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  • #187743
    Michael Reid
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    #187744
    zerosum
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    “And as soon as it was advanced by the (U.S. administration of Donald Trump), it was supported by President (Vladimir) Putin with the reservation that it is very difficult to discuss this in detail if no answers are found to a large number of nuances around the notion of a ceasefire.”

    Russia has repeatedly said that introducing a prolonged ceasefire depends on establishing mechanisms to monitor and uphold such a move.

    #187745
    TAE Summary
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    * All regimes with nuclear power also have nuclear weapons. Luckily Germany, Netherlands, Brazil and Japan are not regimes
    – JD Vance

    – Trump is distancing himself from Netanyahu; They are now separated by 3 angstroms

    * New targeted KFC ad campaign: Come to rob our cashiers, stay for the chicken

    * Public opinion has no impact on public policy; Anyone who has ever been to a school board meeting already knew this

    * If they want fewer meat stacks on the planet they’ll get fewer meat stacks on the planet

    * I hate opera; When one note is Offenbach eventually it destroys the whole symphony

    * Things are going on behind the scenes with Casey Means
    – Surgeon from the Greek cheir = hand + ergon = job
    – General from the Latin genus = class
    – Casey is probably a lot more qualified than we know

    * Arthur Miller is updating his play with Willy Loman as a Pharma Rep and renaming it to Death from a Salesman

    * I saw the slattern in the molten bronze and I cast until I set her free
    – Thomas Price

    * Politics is morals in inaction; If you don’t know something it’s the government’s fault

    * We all have blood on our hands
    Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement
    When the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves
    (But) the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place
    And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand
    When the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it
    From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.
    – Isaiah

    #187746
    Doc Robinson
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    If slaves eat the food provided to keep them alive, are they complicit in the slavery?

    #187747
    jb-hb
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    That’s great that Smedley Butler and United Fruit were operating as philanthropist-looters

    clearly did all they did just trying to be evil in order to be charitable to me. Read my mind and decided it was really what I needed without consulting me. Does this function like TrumpTelepathy™?

    Really selfless to take the evil on themselves just to give me bananas.

    oh wait no, I’m supposed to take all their evil on MYSELF.

    So still collective guilt, since the weight of ALL the sins of United Fruit before we were born must push down on each banana eater in full. MULTIPLICATION of collective guilt, even!

    So you’re just RE STATING collective guilt, you just decided to do ECONOMIC collective guilt, which totally doesn’t have marxist academic underpinnings, right?

    Back up and prove collective guilt, THEN prove economic collective guilt, THEN convince me I should participate.

    You’re like a Christian who, upon hearing there’s no proof for ONE thing, just starts witnessing 42,631 MORE things that they ALSO would have to prove.

    #187748
    Doc Robinson
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    “Casey Means, the new Trump nominee for US Surgeon General doesn’t even have an active medical license”

    The current acting Surgeon General is a “nurse” administrator who probably hasn’t done clinical practice since starting to work for the FDA in 2002. Fun fact — she’s the one who “authorized the emergency use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine”, since she was “the FDA’s chief scientist” in 2020.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denise_Hinton

    The Biden administration’s acting Surgeon General at the start of the term was also a “nurse” administrator, not an M.D.

    #187750
    Michael Reid
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    Fun fact — she’s the one who “authorized the emergency use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine”

    #187751
    Michael Reid
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    #187752
    Michael Reid
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    #187753
    Dr D Rich
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    @Doc_Robinson

    “Nurse” surgeon.

    Finally someone else noticed.

    In my residency program, 2 out 12 residents never successfully completed a single cataract surgery.
    Let that stat sink in.
    There are only false equivalencies.

    The WA State Medical License imposes an affirmative duty on physicians to prevent others from harming their patient. Others means everyone else in the hospital
    Nurses aren’t junior physicians or surgeons.

    Ask miker if he and his ilk would ever tolerate a non-nurse or better yet, an LPN or corpsman being The Director of Nursing?
    Watch the heads explode

    Pink Flamingos rule!!

    The dude that authored this nonsense as a matter of Public Policy through Rand Corp was Alain Enthoven way back in the ’60s.
    Why?
    Because the politicans, businessmen and attorneys determined doctors had too much independence and authority over their profession. Notice the Nurses weren’t even factored into the equation

    Virginia Slims

    “You’ve come a long way baby!”

    #187754
    D Benton Smith
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    Kicking the shit out of all the bad people does have a certain appeal to the adolescent mind. It sure sounds eaier and more immediately emotionally gratifying than takinng personal responsibility for our own condition. Too bad it won’t work. The bombs needed to drop (and the aircraft to drop them) all belong to the folks that you propose dropping them on, which sets up a serious logistics problem.
    Same story for the cops, courts and congressmen you’ll needed to manage and execute the proposed dragnet. I suppose you could ask them real nice to arrest, convict, and imprison themselves and hope that they go for it, but I see problems in that direction, too. Go try it and then get back to me on how it goes.
    Then there’s the granddaddy of the aforementioned problems, which is that the system you intend to fix is the same system that you use to live, pay your bills, and protect you from the boogeyman. Your enemy is you. YOU are a working cog of the machine that you say is grinding you up. Well, you’re sure right about that. It is grinding you up.
    We’re like monkeys with our greedy graspy grip hanging on for dear life to a handful of bait that prevents us from extracting our hand from the monkey trap.
    The only way out of the trap is to let go of the freebie bait and go earn our living the hard way, but that requires a tad more wisdom and courage than the average monkey can muster at the moment.
    Looks like we’re either going to need smarter monkeys or more personal responsibility.

    #187755
    Dr D Rich
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    ZeroHedge

    ….a trusted source.

    Propaganda or Capitulation????

      According to the Reuters report, “since U.S. President Donald Trump imposed steep tariffs on China last month, Beijing had responded in kind. On state and social media, it posted images of Mao Zedong, lambasted “imperialists,” and sent a message: capitulation to bullies is dangerous, and it wouldn’t back down.”

      But behind closed doors, China was quietly preparing to do just that, and Reuters reports that according three sources, officials had grown “increasingly alarmed about tariffs’ impact on the economy and the risk of isolation as China’s trading partners have started negotiating deals with Washington.”

      China’s reasons for deciding to negotiate, Washington’s letter on fentanyl, U.S. diplomatic challenges in Beijing, and the early outreach between the two sides are reported by Reuters for the first time, based on interviews with nearly a dozen government officials and experts on both sides.

    #187756
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Which LeadershipS would starve their Ppl to death in the 21st Century?

    1. Russia
    2. Israel
    3. China
    4. United States

    #187757
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Let’s examine Collective Guilt Math.

    United Fruit’s actions were 0.0152 Hitlers. For argument’s sake, let’s say that.

    1 billion customers have eaten United Fruit bananas. 0.0152 Hitlers/1,000,000,000 customers = 0.0000000000152 Hitlers.

    It is difficult to express how little guilt I should feel – if I express it in PicoHitlers™, then I should feel 15.2 PicoHitlers™ of guilt about the bananas.

    Maybe this seems too large, so I will express the same amount in NanoHitlers™. I should feel 0.00152 NanoHitlers™ of guilt about the bananas.

    Wait, but that can’t be right, can it? I feel at least 0.01 MicroHitlers™ worth of guilt when I forget to feed my cat and am an hour late! That’s many thousands of more minute fractions of Hitler level guilt.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix

    no, no, this seems wrong, that I should be able to walk around enjoying sunshine, breathing, holding babies, etc. I should be depressed. I should feel miserable and guilty anytime a banana comes up. I should randomly think of bananas and have my whole day – nay, whole life – ruined! I should eat the gruel people get to eat when released from The Matrix.

    Why though? Because I ought to be feeling the FULL FORCE of guilt over United Fruit. EACH OF US should be feeling the full force of the guilt over united fruit!

    0.0152 Hitlers x 1,000,000,000 customers = 15,200,000 Hitlers!

    There ought to be 15.2 MegaHitlers™ of guilt out there on planet earth! Over the 0.0152 Hitlers worth of evil that was committed!

    15.2 MegaHitlers™!!!!!!!

    Is not guilt perhaps ITSELF corrosive, harmful in its nature? Can we see any evident suffering, insanity, chaos, problems emerging from non-dischargable guilt?

    United Fruit is hardly at the top of the Guiltlist.

    If we add every last thing we could experience communal group guilt over, what is it? GigaHitlers™ of Collective Guilt? Never! PetaHitlers™? Don’t be absurd. Surely YotaHitlers™ of Collective Guilt, at a bare minimum, should be swirling around the Earth, impacting and buffeting all Earth-dwelling humans as they try to go about their business, surely, like people trying to walk to the burger joint on their 30 minute break or push a shopping cart of food to their car in a hurricane. Surely the Shared Guilt should knock them all down, leave them clinging to the PigglyWiggly™ parking lot asphalt trying not to be blown away.

    We GenXers heard this CONSTANTLY from teachers, public speakers, boomers everywhere, “we” hold tremendous guilt, “we” are tremendously wasteful, YOU are going to have to “change the world,” YOU are going to have to Save The Planet.

    At least we lived with it up close and built up an immunity to it, to mock it – most of us. For Millenials, it seems like it was more crushing due to being less personal and coming more from authority figures and institutions. For Gen Z’ers, it’s a cartoonified, clownified, exaggerated version of Boomer Wisdom, amped to not 11 but a billion because they’re on death’s doorstep and are determined to “leave their mark”

    The insanity that the Boomer Paradigm has snowballed up to is massive. Students are openly being taught by teachers to hate themselves, that their very existence is a sin on the planet, that everything they do is guilt-ridden, that even if they are passive, they hold tremendous non-dischargable guilt from multiple group-guilt vectors. This is why, for instance, people are going insane and taking castration drugs and going through surgeries or trying to groom others for it – to escape the identity which carries the unbearable group guilt. You would snip the cable bringing current to the torture device shocking you, wouldn’t you?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvcUyEnXsmU

    But this is how we have been implicitly valuing – or being told to – value our LIVES for decades. To organize our politics. To direct our economies.

    But maybe perfection was never, ever in the cards. Maybe Jordan Peterson tells Marxists to clean their room because in just trying to make your room actually nice, you find how tough perfection is – just with one room. And to improve your environment, the part under your control and responsibility, is to improve your psyche – there is no difference

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdsLeeQ4s_Q

    It is a noted tactic of Malignant Narcissists who live in a household with their victim, that when their victim does something good, they pounce on them in the act and assail them with all the things they are NOT doing. It demoralizes. It takes the wind out of their sails. To be in a positive mood is definitionally a mood in which positive things can be done. They learn, painfully, that sullen passivity is the only thing that avoids pain.

    you do not deserve to be in a positive mood – AND you ought to do absolutely every conceivable positive thing which is a total impossibility. ALSO impossible, as you need your BRAIN in order to do anything, including positive things, and definitionally, a positive mind state is one in which positive things can be done. In any other state, it cannot be done.

    Unless you want to be negative and insane and not do positive things and perhaps do evil things, you will grant that you must be sane and have a positive state. Therefore you choose the scope under your command and improve it – BUT ALSO, you must have the confidence to reject these sorts of infinite demands on one’s conscience. To laugh at them as the falsities they are. Reject “consciousness-expansion.” Reject the breaking down of barriers and boundaries. Reject infinity.

    #187758
    those darned kids
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    órale..

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