their “authoritative sources” tell them to keep using. That’s literally the only explanation I can logically come up with, and it’s incredibly disappointing. I’m sitting here watching them be the stereotypes that critics have long accused them of being.”

    Fitting my view perfectly. I’m just so heart-sick and aghast at where people’s brains have gone to.

    #67510
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Anecdotal, entirely non-medical experience here said people widely had CV back in Dec 19 and Jan. …Long BEFORE any official admission it had arrived here. So it was first in October latest if it’s all over the nation by then? Since no one will believe the CDC’s own numbers and research — see House, above — why bother bringing up the very deep dredgings? Oh, and China who had it first and worst has no none nothing now. Uh-huh, sure they do. The only people on the planet who are Covid-free.

    Since we’re in deep dredgings, IF it was around earlier (easy to prove as we have the samples) THEN why bother to hide it? Why have an impeachment the day of its official arrival? Etc. Only because WE were the cause, or complicit in the cause? But if we were, why would China play along? …I mean besides that they just ethnically-cleansed the city that was most-Christian and set up for most-protests, most-likely to be successful in breaching the state. …And now they’re a model of citizen compliance. So happy.

    #67511
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    The New York Times is reporting some notable adverse reactions to the vaccine, as experienced by medical professionals, with the message that there are “some side effects but no second thoughts.

    “What the Vaccine Side Effects Feel Like, According to Those Who’ve Gotten It”

    Two and a half hours after being injected with a Covid-19 vaccine, Dr. Taneisha Wilson was hit with the worst headache of her life… In her home office in Cranston, R.I., Dr. Wilson, 36, an emergency physician with a constitution she calls “horse-like,” laid her head down on the desk. Fighting a wave of nausea, she let out an involuntary groan loud enough to be heard by her husband in a room down the hall… Dr. Wilson stressed that she had no regrets about getting the shot, despite the headache, which was gone within 36 hours.

    …Some may be mild allergic reactions, like the “body-wide itching” and “mild, small hives along forearm” that Dr. Meagan Hajjar of Farmington, Conn., described in a Facebook post with a video clip. Or they may be more severe, like the handful of cases of anaphylaxis that the C.D.C. has already identified.

    And others may simply be more intense versions of what the trials called “fatigue.” Alyson McGregor, an associate professor of emergency medicine at Brown University and an accomplished home chef, said she spent the day after her vaccination in a mental fog…

    Dr. Harris was up all night with a fever, shivering underneath a blanket, after receiving the first shot. He had joint pain in his wrists and shoulders that lasted into the next day… he posted about his reaction, with the hashtag #stillworthit.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/28/us/vaccine-first-patients-covid.html

    #67512
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Apologies if this quotation about fear has already made the rounds recently, I just ran into it today:

    In one way we think a great deal too much of the atomic bomb. ‘How are we to live in an atomic age?’ I am tempted to reply: Why, as you would have lived in the sixteenth century when the plague visited London almost every year, or as you would have lived in a Viking age when raiders from Scandinavia might land and cut your throat any night; or indeed, as you are already living in an age of cancer, an age of syphilis, an age of paralysis, an age of air raids, an age of railway accidents, an age of motor accidents.’

    In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation. Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was invented: and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant ways.

    We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors—anesthetics; but we have that still. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances… and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.

    This is the first point to be made: and the first action to be taken is to pull ourselves together. If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things—praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts—not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies (a microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds.

    ― C.S. Lewis

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/10190811-in-one-way-we-think-a-great-deal-too-much

    #67513
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Since we’re in deep dredgings, IF it was around earlier (easy to prove as we have the samples) THEN why bother to hide it? Why have an impeachment the day of its official arrival? Etc.”

    Symbolic perhaps? Covid is trumps impeachment? People i speak to when asked what they hate most about trump can’t name a single policy, but blame him entirely for covid.

    #67514
    John Day
    Participant

    I’m honored to have just been added to a listserv of COVID-19 treating physicians.
    A couple of the primaries seem to like my finds and blog.
    I’m on a list with Dr Zelenko and he posted something yesterday.
    I need rock-star hair, now.

    #67515
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “My friend who volunteers for our homeless shelter has observed that the homeless that live on the street are not getting Covid. The ones in the shelters are. Robust immune system? In the long run that has the ‘really nasty bug’ in it, that toasty interior may not be all it’s cracked up to be.”

    Having done my time as a homeless person in all weather extremes, I personally feel that toasty warm interiors are all they’re cracked up to be and more. But modern “air-conditioned cubicles”, to quote Joni Mitchell, are natural bug-spreaders.

    Not to mention that most people avoid the homeless like the plague… in so doing failing to share their plague with the homeless.

    #$%

    @ Dr. D and the ecosophia MD quote: a person close to me works in the therapeutic counseling field. She describes how herd-like they all are, how she has had to keep her head low and just do what she thinks best. She describes how every few years there’s a New Big Thing that is The Answer to the challenge of successful psych healing. Everyone jumps on board, in the process often adopting techniques and attitudes opposite to those of the previous Big Thing.

    So it is refreshing to hear this gentleman’s anecdote.

    We’re monkeys. Monkey see, monkey do.
    ^&*

    @ Doc Robinson:

    On the Defenstration of Fear (money quote at 3:30)

    %^&

    As for the RNA vaccine: how it affects people currently doesn’t much worry me. How it might affect people after a few years of lingering in our chromosomes worries me greatly. If I had time to worry, that is, about yet another human folly enacted on a global genomic scale. Like Kenneth Patchen wrote:

    “So he thinks the world owes him a dying? What’s another little mistake?”

    #67516
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    This article gives some information about the breaches of containment at the Fort Detrick labs during 2019. The article is from the Frederick [Maryland] Post, but I found it posted at the American Military News site, until they took it down for some reason. But the Wayback Machine has an archived copy of the article:

    CDC inspection findings reveal more about Fort Detrick containment breaches

    The Army’s premier biological laboratory on Fort Detrick reported two breaches of containment earlier this year [2019], leading to the Centers for Disease and Control halting its high-level research…

    The two breaches reported by USAMRIID to the CDC demonstrated a failure of the Army laboratory to “implement and maintain containment procedures sufficient to contain select agents or toxins” that were made by operations in biosafety level 3 and 4 laboratories, according to the report. Biosafety level 3 and 4 are the highest levels of containment, requiring special protective equipment, air flow and standard operating procedures.

    Due to redactions to protect against notification of the release of an agent under the Federal Select Agent Program, it is unclear the result of the two breaches…

    The CDC inspected USAMRIID in June, as part of standard regulations that include scheduled and unscheduled visits, according to previous News-Post reporting. The CDC sent a letter of concern on July 12, followed by a cease and desist letter July 15.

    Shortly after, USAMRIID’s registration with the Federal Select Agent Program, which regulates select agents and toxins, such as Ebola or the bacteria causing the plague, was suspended. At the time, USAMRIID was conducting work with Ebola and the agents known to cause Tularemia, the plague and Venezuelan equine encephalitis…

    https://web.archive.org/web/20191202195115/https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/12/cdc-inspection-findings-reveal-more-about-fort-detrick-containment-breaches/amp/

    #67517
    Doc Robinson
    Participant
    #67518
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ John Day:

    You might want to be more specific in that rock star hair request:

    Rock Star Hair

    #67519
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://mrdc.amedd.army.mil/index.cfm/media/articles/2020/ft_detrick_whole_of_government_approach_COVID-19

    Fort Detrick Installation Utilizes Whole of Government Approach to Tackle COVID-19
    USAMRDC and Fort Detrick Public Affairs Offices
    These efforts, as many and varied as they may be, provide just a glimpse into the work being done at Fort Detrick – a relatively small installation in Maryland, actively responding to a global pandemic. One might argue that a more capable, committed team does not exist.

    Last Modified Date: 22-Apr-2020
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    Unambiguous evidence💥 Coronavirus leaked from Fort Detrick CIA lab?
    10,286 views•Mar 16, 2020
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    https://news.yahoo.com/seattle-lab-uncovered-washingtons-coronavirus-053628224.html
    A Seattle lab uncovered Washington’s coronavirus outbreak only after defying federal regulators
    Peter Weber
    March 10, 2020
    Peter Weber
    March 10, 2020

    A lack of test kits for the new COVID-19 coronavirus is still obscuring the extent of the outbreak in the U.S., but for a critical period in February, there were no functional federal tests and “local officials across the country were left to work blindly as the crisis grew undetected and exponentially,” The New York Times reports. The coronavirus has now infected more than 1,000 people in 36 states and Washington, D.C., according to Johns Hopkins University’s count.

    The first U.S. outbreak was in Washington state, where authorities confirmed the first patient — suffering from respiratory problems after visiting Wuhan, China — only after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention made an exception to strict testing criteria. In Seattle, Dr. Helen Chu, an infectious disease expert who was part of an ongoing flu-monitoring effort, the Seattle Flu Study, asked permission to test their trove of collected flu swabs for coronavirus.

    State health officials joined Chu in asking the CDC and Food and Drug Administration to waive privacy rules and allow clinical tests in a research lab, citing the threat of significant loss of life. The CDC and FDA said no. “We felt like we were sitting, waiting for the pandemic to emerge,” Chu told the Times. “We could help. We couldn’t do anything.”

    They held off for a couple of weeks, but on Feb. 25, Chu and her colleagues “began performing coronavirus tests, without government approval,” the Times reports. They found a positive case pretty quickly, and after discussing the ethics, they told state health officials, who confirmed the next day that a teenager who hadn’t traveled abroad had COVID-19 — and the virus had likely been spreading undetected throughout the Seattle area for weeks. Later that day, the CDC and FDA told Chu and her colleagues to stop testing, then partially relented, and the lab found several more cases. On Monday night, they were ordered to stop testing again.
    “In the days since the teenager’s test, the Seattle region has spun into crisis, with dozens of people testing positive and at least 22 dying,” the Times notes. “The scientists said they believe that they will find evidence that the virus was infecting people even earlier, and that they could have alerted authorities sooner if they had been allowed to test.”

    #67520
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Some healthcare workers are resisting the vaccinations and frustrating the authorities:


    Sitting in freezers’: State officials frustrated with vaccine reluctance in rural areas

    …In rural areas, the Georgia Department of Public Health commissioner said, health care workers have been extremely reluctant to take the recently approved coronavirus vaccines while in metro areas, wait lists to be vaccinated are long.

    “Sadly, we’re not getting the kind of uptake of the vaccine by health care workers all over the state… in many parts of rural Georgia — both in the North and South — there’s vaccine available but it’s literally sitting in freezers. That’s unacceptable…”

    https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/news/ga_fl_news/sitting-in-freezers-state-officials-frustrated-with-vaccine-reluctance-in-rural-areas/article_4c3ef16e-4b78-11eb-a944-9bf189aa8413.html

    #67521
    John Day
    Participant

    @Madamski: I was thinking more of Mott The Hoople than Phil Spectre (sp)
    https://ultimateclassicrock.com/mott-the-hoople-mott-album/
    Also: Many homeless patients I have tested have normal vitamin-D levels, also landscapers.

    @Doc Robinson and Zerosum: Yeah, like that!

    #67522
    WES
    Participant

    As the year draws to a close, I have to wonder if the real scandal of 2020 is the “fake” death of the flu?

    #67523
    WES
    Participant

    As for the Democrats quietly folding on the $2,000 stimulus checks, this was no surprise at all.

    (Joe Biden has opposed any stimulas!)

    This was carefully scripted theatre by the Uniparty!

    In return, the Democrats will win the 2 Georgia senate races on January 5th!

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