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Vincent van Gogh Pollard willows at sunset 1888

 

US Spies Say ‘Pro-Ukrainian Group’ Bombed Nord Stream – NYT (RT)
US Intelligence Now Says Pro-Ukraine Mystery Forces Destroyed Nord Stream (ZH)
US Media Leaks On Nord Stream Sabotage Intended Only To Confuse – Russia (TASS)
Russian Lawmaker Calls NYT Article On Nord Stream Sabotage ‘Red Herring’ (TASS)
Support For Aid To Ukraine Declines Across West (RT)
Ukrainian Loses Over 11,000 Troops In February, 40% Jump – Shoigu (TASS)
‘Black Hole’: Ukrainian Army Faces Nightmare In Bakhmut – DPR Adviser (TASS)
US Seeking To Contain China – Xi (RT)
China Staying True To Its Own Politics Amid Global Changes – Top Diplomat (TASS)
Ukraine Crisis Led By ‘Washington’s Hand’ Seeking To Continue Conflict (TASS)
Zelensky Is ‘Just Scum’ – Belarusian President (RT)
US-backed Attempts To Drag Belarus Into Ukraine War To Fail – Lukashenko (TASS)
WHO’s Unprecedented Power to Override National Sovereignty (CHD)
Oh Boy… (Denninger)
Fox News Hit With Election Complaint (RT)
US Lawmakers Call For Declassified Covid Origins Report (RT)

 

 

 

 

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The first significant known lead…..

The New York Times never reported on the Sy Hersh story, How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline. Instead, they come up with a whole new story, without even mentioning Hersh. You’d think that if they found anything untrue in his story, they’d run with that. They did not.

Their anonymous sources claim a private group of “Ukrainian or Russian nationals” hired a boat and did the deed. Even if right after the September 2022 attack, everyone agreed this would have taken a sophisticated state actor. Avoiding detection would have been hard enough, drilling holes into the think concrete wall of the pipes, placing over 1,000 pounds of “military grade” explosives, etc etc. But the purpose of the NYT story is not to prove anything, it’s just to sow doubt about Hersh’s story.

Hersh was adamant that it was the US -and Norway- who conducted the attack. Now there may be Ukrainians or Russians involved. And you don’t have to go into details (as Hersh did) to plant some doubt. But you can state that no Americans were involved. You don’t have to prove that either. You can just say it. “Anonymous sources”. Obviously the NYT has no credibility as long as it ignores Hersh, but the home crowd doesn’t mind as long as they …ignore Hersh. Mum’s the word. That Hersh guy spent months just making it all up, no use addressing that.

US Spies Say ‘Pro-Ukrainian Group’ Bombed Nord Stream – NYT (RT)

Unspecified new intelligence “suggests that a pro-Ukrianian group” was behind the September 2022 attack on Nord Stream pipelines, the New York Times reported on Tuesday, quoting anonymous US officials. The Times’ entirely unnamed sources said they “believed the saboteurs were most likely Ukrainian or Russian nationals, or some combination of the two” and that “no American or British nationals were involved.” They further said they had no evidence Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky or his “top lieutenants” were involved, or that the “any Ukrainian government officials” directed the attack. The anonymous officials could not say who directed or paid for the “operation,” and said it was possible the attack “might have been conducted off the books by a proxy force with connections to the Ukrainian government or its security services.”

The bombs that tore apart three out of four strings of the pipelines under the Baltic Sea were “most likely” planted by experienced divers, “who did not appear to be working for military or intelligence services,” but may have received “specialized government training in the past,” the anonymous officials claimed. They also said US President Joe Biden and his top aides “did not authorize” the attack on Nord Stream and that “there was no US involvement” in it. These statements directly address last month’s report by investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, who accused the US of ordering the bombing and planting the explosives. While Western European officials also believe the attack was state-sponsored, “US officials have not stated publicly that they believe the operation was sponsored by a state,” the Times noted.

Some officials see “Ukraine and its allies” as having “the most logical potential motive” to destroy the pipelines. It was unclear who they meant by allies; though Poland has been the most outspoken critic of Nord Stream, the US and the entire NATO bloc have sent more than $100 billion worth of weapons and other aid to Kiev over the past year. “Any findings that put blame on Kyiv or Ukrainian proxies could prompt a backlash in Europe and make it harder for the West to maintain a united front in support of Ukraine,” the Times reporters noted. The Nord Stream explosions happened five weeks after the Moscow car bombing that killed Russian journalist Darya Dugina.

Anonymous US spies told the Times last October they believed “elements” within the Ukrainian government – but not Zelensky – were responsible, but declined to name anyone. Kiev has officially denied any responsibility whatsoever. “After the Nord Stream operation, there was hushed speculation – and worry – in Washington that parts of the Ukrainian government might have been involved in that operation as well,” the Times reported on Tuesday. The anonymous officials who spoke to the paper said there was “no evidence so far” the Ukrainian government was involved, and that President Joe Biden’s trust in Zelensky “has been steadily increasing.” The Times did acknowledge that American intelligence has “limited visibility into Ukrainian decision-making,” despite Kiev’s “deep dependence” on the US.

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“The CIA alleges that 5 random clowns in a sailboat penetrated the most highly patrolled body of water on earth, drilled through concrete at incredible depths, and planted 1,000 Kilograms of highly unstable C4 plastique, then remote detonated it with pulse sonar.”

US Intelligence Now Says Pro-Ukraine Mystery Forces Destroyed Nord Stream (ZH)

Last month, Pulitzer prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh concluded that the United States blew up the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream natural gas pipelines last September as part of a covert operation under the guise of the BALTOPS 22 NATO exercise. Now, four weeks after Hersh’s bombshell report, anonymous US intelligence officials tell the NY Times that the saboteurs are likely ‘pro-Ukraine, possibly government-trained Ukrainian or Russian nationals, or some combination of the two,’ but that ‘no American or British nationals were involved.’

“U.S. officials said that they had no evidence President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine or his top lieutenants were involved in the operation, or that the perpetrators were acting at the direction of any Ukrainian government officials. [..] U.S. officials said there was much they did not know about the perpetrators and their affiliations. The review of newly collected intelligence suggests they were opponents of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, but does not specify the members of the group, or who directed or paid for the operation. U.S. officials declined to disclose the nature of the intelligence, how it was obtained or any details of the strength of the evidence it contains. They have said that there are no firm conclusions about it, leaving open the possibility that the operation might have been conducted off the books by a proxy force with connections to the Ukrainian government or its security services.” -NY Times

The perpetrators were likely “experienced divers who did not appear to be working for military or intelligence services,” US officials said, adding that “it is possible that the perpetrators received specialized government training in the past.” According to one European lawmaker briefed late last year by his country’s primary foreign intelligence service, over 1,000 pounds of “military grade” explosives were used. ‘But it wasn’t us!’ the US insists. The Times also notes that the implications of Ukrainian involvement in the attack “whether direct or indirect,” which could “upset the delicate relationship between Ukraine and Germany, souring support among a German public that has swallowed high energy prices in the name of solidarity.”

“Since the explosions along the pipelines in September, there has been rampant speculation about what transpired on the sea floor near the Danish island of Bornholm. Poland and Ukraine immediately accused Russia of planting the explosives, but they offered no evidence. Russia, in turn, accused Britain of carrying out the operation — also without evidence. Russia and Britain have denied any involvement in the explosions. [..] Any findings that put blame on Kyiv or Ukrainian proxies could prompt a backlash in Europe and make it harder for the West to maintain a united front in support of Ukraine. U.S. officials and intelligence agencies acknowledge that they have limited visibility into Ukrainian decision-making.” -NYT

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“First of all, we took notice of the fact that the mentioned article instantly got a ‘green light’ in the local information field, literally being all over the media in a heartbeat.”

US Media Leaks On Nord Stream Sabotage Intended Only To Confuse – Russia (TASS)

US media leaks from anonymous sources about the sabotage attacks on Nord Stream pipelines are intended only to confuse those who are trying to find out the truth, Minister-Counselor of the Russian Embassy in the United States Andrey Ledenev said. Commenting on an article in the New York Times, the diplomat said: “First of all, we took notice of the fact that the mentioned article instantly got a ‘green light’ in the local information field, literally being all over the media in a heartbeat.” “This is especially noteworthy given the attempts of the local officials and journalists to blatantly silence the resonant material of the Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh on the same topic. As well as the administration’s opposition to launching a comprehensive and independent investigation into this act of international terrorism against critical energy infrastructure,” Ledenev was quoted as saying on the Russian embassy’s official Telegram channel.

In his words, “it looks like local authorities have something to hide given the fact they openly threatened the operation of the gas pipelines, and afterwards overtly savored their destruction,” especially since mutually beneficial cooperation between Russia and Europe “has always been like a thorn in Washington’s side.” “We have no faith in the ‘impartiality’ of the conclusions of the US intelligence. We perceive anonymous ‘leaks’ as nothing more than an attempt to confuse those who are sincerely trying to get to the bottom of things in this egregious crime. Shift the blame from the statesmen who ordered and coordinated the attacks in the Baltic Sea to some abstract individuals,” the Russian diplomat continued. “We are convinced that in the end justice will prevail. We shall spare no effort for this to happen,” he added.

The New York Times reported earlier on Tuesday, citing anonymous sources, that US intelligence has so far been unable to identify the mastermind of last September’s sabotage attacks that targeted the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 pipelines, which transported natural gas from Russia to Europe. The anonymous officials interviewed by the newspaper said there had been no firm conclusions about those responsible, thus leaving open “the possibility that the operation might have been conducted off the books by a proxy force with connections to the Ukrainian government or its security services.” Meanwhile, Germany’s Die Zeit newspaper wrote that German investigators had allegedly identified the vessel used in the attack. The company that leased it was owned by Ukrainian citizens.

On September 27, 2022, Nord Stream AG reported unprecedented damage that occurred the day before on three strings of the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 offshore gas pipelines. On September 26, 2022, Swedish seismologists registered two explosions on the pipeline routes. The Russian Prosecutor General’s Office launched a criminal case based on charges of international terrorism.

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“..leaving open “the possibility that the operation might have been conducted off the books by a proxy force..”

Russian Lawmaker Calls NYT Article On Nord Stream Sabotage ‘Red Herring’ (TASS)

Leonid Slutsky, the head of the Russian State Duma (parliament’s lower chamber) Committee on Foreign Affairs, said Tuesday’s New York Times article suggesting that a pro-Ukrainian group could be behind the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines was a “yet another red herring.” “The NYT article is a yet another red herring, aimed at distracting the public from real perpetrators by pointing to an abstract rebel group. But who would believe that an operation of this scope, which essentially is of military nature, can be carried out by a previously unknown sabotage group?” Slutsky wrote on his Telegram channel on Tuesday. In his opinion, this article should become a wake-up call for the Kiev government and President Vladimir Zelensky, “indicating that he and his ‘rebels’ will be cast away when the heat is on in Washington.”

The New York Times reported earlier on Tuesday, citing anonymous sources, that US intelligence has so far been unable to identify the mastermind of last September’s sabotage attacks that targeted the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 pipelines, which transported natural gas from Russia to Europe. The anonymous officials interviewed by the newspaper said there had been no firm conclusions about those responsible, thus leaving open “the possibility that the operation might have been conducted off the books by a proxy force with connections to the Ukrainian government or its security services.”

However, Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh on February 8 published an article where he said, citing a source, that explosives under the Russian Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines were planted by US Navy divers, helped by Norwegian specialists, under the guise of the Baltops exercise in June. The story stated that the CIA and Burns took part in the preparation of the operation, and US president Joe Biden personally authorized the operation after nine months of deliberations with the administration’s national security staff. On September 27, 2022, Nord Stream AG reported unprecedented damage that occurred the day before on three strings of the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 offshore gas pipelines. On September 26, 2022, Swedish seismologists registered two explosions on the pipeline routes. The Russian Prosecutor General’s Office launched a criminal case based on charges of international terrorism.

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Time for a false flag? BTW, where is the western coverage of these polls?

Support For Aid To Ukraine Declines Across West (RT)

A year into the Russia-Ukraine conflict, public support for military and financial assistance to Kiev is in decline in the West, a joint survey by the Economist magazine and the YouGov pollster has shown. Even the most ardent backers of Ukraine are now less enthusiastic about supporting the country, the Economist said in a report revealing the poll results on Monday. Among US Democrats, support for financial aid to Kiev fell from 82% to 75% between April 2022 and February 2023, the poll revealed. Republican support for similar measures almost halved over the same period, from 67% to 39%, it added. Sending battle tanks to Kiev still appeared to be a popular option, as their delivery to Ukraine was supported by 70% of Democrats and just under 50% of Republicans between late January and mid-February 2023.

A poll conducted by the Associated Press in mid-February showed, however, that less than a half of Americans support military aid to Kiev. Public backing for further restrictions against Moscow that could increase the cost of living in Europe has seen a sharp decline in major European nations over the past year, according to the poll. In February 2022, 45% of Britons said they would favour such sanctions, but in December 2022 the level of support for the measures dropped to 35% in the UK. In Germany, it fell from almost 40% to less than 30% over the same period, while Spain, Italy and France followed a similar trend. Another poll published by YouGov two weeks ago, on February 24, showed that people in some European nations, including France and Italy, tend to favor a negotiated solution to the conflict between Moscow and Kiev, over supporting Ukraine for “as long as it takes.”

In Italy, 47% of respondents said they would like to see a negotiated end of the fighting, even if it means Kiev having to cede control over some territories it considers its own to Russia. In France, 38% of people supported this option. Only 29% of Italians and 37% of the French believed Kiev should be supported further, even if it means the conflict will last longer. Major European nations also saw a decline in support for almost all types of aid to Kiev over the second half of 2022. Most Europeans also believed that conflict had reached a stalemate, with Spanish citizens believing Russia was gaining the upper hand in it. The idea that Kiev is winning the conflict was shared by only a small minority in the European nations covered by the poll.

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“..it’s surprising how the Kiev regime doesn’t care about its people, tolerating any cost to human life to please its Western handlers..”

No problem, we’ll say the same about Russia…

Ukrainian Loses Over 11,000 Troops In February, 40% Jump – Shoigu (TASS)

The losses of Ukrainian troops jumped by 40% in February, surpassing 11,000 people, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said during a conference call with top commanders of the Russian armed forces. “There’s considerable growth of losses among the personnel of the Ukrainian armed forces. In February alone, they increased by more than 40% compared with January and totaled more than 11,000 servicemen. In connection with this, it’s surprising how the Kiev regime doesn’t care about its people, tolerating any cost to human life to please its Western handlers,” he said.


The minister said it continues to be a priority for the Russian armed forces to preserve the lives and health of its personnel and civilians. Shoigu also said Russian troops will continue to perform missions as part of the special operation. The West, as part of the US strategy to “break Russia by force of weapons,” in ramping up arms shipments to Kiev but that doesn’t result in Ukrainian achievements on the battlefield, Shoigu said.

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“Zelensky has long called it a fortress city, the loss of which, in principle, would be tantamount to the loss of the frontline. This fortress city has now turned into a black hole that sucks in enemy manpower..”

‘Black Hole’: Ukrainian Army Faces Nightmare In Bakhmut – DPR Adviser (TASS)

The city of Artyomovsk (Ukrainian name – Bakhmut), which Kiev has for some time described as the Ukrainian forces’ impregnable fortress has turned into a veritable “black hole,” Yan Gagin, an adviser to the acting head of the Donetsk People’s Republic, said on the Rossiya-24 round-the-clock TV news channel. “He [Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky] has long called it a fortress city, the loss of which, in principle, would be tantamount to the loss of the frontline. This fortress city has now turned into a black hole that sucks in enemy manpower,” Gagin said. Artyomovsk is located in the Kiev-controlled part of the DPR. Fierce battles for the city are in progress.


According to the latest reports, the Russian forces have cut off or taken under fire control all paved roads to the city. Spring slush and mud greatly impede the delivery of supplies to Ukrainian troops in the city. On February 20, Zelensky vowed that the Ukrainian army would fight for Artyomovsk “as long as it is reasonable.” Additional units continue to be brought to the city. As retired Lieutenant-Colonel of the Lugansk People’s Republic’s militia Andrey Marochko told TASS, Kiev has even sent some under-age conscripts to the area of hostilities. On Monday, Gagin said that the Ukrainian troops in Artyomovsk were trapped just like they were in Debaltsevo in 2015.

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“He compared the US government to an athlete trying to trip their opponent instead of giving its best performance.”

US Seeking To Contain China – Xi (RT)

Chinese President Xi Jinping has publicly criticized the US and accused it of leading a Western attempt to “contain” his country. Foreign Minister Qin Gang also warned Washington to “hit the brakes” or risk “conflict and confrontation. “Western countries led by the United States have implemented all-round containment, encirclement and suppression of China, which has brought unprecedented severe challenges to our nation’s development,” Xi said in a rare verbal attack on Monday, as quoted by state media. The Chinese leader was meeting with industry and business groups during an annual gathering of an advisory body to the Communist Party. His speech focused on the national economy, with the remark about Washington’s policy illustrating what he called “uncertain and unpredictable factors” in the international environment, which also included the Covid-19 pandemic.

Xi normally refrains from targeted criticism of the US. Michael Swaine, a senior research fellow at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, told the New York Times that, to his knowledge, it was the first time the Chinese leader “has publicly come out and identified the US as taking such actions.” Meanwhile, another senior Chinese official accused Washington of using underhanded tactics on Tuesday. “The US claims that it seeks to out-compete China but does not seek conflict. Yet in reality, its so-called ‘competition’ means to contain and suppress China in all respects,” Foreign Minister Qin Gang said in a speech on the sidelines of an ongoing session of the Chinese legislature. He compared the US government to an athlete trying to trip their opponent instead of giving its best performance.

Washington wants Beijing not to push back when it is targeted by such action or slander, the minister suggested, adding that this was not possible. The US trajectory could lead to a disaster that no guardrails would be able to prevent, he warned. “If the US does not hit the brakes, but continues to speed down the wrong path, no amount of guardrails can prevent derailing and there will surely be conflict and confrontation,” said Qin, who previously served as the Chinese ambassador to the US. Washington has accused Beijing of undermining a “rules-based order” with its policies and imposed a number of economic restrictions, including last year’s ban on exporting certain semiconductors to the country. Tensions escalated further last month after Washington accused the country of flying a “spy balloon” over American soil, which China said was just a stray weather aircraft.

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“Beijing will always contribute to maintaining peace on the planet and preserving the existing world order..”

China Staying True To Its Own Politics Amid Global Changes – Top Diplomat (TASS)

Authorities in China will stick to an independent policy course against the backdrop of the drastic changes underway in the international arena, China’s top diplomat Qin Gang said on Tuesday. “Major changes, unseen in the past 100 years, are taking place globally. Under the circumstances, China will pursue a peaceful and independent foreign policy and stick to mutually advantageous strategies,” Qin told a press conference during the annual plenary meetings of the country’s top advisory and legislative bodies underway in Beijing this week. Beijing will always contribute to maintaining peace on the planet and preserving the existing world order, Qin added.


The first session of the 14th National People’s Congress (NPC), the country’s parliament) kicked off on Sunday and it will end on March 13. It coincided with the work of the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), the country’s top political advisor. This week, Chinese lawmakers and advisors are discussing key issues surrounding the country’s social and economic development, and coordinating domains for further reform. The sessions will result in the election of new top officials, including the Chinese vice-president and the premier of the State Council.

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No invisible hand.

Ukraine Crisis Led By ‘Washington’s Hand’ Seeking To Continue Conflict (TASS)

Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov disagreed with Chinese Foreign Minister Qin Gang’s opinion that the crisis in Ukraine was orchestrated by “an invisible hand.” According to the spokesman, it is the hand of the United States, which does not want the military conflict in Ukraine to end. “Here, perhaps, we can disagree with our Chinese friends,” Peskov told reporters at a briefing, commenting on the statement of the Chinese Foreign Minister. At the same time, the Kremlin spokesman made it clear right away that the disagreement was a joke.


“You know what the joke is? This is not an invisible hand, in fact, this hand is quite visible. This is the hand of the United States, the hand of Washington. Washington does not want this war to end, Washington wants and will do everything to continue this war. That is why this hand is visible,” Peskov said. Earlier on Tuesday, Chinese Foreign Minister Qin Gang said at the annual press conference on the sidelines of the National People’s Congress session that efforts to promote negotiations between Russia and Ukraine had failed. According to him, “an invisible hand is pushing the conflict towards further prolongation and escalation and is trying to use the crisis in Ukraine for its geopolitical purposes.”

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“If you think that by challenging us this way you’ll be able to drag us into the war tomorrow… then you are mistaken.”

Zelensky Is ‘Just Scum’ – Belarusian President (RT)

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has lashed out at his Ukrainian counterpart Vladimir Zelensky, accusing him of attempting to drag Belarus into Kiev’s conflict with Moscow. On Tuesday, Lukashenko told the media that a Russian A-50 surveillance aircraft sustained minor damage in a drone attack on the Machulishchy air base in Belarus last week, adding that the assault had been carried out by a “terrorist” recruit of Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU). “There can be only one conclusion… President Zelensky is just scum. Just scum, as such operations are never carried out without the consent of the head of state and the commander-in-chief. I am telling you this as a president,” the Belarusian leader said.

The exact word that Lukashenko used was “gnida”, which is Russian for louse egg or nit. According to Lukashenko, Zelensky “has been making circles around Belarus” and talking about signing “a non-aggression pact” between Kiev and Minsk under the auspices of the UN, but “at the same time” doing things like this. “I know that they want to drag us into the war on the order of the Americans,” Lukashenko said. In a comment addressing Zelensky’s government, he stated: “If you think that by challenging us this way you’ll be able to drag us into the war tomorrow… then you are mistaken.”

The Belarusian leader first revealed that Ukraine had offered “a non-aggression pact” to his country in late January. Back then, Lukashenko said such an agreement would have been excessive, as Minsk had no aggressive plans against its neighbor. Belarus is a close ally of Russia, with the two countries creating a joint military grouping on Belarusian territory in the fall. According to Minsk, this was needed to address perceived threats from the West, which he said is eager to involve Belarus in the Ukrainian conflict in order to extend the frontline and stretch the resources of the Russian forces.

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“..if you think that having thrown down this challenge you will drag us into the war which is already underway across the entire Europe, you are wrong..”

US-backed Attempts To Drag Belarus Into Ukraine War To Fail – Lukashenko (TASS)

Kiev is seeking to drag Belarus into the conflict in Ukraine on instructions from Washington but will not be able to do so, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko said on Tuesday. “If they plan to do it (and I know that they are seeking to drag us into the war on commands from the Americans), if you think that having thrown down this challenge you will drag us into the war which is already underway across the entire Europe, you are wrong,” the BelTA news agency quoted him as saying. Earlier on Tuesday, Lukashenko said that an agent of the Ukrainian special services and more than 20 of his accomplices had been detained in Belarus following an attempted act of sabotage against an A-50 long-range radar surveillance and control aircraft of the Russian aerospace forces. According to the Belarusian president, the plane did not sustain “any serious damage, but for, as they say, scratches and a hole in the hull.” Belarus has asked the Russian side to take this plane in for repairs and send another such plane instead, which was done.

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• “Empowering the WHO’s Emergency Committee “to override decisions made by sovereign nations regarding health measures.”

WHO’s Unprecedented Power to Override National Sovereignty (CHD)

Two World Health Organization (WHO) committees recently convened to discuss proposed amendments to the International Health Regulations (2005) (IHR) and the “zero draft” of a new global “pandemic treaty.” Media have focused primarily on the pandemic treaty, with the Biden administration recently reaffirming its commitment to finalizing it, and with The Associated Press (AP) reporting the treaty would not threaten national sovereignty. However, some experts warn the public should be more concerned about the proposed IHR amendments — which are more likely to be adopted — as they would give the WHO unprecedented power over national governments and override national sovereignty. Experts also say there are clear differences between the proposed IHR amendments and the pandemic treaty, even though the two are often conflated in public discourse.

Previous versions of the IHR have been in place since 1969. The current version was first enacted in 2005, in the aftermath of SARS-CoV-1. IHR amendments a ‘clear and present danger’ According to author and researcher James Roguski, “It seems nearly everyone is having difficulty maintaining clarity between the proposed amendments to the International Health Regulations and the proposed ‘Pandemic Treaty.’” Roguski, who has extensively researched both proposals, recently wrote on his blog that the “Zero Draft” of the Pandemic Treaty “is a real thing” but is also “a skillfully crafted decoy” designed to draw attention away from the proposed IHR amendments. He called these amendments — which the WHO’s Working Group on Amendments to the International Health Regulations (2005) discussed on Feb. 20-24 — “a clear and present danger.”

According to Reclaim the Net, the WHO, through the proposed IHR amendments, is “pushing to greatly expand its surveillance powers,” including requiring states to build “collaborative surveillance networks.” “The unelected health agency also wants increased influence over the targeting of ‘misinformation’ and ‘disinformation’” via the proposed amendments. According to the Brownstone Institute, the proposed amendments would “expand the definitions of pandemics [and] health emergencies, including the introduction of ‘potential’ for harm rather than actual harm” and would change the recommendations of the IHR for states “from ‘non-binding’ to mandatory.” The WHO’s director general would be empowered to “independently declare emergencies, and would grant the WHO “control over certain country resources.”

A total of 307 IHR amendments have been proposed. On his blog, Roguski compiled a list of the top 10 reasons to oppose the amendments. These include:
• Changing the WHO “from an advisory organization … to a governing body whose proclamations would be legally binding.” (Articles 1 and 42)
• Removing language preserving “respect for dignity, human rights and fundamental freedoms of people.” (Article 3)
• Giving the WHO “authority to require medical examinations, proof of prophylaxis, proof of vaccine and to implement contact tracing, quarantine and treatment.” (Article 18)
• Instituting “a system of global health certificates in digital or paper format.” (multiple articles and annexes)
• Empowering the WHO’s Emergency Committee “to override decisions made by sovereign nations regarding health measures.” (Article 43)

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“The Brady decision by the USSC makes clear that the prosecution must turn over all evidence they have which exculpates a defendant. It’s not optional and it dates to 1963.”

Oh Boy… (Denninger)

Well now there’s a problem. Tucker has released video that pretty-much blows a hole in the entire January 6th narrative. In fact, it blows it up, sets it alight and watches it burn to ash. This is a serious problem for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the number of people sitting in prison — or convicted on connived, false claims with no ability for their defense to access the evidence proving that in many cases they were escorted. At worst most of these people are guilty of trespass, but even there you likely can’t make it stick as trespass is voided if you’re invited or chaperoned, and its quite clear that at least in some cases — they are. There’s another problem too: The Brady decision by the USSC makes clear that the prosecution must turn over all evidence they have which exculpates a defendant. It’s not optional and it dates to 1963.


The violations here are severe and in fact it appears basically universal. Indeed the definition of malicious prosecution is to bring a case before the court where you know the exculpatory evidence is so strong you’d never win a conviction and you intentionally withhold it from the defense. That opens up the DOJ and even the individuals involved to personal liability. I have no idea how the DOJ thought they’d get away with this indefinitely, but apparently they did think they would. Well, not any more. Now the question becomes if the government will not live to its own laws, what remains? It’s not a pleasant question to ponder, but ponder it we must, and the implications do not just extend to January 6th. Unfortunately.

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They had the counter-attack ready on the shelf. Took just one day.

“MMFA has gone after Carlson numerous times, accusing him of everything from “election denial” to racism…”

Fox News Hit With Election Complaint (RT)

Media Matters for America has filed a Federal Election Commission complaint against Fox News, claiming the cable network has provided an illegal contribution to the Republican Party in the 2020 US election. MMFA’s head talked up the complaint on Monday, as Fox aired previously unavailable footage of the January 6 Capitol riot. Fox operates “more like a partisan operation than a news network,” Angelo Carusone told Democracy Now! on Monday evening, adding he anticipated “a lot more” FEC complaints going forward. The MMFA is basing its complaint on one of the documents produced in the ongoing defamation lawsuit against the cable network by Dominion Voting Systems, which is seeking $1.6 billion in damages. According to the discovery in that trial, Fox owner Rupert Murdoch gave then-President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and adviser, Jared Kushner, “confidential information” about a campaign ad for Democrat Joe Biden.

MMFA is arguing that the FEC “press exemption” would not apply in this case, and that Murdoch’s act amounts to “an illegal corporate in-kind contribution.” “If you try to get around that disclosure law… by giving something that is the equivalent of money, that you would need to spend money on, or that could be considered something of value for a political campaign, you’re either not supposed to do it or it’s supposed to be disclosed,” Carusone told Democracy Now! Carusone’s interview coincided with Fox News showing video from the 2021 riot at the US Capitol, which the new House Speaker Kevin McCarthy – a California Republican – provided to Tucker Carlson, the most-watched evening news host in the US. The footage Carlson aired directly contradicted the narratives about the Capitol “insurrection” put forth by Biden and the Democrats.

MMFA has gone after Carlson numerous times, accusing him of everything from “election denial” to racism. The Republican National Committee has previously complained to the FEC that Twitter had given an in-kind contribution to the Democrats in the 2020 election, by censoring the New York Post’s factually true story about Hunter Biden’s laptop. Biden, the Democrats and MMFA denounced the report – falsely, as it turned out – as “Russian disinformation.” The RNC filed their claim in October 2020, just weeks before the election. The FEC rejected it, without explanation, in September 2021.

Tucker 2
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“..urging for an international probe into the matter within the United States following similar investigations in the People’s Republic.”

US Lawmakers Call For Declassified Covid Origins Report (RT)

The US House Intelligence Committee has adopted its own version of a bill seeking to force the government to declassify all that it knows about the origins of the Covid-19 pandemic, namely information that relates to a major virology lab in China, from which US officials have claimed the virus originally escaped. A Senate-approved bill moving through Congress was given a rubber stamp by the Republican-controlled intel committee on Tuesday, aiming to require Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines to “make available to the public as much information as possible” about the beginnings of the virus, as well as “any and all information relating to potential links between the Wuhan Institute of Virology” and Covid-19.

“The American public deserves answers to every aspect of the Covid-19 pandemic, including how this virus was graded and specifically, whether it was a natural occurrence or was the result of a lab-related event,” committee chairman Mike Turner said. “The intelligence community does have more information about Covid-19 than the public has seen.” The legislation was approved unanimously by the committee and will now head for a floor vote in the House, after which it would be destined for President Joe Biden’s desk for a signature. The GOP-led push to declassify information follows an updated assessment by the Department of Energy, which recently concluded the virus likely leaked from the Wuhan lab, though the department only endorsed that theory with “low confidence.”

Days later, FBI Director Christopher Wray appeared on Fox News to declare that Covid-19 “most likely” emerged from the virology facility, citing a bureau report that has not been made public. Republican Senators Josh Hawley and Mike Braun initially proposed similar legislation in 2021, and though the bill was passed in the upper chamber, it was never enacted into law. It was reintroduced and passed again overwhelmingly last week. “The Senate already passed my bill with [Hawley] to make every bit of evidence we know about the Covid lab leak declassified for the American people to see the facts without corporate or government censors. President Biden needs to declassify everything we know today,” Braun wrote in a tweet in late February, soon after the Wall Street Journal was first to report the Energy Department’s revised conclusion.

Though the original bill never received the president’s signature, so far the White House has not given any indication it will veto the measure. Beijing, for its part, has vocally denied suggestions the pathogen escaped from the Wuhan virology lab, rejecting the theory as a way to smear China’s image abroad. On Monday, the Chinese Foreign Ministry accused Washington of “spreading myths” about the origins of the pandemic, urging for an international probe into the matter within the United States following similar investigations in the People’s Republic.

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    John Day
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    Alastair Crooke: ​How Could Western Intelligence Have Got It Wrong, Again? They Didn’t. They Had Other Purposes Thanks Figmund Sreud.
    ​ ​ The logic then is that a war prolonged (until the money runs out) must deliver a Russia bereft of munitions, and NATO-supplied Ukraine ‘wins’.
    ​This framing is entirely wrong because of conceptual differences: Russian history is one of Total War that is fought in a long, ‘all-out’, uncompromising engagement against an overwhelming peer force. But inherent to this idea, is its all-important grounding in the conviction that such wars are fought over the course of years, with their outcomes conditioned by the capacity to surge military production.
    ​ ​Conceptually, the U.S. shifted in the 1980s away from its post-war military-industrial paradigm, to off-shore manufacturing to Asia and to ‘just-in-time’ supply lines. Effectively, the U.S. (and the West) shifted in the opposite direction to ‘surge capacity’, whereas Russia did not: It kept alive the notion of sustainment which had contributed to saving Russia during the Great Patriotic War.
    ​ ​So, western intelligence services again got it wrong; they misread the reality? No, they didn’t get it ‘wrong’. Their purpose was different.
    ​ ​The few who got it right were mercilessly caricatured as stooges to make them seem absurd. And Intelligence 101 was re-conceived as the purposeful denialism of all off-Team thinking, whilst the majority of western citizens would live passively in the embrace the groupthink – until too late for them to awaken, and to change the dangerous course on which their societies were embarked.
    ​ ​Unverified Ukrainian reports (liaison reporting) served up to western leaders therefore is not a ‘glitch’ – it is a ‘feature’ of the new Intelligence 101 paradigm intended to confuse and dull its electorate.

    How Could Western Intelligence Have Got It Wrong, Again? They Didn’t. They Had Other Purposes

    ​ ​On March 2, 2023, the people in control of the Joe Biden administration officially announced that government control of internet content was now officially a part of the national security apparatus. [White House Link] If you have followed the history of how the Fourth Branch of Government has been created, you will immediately recognize the intent of this new framework…​
    ..In the era shortly after 9/11, the DC national security apparatus, instructed by Vice President Dick Cheney, was constructed to preserve continuity of government and simultaneously view all Americans as potential threats. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) were created specifically for this purpose.
    ​ ​After 9/11/01, the electronic surveillance system that was originally created to monitor threats from abroad was retooled to monitor threats inside our country. That is when all of our electronic ‘metadata’ came under federal surveillance.
    ​ ​That inflection point, and the process that followed, was exactly what Edward Snowden tried to point out.
    ​ ​What Barack Obama and Eric Holder did with that new construct was refine the internal targeting mechanisms so that only their political opposition became the target of this new national security system.
    ​ ​The problems we face now as a country are directly an outcome of two very distinct points that were merged by Barack Obama. (1) The post 9/11 monitoring of electronic communication of American citizens; and (2) Obama’s team creating a fine-tuning knob that it focused on the politics of the targets. This is very important to understand as you dig deeper into this research outline.

    People Behind Biden Announce Creation of Formal National Surveillance State, Yet No One Seems Bothered

    ​ “Anybody but US/NATO” is who blew up Nordstream.​
    ​ ​US Intelligence Now Says Pro-Ukraine, Possibly Government-Trained Mystery Forces Destroyed Nord Stream Pipelines
    ​ ​Now, four weeks after Hersh’s bombshell report, anonymous US intelligence officials tell the NY Times that the saboteurs are likely ‘pro-Ukraine, possibly government-trained Ukrainian or Russian nationals, or some combination of the two,’ but that ‘no American or British nationals were involved.’

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-intelligence-now-says-pro-ukraine-possibly-government-trained-mystery-forces

    ​ Look, it was these 6 people in this rented yacht! It wasn’t the summer 2022 NATO “Baltops” exercise at all. (Whew! What a relief.)
    ​ ​German authorities probing explosions at the Nord Stream gas pipelines have identified a vessel which was reportedly used in the attack on the pipelines. The yacht belongs to a Polish-based company owned by two Ukrainians, according to the reports.
    ​ ​German state broadcaster ARD, SWR radio and Die Zeit newspaper launched what they called their own joint journalistic investigation into the activities of German law enforcement authorities involved in this case.
    ​ ​Their findings indicate the yacht set sail from the German northeastern port city of Rostock on September 6, having received explosives and equipment for the operation from a delivery truck. The yacht was later identified on the Danish island of Christianso, located just north-east of the island of Bornholm, where the pipelines were damaged on September 26, 2022.
    ​ ​The vessel was then returned to the owners, where investigators managed to find traces of explosives on a cabin table, the outlets claim. The sabotage was reportedly carried out by a team of six people, including a captain, two divers, two diving assistants, and a female doctor.
    https://www.rt.com/news/572615-vessel-nord-stream-sabotage-identified/

    ​ ​US army resumes theft of Syrian oil weeks after deadly quake

    https://thecradle.co/article-view/22027/us-army-resumes-theft-of-syrian-oil-weeks-after-deadly-quake

    #130800
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #130801
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ This firing of “pro-NATO” military officers in Hungary came about a week after Victoria Nuland paid a friendly visit to Budapest, didn’t it?​ Was this going to be like the thwarted military coup against Erdogan in Turkey, by NATO-friendly military officers, which Russia warned Erdogan about at the last minute?
    ​ ​The daily news announced that “hundreds of high-ranking military officers sacked in Hungary”. From the article:
    ​ ​Multiple Hungarian media outlets reported that Hungary’s defense minister sacked hundreds of high-ranking military officers. The people concerned have two months to leave and will get 70 percent of their current salaries as a pension-like allowance even if they continue to work. The minister says the move served the rejuvenation and modernisation of the army. The opposition believes the government fired pro-NATO officers.

    A Massive Global Restructuring is Underway… Here’s What it Means for Europe

    ​I presume that you have seen these pictures and related video. There is more to come.
    Jan. 6 footage shows Capitol cops escorting QAnon Shaman to Senate floor
    walking with shaman
    https://nypost.com/2023/03/06/jan-6-footage-shows-cops-bringing-qanon-shaman-to-senate-floor/

    #130802
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Doc Robinson, thank you for that article in response to Dr D. I have a 13 year old boy, it was very useful

    #130804
    Polemos
    Participant

    D Benton Smith, you write this

    I know it involves a lot of extra work, but to be useful your comment and/or praise or criticism of what other writers have written should first quote them verbatim and THEN dismantle their actual words for the foolishness you think them to be.

    after you had written this

    So, getting back to my apparently unpopular position on Ugo’s article on hydrogen farts: in my deeply considered opinion his article is a just another in an unbroken series of same, a thinly veiled derogatory hit-job on humanity by a condescending high IQ useful idiot OBLIVIOUSLY on the payroll of the Cabal that’s building a case and executing a procedure for the extermination of all humankind. . . which of course includes himself, full stop.

    As I commented earlier this morning,

    Does Bardi think monkeys are bad, stupid, humiliating, worthless or any kind of negative thing, and can you show this from either that linked article or from any other writing of his?

    Or, for that matter, show specifically what you said about him are truths about him? You wrote that you were not going to do any point by point sort of thing, but you are saying he wants people dead, he is an idiot hiding behind arrogance, he is scared shitless, and lumping him in with many others, your They. If you are accurate, the accusations should have evidence from his actual words, not from categorizing a group of people whom you place him into . . .

    I wrote this, because I observed you write the following:

    Admittedly, this isn’t the first time that I have had to roll my eyes at what Ugo Bardi has written, but this forum is hardly the proper venue for point by point peer review of the rest of his brilliantly written but factually lacking wrong conclusions drawn from massive data. It is enough, in this particular case, to note that his disparagingly intended equation of miraculously refined human beings with “savanna monkeys”, is enough bull shit for one sitting.

    I appreciate that you have, in the past, commented approvingly of things I have written, or the way I write, and I also appreciate that you are passionate and zealous towards what guides and motivates you. That fire in your heart is commendable when I see many give themselves over to apathy and the worst forms of indifference. At the same time, fire warps the way we see things, shimmering and singeing and smoking, even blinding us to the longer view if we have only our fire in the darkest nights.

    No doubt, you are self-aware and can recognize that you portray two different views here. On the one hand, you want someone else to carefully and meticulously criticize written words and demonstrate relevance and inference. On the other hand, you don’t think you have that responsibility and don’t think this place is appropriate for that kind of activity anyway.

    Which hand is the one you wish for me, or anyone else, to most associate with you?

    #130805
    zerosum
    Participant

    When the Economy Gets Squeezed by Too Little Energy


    When the Economy Gets Squeezed by Too Little Energy
    Posted on March 5, 2023 by Gail Tverberg

    In conclusion: I want to add ….
    We will have “energy green zones”.
    I want to enjoy the complexity so that I can enjoy a hot shower.
    Being off grid at the cottage is a starvation existence.
    I guess that makes me an elitist for wanting to live with hot showers.

    #130806
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    @John Day #130797

    You made an effort in your reply; only curtesy to answer. Problem arose in calling pathological liars, liars, and do so with originality. Thus picturing a world order carried on the back of lies, and the pervasiveness of lying in the culture. Hope that worked.

    #130807
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Arnie? That was subtle.

    #130808
    aspnaz
    Participant

    And another message from Arnie, for the same people as TAE’s Auschwitz message … https://invidious.baczek.me/watch?v=pa3Dj8W2zHs

    Screw your freedom

    #130809
    aspnaz
    Participant

    And another … https://invidious.baczek.me/watch?v=3oRdP3SYjgM. This is the person you are going to believe about Auschwitz?

    #130810

    From what’s app: Hancock:
    Hancock: “tell him that considering how many people I am getting his chips injected into, he [bill gates] owes me one.”
    chips?

    tv news is telling me tucker hates trump. The J6 stuff must be scaring the ‘Crats. They say tucker is “cherrypicking”. At least he’s picking it off THE cherry tree, and not shoving a bunch of horse chestnuts down our throats like that endless loop they played.

    Man, I’ve got to stop typing directly- though some of the “corrections” are hilarious. “he’s picking” was changed to “henpecking”.

    #130811
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @DBS and jb-hb: Bardi and AFKTT are both chemists, both religious zealots, both full of shit. Either chemistry attracts the delusional or maybe these two are the same person?

    #130812
    Oroboros
    Participant
    #130813

    Hey! I’m watching Tucker Carlson on TeeVee for the for the first time!

    #130814
    WES
    Participant

    These days, I am not sure whether to believe in monkeys or even two legged monkeys running this planet.
    So instead this two legged monkey is worshipping the “sun” as at least it is real, when it shines, unlike everything else. Sadly, clouds too often get in the way.

    I confess that I do this on sunny winter days by taking a mid-day nap, on a lawn chair, in my fossil fuel built sun cave located in my backyard. It doesn’t matter how windy or cold the winter temperature is outside, the sun’s rays make the inside nice and toasty.

    One has to enjoy life’s little pleasures since the world could end tomorrow.

    #130816
    aspnaz
    Participant

    I am sure Bardi and his psudonym/alter-ego AFKTT will call me something nasty, nasty, nasty for posting this … https://joannenova.com.au/2023/03/1000-pacific-and-indian-islands-are-not-shrinking-due-to-climate-change/.

    #130817
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @aspnaz

    Chemistry tends to attract the materialistic, I suspect because the clockwork precision of the subject is both mesmerizing and reassuring to the those terrified by the implications of free will or the reality of awareness being the source of material instead of the other way around. Perhaps for these reasons it also tends to be the rabbit hole of no return, because the hole has no bottom. Material can never explain or understand or comprehend itself. Not ever. It just gets denser and denser and denser, forever.

    #130818
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @Polemos

    “No doubt, you are self-aware and can recognize that you portray two different views here. On the one hand, you want someone else to carefully and meticulously criticize written words and demonstrate relevance and inference. On the other hand, you don’t think you have that responsibility and don’t think this place is appropriate for that kind of activity anyway.
    Which hand is the one you wish for me, or anyone else, to most associate with you?”

    First off, that was an impressively conscientious application of the rules of engagement. Your comment was nearly faultless, except for that little part about me breaking my own rules by expressing two different and contradictory views. Nah, it’s just one view, but admittedly it does presume familiarity with Bardi’s broader body of work and associations. Mea culpa, but not very much, because it’s plenty accurate enough for the occasion, and I’m not doing a “straw-man” thing with it like was done to me.

    Specifically, his authorship of The Limits To Growth, and his continued association with The Club Of Rome, both of which it is completely fair to say, are oft referenced works in support of the concept that humankind is intrinsically flawed in its very nature and must therefore be repaired or externally restrained in various ways by “better” people who know more than we do about what’s best for us.

    I cannot help but speculate what sort of better people they have in mind.

    My view is that he is not merely mistaken in that position, but tragically so, and that continuation of that seriously flawed premise will have fatal results for our physical, mental, and spiritual health. I am being specific enough about a positions that he has quite publicly and repeatedly taken.

    So is it unfair of me to accuse him of implying a low opinion humans from his comparing the latest model of people to the much older line of “savanna monkeys”? Not at all. That was the intent of his crystal clear metaphor so I’m not mistaken in seeing it that way. I took it the way meant it, which is the suggestion that modern human is a not much improved over the proto-human of 4 million years ago. (and, it’s worth noting, that good ol’ Australopithecus lasted a million years, which ain’t that bad for such a tough neighborhood).

    Now, while it is true that we are not individually responsible for the crimes of our brethren, it is also fair to see that we are known by the friends we keep, and the friends of the Club of Rome include some of the smarmiest eugenically inclined elite globalist death-mongers-by proxy this side of the WEF. Correct me if I’m wrong about that, because I would be delighted to be mistaken.

    I’m also not saying that Ugo is anything like the worst of them. He’s an academic, a paper pushing professor of physical chemistry for crying out loud. How boring. Writing bullshit about topics outside of his wheelhouse is just his hobby, and since he’s a chemist I can appreciate how he needs some distracting entertainment. On the contrary, I rather suspect that from the vantage of sitting across from him at the well laden elitist dining table he presents as a charming, pleasant and affable guy. What I AM saying is that if he does not support genocide then it’s well past the time that he should quit that club and denounced its membership, because there are a bunch of those yahoos who are NOT nice guys, and they do mean to kill you.

    So is he a man of spirit, an acolyte of chaos, or just a well compensated useful idiot? I don’t know, but I know that I’m tired of picking on him just because he wrote some shite as a pastime. No mas. Peace.

    #130819
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    What a pity TAE comments section has degenerated into two camps: one provides accurate data and logical analysis; the other camp comprises of people who troll through the comments and then pick totally unnecessary arguments for the sake of arguing and generally have little or nothing factual or interesting to say.

    jb-hj, you can scream and shout, fire insults and engage in ad hominem attacks all you like: I just skip straight past anything you write; similarly aspnaz.

    #130820
    zerosum
    Participant

    No, this is not science fiction.
    https://www.ibtimes.com/scientists-breathe-life-48500-year-old-zombie-virus-found-frozen-siberia-3640313
    Out of the 13 new viruses that have been identified, the oldest is a 48,500-year-old amoeba virus, according to the findings posted by researchers in the pre-print server bioRxiv.

    ————
    https://www.outdoorrevival.com/news/found-in-a-jar-2000-year-old-seeds-grow-into-extinct-biblical-tree.html?edg-c=1
    Found in a Jar: 2,000-Year-Old Seeds Grow Into Extinct, Biblical Tree
    ————
    https://nypost.com/2021/06/08/24000-year-old-zombie-worms-discovered-frozen-and-alive/
    Frozen ‘zombie’ worms brought back to life after 24,000 years
    By Hannah Sparks
    ————-

    #130835
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Your ignorance of Roman history is truly vast”

    Ad hominem every time. “Ad hominem or it shall not pass my lips…” You know I was exaggerating (of course) in saying that. Or meaning to, anyway. Why make it true? Why make me right? You’re better than that and capable of making subject-focused arguments.

    “security forces of Airstrip Four would gleefully attack you simply for not wearing a mask that did nothing to protect you from viruses.”

    Yes, and note all it required was an excuse. The thinnest premise, a fig leaf that a few minute’s checking would show was false, didn’t work, your covering was transparent. Yet they do it and the beat-ees generally played along.

    Following arrest, the totalitarian-fascist-controlled ‘legal system’ will continue the abuse you”

    As we just saw with false, erroneous charges, planting evidence, entrapment, and denying exculpatory evidence we even KNOW exists. Yeah, ask the Native Americans about that. Peltier for example. We test all these things on minorities before rolling them out to the rest of you.

    What’s the solution? Well apparently the herd has no teeth so they can only respond en masse. The predator’s job is to keep them just one minute away from stampeding and trampling them, and they’ve become quite good at it. How do they know to trample? Communication, the mass-mind and telepathy flocks of birds use, so they need to cut the herd off from each other and cripple their connection to the Knowing All.

    What does that mean? It ends when we don’t care WHAT happens. Totally forgotten by today’s paint-on activists is that like Birmingham you’re SUPPOSED to be arrested. Beaten even. That’s the POINT. You’re supposed to OVERFLOW the Birmingham jail then the Alabama State jails, then bankrupt the National Guard trying to keep you from doing the peaceful, normal action of going about your day. That is NOT lighting fires, killing black business owners, etc, and crying for the Whaaaambulance if someone speaks to you, processes you and lets you go in an hour. That would be a failure as it wouldn’t cost the State enough money to make your point.

    Somehow that’s all forgotten though.
    SaltoftheEarth

    Rome didn’t fall? Rome as a city and center dropped from +1M to possibly 10,000 citizens, pasturing sheep in the pillared, rocky ruins. That’s a pretty classic civilizational “fall” if that’s how you want to term it. (possibly “dispersion” like Devolution, is a less pejorative term?)

    ““Malthus was wrong” No, his timing was just off.”

    Seriously? Wrong on that bet every year, 200 years in a row, every modern computer model is proven just as faulty, and you want to go for Red Seven on the Roulette Wheel for the whole stake? Okay man. I’ll take your money, but it’ll ruin the rest of your life. That’s basically JB’s argument to AFKTT: this isn’t SERVING you. It doesn’t WORK. It’s failed all of the last 50 years. But THIS TIME, only TOMORROW, I’ll win double-sevens and show you all! Man, is that the line of a chronic addict or what?

    He COULD be right. Red Seven WILL come up one day. People sure thought so in Napoleon, in WWI and WWII, and it sure felt like it, but nope. Not a thing. Barely a half-step back. Humans are too clever and strong.
    Their Models never saw it coming. Bang! Right between the eyes! They were wrongeddy wrong-wrong and will be wrong this time too.

    “when will xenophobic criticism of China/Chinese be declared off limits”

    Depends if it’s xenophobic. Do we say ALL Chinese worldwide, wherever they may live? At birth, as a function of their genome? Or do we mean the CCP as presently constructed? I can force myself to be more specific and say “CCP” instead of “China” all the time, but it’s tiresome.

    Leon: I don’t know if you’re a long lurker but the format is Raul posts the (used to be peak oil and finance) news of the day. Now it’s geopolitics. That was 20 years ago when you could quote WSJ to contrast the NYT. Now all Western Media is beyond repair and 99% in the same direction, united in their lies. Which are quite illogical and idiotic, no trouble at all to see how false is HAS to be. Russia blew up their OWN $6B pipeline? Rather than turn their own valve? Unless you want to transform the format and close the site what are you going to do? Quote transparently false liars all day? We’ve always quoted outside sources, only trying to keep to “authority” sources because it’s more amusing to roast them in their own juices words. But we’re at a point where nothing anyone in the West says is true, and is also easily provable. What are we left with? I don’t read Chinese (oops, I mean CCP) or Thai or Japanese, nor Hausa, Yoruba, or Igbo, so that leaves the Non-West. RT, al-Jazeera, etc. Call the NY Times and Guardian and complain to them, they’re the ones who’ve become un-quotable, even to a word.

    And yeah, I don’t like it either.

    witch hunting had a strong monetary component” “ignored by historians.” Yes, exactly my point with Zinn and others. EVERYTHING THEY SAY IS FALSE. If they weren’t blinded by their paradigm religion, first Christian, then Pro-West, now Pro-Socialist/Kill West, they would realize it. The number of witches was TOTALLY FABRICATED by Feminists in the 70’s. We didn’t get around to double-checking that until just recently. They just MADE IT UP to serve their point that all men are evil, muh Patriarchy. The end justifies the means, right? Doesn’t cause problems in families, stress between men and women now having divergent paradigms that lead to divorce, poverty, anger, and despair. Ruining, as we know, the lives of all their children? Millions of them? Yeah, Feminism did that. Or their constant lack of morals with “the end justifies the means.” Don’t do it.

    And both the fact of witches, the reason for witches, and the number are ALL LIES. Just another lie, lie after lie in history. So…why would someone tell a lie about something as dry as history since the only place they would ever get the facts to textbook up is from the original records? ALL FOR THEIR AGENDA. That they know you would never say yes to if they told the truth. That is, raw, poisonous VIOLENCE.

    To be helpful today, the other witch thing was really a purge of the Cathars. The Pope and Catholic Church, who by their actions are “Not Christians,” had been getting too evil and people were edging away from them. The wanted to consolidate power in Europe against a more grass-roots, self-directed alternative, so they murdered every Cathar they could find. Just normal, political power n money stuff, all lied about by calling it religious. Later that backfired and re-appeared in Protestantism, which was not put down, but put the Church down as we see today. Today they hate (other) religion with the heat of a thousand suns and lie and pretend it was religious, or a Pope (Borgias) who lived in an orgy-filled palace with three wives was “Christian-y”, totally pious, a true believer. LIE!

    “This genocidal war crime appears to have been actively facilitated at the highest levels”

    Yes, and what if that’s not just to keep the money they stole, but because we’re about to have a world catastrophe, an asteroid or Ice Age? Isn’t that really a moral…good? Aren’t I doing God’s work by killing these 6 Billion in their beds, children and infants included? Side of the Angels, I say. ..And all you would have to do is LIE, pay scientists to invent such a premise, then say “go forth! Kill widely.”

    “U.S. Dept of Energy Grid” proves that they are on board and know. They KNOW this has to happen, yet not a pencil has moved to make it so? When the whole country would collapse otherwise? Huh. ...Unless some miracle happened and 1/3 of the population died instead, and the rest were locked down and couldn’t move 15 minutes. They. Know.

    “tv news is telling me tucker hates trump.”

    Weird part is, the Right is not in a cult (mostly), so they don’t care. Please, PLEASE keep not knowing anything about the Right, projecting, making everything up, and keep using these tactics. Never stop. When they say he hates Trump (which is also a bit of an exaggeration) I say, “Yay!” Doesn’t bother me a bit.

    “Is it possible to thread comments?” It was but I don’t see it now. Scarcely matters as that feature was always broken and inoperable for years. Tests above prove it again.

    #131339
    Germ
    Participant

    The Mass Disabling Event is here

    “In our society, an insane society, we deployed an experimental therapeutic on the whole population, in an effort to stop people from dying. It’s not a vaccine, at best it is a failed attempt at a vaccine. It seems to reduce severe disease by inducing tolerance, prohibiting the immune system from overreacting to a novel virus. Whether that happened by accident or was always the intention is unclear to me, but the price you pay is the birth of a demographic that constantly spreads this virus.”

    “…the brain damage continues to accumulate.”

    “sickness among employees… hit a new record, at 5.6%.”

    The Mass Disabling Event is here

    TVASF (Geert is correct)

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