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D Benton Smith
ParticipantAny Cabal genuinely intent upon world domination would at least attempt to insinuate it’s tentacles of Power into the top levels of its major competitors. Otherwise it’s intent to dominate “the World” can’t really be taken seriously as genuine. I mean, after all, what kind of obsessive world dominator complacently settles for second or third place? The game is KING of the hill, not Second Banana of the hill.
For this patently obvious reason it is, in my opinion, a VERY safe bet that in any big fight there are representatives of BOTH (or more) sides placed as high as possible in the power structures of the OTHER side(s) . . . and keeping that more or less treasonous fact more or less top secret for damned good reasons.
So for THAT (see preceding paragraph) patently obvious reason I sincerely recommend that no one trust any ( repeat, ANY) hierarchical power structure, because there are only two possibilities. Either the structure is so ineffective and irrelevant that no one has bothered to infiltrate and subvert it, or the structure is so powerful and important that it has already been infiltrated and subverted six ways from Sunday. Good luck on figuring out all of the skullduggery.
This line of strategic reasoning invariably leads to a rather cynical, but nonetheless true, conclusion:
ultimately the battle in the shared arena is between institutional (structured) power of EVERY kind, and truly sovereign individuals.Big fight. Neither side can win without (by that very fact of victory) eliminating the other side and thus bringing the ENTIRE game to an ignominious end. If there is no “other side” then there is no game. It s very very VERY unlikely for that to happen any time soon.
The contest is authority vs sovereignty. I recommend striking some sort of acceptable balance between your personal sovereignty and all of those authority structures currently telling you what you absolutely have to do “or else”.
So, let the games begin (or continue, or whatever) if that’s what you think is the best thing do at this time.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantExtremely harsh, but highly effective.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantBetting the continued survival of the species , which would of course include the gambler(s) , on an untested solution to an as yet unidentified problem of unproved origin has such an infinitesimally small probability of survival that even permitting it to be be substantially attempted is incontrovertible proof that those who allow it are as crazy as those who attempt it.
I would compare it to passengers in a lifeboat passively allowing one or more of the other occupants to take a fire ax to the bottom hull of the boat to drain the bilges.
Reality has an extremely harsh manner of responding to that level of crazy.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantHas anyone else put this up yet? I grabbed it from Kunstler, but it has to be going hyper-viral as we speak. A U.S. patriot air traffic YouTuber going by the handle of “MonkeyWerx” lays out the irrefutable evidence that it was the US who blew up Nordtsream, and even draws nicely illustrated diagram of HOW.
It is a “must see”. Here’s the link : https://www.monkeywerxus.com/blog/the-nord-stream-2-pipeline-sabotage .
I have more to say about this event, but will put it in a fresh comment.
D Benton Smith
Participant“They just don’t make cannon fodder like they used to.”
That is a one liner suitable for the Ages. It belongs in some kind of Hall of Fame and is now an official part of The English Language.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantNotice that the countries who voted to let Ukraine into NATO are the MOST dependent on importing Russian natural gas (ranging from 59% to 99% !). Makes perfect sense, then, from a purely financial and utterly EVIL standpoint. Stealing Russia , lock , stock and barrel, would pay pretty well.
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Participant@AlexanderCarpenter
I recall a multi-panel-cartoon from some magazine back in the day. Panel #1 showed a door-to-door canvasser (clipboard and questionnaire at the ready) knocking on an apartment door. Panel #2 shows a slightly scruffy hippie/beatnik type answering the door, and the survey taker reciting his pitch, “Hello, I’m from the Acme Good-Cause Polling Company, and I wonder if you would take the time to answer a few questions.” Panel #3 shows the hippie laconically replying, “I’m sorry I can’t help you, man, but I don’t have any answers. All I’ve got is questions.”
Honest to goodness Scientists, if they’re being good and honest, are like the hippie in the doorway. All they’ve really got at the end of their quest for answers is just a bunch more questions.
D Benton Smith
Participant@AFewKnowTheTruth regarding energy #117490
Excellent essay. That’s the most concise, cogent, accessible and communicative summery on the topic that I have read anywhere to date.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantIf I was exceptionally skilled at skullduggery (which I’m NOT) I think the way I would go about it is to look around for some fool who wanted to be “Boss” and then become that narcissistic idiot’s indispensable paymaster and adviser. I think the job is called “fall guy”, and although the pay and perks are awesome, the “fall” part of the job description can REALLY suck.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantRemarkable!
People are just beginning to understand that there are no leaders this side of Russia except the official gaggle of elected/appointed ones now so exclusively intent upon their personal murder/suicide pact with the Devil in exchange for wealth, power and the immorality of the grave.
There is no cavalry about to save us, or perhaps I should more accurately say that WE are the only cavalry and practically NOBODY wants to admit it..
Anyone around here looking for a field promotion in the cavalry?
D Benton Smith
Participant(A quiet offer made recently to British Prime Minister Liz Truss and her trusty side kick “money genius”, Kwasi Kwarteng )
Hey there Liz, Kwasi. How’s it goin,? Say, how would you like to be rich, powerful and famous? Want to become millionaires and hold high political office? Yeah? Good choice! Here’s the deal. All ya gotta do to get all that wealth, power and fame is to hold this bag of English money (Pound Stirling, gilts, etc.) for a minute . . . . and I’ll get right back to you in a day or two with all the rewards. “
D Benton Smith
ParticipantThe Western Empire’s “money magic” has lost it’s mojo. It was doing its damnedest to apply the lessons contained in that hundred year old best selling re-hash of much older ideas, “The Richest Man In Babylon,” only to discover too late that the BIGGEST lesson in the book is NOT the idea of “making your gold work for you”. Nope. Gold does no work (duh!). The biggest lesson from “The Richest Man In Babylon,” is that by “making their money work for them” Babylon wiped itself from the face of the earth and today exists only in near myth as a fragment of people’s dimmest memory. I mean to say, Babylon is, indeed, “Gone, baby, gone!”
The so-called “magic” in “The Richest Man In Babylon” was based on the truly insane notion that it is possible to make a thing called “financial profit” by moving around an idea called “money” in clever interest-returning ways, and that by acquiring a lot of “money” in this “profitable” way a person could acquire STACKS of “money” and thereby have the “power” to tell everybody else what to do (regardless of what everybody else WANTED to do). This delusory (suicidal!) goal is called “Becoming Rich and Powerful”, and it was pumped and touted throughout the entire civilization as the best idea since sliced bread.
Well, step aside Babylon, because there is a new suicide-by-money-magic dead empire on its way to your corner of Hell. It has gone by many names, down through the ages, with a few of the most recent labels being The United States Government, and The British Crown, or the nasty “partnership” of its World Economic Forum. Names don’t matter. It is knowable by what it DOES. I call it “The Cabal” , others call it Globalist, whatever, but what it DOES is try by fair means and foul is to try to get something for nothing. It’s most recent manifestation, at any rate, along with its bastard offspring (US, UK, Aus/NZ/Oceania, etc.) is on it’s way to oblivion, so scootch over, Babylon and make a little room.
NOTE:
I’m not so naive as to think it isn’t going to start all over and happen again, starting now. After all, freebies and something-for-nothin and windfall profit are such TEMPTING LIES to believe in. No doubt we will err again, but this time PLEASE can’t we all try not to do anything QUITE that awful this time? Meanwhile, there’s a lot of real and actual WORK to do if we ever again want to have enough necessary and valuable products to go around, so that’s what I intend to concentrate on hence forward.D Benton Smith
ParticipantTo be chipped into yesterday’s brief discussion of ego:
And what is the EGO? Is it the soul? Or is it the bagged up collection of mostly fetid garbage that the soul drags along like some homeless “bag person” wandering the desolation of Los Angeles? I suppose the soul does this for lack of anything else that it can point to proudly and say, “That’s me! That’s all my STUFF. Pretty impressive, huh?”
D Benton Smith
ParticipantA brief comment about, and condemnation of, about pomp and circumstance.
The practice has been with us for a VERY long time.
It was probably “invented” from the observation that small children still trust adults and are therefore unduly impressed by adult’s adding seriously unfathomable irrelevant and obfuscating nonsense to impress small children with the notion that what the adult is saying or doing is thereby made very very “truer” and “importanter” . The way I look at it is that adding irrelevant gestures and flashy decorations to bullshit does not magically purify the bullshit into truth. It simply refines it into PURE bullshit.
Romans, Brits and Nazis are past masters, but they certainly aren’t historically alone, and prettty much every government that ever was has given the practice a serious shot.
It REALLY pisses me off because it is meant to distract attention from what is ACTUALLY being said and REALLY being done, and is therefore PRIMARILY intended to deceive. Genuine expressions of spontaneous joy are better than fine, they are wonderful. Cold hearted pomp and circumstance is pure unadulterated evil.
Pomp and circumstance is NOT a nice thing, so don’t get distracted by the Burlesque theater. Filter out the bullshit and look and listen to what they are actually saying and doing.
That sweet little old lady the Limeys just deservedly consigned to Hell (Queen Elizabeth) during her much-too-lengthy life green lighted and signed off on the mercenary murder of MILLIONS of people at the hands of her Empire for the sole purpose of making more money and staying an empire. No excuses. And now her equally evil spawn Charles is gearing up to finish the job by willfully engineering the deaths of 90% of humanity. Pretend that isn’t so.
Pomp and circumstance be DAMNED! Where there is smoke it is wise to look out for fire, and where there is pomp and circumstance it is prudent to beware of premeditated cold blooded murder.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantHere it is Friday, nearly 6:00 in the evening US Central time, and everything is shutting down for the end of the week, and no one has officially declared WW3 yet.
Isn’t it just like those bastards to leave us stewing ANOTHER two days, to find out Monday if the world ended over the week-end.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantA Clear (and possibly fortunate) Case Of Mistaken Identity
I share your nonplussed discombobulation. Commentator @OldAndTired read my inspired and inspirational world class geopolitical analysis, recognized it’s genius immediately, and naturally ascribed authorship to the equally brilliant, Boscohorowitz. An easy and natural error to make. I was certainly not offended.
On the other hand, maybe his opinion of my comment was that he had never read anything so dumb in his entire life, in which case I am simply grateful that he pinned the blame on you.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantWhat you said bears repeating, “Frontal attacks on the “all powerful” is foolish.
“We” are working to rule so that we can survive to continue another day.
flourishing – Underground, cash transactions, trading, black markets”Exactly right, in my opinion. Spot on.
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Participant@DocRobinson
I think you are right, and I will try to reform, but don’t expect me to get better all at once.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantThe Powers That Be have openly declared that they have the power to take away ALL of the power of the people who constitute their respective countries. In response to that proclamation the people of those respective countries have replied, “WHAT power are you thinking about in particular? The only power that you have as the government is the directed power of us, the people of the country. That’s all the power that there is. There isn’t any other source of material power, so if WE the people do NOT have the power to live, or eat, or stay warm, or make and sell things, then where is all your ‘Official’ governmental ‘Power’ going to come from, exactly?”
In other words, the “All Powerful” elite leadership of a SHITHOLE, is as “powerful” as a hole full of shit…… please pardon my French.
Reality has come knockin’ for the late great Western Empire . . . . . and quite possibly most of the depraved lunatic Cabal that’s been running it into the ground.
Things could get real salty during the transition, or maybe not, but one thing is for damned sure EITHER way : The “West” is OVER for a long time to come, and will not be coming back at scale anytime soon either.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantThe roles have been reversed in this fading Age of Empires, The West is no longer the center, and all those who covet power will gravitate to the new center (wherever that settles out to be) to remain players in the Great Game. Most will very quickly forget that the sun used to rise and set in Brussels, London, and NY/DC. They will forget because it doesn’t matter, and there will be REAL present-time things that DO matter, so that’s where their time, attention and treasure will go. They will be too busy at that to giver their old stomping ground much notice, except as a colony to be exploited.
The game now for PEOPLE is to protect our interests against the new Centers of Power. And the word “our” does not apply to the former U.S. government. Screw the old government. They are EVAPORATING faster than the mind can follow. I’m talking about us, the people.
We’re faced with the likelihood of becoming a rustic outpost of easily ripped off local yokels if we don’t keep our eyes open stick up for our rights.D Benton Smith
ParticipantThe basic position (pro or con) that people take in the Russian war-zone referendums is an excellent barometer of where those same people stand on all of the other existentially “hot” topics swirling around all over the place.. That’s kinda interesting, dontcha think?
D Benton Smith
ParticipantIf your sense of humor is as dark as mine then you will see how amusingly funny it is that all of these people ferociously demanding the democracy and free speech that they think are being denied to them, are living smack in the middle of total democracy and absolutely free speech. By the way, such a free speech democracy would have to be one in which EVERYONE (no exceptions!) has a say and can say any damned thing they want . . . which INCLUDES free speech and a democratic “vote” for the guys who want total authoritarian dictatorship and absolute censorship of all wrongthink.
You asked for freedom of speech and deed?
Well, there your have it. Any complaints?
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Participant@TonySmyth
Well, I must say that your commentary on my commentary put me in the extremely peculiar position of disagreeing with your conclusion by agreeing with almost everything you said.
I think the only significant difference between your comment and my comment has to do with what I consider “conquering” to mean, and what you think I meant.
What I meant is NOT that Russia is going to march roughshod across Europe laying waste and raising a flag of New Empire. I do not see Russia in those terms at all. I APPROVE of what Putin is doing (for the most part) under extremely challenging circumstances, and I AGREE with the factual points you raised in your comment.
What I had meant to say (and apparently did not succeed in saying well enough) is that the Russian Federation is poised to emerge victorious from the current conflict, will thereby escape from the hegemonic deviltry of the so-called “Collective West” ( US, UK, NATO, WEF, WHO, Big Tech, Big Pharma, etc. , etc., etc.), and will then participate with other free and sovereign nations in a much improved World Order that is considerably better than the old dying one.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantIt is a severely flawed strategy to become existentially dependent upon things that are controlled by one’s enemies, because those enemies will of course use that dependency as a means of control.
One way to defend against this is to make the enemy totally dependent upon something that YOU control and which THEY need. This usually backfires if the enemy decides to just steal it from you with force of arms.
The better way is to simply NOT become dependent. This typically results in a more rustic lifestyle (e.g. wood heat , book-reading-instead-of-internet, home grown food, etc.) but that sure beats starvation, vaccinicide, or being herded off to the crematoriums in cattle cars.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantThe absurdity has become so extreme that it’s nearly impossible to make up jokes about it because the plain facts are funnier than anything you could make up. For instance, the EU has decided to “punish” Russia with a sanction that prevents Russia from selling toilet paper to Europe (where all the toilet paper comes from China, using Russian wood pulp).
Europe shakes a fistful of of rather odorously soiled rags and tree leaves defiantly towards Russia and yells, ” We’ll show you! We’re going to stop wiping our butts until you buckle under and surrender!”
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Participant@VeraciousPoet
Does being abusive towards me make it easier on you? I think the estimate you expressed about my viewpoint is way off the mark, but it’s your mind, so its alright with me for you to think what you want.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantI am repeatedly re-amazed at how the so-called “Masterminds” of the Cabal are capable of pulling off such absolutely BRILLIANT ways to do the most incredibly stupid things. I mean the intricacy and coordination of “moving parts” is just awe inspiring. And the sheer idiocy of their objective is just as impressively moronic beyond comprehension.
Take the Nordstream sabotage, for example. Years in the planning. Incalculable covert and clandestine machinations necessary to pull it off at the moment it was planned (many years ago) to be pulled off.
And yet, what does the sabotage of Nordstream actually accomplish other than the deaths of millions of Europeans this winter?
Well, here’s ONE other thing it accomplished. It removed the last lever of influence that the collective West could bring to bear to persuade Russia to stop conquering. There is now ZERO reasons for Russia to do anything else other than continue conquering. (first Ukraine, then Europe, and almost immediately thereafter the US and UK). After Ukraine falls there will not even be very much need for employing extreme violence. Why spend good money and priceless lives to destroy the West, when the Collective West is destroying itself all on its own. I don’t mean that facetiously or as a throw-way comedy line. I mean it literally and pragmatically.
The Russians are very good at war because they know that’s what war is. They will diligently attempt to use only the precisely sufficient amount of violence that is deemed necessary to achieve the objective.
So that’s what’s going to happen. Well done, Cabal. Brilliantly stupid.
Annihilation is what they wanted and annihilation is what they’re going to get . . . but not annihilation of us (as they plan) but instead annihilation of themselves, by their own hand. Maybe that’s what they really wanted all along.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantThe big fear seems to be that this “World War 1; The Final Years” (WW1TFY) could quite possibly knock humankind back into the Stone Age. Hmmm. Yeah, I suppose that’s a remote but possible possibility.
But from what I’ve gathered from the historical and archeological record (not to even mention what I’ve pieced together from my own two eyes and life experience) humankind lived through the Stone Age just fine. It then went on to thrive and conquer the planet.
So, not to worry. Just keep yourself and loved ones alive as best you can and everything is going to be alright, overall, in the long run, if we’re lucky.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantI understand that there is a new vaccine against old age. 100% guaranteed effective.
D Benton Smith
Participant@Red asked, “How about WW1TFY, world war one the final years.”
That works. A Trilogy, like Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantIn the game of playing both sides against the middle the two sides fighting and suffering devastating losses is not bad news. It’s business as usual.
Will we wake up in time to suss out the folks who make that their business?
The Cabal, gentle reader, the Cabal.
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Participant@JohnDay “The Nordstream pipelines are shut down.”
I concluded from the kilometer wide column of bubbles in the Baltic (which I stupidly called the North Sea in my previous comments) evidenced that Russia’s pumps were still running. I believe those pumps must keep running, despite the leak, in order to prevent pipeline collapse at the extreme depths where pipeline runs. I know that line pressure maintenance is high tech and quite complicated, and thereby WAY above my grade level, BUT, there IS a lot of gas leaking into the Baltic, and those bubbles DO belong to Russia, and that no one is paying for those bubbles except Russia, and that Russia losing money is high on the list of US/NATO/WEF/Cabal goals.
We will soon see who dunnit, and I for one am VERY interested because it really really is a very very big deal at this stage of the WW3 that the Cabal seems so intent upon.
Incidentally, now that we’re on the topic of nomenclature, do you find (as I do) that calling it WW3 shows a distinct paucity of creative imagination and branding skills?
I think we should jazz it up a little, especially since this is gonna be the last time for a LONG time that humankind will be able to muster up enough energy to do war on a global basis. Let’s show a little panache!
Lets call it Word War Last or something like that.
D Benton Smith
Participant@JohnDay regarding speculation on who blew up Nordstream
I just encountered this from somewhere out on the Interwebs from a dude with the avatar handle of “Feldwebel Schultz” (cool handle, like Field Marshall, only sillier)
“Feldwebel Schultz • 39 minutes ago
I doubt it was the Russians as they control the tap.
I doubt it was the EU as they need the gas.
I doubt it was Ukraine, as they have their own problems.
I wouldn’t put it past the US to do this.”The Feldwebel’s thoughts do have the twin virtues of simplicity and coherence. Sounds plausible to me.
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Participant@JohnDay
Cui bono, and look at the strategic locations of the blasts, and ask why in all three locations the result was a massive but sustainable leak (VERY precise demolition required, difficult to accomplish ) rather than complete destruction of the whole pipe (relatively easy, just use a BIG explosive. Overkill it.) The sabotage did NOT stop or slow current delivery. How is Germany being attacked if current demand is being fully met ? (which it is.) German orders are being filled. Germany has always and still does have the ability to buy all the gas it wants. Hell, the valves are even ON German soil. All they have to do is place the order and pay in rubles.
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ParticipantNATO’s precisely limited sabotage damage to Nordstream is diabolically brilliant in one sense, and suidal (as usual) in another sense.
Here’s the brilliant part: Russia has made one hell of a lot of profit FULFILLING CONTRACTS to deliver gas to Europe through Nordstream. The only gas they get paid for, however, is the gas that actually gets delivered. They don’t get paid for any billions of cubic feet that “accidentally” get pumped out into the North Sea.
Because the pipeline is merely damaged, not utterly destroyed, it can still deliver the contracted amount of gas, regardless of the leak, just so long as Russia keeps the pumps running . . . which, by law, they are obliged to do. Of course by keeping the pumps running they are also pumping uumpty uump millions of cubic feet of their valuable natural gas into the north sea, for no return payment.
Thus, NATO pulled off a piece of brilliant economic hardball warfare. Economically speaking in the short term. Russia is being kicked hard in the crotch by that fabulously costly Nordtream leak. Financially speaking it’s like a hemorrhage of the coronary artery.
Yeah, well, so much for the “brilliant” part. Now for the drooling-on-shoes stupidity.
NATO has literally bet the farm that Russia will yield and comply with all of NATO’s demands that Russia be dismantled and removed from the world stage. That IS what the collective West is demanding. It is demanding sovereignty OVER Russia. BUT it has , by sabotaging Nordstream, removed any reason that Russia might have previously had for surrendering.
If Russia bankrupts itself by keeping the Nordstream pumps running (feeding Europe AND feeding the leak) then it is tantamount to surrender. Russia will bankrupt and the Collective West will scoop it all up via the “probate court” of the Collective West’s financial system. If Russia no longer owns and commands the affairs of Russia, then Russia as a sovereign nation is no more. It might retain the place names on maps, like they do with old half forgotten empires, but it won’t be a sovereign state.
If surrendering equals 100% certainty of death as a nation, and fighting has a 50 % chance of victory, then choosing to fights is not a difficult choice for a currently sovereign nation to make. What’s the worst that could happen, “surrender”?
Talk about the ultimate no brainer. Of course they will fight, AND ( if you look at the game board with the cold eye of unflinching reason ) they are also going to WIN the fight. Knowing that they are going to win is yet another pretty damned good reason to choose fighting over surrendering. I mean , DUH!
One way they could win (and there are many ways) is that they can simply close the pipelines for repairs. This exempts them liability for failure to fulfill contracts (Force Majeure, ya know?) , and it does not cost them even one red ruble more than the current state of affairs is costing them. In fact, they actually SAVE money by saving the gas which (because they were saved) can then be sold at some time in the future for even MORE advantageous prices.
Thank you Mr. NATO, why bother to fight when we’ve enemies like you to do it for us?
It’s all over but the hospice. And be sure to sign up early for good seating at the burying .
D Benton Smith
ParticipantWhat an excellent and concise analogy, and I would even extend it to include Person B enlisting the assistance the others (with appeals to their self-interests as motivational persuasion) to collaborate in enforcing their authoritarianism over person A. The foundation of authority is, after all, “ganging up” as the main means and method of acquiring power in order to win, which we see so pervasively in so-called “cancel culture”, dictatorships and empire.
But we also know, however, that the logical and psychological mechanisms of such authoritarian strategies always and only end in those systems eating their young and failing in horrible paroxysms of suicidally bizarre insanity.
“Nature’s” answer to these failures is, of course, evidenced in the observed inevitability of alterations of the strategy, such that a later “new and improved” version thrives more than the earlier version and either supplants or replaces it. Version 1.0 gives way to Version 1.001a , And so it goes. “Evolution” if you will.
The world (indeed the Universe) is what it is, and will only be incrementally different in each of it’s future iterations. So if there was centralized control by ruling elites yesterday then there will certainly be such things tomorrow, and tomorrow and tomorrow . . . . and so on, too.
It looks repetitive and inevitable unless one stands back and notices that it is changing, and that the state of affairs tomorrow is NEVER the same as the state was yesterday, and that over the long haul (even a “long haul” as brief as the one on Earth) that there seems to be an ‘All Natural Ingredients’ world developing that is in some indefinable way actually better and more gratifying to individuals of all species than the more primitive versions.
The tooth and claw “law of the jungle” which is necessary to the continuance of organic life is unlikely to go away anytime soon (we fervently hope), but at the same time, and very much in addition to it, is the undeniable fact that there does distinctly seem to be a kind of progress which is running in the other direction, away from authoritarian elite hierarchy and toward spiritual (if you will) sovereignty and freedom.
Should that spiritual sovereignty ever be fully achieved it will be “Game Over”, of course, but I don’t think we have to worry about that happening any time soon either. And it would certainly be a less agonizing way to check out of this “Hotel California” than what the WEF has in mind.
I do believe there is a way out of this place that does not involve winding up as a line of digital code in some monstrous AI, or as a meal in the belly of a predator.
Perhaps a balance is possible, wherein we have the benefits of abstract reasoning and so-called “intelligence”, without literally identifying ourselves as BEING the tools that we are merely USING.
That’s the direction which interests me.
D Benton Smith
Participant@MichaelReid
@MichaelReid
Thank you for clarifying the puzzle for me. I think I get it, and (if I am getting it right) it also seems we’re in close enough accord on the main issue (monarchy being intrinsically flawed) that muskets can be lowered.
Incidentally, you also asked, “What is a man to make of it if he does not believe in god?”
My answer is that belief in god is not a prerequisite to finding God, so long as you just keep asking the right questions and insisting on true answers. Prejudicially ruling out the possibility, such that it is dismissed before fair and full inspection would close the door of course, but otherwise you might be on your way to God and not even know it until some future moment of enlightenment. Who knows?
For myself, I am as certain of the existence of God as I am of the existence of existence, but even if I were not yet convinced of that, the way I approached life’s problems guaranteed that the conclusion was inevitable: an informed and unequivocal awareness of the existence of divinity. I could prove it to anyone willing to listen . . . . but that’s a heap of listening and an even bigger heap of willingness than I have any right to expect of anyone and so I expect it of no one.
Getting back to those ancient Kings claiming a reserved seat in God’s line-up and a hot line to God’s ear. Well of course they would say something like that. They’d say anything if it kept the peasants in line and the coffers filled. I wouldn’t believe a word they said. I would not believe it was Tuesday, on Tuesday, if it were a King who told me so.
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Participant@MichaelReid “You lost me right there.”
I’m unclear on why or how I lost you.
To recap the event and my proposed explanation. The event that happened is the first slow and now rapid dissolution of the wealth and power of the British Crown monarchical system, and the explanation is that monarchy is an intrinsically flawed concept which always fails because authoritarianism is based on misconception that monarchy makes logical sense (it does not, even though monarchs claim that it does.
Your comment continued with, “Just because things are, why does that require there be an explanation? Explanation that is the truth? Can the explanation change with each occurrence?
What do you think the probably [probability] of the explanation being the truth actually is?
I don’t think this knowledge is required to live a beautiful life.”I fully agree that this knowledge is not required to live a beautiful life, but I do not see the connection between that statement and what I posted about the reasons for the ongoing ‘centuries-in-the-process’ collapse of Monarchy throughout the world.
I would be happy to discus it, but first I would need to better understand your objections.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantI think that the entry point for debate about censorship of free speech should not revolve around whether censorship is good or not. It should first be a discussion addressing the question of whether it is censorship or not.
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Participant@DrD
That treatise was not just masterfully logical (and scientifically true) but entertaining and soul satisfying into the bargain. No wonder they call you the Doctor.
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