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kultsommer said
It’s not!
In socialism all production is publicly owned.Publicly owned means government owned. All production is government owned. Government.
Let’s imagine a “publicly owned” system, where each member of the public owns a share in every production organisation. So, time for the annual general meeting, and everybody in the country gets to vote on how to run the company, who should be boss etc. In your world it has to be all voting shares otherwise some would have more power than others. Given the number of companies – thousands – everybody in the country would have to be voting for motions at annual general meetings all day every day, in fact, there would not be any time for production as the public would be so busy voting for what should be happening in production. Obviously this is completely impossible, so “representatives” would have to be elected, and “representatives” are government. So government runs the public companies.
The leaders of the government will try to increase their power at every turn. Socialism helps them to do this, it gives them social responsibilities which grant them power over people. Centralisation and power go together, there is no such thing as public ownership without government. Socialism centralises control which gives the leaders of government even more power, which is why most authoritarian governments are socialists.
Zerohedge is a long time Zionist mouthpiece; ever since they had financial troubles due to the decline in quality of their content. I don’t know who the Tylers are these days, but they probably wear little hats. The weird thing about it is that the comment section is still alive, despite the Tylers writing shitty articles and trying to clamp down on anti-semitism, it is a Zionist-controlled hot bed of anti-semitism.
The Jews are trying to smear the Russians as being just like them; baby killers. It will work on Americans, they have been trying to find an excuse for why they are killing innocent children and their mothers, now they have it; whataboutism. What about the Russians, they do it, cry the Jews. The world can only become a better place when a country stands up and decides to rid the world of Israel, Christianity and Islam. Until then, the evil religions will persist along with their brainwashed sheep.
kultsommer said
We may argue, for ever, of it as being “clumsy” or “stupid”, but it is not about “socialism” – it is about them retaining their top positions without openly saying so.
Of course it is about socialism, that is the definition of socialism; the powerful making the citizens obey and be dependent on the government in order to increase the power of the government leaders. That is exactly what Mao did, all of them in the past, socialism is about moving power to the center, to the few, to the people who will decide how you can live, who have power over your everyday. That is not to say that other forms of authoritarianism do not use socialism to achieve their own goals.
@WES Is it socialism or fascism? The oligarchs run the government, moving Intel to government moves more control of Intel to the oligarchs that run government, but the oligarchs could just buy that 10% instead, so why government? My guess is that this move is to help government implement their Palantir style moves into the future; Trump is big with the tech bros, so this has to have come from them and they will all want a company that can make prototype chips to meet their own plans to run the world through their computers. Using government to buy the companies the fascists need to implement their takeover.
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=65022
Beverly Hills to Display Israeli Flags in Public Schools
Is it time to declare the USA to be a colony of Israel? As with all colonies, the leaders are from the occupying country, the rich are from the occupying country, the ubermenschen race is from the occupying country, the untermenschen are the locals, the complainers and pissed off are also the locals. But who gave their country away to Israel? Who invited in the occupiers, the colonists? Americans are so cowed.
PCR said
As the Russian position remains the same and Zelensky remains uncooperative, perhaps Trump sees Putin getting off his butt and quickly winning the war as the escape route from the box in which Trump finds himself. Perhaps Trump signaled to Putin, as he did to Netanyahu, to get it over with as its continuation is too embarrassing to Trump. Putin’s side of the bargain would be to let Trump grandstand in presiding over the peace agreement that ends the war.
Even broken clocks can be wrong all the time. PCR is still insisting that Putin should have used the shock and awe tactics of the US in Iraq to end the war quickly. Trouble is that Russia is benefitting from dragging the war out, the longer the war lasts the stronger Russia’s position and the more western enemy troops and weapons it is able to destroy at a rate of 100 to 1. Not only that, it is able to fine tune its military, ready for the big war with the USA which appears to be on the horizon.
Why would Putin go for a rapid war? Nato’s EU countries are now talking about buying expensive US weapons and putting boots on the ground in Ukraine. If Putin can destroy all of NATO’s EU armies at a rate of 100 to 1, then he is living the dream, he is removing a generation of threats at very low cost; increasing his chances of winning the big war.
Trump is powerless, he demonstrated that at his meeting with Putin; Trump deferred to Putin in the same way as he deferred to Netanyahu. All Trump seems to be able to do on his own is to apply tariffs to his own people; taxation. Everything else that Trump does is bluster or babooning. The American deep state will cause all sorts of trouble in the foreseable future, but Trump won’t be in control.
https://www.swentr.com/russia/623535-zaluzhny-azov-role-models/
Another Ukrainian puppet willing to sell out his country in return for a career boost from the London Jews; the entire EU is full of them, not a genuine politician in sight, they all serve foreign interests the have no benefit to their voters. The Ukrainians still support this traitor, who will do nothing good for the country, has been part of the war with Russia and is tainted with corruption, like most of Ukraine’s government. Just the next move to put yet another Jew controlled traitor into the top position.
Col Jaques Baud is interesting in that he has this distinction between force and violence, putting lipstick on the pig of force, pretending that force is not just organised violence. Was Vietnam force or violence? Were all the middle east wars force or violence. Governments, and their employees, like to justify their use of violence as somehow superior to other peoples’ use of violence, so they label other people as terrorists and label themselves as the good guys. It is an interesting faux distinction that enables these people to pretend that the violence they used in the past – murders, kidnappings etc – were “force”, hence they were okay, as force is good when used by governments. Violence is the mob, the unruly, the uncoordinated, so if you murder someone in a coordinated fashion you are not being violent, you are using force. Kind of does not make sense when you look at pre-meditated murders in jail; did they use force or violence?
In the cambridge dictionary (yes, they are all corrupted) we have the definition of force as:
physical, especially violent, strength or power:
– The force of the wind had brought down a great many trees in the area.
– She slapped his face with unexpected force.
– Teachers aren’t allowed to use force in the classroom.
– force of numbers The police were able to control the crowd by sheer force of numbers (= because there were more police than there were people in the crowd).We all know that force can only be enforced by acts of violence. The colonel is trying to excuse his own sordid past.
The UK wastes money on the Ukraine because their billionaires, such as the Rothschilds, control the top politicians. The billionaires make a mint, but the tax payers then go through austerity to pay for these billionaire scams. The UK is covered in this sort of shit, London is the corruption capital of the world.
I left the UK a quarter of a century ago because I hated the government and almost everybody I met. The entire set up is horrible; a gullible populace votes for their own downfall, they are addicted to the BBC, will believe anything a celebrity might say, all the while the city of London made life easy for foreign billionaire criminals to hang out in safety, the argument being that the billionaire money creates jobs. Of course, the politicians and upper class (the elite lord and ladys, all prostitutes) are then assisted by said billionaires. The population then wonders why nothing works, but are still convinced that they are the only country with a health service; what they don’t know is that other countries have a “functioning” health service.
What a shit fest; anyway, apparently it is now worse … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5aJ-57_YsQ
https://t.me/Anlystintel/26945
Zaluzhny is secretly preparing for the presidential election.
I wonder who is providing the shekels for his campaign …. same boss, different puppet.
China and Russia do not just send pedophiles home to rape again another day; sent home by Trump. USA stinks and worse is to come; hard times for the USA citizens as they will soon be siffering financially from excess inflation and tariff taxes.
aspnaz said
PCR makes it clear that Putin may well be controlled by ((them)), as stated by Celticbiker.
I do not agree with this view point, I think it is more complicated, I had my doubts after Syria, but am not convinced. It is interesting to hear PCR’s view given how critical he has been of Putin’s special military operation and how he didn’t do shock and awe. PCR also thinks we are on the verge of nuclear war, another prediction I do not see as a possibility.
Interesting take on how the outcome of the Putin-Trump meeting, as told by Witkoff, is simply not possible.
Boogaloo said
If you are a saver, you can avoid getting screwed if you save in hard money — gold or Bitcoin, or a combination of both.
Bitcoin is “hard money”? You are an idiot.
The shit-fest that is America. Always judge a country by how they treat their least powerful. Israel and the USA are in the same sad category not only of don’t give a fuck about them, but also of actively making their lives more depraved and meaningless.
Trump the peace president? He can stop the Gaza killings today without any third-party agreement, but doesn’t, he could have avoided the war on Iran, but didn’t, in his first term he could have stopped the rearming of Ukraine ready for the war on Russia, but didn’t, now he has spoken to Putin about Ukraine, suddenly he is the peace president? Even a toddler’s thinking is not this stupid.
John Day said
Brandon Smith throws this cricket to the chickens: The Butker Principle: Is America Better Off Without Women In The Workforce?
Which argues that feminism and the other isms are basically founded in population control. That is one perspective, but here is another from https://revisesociology.com/2014/02/10/marxist-perspective-family/
This document states
Marxists argue that the nuclear family performs ideological functions for Capitalism – the family acts as a unit of consumption and teaches passive acceptance of hierarchy. It is also the institution through which the wealthy pass down their private property to their children, thus reproducing class inequality.
The obvious attempts at destroying family values in the west, are these attempts due to eugenics and population control or, as jb-hb would attest, is it part of the Marxist takeover of the west? I don’t know, I suspect it is a mixture of both, but this is another significant change that has happened to the west.
jb-hb said
but it’s kind of beside the point, how are the leftists saying leftist things doing leftist things not leftist due to moved industry?
Significance; leftists are always doing shit, many are idealists, but what matters is how that shit directly impacts other people, hos significant it is. I am pointing to the major changes in the USA, the macro moves, not the fact that some leftist objects to you calling him a fag etc, that is insignificant. If the USA is being steered towards Marxism, the large moves, the ones that change the lives of Americans and others, must also be Marxist? Is that not correct? The petty shit does not matter, it is just annoying,
A left leaning website using dodgy data from the US government, but what else do we have? Just scroll down to the graphs of participation rate.
https://cis.org/Report/WorkingAge-Not-Working-1960-2024
I am very interested in how, in all western societies, the participation rate is falling; noticeably it is falling most among the working class and less among the middle class. I am trying to work out how this is due to Marxism and why the Marxists would want this. My understanding of Marxism is that the exploitation of workers is considered bad, but what does the decline in participation mean in Marxist terms? Why would the Marxists do this if they care about all of society? Surely this is just increasing the gap between rich and poor. Although this policy is obviously successful, I am struggling to see how it fits into the framework of Marxism.
@jb-hb Are you saying that the USA business class moved industrial production to China as part of a Marxist plot? Were they so enamoured of Marxism that they moved production to a different country, a Marxist country? So it was nothing to do with capitalism?
When Reagan oversaw the move from an industrial economy to a financial economy, was this also part of the Marxist takeover of the USA? That one move exacerbated the wealth gap, is still increasing the wealth gap, it also increased dependence on government, increasing the power of government. Was this also part of a Maxist plot, and if so, why did Reagan go along with it?
What about the moral decline of the USA and the introduction of AI to take over jobs? Is this the end of the “exploitation of labour” that Marx was talking about with his communist society? Is the USA now closer to a “communist society” than it was 50 years ago?
Okay, the links died:
Missing links:
1. https://investors.wiki/bitcoin-mining
2. https://www.gate.com/learn/articles/top-10-bitcoin-mining-companies/6437
3. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/bitcoin-mining-by-countryFrom yesterday, ₿oogaloo said:
I really do not understand your criticism.
Read this article
It may help you understand why bitcoin mining is not open to everybody, which is why the vast majority of bitcoin mining is done by a very few massive companies who can afford the equipment needed …. see the similarity with mining, forestry, etc. Another article…
Bitcoin mining is totally under the control of your government; China has banned it. Oh, here is another visual for your “distributed system”.
Of course it is a ponzi scheme, one using modern technology, there is nothing backing bitcoin, it depends entirely on the demand from future investors; it is wasted energy used to give people the impression of an investment vehicle. But actually it is just another fiat currency, but without the backing of a country’s economy, so actually it is simply empty. People refer to the stock market as a ponzi scheme in that it is totally over priced, but at least there are companies behind it; bitcoin survives because there is so much cash floating around and so few places to invest it in constructive activities.
Unlike real assets, like gold, iron, oil, forestry etc, all your government has to do is close down bitcoin on the internet and your dreams are ended. Your government can do the same with real assets, no difference. You, as an individual can use bitcoin, but you do not have the power to mine bitcoin, just like gold, oil, forestry etc. As for distributed, that just is not the case.
Trump is part of the evil Jewish empire, enforced by the USA. The people of the USA, all racists, prefer white Jews to brown muslims, so they murder the muslims and feel good about it …. except that a lot of these Muslims are actually Christians, but that’s okay, they are darkies so deserve to die. The USA government and citizens are the dregs, but we now can all see that, happy times.
Topcat said:
The real question is, what causes prosperity?
Prosperity is achieved by employing people for less than value, you then take the difference. The deal is enforced by government, they back up thr employers’ low wage policy. Did you think billionaires just “work really hard, or really clever”? No, they all get there with help from their owners … billionaires arr not the top level… get that in your head!
Steve Kirsh (or whatever his name is) said:
Can you identify a single apology from any member of any of these groups?
An apology? Someone kills your sibling and you are looking for an apology? So wet, sooooo gay …. shouldn’t this guy have Covid cancer like the cartoon guy? Hang on, I stand corrected, here comrs Dr D’s white hats ….. just kidding… Retard D is elsewhere.
Celticbiker said
Don’t worry, D’s White Hats are going to save you at the last minute, just like a kosher movie.
I think the white hats got lost somewhere, Dr D says they have been coming to save us for many a year, but they still haven’t been seen. Maybe Superman will step in instead and get the job done.
Boogaloo said
At least we can say that Bitcoin is a fair system. Everyone who holds it either bought it or put in the effort to go out and mine it. That’s unlike virtually every other asset in our modern fiat financial system.
Yeah sure, that’s why it’s called mining, because it is so different to, say gold, silver, iron, oil, coal, forestry, real estate etc etc and basically every thing else. You obviously got the Ponzi scheme hype real bad. Fiat bad, bitcoin fantastic; same game, different crowd.
Topcat said
Californicate, We’ve Got You Covered!
Is that a fake image or is that really all there is to show for the high speed rail project? Obviously, with that amount of money being spent, there are plenty of swimming pools, yachts, overseas holiday homes etc to show for the project, but is there anything more that the public gets, other than that concrete monstrosity.
Germ said
A Bill Gates backed company is now producing butter with no animals, no plants, and no oils — it’s made from carbon.
Bill Gates was a much better entrepreneur when his mother worked for IBM and stole their PC DOS on his behalf, then his father, who worked for the Fed provided him with capital investment. Left to his own ideas, this creep is the dregs, like the total dregs, murdering people in India to prove that his vaccines are shit, then what with his “Beyond Eggs” catastrophe (an egg has to be the easiest thing to impersonate, from a food perspective … though it will never taste the same) to this latest bollocks of a product that only a retard would produce. If only his parents were still alive to direct his endeavours, instead we have the trust fund kid gone wild.
Topcat said
Women will be having more sex with robots than men by 2025
How the fuck would we ever know why that bitch ain’t shaggin anymore if it wasn’t for The Sun.
Celticbiker said
Can anyone here,anyone, explain to me how these fuckin jews can commit genocide for 2 fucking years and the whole world, other than Yemen doesn’t do fuck all about it?
I know, it is fucking weird, for example, why hasn’t the pope condemned the Christian evangelicals? He’s an American, he knows the score with the Scofield (as true as the Holocaust) bible, he knows what is going on, yet the Pope and his flock of inbreds stand around like the world is not their home and their religion is not slaughtering people. Just goes to show how the elites perceive – apparently correctly – how weak and amoral the western population has become.
My theory on Israel is that it was created so that Jewish billionaires could commit crimes that they could not commit under their own names as citizens of other countries. My theory is still rock solid as you notice that the world’s billionaires all do the Jewish religious homage bullshit in Israel, they also support Israel for no other aparent reason, it is almost as if Israel is the holy mecca for billionaires.
Once the elite billionaires have destroyed democracy, they will become kings and there will be no need for Israel; we are 90% of the way there, Gaza seems to be a trial run for something bigger. However, having said that, Israel may still provide a useful tool for the billionaires to assassinate people anonymously, without any comeback …. the citizens just say “Oh it was Mossad” as if that is okay, as they did with 9/11, then continue sucking jew dick, like RIM does with Trump.
Why do the leaders not rise up against Israel? Because they were all appointed by Israel and their elite associates; the billionaires club. The public never has a chance to select a party representative, that is for the party, and the party needs money to run, so the elites control the cash tap and the selections. Nobody is going to get into politics without their say so, Trump being the most obvious pretend boss. Biden was also a pretend boss, but he lost the mental capability to follow the script; Trump still seems to be able to follow the script although he got a biot lost on the Russia peace deal, I guess he is feeling his age. If Trump’s memory gets any worse, the policies will continue but he will not be involved in the theatre show.
In a way the world has reverted to tribalism, a few rich tribal leaders at the top, they own all the levels below. The likes of Musk, owned by billionaires above him, same with other billionaires. Africans and Jews can tell you how this works out, they are the tribalists of the current world.
phoenixvoice said
I gotta admit…I get wierded out by men who are either militantly for or against abortion.
So we can now look forward to you having no opinion about wars (a man’s sport) or the POTUS (also still a man’s sport) or fatherhood (also a man’s sport) or porn (also a man’s sport) or any other things that men do, because you don’t have a dick, so you don’t get an opinion.
RIM is high on the kool aid.
Trump a man of peace? Those days are long gone, remember he promised peace within 24 hours, since then tens of thousands of Ukraine men have died, he is still killing those in Gaza, his evangelical fan base is still funding mercenaries for the Gaza genocide, he is still responsible for Israel attacking Iran and the Houthis. This man also helped with the Ukraine build up (prior to the Russia response) and tried to kill us all with his vaccine, but RIM calls him a man of peace? Like Netanyahu is a man of peace?
If Trump is offering peace – and the losers will always eventually offer peace, it is inevitable – then his owners have decided that there is nothing to be gained in continuing to degrade Russia, or they have something to offer Putin and desperately want Putin to take the offer … a trap.
For RIM to praise the loser for offering peace after letting so many people die in war and losing so much of their land is ridiculous. Maybe RIM is now a fan of Hitler, for offering peace at the end of WW2? Or Hirohito in Japan for surrendering after the atomic bombs? Ridiculously childish, and this extra post because RIM is so excited is sickening; RIM the toddler.
You have to wonder what delivery system the Israelis have to deliver their nuclear weapons. As they do not have any missile technology capable of such a task – we know this from watching their attack on Iran and the performance of the Iron Dome – so you have to assume that they will use F35s to drop the bombs – gravity bombs – onto the target. Of course, in true Israel style, they could smuggle them into the target country and detonate them. Of course, with Trump in office, the USA will probably beg to provide Israel with cruise missiles to deliver the weapons, although those missiles will probably end up being inferior to the job at hand.
phoenixvoice said
Why is it that those who hate Trump assume that anyone who doesn’t hate Trump must love Trump?
Because humans are a herding animal, they have a herding instinct, they want to know whether you are in their herd or not. Simple tests, such as your hatred of Trump, are an easy and quick way to judge you. The herding instinct saves them from “not belonging” which their mental insecurities would find intollerable.
@Citizenx, from your link to “Why Lockdowns Work”:
Lockdowns in and of themselves, when properly executed, cannot NOT work, simply because of the way viruses spread.
and
The lockdown is useful, make that inevitable, because it prevents further spread of a deadly virus from one host to another.
Both these statements, and there are many more, are patently wrong and are not backed by any evidence. Absolutely wrong. Firstly, there is the assumption that spreading disease between healthy people is a bad thing. This was absolutely wrong and was never a historical way of dealing with pandemics. The historical way was to protect the vulnerable and let the healthy be the first line of defense. Locking down children was one of the most ridiculous and useless actions, but we had to protect granny. As you say, RIM got it wrong big time.
The vaccines did nothing, so in the end everybody alive caught Covid and survived, so what was the point of lockdowns? They just tried to delay us all getting Covid so we could catch it later? I very much doubt they had any effect on Covid.
Covid was all about testing. The story of its emergence was bullshit, it was a man-made scam, I do not believe that the elites would be brave enough to release an actual pathogen that could have destroyed their own children, and I do not believe that the elites were clever enough to have their own secret vaccine to protect themselves but not the plebs. It was all controlled through the testing, which was why African leaders (real leaders, not the puppets we have in the west) paid with their lives for mocking the blatantly corrupt tests.
