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    Paul Gauguin Sheperd and sheperdess in a meadow 1888   • MSM Gets History & Russia All Wrong AGAIN (RT) • Trump Has ‘No Problem’ Releasing Se
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle November 9 2019]

    #51178
    V. Arnold
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    Paul Gauguin Sheperd and sheperdess in a meadow 1888
    Lovely but, what is that horizontal line about 1/3 from the top all about?
    Kinda messes with the view, no?

    #51179
    V. Arnold
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    After I left the U.S., almost 20 years ago, I decided my knowledge of history was shit!
    As the worm turns; I was indeed correct!
    So, I’ve spent a good deal of the last 17 years on a self driven, history lesson.
    It’s still a work in progress; but I can report, with confidence, it has been well worth the effort.
    The amount of historical bullshit is exponentially huge. And without a personel commitment to weed out the facts; you understand and believe bullshit!
    Good luck…it’s a long trudge through the dregs of perceived knowledge/facts…

    #51181
    Doc Robinson
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    Africa stands out on the map showing The Countries Most in Debt to China. Yet, according to the Jubilee Debt Campaign, only 20% of African debt is owed to China.

    …of external debt owed by African governments, around 20% is owed to China, 35% is owed to multilateral lenders [such as the World Bank], 32% to private lenders and 13% to other governments. However, interest rates tend to be higher on private sector loans, which therefore account for 55% of interest payments, compared to China which accounts for 17% of interest payments.

    The briefing also investigates who debt is owed to by the countries that currently have the greatest debt problems. Of the 16 African countries rated by the IMF as in debt distress or at high risk of being so, on average 15% of their debt is owed to China. China is therefore on average a less significant lender in debt crisis countries, than across the whole continent.

    Tim Jones, Economist at the Jubilee Debt Campaign, said:
    “Debt problems are worsening on the African continent, but many lenders bear responsibility, not just China. We need new rules to make all lenders publicly disclose loans to governments at the time they are given. Furthermore, the IMF needs to stop responding to debt crises by giving loans which bailout other lenders, from China to Western companies, incentivising them to continue lending recklessly. Instead, lenders need to be made to restructure and reduce debts.

    https://jubileedebt.org.uk/press-release/african-governments-debt-payments-double-in-just-two-years

    #51183
    zerosum
    Participant

    @Doc Robinson
    I looked a little deeper
    edit: I don’t know how to fix the link so that the picture are eliminated

    https://jubileedebt.org.uk/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Who-is-Africa-debt-owed-to_10.18.pdf
    Africa’s growing debt crisis: Who is the debt owed to?
    October 2018

    Response to the IMF response on bailing out reckless lenders


    Response to the IMF response on bailing out reckless lenders
    8 Oct 2019

    It took a year to answer the report.

    The rich and powerful have not changed and will not change what works for them.
    Business as usual

    the IMF needs to stop responding to debt crises by giving loans which bailout other lenders, from China to Western companies, incentivising them to continue lending recklessly. Instead, lenders need to be made to restructure and reduce debts.”

    If you have been following the Biden saga, then you know that the lawyers and the accountants are the enablers of all scams. (They are the ones who write the laws to make everything legal for their masters)

    #51184
    Dr. D
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    “intercept Trump before he can enact his latest “wacky or destructive idea.” “…‘He can’t do this. We’ll all look like idiots, and he’ll get murdered for it in the press,’”

    Adding from earlier, so their job is to STOP the elected side of the government from enacting policy? So who’s the UNelected side? How is that not insubordination or worse? And okay, so Trump keeps THEM busy by calling them all day, making them run around like mental midgets. OMG, I would pay $1000 if he would just do this all day and live stream it for me. So if these are the traitors, fighting feverishly AGAINST the people’s candidate, then isn’t the best POSSIBLE use of their, of John Bolton’s and Jim Comey’s time to be made to fly in circles instead of undermining the American people’s vote quietly and effectively? And since we know this, and Bolton is obstructing and undermining, the State Dept is obstructing and undermining, trying to keep wars going in Afghanistan and Syria, then who’s quietly doing the back-channel deals while these morons are kept in a lather?

    Oh and since I’m some idiot 1,000 miles away reading NBC with no inside information and I can see this, how mentally incapable are these midgets? I mean they went to Columbia and Yale, so given, but I thought they could read the paper and tie their shoes. Nope!

    “He comments on makeup. He makes jokes about weight. He critiques clothing.”

    You mean the way he talked about ‘nuking hurricanes’ until he caught the latest Resistance leaker? Because if you don’t give them good material, they won’t scurry off to sell it to CNN. You mean that kind of dumb, unstrategic boss? Please, please keep going. So many of us on the memeboards are having a FANTASTIC, hilarious time, every day, keeping these chuckleheads running around like a 12-year-old with a tin soldier set.

    “the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain”

    So many things wrong. So you geniuses know who Putin’s spies are, and you want to tell Putin and let them go??? Instead of quietly following them to see who they’re talking to??? You’re fired. From your job scrubbing toilets at Denny’s. …Oh and I see a lot of this. You know, like the time Cheney outed Plame and blew up everything the CIA cover-companies had built in Africa in the last 20 years, blinding the nation for decades and opening the region to China? And do you love Russian spies, or hate them? Because apparently you want to destroy our edge in espionage to DEFEND a Russian spy in Britain??? Who also WASN’T killed, and in fact no one’s seen him, the poison, the doorknob, the tapes, even though Britain’s top Nurse was right next to him in the park that day, 10 miles from Britain’s chemical weapons lab.

    And as every third sentence, the Steady State is mad the PEOPLE’S State is telling them what to do: get out, knock it off, go home. And they will fight the PEOPLE, their representatives, and any peace or rapprochement to the death. And are.

    We are removing any and all mentions of the potential whistleblower’s name and will revisit this decision should their name be widely published in the media or used by public figures in the debate,”

    You mean like should it be headline news in the Drudge Report, for a week with 1M readers a day? Or spoken by Donald Trump Jr on the largest daytime TV show in America? That kind of mention? THEN you’ll reinstate it?

    P.S. as per the IMPOSSIBLE, beyond Denny’s janitor, but possibly even Columbia and YALE stupid, thanks for confirming his identity for us, morons. If it wasn’t him, we didn’t know, there would have been no reaction, the oldest intel trick in the book, used by Ogg against Grogg. Oh and pretty much ALSO confirmed that his Facebook page and social media, his connections? …Super juicy. The wayback machine is going to be RED hot tonight for this guy, and all thanks to YOU, Zuck, Behar. He dropped out of Harvard but just too much stupid rubbed off on him first.

    “Trump On Impeachment: ‘They Shouldn’t Be Having Public Hearings’ (Hill) “

    He’s right: you don’t have a trial BEFORE the trial. The trial, the hearings are the purview of the SENATE, AFTER a real and legal impeachment vote, which is their JOB, their DUTY. Doing this taints both the evidence AND the proceedings, adds witness tampering, and in fact gives a guilty man 100x more chance to ward off a real trial. …Which is why you know it isn’t real but election-rigging. …The polls also say this is not working. Reds don’t care, and Blues want them to do their job and help voters instead.

    “Trump’s personal gain over that of the people.”

    What if Trump’s personal gain or interests WERE that of the people? Would that still be illegal? You know, such as prosecuting crimes he suspects may have been committed? Then it would be appropriate EVEN IF it was also his personal gain. And as a few weeks ago, the only way you can NOT be accused of this is if you always advocate for the OPPOSITE of your own beliefs and interests. So is that not what we ELECT people for? To get someone in there whose interests align with our own, and therefore can follow them at will? They have a very odd understanding of government if Congressmen are required to work AGAINST their interests and against their own election, but most of Congress does work against us so they must be doing something right.

    “Trump’s personal legal defense should not involve using the powers of the presidency — potentially without the property security clearances — to gain exculpatory evidence.”

    Of course not. Similar to the Assange and Flynn trial, the proper purpose of government is to HIDE all exculpatory evidence. Oh wait. No it isn’t. It’s the Executive’s job TO find and reveal exculpatory evidence to the Defense, and has been for 230 years. In fact, just as Snowden says, “The government believes that telling the truth is a crime worse than murder”, the WaEx believes that investigating potential crimes and handling the evidence discovered according to Federal Law is an impeachable offense. That is, in #AntiLogos land, OBEYING THE LAW IS THE ONLY CRIME. And it’s only if you haven’t committed a crime, like Assange, that you must be arrested.

    “all the Lawfare ninjas on God’s green earth will not avail to rescue the Democratic Party’s lost honor..”

    Sadly. Nobody wants this. And if we have one party, what will we do then? The right will immediately go a-field as any unrestrained force does, tho as ever it may take a while.

    “A judge has ordered the release from jail of former President of Brazil Lula da Silva until his appeal process ends”

    So Brazil says you can’t be imprisoned until the last appeal ends, 40 years from now. Crime-on, Wayne!

    “A nice graph from Statista,”

    Also hilarious. How are they gonna collect? Occupy Africa and Bolivia? If we ain’t gonna pay, they CERTAINLY aren’t going to pay. …And that’s why we’re going to get a new financial system.

    And P.S. apparently it was Adam Schiff who outed “Charlie” Ciaramella, when he forgot to redact one of his documents. That’s how RealClearPol got it.

    #51185
    zerosum
    Participant

    then who’s quietly doing the back-channel deals while these morons are kept in a lather?

    Hahahah!
    definition of Quid pro quo

    #51188
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Ogg and Grogg both thank you for correcting the benighted historical record and spelling their names correctly.

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