Debt Rattle April 19 2023

 

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    citizenx
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    Will it be any better than any of the preceding failures?

    Do you have a choice in that? All you can do is make the most and best of the time you have on this Planet.

    #133782
    aspnaz
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    Listening to Musk makes me think of the billionaire war.

    The China and Russia axis differs from the west in that they do not allow billionaires to control government. This will be a huge deal for rich western families. Here in China you can be the CEO of the Bank of China and suddenly disappear to re-emerge (or not) as unemployed. You can also own Alibaba and have your company taken away from you for getting too involved in politics. In Russia the power distribution is the same, the government will imprisson the billionaires if they get too ambitious.

    I see the existence of the WEF as a western organisation put together by the billionaires to maintain their standing during the collapse of the west. In the past they invited Putin and Xi as guests at their meetings, but they were just getting to know the enemy. Lots of people consider the WEF to be trying to spread central control throughout the west, and it certainly appears to be trying to do that, but they know they will not be able to create a one-world government run by the billionaires, because the China-Russia axis will not allow the billionaires to take power away from their governments.

    I am sure that many deals will be attempted by the western billionaires trying to curry favour with the China-Russia axis, but it will not work. That MBS moved Saudi into the China-Russia axis is interesting, the philosophy of Saudi, where the royal family rules and billionaires come second, is exactly that of the China-Russia axis. The power structure is the same.

    Musk has businesses in China, so you have to wonder how does Twitter assist Musk’s relationship with China. Will it help him? Twitter is not legally available in China, although some use VPNs to access it. But China has an interest in how it is seen in the west, so is this one of the reasons why Musk bought Twitter? Difficult to know. I don’t believe the free-speech bullshit he comes out with, he is a billionaire, his efforts are sharply focused on making money. Maybe his relationship with China will be aided by his ensuring that he gives free airtime to both sides in the next election?

    It will be very interesting to see how the western billionaires are controlled by the China-Russia axis. We have seen a number of Russian gas industry executives decide to jump off balconies, will something similar happen to other wealthy/powerful people? China has a reputation for being ruthless with its own billionaires, will they do the same with western billionaires?

    #133783
    citizenx
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    Well, the oppressors are trying to keep me down
    Trying to drive me underground
    And they think that they have got the battle won
    I say forgive them Lord, they know not what they’ve done

    ‘Cause, as sure as the sun will shine
    I’m gonna get my share now, what’s mine
    And then the harder they come
    The harder they fall, one and all

    And I keep on fighting for the things I want
    Though I know that when you’re dead you can’t
    But I’d rather be a free man in my grave
    Than living as a puppet or a slave

    So as sure as the sun will shine
    I’m gonna get my share now, what’s mine
    And then the harder they come
    The harder they fall, one and all

    Inspiration-

    If you’re only thinking about what to live for- you’re only half alive.

    If you understand what to live and die for- you are fully alive.

    #133784
    aspnaz
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    Trump was financed by Sheldon Adelson who owns casinos in Macau, China. How were Trump’s dealings with China influenced by Adelson? Does China see Trump as a friendly president? Did Adelson push Trump on behalf of the Chinese? Seems odd that China would see him as unfriendly when his funder owns profitable business assets in China. How will all this change in the next Trump presidency now that Sheldon Adelson has popped his cloggs?

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