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    Piet Mondriaan Self portrait 1918   • Trump Says Ukraine ‘Will Be Crushed Very Shortly’ Without Peace Deal (ZH) • ‘Real de-Nazification’ Would In
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    #187077
    Germ
    Participant

    Good morning:-))

    They are literally laughing at us ….

    Getting two COVID vaccinations in the same arm helps immune system respond to disease quicker, study finds

    https://7news.com.au/news/public-health/getting-two-covid-vaccinations-in-the-same-arm-helps-immune-system-respond-to-disease-quicker-study-finds-c-18517729#131qinakzn7b00v6ic53ogx471sb7ll8

    TVASSF

    #187079
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Posted from yesterday. Told you I would get too busy to handle.

    “She did a two year study and estimated that there were 170 DUMB’s, with a transportation network”

    As mentioned yesterday. Why didn’t Trump follow the $23T? Bc he was President, he already knows where most of it went, into these + Space. He needs the PRESENT leaks dealt with, not ancient history.

    ““There’s no blue states, just blue cities”

    Exactly as I stated yesterday, there’s a trend. My point was, much as Chicago runs IL and 12 cities would vote the whole U.S.; Canada is 100x worse. There’s Toronto from Windsor to Ottawa + Vancouver. That’s it. Even half of that is Conservative. Expect: remove the million “legal” immigrants, it would be wildly so, same as everywhere else, UK.

    Sargon on importing another million to UK at 5 star hotels while English are starving and paying $2k in rent.

    Starmer sez “I can keep this up all day”. Can you indeed, sir? And if the UK Pound cracks? You peasants WILL revolt. And then we WILL murder you all. As One does. …If you’re a Nazi.

    “• Trump Says Ukraine ‘Will Be Crushed Very Shortly’ Without Peace Deal (ZH)

    This is your final warning. Why? “It’s not whether you win or lose but where you place the blame.”

    “• ‘Real de-Nazification’ Would Include All Europe – Medvedev (RT)

    ATM, they will remain Nazi for some time, until further notice. Even with level level of popular resistance.

    I am very, VERY grave, chilled, silent, on say UKs problems. WHAT IS THERE at this point? There IS ONLY the English PEOPLE rise up and do TERRIBLE things. With a leader who does terrible things. That’s it. They‘ll tell you to leave, but what else is there, historically? Die? Only 10% less so in France, Sweden. Terrible, terrible things. So if they get like that – can’t see how they don’t – GET ON THE PLANE back to Eritrea or wherever. I do not want to speak of this further, it’s a horror, no escape, then the evil will install the Guilt-Hooks from control on them again, WHEN THEY CAUSED IT. The PEOPLE told you no. 100 times. The Starmers did it OVER their express objection, stopping short ONLY of shooting everyone. They will be considered guilty, bloody villains when they can either 1) Shoot Starmer all the way back to Blair 2) Shoot and export all the immigrants to re-stabilize England. Either way, order is restored. Other ways are great! Do them! But history has no examples of that.

    Anyway, so if you want to see how bad Trump is, compare us, BARELY holding any line at all, with these, who were rolled over in UK, Canada, France, Sweden, Germany. Your choices are bad and least-bad. I’ll pick least-bad.

    “European NATO members are risking nuclear war by escalating military tensions with Russia, according to Nikolay Patrushev,”

    This was always the plan, but to install guilt-hooks, it was the U.S. who would do it. Hillary promised on 100 Bibles before 2016. They are STILL doing this, with a “No-fly zone” in W. Ukr. EXACT SAME. NATO troops “Peacekeeping” with 777s running day in night, EXACT SAME.

    ““Macron said that Western pressure on Russia to make a ceasefire deal with Ukraine will increase in the coming eight to 10 days.”

    What pressure? They have no pressure. They don’t exist. To exist you have to have “An Army”, and a missile that can fly without U.S. satellite tech.

    “President Trump has warned the Russians that his patience will soon run thin, “

    Hahahahahaha! Okay pal. Luckily this is nothing, all the show. Again, constant stories, from 2018, Trump stops H1B visas in TN, but at the Presser, he says “Well boys, if nothing bad happens, none of this will be reported…” So you have to MAKE something “bad” happen, to get it in the news. Like Elon and Bessant fighting? WWE! Action! Bessant and Powell! Yeah, they have lunch weekly. Powell and Trump! As Trump gives him cover to take actions! JHC.

    “Kiev is demanding an unconditional ceasefire because its forces are being routed on the battlefield..”

    What the Literal f- are you talking about? Leave the areas Russia calls “Russia” and there’s a ceasefire. The end. In fact, possible end to war in general.

    Again, when EVERY. THING. Is a lie, you get like this. Suddenly the most obvious statement become “What did I just say?”

    “We have to keep a hard eye on that, […] but secondly we have to find opportunities to end the war,”

    Leave “Russia”? Just ballparking here, don’t quote me.

    “Finland faced military restrictions and observed neutrality during the Cold War. It formally joined NATO only in 2023,

    And immediately was hit with a multi-billion dollar bill. Hahahahaha! Suckers!

    From restoring American exceptionalism and strong leadership in the Oval Office to securing the border in record time to deconstructing the administrative state with the Department of Government Efficiency,”

    None of these actually happened.

    “These career politicians aren’t retiring because things are looking up for Democrats.”

    No, Hogg specifically told them to self-deport, Or he’d throw $200M at them to primary them for radicals.

    “Poilievre blew a massive lead in the polls in no time flat. How did he do that?”

    Pretty suspicious, but the Left in Canada is legendary for being deranged and proud. It was that Poilievre didn’t exist to begin with. Why bother with Canada Romney? Or Mondale? I’m on fire for that Bob Dole action.

    • Oliver Stone Warns Russia and US Were Close To World War III (RT)

    Sure, except we’re IN WWIII. AND that’s us and Russia v Europe. China will take whatever they want while we’re busy tho.

    ““Russia and the United States are a great partnership, as is China, by the way, and I think we could have a world that is much safer… if we all get together and realize that it’s a multilateral world.”

    We have. We’re reversing Empire.

    “• Elon Musk’s Lawyer Thinks He Is Allowed to Continue Running DOGE (DS)

    Was hard to tell, he’s “Working” for DOGE? How is that different from “Volunteering” since the paycheck means nothing?

    ““Once you have humanoid robots and deep intelligence, you basically have quasi-infinite products and services available.”

    Yes, and they are controlled ONLY by the Feudal Class. More on this later.

    We ALREADY had this, remember, since the 30s. Goods could be so cheap we’d never work like the Jetsons. What happened since 1920, 1930? THE OPPOSITE.

    BTW Elon doesn’t do Free Speech either. He’s dicking with stuff all the time. Yes, it’s less, and appreciate, but it’s like a benevolent Lord, not an openly hostile one. No: No OverLords.

    #187080
    Topcat
    Participant

    • Trump Says Ukraine ‘Will Be Crushed Very Shortly’ Without Peace Deal

    Yes, due to his arming and encouraging the Neo-nazis to attack Russia all thru his first term 2016-20

    • ‘Real de-Nazification’ Would Include All Europe – Medvedev

    Yes, openly calling for Russia to be dismembered and dividing her resources up among EU countries is cause for the de-Nazification’ of the EU. It’s also a cause for the nuclear annihilation of the EU, they have openly declared war on Russia.

    Mortem Ad Tyrannis

    • Western Europe Waging ‘Quiet War’ Against Trump – Medvedev

    Yes, the EU has declared war on the US, crush them, kill their energy grids.

    Oh that’s right, they will do that themselves!

    Tariff them to death

    • West ‘Delirious With Nuclear Apocalypse Scenarios’ – Patrushev

    Yes, indulge their fantasy, by all means!

    • Zelensky: Putin’s Victory Day Truce Proposal An ‘Attempt At Manipulation’

    The Jewish Nazi speaks

    • Lavrov Outlines Why Kiev Is Pushing For Indefinite Ceasefire

    Trump could produce an unconditional ceasefire in minutes by announce all weapons and ‘intelligence assistance is stopped to Ukraine, but he won’t, he has no believably or integrity

    • Ukraine One Of The World’s Most Corrupt Countries – Trump Adviser Waltz

    Yes, because Trump helped create it.

    The corruption Neo-nazi regime should be necklaced around Trump’s neck like a stack of burning tires

    #187081
    EoinW
    Participant

    Take a look at the Canadian electoral map. As usual Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto and Vancouver decide who runs Canada. Everything else is blue. Why can’t those cities just run themselves(including supporting the poverty stricken Maritimes) and allow the rest of the country to run itself?

    Maybe because it’s the rest of the country which produces everything…which the deadbeat cities then take.

    How long before Alberta and Saskatchewan call it quits? The sooner, the better. Break the country up!

    #187082
    Topcat
    Participant

    Trump could care less about ‘peace’ in Ukraine

    He wants to spend more time helping the Jewish Jenocide in Palestine.

    That way the Jews can help him Jenocide the Chinese

    #187083
    Topcat
    Participant

    The US and Canada only have Blue cities

    Ring fence these cities, the country folk have all the guns and know how to use them.

    Tell the ring-fenced cities no food until you turn over ALL illegal migrants for immediate deportation.

    There is no Justice without accountability.

    That means arrests for the Covid mass murderers.

    For the fake J6 scammers

    Arrests for the accounting fraud of ‘governments’ in general, mostly cities.

    The DEI Wokeness Psychosis needs to stop too. Also a ‘city’ problem.

    The DEI Wokeness Psychosis undermines the national security of a common culture, every bit as dangerous as actual physical invasion by a hostile power.

    Return some core values to a diseased culture.

    Fealty to Family

    #187084
    those darned kids
    Participant

    • Trump Says Ukraine ‘Will Be Crushed Very Shortly’ Without Peace Deal (ZH)
    •• it’s already done.

    • ‘Real de-Nazification’ Would Include All Europe – Medvedev (RT)
    •• can’t we find a new word?

    • Western Europe Waging ‘Quiet War’ Against Trump – Medvedev (RT)
    •• why would they do that!?

    • West ‘Delirious With Nuclear Apocalypse Scenarios’ – Patrushev (RT)
    •• so dumb. everybody knows it’s gonna be india-pakistan..

    • Russia Focused on Bringing Peace to Ukraine – Kremlin (Sp.)
    •• russia focused on bringing ukraine to russia.

    • Zelensky: Putin’s Victory Day Truce Proposal An ‘Attempt At Manipulation’ (ZH)
    •• can’t we find this guy a strip club to manage?

    • Lavrov Outlines Why Kiev Is Pushing For Indefinite Ceasefire (RT)
    •• minsk 9.3!

    • Ukraine One Of The World’s Most Corrupt Countries – Trump Adviser Waltz (RT)
    •• Ukraine One Of The World’s Most Corrupt Countries – Trump Adviser Mr. Kettle

    • Ukraine Could Lose Land To Get More Western Weapons – Finnish President (RT)
    •• now finland wants a chunk!?

    • Lutnick Rolls Out Auto Tariff Relief As US Pushes To Reshore Supply Chains (ZH)
    •• yep. as soon as their man carney got in..

    • Thanks, Amazon — Tariff Transparency Might Backfire Bigly (Green)
    •• jeff bezos is a war criminal.

    • What the MSM Doesn’t Want You to Know About Trump’s Approval Ratings (Margolis)
    •• all hail St. Upid!

    • Trump’s First 100 Days Have Exposed the Left (Bossie)
    •• hahaha, and him, too.

    • TDS on Steroids: Canada Elects a Prime Minister to Spite Trump (Spencer)
    •• this is soooooo stupid. mr carney is perfect for the gringos.

    • Covering Up Ukrainian Nazis Is Nothing New For Canada (Proud)
    •• votes are votes, brother.

    • America’s Golden Dome May Be Powerless vs Russia’s Doomsday Missile (Kornev)
    •• did mr trump name this for his head?

    • Oliver Stone Warns Russia and US Were Close To World War III (RT)
    •• were?

    • EU Engaging In ‘Perversion Of History’ – Oliver Stone (RT)
    •• history is perversion. take a look, some real crazy shit.

    • Trump Allies: Mossad Agents And Warmongers Try To Derail Iran Talks (MEE)
    •• yep, trump allies are warmongers and mossad agents.

    • Elon Musk’s Lawyer Thinks He Is Allowed to Continue Running DOGE (DS)
    •• Elon Musk’s Lawyer Thinks He Is Allowed to Continue Decapitating Toddlers.

    #187085
    those darned kids
    Participant

    That means arrests for the Covid mass murderers.

    that means mr trump, you know.

    #187086

    [After listening to Sargon]
    Perhaps the Brits could take up that craze from back in the day of having those cute little pet pigs. And dogs. They should definitely take up more pet dogs.

    #187087
    zerosum
    Participant

    Path to Peace.

    Collins Dictionary
    https://www.collinsdictionary.com › dictionary › denazi…
    the process of freeing or declaring people, institutions, or other entities to be free from Nazi influence or ideology.

    Chose your opinion/definition
    copilot says
    What are the main principles of Nazism?
    The four main features of Nazism are racial purity, territorial expansion, power and militarism. Racial purity advocates the superiority of the Aryan race and the elimination of the undesired races.

    What is fascism in simple words?
    Fascism is a far-right form of government where most of the country’s power is held by one ruler or a small group.

    ———–
    The concepts of being “chosen,” “superior,” or “elite” have been interpreted and applied in vastly different ways across cultures, ideologies, and historical contexts. Here’s a nuanced look at these terms:

    “Chosen”:

    In Judaism, the idea of being “chosen” refers to a covenantal relationship with God, emphasizing responsibility, moral conduct, and spiritual purpose rather than superiority over others.

    In contrast, the Nazis’ ideology of being “chosen” was rooted in racial supremacy, where they claimed the Aryan race was biologically superior and destined to dominate.

    “Superior”:

    The Jewish concept of chosenness does not imply inherent superiority but rather a unique role in fulfilling divine commandments and ethical living.

    The Nazi ideology of superiority was exclusionary and dehumanizing, leading to the persecution and extermination of those they deemed inferior.

    “Elite”:

    In Jewish tradition, “elite” might refer to scholars, leaders, or individuals who excel in their dedication to religious or ethical principles.

    The Nazis used the term “elite” to describe their vision of a master race, which was enforced through eugenics and violent oppression.

    While these terms might seem similar on the surface, their meanings and implications are profoundly different depending on the context.
    The Jewish perspective is rooted in spiritual and ethical responsibility, while the Nazi interpretation was a justification for oppression and genocide.
    Let me know if you’d like to explore this further!
    —————
    • Covering Up Ukrainian Nazis Is Nothing New For Canada (Proud)

    Covering up Ukrainian Nazis is nothing new – the Canadians have been doing it for almost eighty years


    —————-

    https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA3450-1.html
    The Denazify Lie
    Russia’s Use of Extremist Narratives Against Ukraine

    This research was sponsored by the U.S. Department of State and conducted within the International Security and Defense Policy Program of the RAND National Security Research Division.

    —————
    • ‘Real de-Nazification’ Would Include All Europe – Medvedev (RT)

    The rebirth of Nazism cannot be allowed in any nation, and Europe may need an international de-Nazification effort, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has said.
    The senior official, currently serving as deputy chair of the Russian Security Council, addressed the threat of Nazi ideology during a public lecture in Moscow on Tuesday, in which he outlined Moscow’s foreign policy priorities.
    He characterized the destruction of the “Kiev neo-Nazi regime” as a necessary outcome of the Ukraine conflict, before arguing for broader “decisive action by multiple states.”
    ————–

    #187088
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Rand Paul looks weird. Is that still him, or a double?

    Libertarians will always let you down.

    You can just say the WORDS “Free Trade” and you’ll find them defending having free working people compete with slave labor. REALLY? You cannot conceive that there is a fucking country which is yours that you have a preference for and that countries and peoples are different?

    I checked out the Libertarians here in Denver about 15-20 years ago and it was a bunch of whackos. There were major players, “serious” leaders cosplaying as lesbian vampires while making political speeches. Just weird shit like that. And in the past few years, very obviously, they were overrun nationally by psychos, weirdos, and lots and lots of wokeists. Zero defenses, zero immune system, apparently.

    I don’t get how Rand Paul could not understand what ordinary people are getting in 2025. People who would have otherwise gone about their little lives, worked some job, had their hobbies, have now considered deeply. Sargon, whose roots are in Gamergate, like MILLIONS of others, just wanted to play video games, just wanted to be left alone. Archcast just wanted to geek out on linux and board games but here he is casually explaining how Marcuse, Gramsci, and Friere relate to why a small company that released a board game is losing their minds and destroying their own business. Benjamin Boyce had no intention of chronicling the destruction of civilization. Richard Grannon thought he was just going to do life coaching. The Distributist would have just had a boring civil engineering job and raised a family quietly.

    These are normal, ordinary, little people, who have nevertheless been able to grapple with weighty issues and have figured things out. And they are only representative of MILLIONS of others. (weird that D&D players, video gamers, comic book readers, are now educated to a remarkable extent to Frankfurt School and hate it actively now – many millions) It’s not their job, but they nevertheless performed way above anyone’s expectations. It IS Rand Paul’s job to understand context and meaning in the context of his duties, his position, and he’s just totally bewildered, clearly.

    Liberalism, or at least how the Boomers interpret it, lacks a fucking immune system. Apparently ANYTHING can invade and a “staunch” Boomer Liberal will immediately become the most vehement quisling, in tones of righteousness, siding against anything that deserves their loyalty and protection.

    WHAT is it, Liberal Boomers? Is it all the principles of Liberalism PLUS “in any dillema in which you could betray or not betray, always betray”???? How the FUCK do you decide “we have the best culture” ie our system of organizing our societies, right? and then follow that with “we must be eradicated. always side against the bestast thing evar”

    This solidifies in my mind that Libertarianism IS Liberalism. Idunno, I mean, Liberalism, real Liberalism, is just a set way of doing things like Free Speech. So long as you have some kind of human loyalty to things that actually matter, it should not be cancer. WTF, in jumps Rand Paul to defend not defending.

    #187089
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #187090
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #187091
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #187092
    jb-hb
    Participant

    What meme would I make to sum up my rant?

    A Boomer with an axe, crying out “Apples are the best! Ask anyone! I’m an Apple Man, through and through!”

    While hacking away at the trunk of the apple tree with all his might, urging newcomers over to help, handing them axes.

    Anyone objects and they scream at them “NO!!! I already SAID! Apples are the BEST!” blocks them from protecting the tree, rushes out to Home Depot, picks up day laborers to hack at it faster.

    How autistic are you, to think you’re MORE loyal to apples by hacking away at anything that is not specifically and literally and exclusively JUST the fruit?

    Fucking BRANCHES!?!? Fucking ROOTS????? Ew, Ickickick! Gosh I hate notapples. GET them! Get them all!

    #187093
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @jb_hb

    Apples, apple trees, axes, etc. Apropos beyond description. All the way back to (and definitely including) that dust up back in the Garden of Eden. HE TOLD you not to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, but you just had to take that first bite and NOW look at the fine mess that you’ve got us into! I’m thinking so hard with so much knowledge that my head’s about to explode, and things are still going to Hell in a handbasket.

    #187094
    jb-hb
    Participant

    The pilot had 45 hrs of flight time. Fuck, they won’t let you take a call at the call center with only 45 hours of training!

    I’ve seen commentary asking why they turned their transponder off, leaving the airport and planes blind to their location – uhm, okay question I guess

    …but why are they doing training flights through the airport? Does the military not have bases in areas where people can fly around, NOT over airports?

    I’ve seen pics of the pilot smiling at the white house with the usual LGBT paraphernalia and dyed hair. Was their flight training over the busy Washington DC airport rather than scrubland in Nebraska so that this woman could Live Her Best Life and stay connected to self-actualizing self-advancement and political networking in Washington DC? Just like we prioritize for every student pilot, right?

    Surely she wasn’t able to fly a helicopter around a busy metropolitan area with, for all intents and purposes, virtually the same as NO flight experience, for political/ideological reasons? Focus on the transponder though.

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/img_4478-1.jpg?w=691&ssl=1

    #187095
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I guess her Flight Instructor was more of a Flight “Suggestor”, based on his allowing her to disobey his advice. Back in the day when actual men flew aircraft, and instructed newbies how to do same, the Instructor would have taken control of the aircraft without hesitation, given the newbie a well deserved beating after the landing, and made sure that the defiant moron never lay hands on the controls of another military aircraft in the future… like ever. Don’t fuck with real pilots, and the corollary to that immutable law of the Universe is that if you even can fuck with them then they’re not really a pilot in the first place.

    #187096
    jb-hb
    Participant

    She was clearly well-connected – visiting the White House, doing nighttime helicopter training through an urban environment with 45hrs of flight time, etc. I assume with her looks, her obvious connections, an the obvious amount of pull altering how she was treated in the military, she was being groomed for a political future.

    It’s possible that, by the criteria she was used to functioning in, things a lower social rank person said to her would be considered less important than her own thoughts/words/actions/etc. Social ranking value as opposed to flight instruction based value.

    So the beta male assigned to her in this totally strings-pulled situation in which she is accustomed to obstacles, problems, being cleared for her, warns her, and she perhaps never had consequences in her life outside negotiating social hierarchies. She makes the “correct” evaluation of her own social standing vs his, knows she can continue doing what she wants? The instructor seems unnaturally deferential in how he phrases his direction for such a newb trainee. like if I had the CEO’s daughter doing a side-by-side with me in the call center on her first day of taking calls.

    The mere fact she was in DC at all is proof positive that she was purely a political creature.

    Her handlers would have been of the same mindset – stationed for your first 1,000 hours of flight time in North Dakota?!?! When square states are so very most icky? Heavens no.

    In fact, someone forcing it on us, that our mascot must be sent off to scrubland somewhere for training would demean us, diminish us. Conversely, forcing the military to train her over the skies of DC would be a demonstration of, therefore a reinforcement of, our power.

    #187097
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    More on helicopter pilots…

    Last week, “the Black Hawk was due to attend a Day Without Hate event” at a high school. The helicopter landed at the wrong school, off the target by 4 miles.

    U.S. Army Black Hawk Lands at the Wrong School

    https://theaviationist.com/2025/04/29/us-army-black-hawk-lands-wrong-school/

    #187098
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @jb_hb
    Excellent speculative analysis. Your scenario is more finely grained than my “Visualization of the Cosmic All” in this case, but is otherwise the same in all of its pertinent details. Times have changed, but the laws of physics haven’t, nor the consequences of stupidity in high places. Things that break stop working.

    #187099
    jb-hb
    Participant

    The instructor/copilot would have been a political or at least quasi-political creature themselves – the social/career “dangers” of strongly contradicting her or overriding her at the controls were more real to him than the upcoming collision that he correctly predicted! He knew what was happening and somehow did NOT act to save himself.

    Possibly other instructors already tried to ground her? Refused to fly with her? (how did she end up with an instructor who behaved like this?) Certainly her political handlers murdered that plane full of civilians. For petty reasons. Couldn’t even send their mascot to tough it out in Alaska for 6 months or something.

    #187100
    John Day
    Participant

    President Trump Says Jeff Bezos “Did The Right Thing” After Phone Call Over Plan to Display China Tariff Costs on Amazon Products https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/video-president-trump-says-jeff-bezos-did-right/

    #187101
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Real pilots are a breed apart. Truly, and that is not an overstatement.

    Few people are able to even imitate what pilots do, and tend to think of being a pilot as “flying an airplane.” Oh, no, no, no, no noooooo. That is such a tiny part of it. You can teach any reasonably healthy human being to fly an airplane.

    What real pilots do is something that the vast majority of humans never even contemplate, and would refuse to do even if they knew what it was.

    When a real pilot steps into an aircraft they are awarely taking full personal responsibility for everything and everybody that could have any effect upon the successful completion of the upcoming flight. They know that their own lives, the lives of everyone on-board (and many people on the ground, too) depend on how well they, as pilot, do their job until everyone is safely back on the ground and de-planed.

    Maybe one person out of a thousand has that kind of stuff, and I’m probably overgenerous in that estimate. My Dad logged 15,000 hours at the controls by the time he was 30. All of closest friends were pilots too (or air crew) so I had the chance growing up to watch them in their natural habitat. What a bunch. You could trust them implicitly with everything but your girlfriend and/or your liquor.

    #187102
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “the defiant moron never lay hands on the controls of another military aircraft in the future… like ever.”

    alas, that we should all be defiant morons..

    #187103
    those darned kids
    Participant

    and aren’t the people killed in this horrible event just as valuable as the defiant moron was being trained to kill?

    #187104
    those darned kids
    Participant

    as the ones the..

    #187105
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “The mere fact she was in DC at all is proof positive that she was purely a political creature.”

    no. it is proof positive that humans are horrible, vicious animals who can’t evolve to a level where they stop killing each other.

    this person should not have been in the military because there should not be a military.

    #187106
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #187107
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “U.S. Army Black Hawk Lands at the Wrong School”

    well, at least they didn’t shoot up the wrong hospital this time.

    #187108
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Kilmar Abrego Garcia Accused Of Being “Gang Member” In 2018 Sworn Affidavit
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/kilmar-abrego-garcia-accused-being-gang-member-2018-sworn-affidavit

    Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the ‘wrongly deported Maryland Dad’ that Democrats dropped everything to defend, was accused of being a gang member in a 2018 sworn affidavit by the father of his wife’s children.

    “She [Vasquez Sura] try to kill herself and she left the kids with 11 year [old] to take care of them. And I’m afraid my kids lives are in danger because she is dating a gang member,”

    Three years later, Vasquez Sura applied for a protective order against Abrego Garcia, claiming that he punched, scratched and grabbed her – leaving her with bruises and bleeding.

    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/AP_17316795214740-1_H_2500.jpg

    He was WITH a bunch of gang members when they got him!

    we’ve learned that Abrego Garcia was suspected by a Tennessee state trooper of human trafficking in 2022 after he was pulled over for driving erratically in a black 2001 Chevrolet Suburban – owned by another individual, full of people – and that the SUV was owned by a man who was himself deported after pleading guilty to smuggling illegal aliens in 2020.

    https://www.startpage.com/av/proxy-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnn%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F180213170557-modern-day-slavery-protest-la-story-top.jpg&sp=1746032051T2f18c5c8e783c7719f3f8706a6adedd4a334614f7a22910e5f7b53d930cdd4cc

    Human Trafficking = Slavery

    Democrats: “no slave is illegal”

    Presumably, THIS is the hill Democrats are willing to die on because of how many OTHERS like Kilmar Abrego they have in the country working for them. They must demonstrate their ability, their power to shield them. Mafia stuff. There’s an organization that falls apart if they do not do this, therefore screw the optics.

    Ergo, the Democrats (or whatever is behind them) judges this organization, network, whatever, as even more vital than the viable existence of the Democratic party.

    And what does this tell us about the time-horizon for planning – for the powers causing this thing? Shorter than the next presidential cycle? Shorter than mid-terms? WHEN and WHY will elections not matter?

    #187109
    those darned kids
    Participant

    killing is not normal.

    no other animal is so stupid.

    aren’t you embarrassed that you talk of these things as if they are “normal”?

    the existence of blackhawk helicopters should trouble your very soul.

    who cares who flies them!?!?!?

    it is horrible that people have died so idiotically, but each one of these machines that crumbles is a victory for common sense, justice, and frankly your freakin’ kids.

    trash the godforsaken abominations and grow up.

    #187110
    WES
    Participant

    I have never been in the armed forces, so I only have my Father’s wisdom to rely upon.

    Everybody seems to overlook the basic fact that the woke female helicopter pilot was a commissioned officer, while her lower ranked co-pilot was not an officer.

    The non-officer had no choice but obey her decision without question.

    The co-pilot by suggesting they turn left, came as close to questioning her decision, without directly questioning her decision, as he dared.

    If the co-pilot had directly questioned her decision, or had taken over the controls, he risked ending his career on the spot.

    The co-pilot basically had little/no choice but obey his commanding officer, for better or worst.

    This non-officer training an officer situation should never have happened in the first place.
    The training co- pilot for an officer, should always be a more senior officer, who could easily over-ride a junior officer without incident.

    #187111
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “this person should not have been in the military because there should not be a military.”

    Do send us pictures of the large sign you put out in your front yard, one with big lettering, declaring:

    “This is a gun-free zone. No knives or baseball bats either. This household never calls the police. Self-Defense Has No Home Here”

    #187112
    WES
    Participant

    DEI Pilots:

    One thing about DEI pilots is that that their failures quickly rise to the surface.

    A crash basically ends their flying careers for good.

    That DEI F-35 navy pilot crashing into the aircraft carrier probably used up her life’s quota for F-35s and won’t ever fly again. No aircraft carrier wants her.
    The DEI Blackhawk pilot quickly proved her incompetence for keeps.
    Those 2 DEI pilots crashing their passenger plane in Toronto, will probably never fly again as no insurance company will insure them.

    So problem DEI pilots, self correct themselves.

    My Father operated a very large fleet of float planes up in Canada’s north.
    He always said if a pilot ever crashed an air plane in suspicious circumstances, they would never fly again because no one would ever hire them!

    #187113
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #187114
    Bam_Man
    Participant

    @WES

    I believe the instructor was a Warrant Officer and the DEI pilot was a Captain.
    Chances are that the Warrant Officer had many more years of service and combat experience as well.
    In such a situation, the Captain would not dare to “pull rank” on a Warrant Officer many years her senior.
    But it has been more than 40 years since I served in the Army as a commissioned officer and who knows how screwed up things are now.

    #187115
    those darned kids
    Participant

    like talking to yesterday..

    #187116
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “i choose only the very best killers for my empire promulgation!”

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