Debt Rattle April 4 2025
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April 4, 2025 at 9:14 am #185510
Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterPablo Picasso Portrait of woman in wheelchair 1936 • This Is Good. Very, Very Good. (CTH) • Beijing Slams Trump’s “Unilateral Bullying” Tariffs
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 4 2025]April 4, 2025 at 9:57 am #185512userzeroid
ParticipantSome astute analysis from the Duran boys
April 4, 2025 at 10:51 am #185513Dr D Rich
ParticipantNot every day is a General fired, summarily.
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….and a cutey from Hughesville Pee AyeNSA
Recently his very public testimony was very publicly and very recently part of the very recent SecDef Peter Hegseth Saga Signal and Signal was supposed to be inSignalificant.
Yet down goes a cutey 4-star **** and The General’s Deputy.Lara Loomer is supposedly connected to The Firing Deed??
Gen. Timothy Haugh
It’s probably another nothing-burger.
This stuff is all top secret secret squirrel shit for the special ppl in the know, but I wonder who will first come publicly to Haugh’s defense or is an arrest Imminent?I want an arrest.
I want a public perp walk or frog march.
I know it’s projection of my very frustrated and increasingly vindictive inner object state, but the time is nigh for quite a bit of old fashioned Retributive Justice, you know, the very best kind.April 4, 2025 at 11:35 am #185514Dr. D
ParticipantApril 2, and tariffs.
I have to say, by the Law of Nothing Ever Happens, nothing has happened. I hadn’t realized they could get EVERYONE, literally everyone, the man on the street, talking about tariffs, while if anything, espousing even DUMBER takes than ever before, yet here we are.
Market drops some? That could lead to something, we’ll see the technicals. But to me it’s the sound and the fury, a tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing. …Does tell you they’re over the target though, they’ve hit a nerve.
“CIA Says ALIENS ATTACKED The Soviets In Declassified Documents, Turn Soldiers TO STONE” — Tim Pool
So we got that goin’ for us. Sound and Fury, thrashing around trying everything, keep everybody busy and not thinking straight? Check. Soldier, remember your training; ignore all this and do your job.
“Any nation that wants to control the valuation of its currency cannot possibly achieve global financial dominance, as the only way to gain and maintain global financial dominance is to surrender control of the currency’s valuation to the market via exporting currency in such vast quantities that the global market sets the value…
…There may be no winners of the game of Global Domination ™, and that is likely the best outcome. Any form of dominance generates its own undoing.” Hugh SmithThey are hating America for being an Empire, then fighting tooth and nail to keep the Empire. I know because I talked to them this week. Then pointed it out to the usual results. Yes, if we bring jobs back we will be “Just another country” and “not be able to defend Europe”. …And not be an Empire. But isn’t that what you WANTED, Socialists? Progressives?
Then they’re saying who’s going to “Win”? Um yeah I know all the caveats on that and have discussed them extensively. But essentially, who is going to win is whoever is LARGER. Whoever is at the present financial CORE. That’s us still, and barely. The center fails LAST.
“‘Luigi Mangione’ Copycat Kills Pharmacy Worker In California”
Stochastic terrorism. Now going really well, actually. Liberals are out shooting other Liberals. We tell them not to with a binder full of arguments, they don’t listen and do it anyway. That’s the Glorious Revolution. Murder of all against all, forever. “Three World Wars.” Satan’s delight! Hand rubbing, cackles. Goooooo Love and Tolerance!
“When you refused to submit to the experimental gene therapy, did your close friends gather round you as in an intervention, and lovingly try to help you see the light? “
And it makes you wonder why. They SHOULD have done this. The process prompts only this. If they have these beliefs, this is the only logical response. Doing the opposite not only doesn’t work, but made them smaller, closed all opportunity, and made them LOOK bad. Or logically should. Yet as you say NOT ONE did this. Not ONE. Now in my close family they are exceedingly logical and dispassionate, so when I said “We seem to be seeing this data, source: NIH” etc, they said, “Hmmmm, I’ll look.” But that still isn’t this, and since we seem so ordinary, I hadn’t realized we must be a 6 sigma outlier on that. “That” being at all concerned, interested, or following data. You know, I’m sure we all thought maybe that wasn’t like 100% uptake, but might be the 59% norm. But not like effective 0% data-users.
“To me it smacks of moral superiority. Narcissism. Fear. Hatred. Lack of principle and personal sovereignty. A willingness to sacrifice principles, values, family, friends, and neighbors in order to be “safe” or “right”.
Yes, and in good form, they then said it was ME who had to be proven right. I needed to “win” this. I mean sort of? When I think you’re committing suicide? But I did ultimately only make my case then rest, supporting them for when this inevitably happens. They did not do that for me. Several are dead, so I guess I don’t have to support them in a wheelchair. That’s not a win.
“Yet for those around me, it doesn’t seem to have changed their level of trust.
They still trust authority without question.”Yes. Stats say different, but I still only see two classes: those who saw it then and those who didn’t. No one’s moved between camps. Somehow they are saying we have dropping overall trust by “Argument by Authority Fallacy” but I don’t see it that much. But then unless you know someone’s story arc, it’s hard to tell from the outside. Eg, Ultra-Uber, yes-has-Trump-Flags all over the yard, says he was DNC until 2016. Yes, that’s 10 years now, but he was working democrat, now is this far over. And not ‘til then. Example.
“donald trump is a murdering sack of crap every bit as evil as joe biden.”
You are clearly not serious, so stop and think. He is most probably NOT as evil as Biden because he has not run Burisma, started WWIII, or a number of other, additional things that would make his bag equally full. That said, if he’s committed crimes, then we will prosecute him for those crimes, so in effect if he did one murder and Biden did 300 following Hillary, then the effective punishment would be the same. But they’re still not equal.
Yes, I understand the Bunker buster and expansionary war rhetoric, you’re trying to get our attention, but especially now we can only convict people for things they DID do. That are REAL, provable, accurate. Causing a ceasefire and reminding the Gazans they can leave for elsewhere is not the same as killing them all, sir. I understand the point, but also understand mine. I am immensely pissed off, but I’m not going to let go of justice and accuracy.
“It is hard for the US to cheapen it’s currency and maintain it’s reserve currency status.
It is like having a cake and wanting to eat it too!
You can only have one, not both.”This is exactly my point. They all come as a package. You can’t get the “Benefit” (see memes) of printing currency to steal stuff. So very suddenly, you need to change every economic foundation to 1953, with hard money, jobs, manufacturing, tariffs, tax structure, capital formation, etc. We got into this over 40-100 years. Now we need to get out of it in 100 days and everyone’s crying? What do you think we should do? Let it go on? As WES says, “gee, experts, doesn’t seem to be working!” Listen to us HARDER!
So YES, we are leaving the Reserve currency, and this has MANY effects. One is that we are just one country now. Probably we need to KEEP the reserve currency too! By having a split internal/external dollar, and I think they found a way, but they won’t admit that’s what the system they’re shooting for is doing. That means YES, we need a Trade Net Zero. Pointed out in addition that this is only on GOODS, not on services, only REAL things matter now, if you want their direction and thinking.
Yes, cheapening the currency matters, as that was NAFTA Part I: 1950-1979, we kept the US$ too high, gutted the Rustbelt, bled gold. …If we had been HONEST then…but what am I talking about, why bother? Now to what LEVEL is the US$ need to drop so it’s not rigged and artificially inflated, “Exorbitant Privilege”? And if it isn’t, they INSTANTLY we need to be at Trade Net Zero. Even one year of $36T bled would bankrupt any transition, instead of just letting us reach “Normal Nation” status.
And sorry, I’m READING an article while LISTENING to a podcast while WRITING or composing another article in the back of my mind, so you’ll have to just do random, chronological order today, possible for a while. Or I’ll cut way back from being overwhelmed as I thought would happen.
ASPNAZ has apparently been replaced with an entirely new, thoughtful person. All this weeks insights I agree with entirely. Thanks. Lezbe friends.
JB: interesting run on “Adolescence” which I think is in your zone. They pop up this FICTION, this social engineering plant, in order for Parliament to lock down all England while letting 10 years of non-stop rapes continue, yet to have an investigation?
Uh, no. It gets weirder. Sargon WATCHED the show, instead of just yakking off about a media buzz aaaaaaaannnnd???? …It’s the #Opposite of what they’re saying. The 12 year old white boy is INNOCENT. He never watched Andrew Tate. There is no online radicalization. Likes women. The villains are all the PROGRESSIVES, the establishment, the adults. Huh? I haven’t watched it and don’t mean to, but, Yup! Maybe they – Keir Stalin – hasn’t watched it either, but reminds me of Capt Marvel, the hero for attacking all refugee families of genocide, beating up any good man who’s concerned and tries to help her. She thinks she’s the hero. So when they see a show – probably written three years ago, mind, then shot last year, then finally edited and released now – where the adults are all tyrannical, failing, child-hating, abusive, self-serving narcissists, who abandon all life and all children to “Lord of the Flies”, they go “Yup!!! That’s my Peps! People who act like that and have these results are the Good People™! This is what a Glorious Revolution looks like when it’s truly tried!” …Or something. Fascinating.
We have higher priorities, but if you thought the planet was g-d—-d mad before, here’s up a level. Adolescence = AntiAdolescence, BothNeitherAi.
Business Owner: We’ve reached nirvana where every normal BillyBob can understand tariffs instinctively, in two seconds, but not one smart, educated person can.
“The focus is on finished goods, not the raw materials and components we need to build here. That protects domestic production and supply chains—not disrupts them”
Note this part. That’s why England and RUSSIA are exempt. Russia is nearly nothing, but raw materials what is. England is all services since they haven’t made anything useful in years, so 10%. Doesn’t hit those two parts. We’re dealing with the “Real” world, the Commodity world. Where we push atoms, not electrons.
“China had it good for a few decades. So of course they’re not rejoicing today.
“The era of Asia’s export manufacturing-led development has come to an end, and the region will need to develop markets closer to home.”We’ve been telling them for years and they know it. No surprise, they know they have to and should, so why would they try to buck it? “Gosh instad of giving those TVs and new cars to OUR people, we just have to, have to, have to give them to the U.S. for free.” Nope.
““It’s all noise. And in the end, I think everybody’s better off if we get to reciprocal tariffs of zero,” he said. I think we all know that this is Trump’s goal, too”
There is grudging acceptance of this, which is good but remains to be seen.
“President Donald Trump teased another explosive revelation from the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)”
Don’t want to hear it. And especially when Elon says there will be arrests and there aren’t. Shut your hole and show me.
““That was the insight of those who established NATO, that economic cooperation would be good for the entire alliance,”
Uhhhhh, maybe, but they may have all agreed on a love for Led Zepplin too, but that’s not what NATO and the written agreements were about. They are a MILITARY organization. Now you go “All things are military, ackshully…” So Gimme.
“• Putin, Zelensky Ready To Make A Deal – Trump (RT)
Ten levels of NO here. Putin ONLY JUST said that Ze is illegitimate, not the leader. And there’s nobody else to sign with either. AND elections aren’t fast. AND Europe sabotaged all ceasefire by denying sanctions.
“Note that Putin didn’t send his political envoy, but his business man.”
So the clue in Dubai was they weren’t even talking about Ukraine. They were talking about overall positioning in world government and commerce of world powers. Trade, trade flows, balances, foundations, like Bretton Woods. Not to that level, but clues in that direction, and logically it would make sense that way. Especially if you have a world with no Europe.
What do I mean? Europe = Globalism, everybody knows it. This was “The Plan”. Europe would go “No! Really we’re just some country, not like the UN World Government at all! And the only reason everyone has to follow every centrally-planned colonial edict on commerce, finance, environment, social engineering, censorship, is only because we make the bestest, smartestest regulations in the world!” …I cannot Goddamn BELIEVE that almost worked, like our world IQ must be 40. So, Europe, it was just an accident that the WHO, WEF, IMF, etc were all run in Europe or by Atlanticists? Because Asia is just so dumb like that and the yellow people couldn’t comprehend your super-big thoughts? Or Africa. Or South America? Or even the U.S. for that matter. We HQ them, but they sure aren’t OUR people.
So IF you kill Globalism, the IMF, WHO, World Bank, USAID, all that, what happens? Essentially, no Europe. They become like, Uruguay, Nigeria, Thailand. You know: NORMAL countries. Right? Not saying they should disappear although it looks like they’re all going to murder each other again shortly, but not the Colonial Headquarters, you know?
If Trump/Putin/Xi take all this out by re-configuring the world to STOP colonialism – hey I thought Colonialism was bad! — then Europe take a fatal hit and has to entirely rethink who they are and how they’re built.
““We are seeing a coordinated campaign in the media, attempts by various politicians to undermine the relations between Russia and the US,”
NY Times expose’: Meant to so infuriate the Russian people with America that peace is impossible. Guess what is NOT in those 13,000 words? A SINGLE mention of anyone in Europe. Esp Britain. They are wee wittle innocents, never dun nuffin’. And no Sullivan-Blinken either, off the hook. So they want Russia mad at the United States and the United States alone. While Europe is openly arming for a full on invasionary war and march on Moscow. Thankfully AGAIN they treat Russians as illiterate serfs, the way they treat US like violent, mouth breathing rednecks. And miss EVERY chess move because they can’t adjust to how deeply this isn’t true. Russia is pissed, sure, but they also suffer a lot of pain stoically, it’s their superpower, and they’ll wait and laugh at getting the right guy good and hard, however long it takes. THEY know it’s not TRUMP, the American people.
“Together, Medicare and Medicaid will each spend roughly a trillion dollars this year.”
Yes and 2/3rds of it is waste and fraud.
“Dr. Oz is uniquely equipped to modernize health care. He will harness cutting-edge technology and responsibly integrate artificial intelligence to meet patients’ needs”
Oh my God, we’re all going to die. I was against Oz when I saw the job description, but if this is the approach, definitely no. …Luckily no one cares what I think, and most of these furry mascots don’t run anything anyway.
“Best-selling author and scientist Gregg Braden warns that efforts to drastically reduce atmospheric CO₂ could bring us dangerously close to the extinction threshold, endangering all life on Earth:
Luckily the thought that we could significantly affect this is pure nonsense.
“Everybody that we know will either be autistic or they will be caring for somebody that’s autistic.” These are no longer numbers anyone can ignore. “
It’s already true and they’re ignoring it just fine, thanks.
200% cancer increase? No problem. 10 year olds dropping dead at recess? Great! Fatty liver disease for a 15 year old? I see no problem! Been that way my whole life, kids on milk cartons = “We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas! Stock digit go up!” Goooooo Boomers!
Star Trek: shows good acting. Makes me realize why I, we, used to go to movies and how ling it’s been since good acting. I think it’s more like STYLE, it’s a little over, while modern stuff is trying to be accurate, perfect similitude, and more importantly give the moment TIME. Time to unfold and be important instead of being in a rush.
This is so polarized, I see a movie I think “Spiderman No Way Home” and it seems like they did four movies, we’re all relaxed, and no one was in a rush. Other ones, three hours, packed every minute and it’s like nothing was said. Comparing, let’s say, Kris Kristofferson, gives the moment TIME to unfold.
April 4, 2025 at 12:18 pm #185515John Day
ParticipantChina Strikes Back: Slaps 34% Tariff On US Goods After Trump’s ‘Liberation Day’
Touche’
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-strikes-back-slaps-34-tariff-us-goods-after-trumps-liberation-dayApril 4, 2025 at 12:36 pm #185516ByronBishop
ParticipantI am always amused by the characterisation of the Chinese as great exploiters of the trade system. As I recall, it was American oligarchs who moved their factories to low-wage countries in order to save on labour costs, and it was the oligarchs who profited from all of that. Mr Trump does not call them out because they are his donors. American factory owners and shareholders and directors shipped those jobs overseas! How about some honesty here?
April 4, 2025 at 12:50 pm #185517those darned kids
Participant“What Marine Le Pen and Trump’s tariffs have in common is they are both anti-globalist. The world is changing and everyone will have to adapt.”
nope.
the world has already lost.
April 4, 2025 at 12:54 pm #185518John Day
ParticipantDeng Xiao Peng read The Limits To Growth, took it seriously, and set a 50 year plan for China to be #1 in global manufacturing before global manufacturing peaked-out, just before that. It worked.
https://mahb.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/yale-publication-1.pdfApril 4, 2025 at 12:54 pm #185519Just Some Randomer
Participant@ByronBishop, nah man – those Chinese fellas sneaked over under cover of night, took all the factories apart and smuggled them back home to China before anyone knew what was happening. That’s what I’m hearing anyway.
April 4, 2025 at 12:59 pm #185520those darned kids
Participantcalley means is 100% cia.
bad, bad, bad.
April 4, 2025 at 1:46 pm #185521zerosum
ParticipantFirst you need to know the root of the problem you are trying to solve;
So the real problem is how to make the USA competitive againThe big picture, (topology).
Two system.
Trump’s Liberation Day, the tariffs war, and the rules-based global trading system,
Change will produce a Winner, (convergence),
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• President Trump Ends Duty-Free De Minimis Treatment for All Chinese Goods (CTH)The de minimis exemption has been cancelled for all products coming out of China.
There is no way for manufacturers in China, marketed into the USA, to be able to survive if they are forced to collect and organize the requirements for U.S. custom and import duties.
They will simply dissolve.
All relevant postal items containing goods that are sent through the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption are subject to a duty rate of either 30% of their value or $25 per item (increasing to $50 per item after June 1, 2025).“reciprocal tariffs” ( cost of mfg in Us)
China, branded one of the “worst offenders”, (cost of mfg in China), raising total duties to at least 54%.
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• Third Parties Attempting To Derail US-Russia Talks – Putin Envoy (RT)He noted that the negotiations have been accompanied by “a lot of rumors, incorrect quotes, and incorrect interpretations.”
“A lot of people are interested in preventing the development of our relations. We are seeing a coordinated campaign in the media, attempts by various politicians to undermine the relations between Russia and the US, and attempts to distort the statements made by Russia,” the diplomat said. “It happens on a daily basis.”—————-
“There are probably 150 people who control healthcare in America …And they don’t want anything to change.”
• Dr. Oz Will Save Medicare, Strengthen Medicaid, Secure a Healthier America (DS)
help us in our mission to Make America Healthy Again.
Medicaid and Medicare are on a path that should concern all Americans.Medicare, the government-run health insurance program for seniors, will fall off a financial cliff in as little as a decade—maybe even sooner.
Meanwhile, Medicaid, the program that pays for health care for the poor, now covers more people than Medicare, placing an enormous strain on both state and federal budgets.
As a nation, we face a chronic disease epidemic, and along with it, a crisis of unsustainable rising costs, high demand, and worsening patient outcomes.
Over the past five years, Medicaid spending has surged by some 50%—another unsustainable trend that diverts funds from schools, roads, bridges, and high-speed internet.
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https://x.com/McCulloughFund?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1907511535078936726%7Ctwgr%5Ef9f35519b75e7cec3918ec25a81a31d7d2a7cd11%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theautomaticearth.com%2F2025%2F04%2Fdebt-rattle-april-4-2025%2FWATCH – Dr. Mary Talley Bowden STUNS Tucker Carlson
9 MILLION American children have received the latest COVID-19 mRNA booster shot… and no one’s talking about it.
———–April 4, 2025 at 2:38 pm #185524jb-hb
ParticipantAdolescence, the Netflix fictional show about “Domestic Incel Terrorists,” which the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom referred to ON CAMERA as a DOCUMENTARY and which has been wildly promoted BY the Yoookay government, which attempts to mentally transfer disrespectful treatment of women, violence towards women, and knife crime, FROM a recently imported group TO 12 year old English boys.
All part of the Socialist program attempting to give every single boy CPTSD – you know, fucking child abuse.
You can see the same intent played out in the Gillette commercials. Did a young boy chew a graham cracker into an L shape, point it at someone and say “pew pew”? Well, make sure to call in a swat team to hopefully terrify him and scar him psychologically forever.
Why? Ask A Socialist. In every interaction, there is an oppressor and the only question is WHO is the privileged oppressor. People are not individuals, they are part of blobs. These blobs share things like guilt, shame, and of course, therefore punishment. Children – provided they have XY chromosomes – are part of Patriarchy-blob, don’t you see? They just need to Do Better and be tormented.
“Incel” = involuntarily celibate.
This term was coined for any male expressing dissatisfaction anywhere, as an insult. You are supposed to frame any voiced concern by a male into a picture of a gross, low-status male in their parent’s basement, as super icky one. Whatever words they say or type should therefore be heard as “dog barks by icky male”
Moreover, “incels” are, legend has it, SUPER misogynistic, violently so, and this has radicalized them into Far Right Extremism — because of how bitter they are at their inability to get laid, you see.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LTu7HuK4rX4
For example, Ethan Van Sciver was driven out of the Comic Book industry by socialists, who took it over and ruined it. He released his own books through IndieGoGo, socialists TRIED to cancel him, failed, he made millions that the now totally wokeist comic industry could get no % of.
Despite having a wife and children and being very happy, socialists screeched everywhere in mad repetition insisted that he was an “incel”
So the villian in “Adolescence” is an INCEL –
You would WANT a 12 year old to be celibate, wouldn’t you? No? (well, not female school teachers…)
And you… assume that TWELVE year olds, being rendered…. uh…. involuntarily celibate, have developed a full blown misogynistic hate for women??!?!? Because of the sexual frustration THEY HAVE YET TO BE CAPABLE OF EXPERIENCING????
Oh, by the way, turns out the docume– fictional show was funded by the UK government. What a surprise.
April 4, 2025 at 3:08 pm #185525jb-hb
ParticipantThey’re going to be showing this show as curriculum in UK – sorry, Yoookay – middle schools all over the country.
April 4, 2025 at 3:09 pm #185526D Benton Smith
Participant@DrD
ASPNAZ has apparently been replaced with an entirely new, thoughtful person. All this weeks insights I agree with entirely. Lezbe friends..
I noticed the same switcheroo, and agree that the new guy is way better than the last guy. However, and let us not ignore, forget nor minimize, the fact that some sort of purposeful deception is still at play, and that it is not an accident or personal foible. because the aspnaz username is still in use but NOT by the same guy. That moniker is a password protected “user-name/screen-name arrangement. The only way that the new guy can be using it is if he got from the same place the old guy did, which means that those two (or more) guys are connected, and that they are connected for a purpose that they choose not to share with the rest of us.
I can only think of only one good reason for such deception, which is that the deceiver thinks that it’s not good for their purposes and intent for us to know what their true purposes and intent truly are.
The new guy is quite rationally sweet and persuasive I must admit. So far. So was the last guy writing under the same “aspnaz” nom d’plume. So was whatsizname, “A Few Know The Truth”, and countless others before them.
I am not complaining. What I am saying is critique not criticism. @Aspnaz is more than welcome to be here, so far as my opinion is concerned. I learn much from liars, and encourage them to lie to me at every opportunity because the more they lie the more I learn.
So, what’s up @aspnaz? Why are you pretending to be someone who you are not, and have a truer purpose which you choose not to reveal?
April 4, 2025 at 3:13 pm #185527phoenixvoice
Participant@ Maxwell Quest
Regarding “Covid time”…
Technically, my closest friends who were themselves vaxxed and thought the entire world should be as well, mildly chided me, and shared the platitudes going around about why I should be vaxxed. I calmly refuted their points, stating that I was already immune, and that there was insufficient evidence to evaluate otherwise. If pressed, I could easily look up specific references of scientific papers that showed that my point had as much validity as the predominant narrative. I understand that two good friends of mine living at the local retirement community (in that time, one is his late 70s, the other in her late 80s,) shared a conversation clucking over my perfidy. I was not amused, but I recognized it for what it was — they cared, and they were “mothering me.” I was annoyed at the time, but I shrugged it off. They are still my friends.I warned the woman that I just spoke of not to take boosters…she said that she would do as her primary care doctor recommends — she likes her PCP. Her PCP has swallowed the vaccine rubbish hook, line, and sinker. I accepted her decision — there was nothing else that I could do. A few weeks later, I spent 3 hours with her a couple days after her first booster. I then had a headache for 3 days that would not respond to analgesics. (Shedding?)
I warned the man that I spoke of in an email to several fellow musicians, cautioning them to refuse the boosters. A woman on that email brought in her husband, a well-respected professor at ASU, who must have made a lot of money over the years, judging by the niceness of their home. The ASU professor used mainstream Covid narrative stuff to reassure those who received my email that my views were full of holes like Swiss cheese. It was not cruel — he just cited official government (dis)info. I realized that my efforts were futile. We remain friends.
My parents, sister living in AZ, and I were worried that my (already vaxxed) sibs in another state would vax their kids. My parents and sister were uncomfortable sharing their concerns with the other two siblings. I said that I would do it, because I knew that I could not live at ease knowing that I had been too fearful to share information that could have prevented the death and ill health of my nieces and nephews. I crafted and sent the email. My brother and sister in another state were not receptive, and politely told me so. At least I can rest easy knowing that I tried.
Regarding the shunning at the public park…sure, it hurt emotionally a little bit. It was also kind of exhilarating and eye-opening. It freed me from the congregation. To see their hypocrisy on display, and their blindness to their own behavior, lemmings following the minister who personally confronted me — she saw it her duty to do so…I will never forget that. It was a thought-provoking 15-minutes. I was not surprised. I deliberately went maskless to a masked event to see what would ensue. My spouse and I were en route to a family dinner — I followed the experience with a conversation with my spouse in the car ride, and then several hours in the good company of my parents, sister, BIL, and their kids.
One of the weird things about wokism is this treatment of emotional pain as some sort of horrid taboo. While
I am all too familiar with how devastating and destructive on-going emotional pain can be, (causing cPTSD, etc.,) brief emotional pain is a part of the human condition. We learn from it. We grow and move on.April 4, 2025 at 3:33 pm #185528D Benton Smith
ParticipantYa know, the more I think about it the more it sticks in my craw that @aspnaz is some kind of fake. If there is one thing that sets this forum apart from others it is that its participants (and what a motley crew we are) are who they present themselves to be. Except for @aspnaz.
It’s okay with me if whoever-they-are chose to continue playing a purposefully deceptive game.
But I have no intention of letting them slip through unnoticed or challenged as a freebie.
Answer up @aspaz whoever you are and whatever your game is. What’s up, Bro?
April 4, 2025 at 3:45 pm #185529jb-hb
ParticipantOh, forgot to mention – that Adolescence show – is based on a real knife murder by an illegal immigrant, which they race-swapped onto native born English boys. (because no real world example could be found)
The UK government is enacting new policies “to fight young white incels” citing this SHOW as a reason!
Starmer has called it a Documentary “accidentally” MULTIPLE times, including from prepared written speeches! Once in front of Parliment. oopsie.
It only remains to find the connection to USAID funding.
Hey UK, counter-suggestion:
A show about a girl who falsely accuses a boy of rape. You can call it something catchy like “Mattress Girl” and show it in every middle school, right?
Because injustice and lies are wrong and we don’t like things that are wrong ….right?
Favorite comment so far – in light of Parliment needing to Do Something because of fictional TV shows
I just watched Godzilla, and i want to know when starmer is going to tackle the kaiju problem? Godzilla should be shown in schools so that children can be made aware of the dangers of giant ancient monsters!
April 4, 2025 at 4:01 pm #185530D Benton Smith
Participant@JustSomeRandomer
@ByronBishop, nah man – those Chinese fellas sneaked over under cover of night, took all the factories apart and smuggled them back home to China before anyone knew what was happening. That’s what I’m hearing anyway.
Welllllll … Ya knowww … In a manner of speaking ……
That’s exactly what they did, but the way that they managed to do it had a lot more moving pieces than that. At its most fundamentally basic level you could rightfully say that they did it the old fashioned way. The bought off, bribed and blackmailed American “leaders” (both business, banking and governmental), many off whom were all too willing and eager to take the money and betray their own country.
The Chinese did it alright, and they had enthusiastically willing assistants from all over the place. You can’t really blame them though. It was self defense. The Western Empire was literally killing them (and had been for centuries) and it had finally got to the point where the rest of the world (China included) either had to fight back or DIE IN SLAVERY.
Personally, I side with the rebels, but it has gotten so chaotic “out there” that it typically causes more confusion to put names to the warring factions than it is to just let the chaos work itself out according to First Principles basics like Good vs Bad , Truth vs Lie, and truly benevolent good will towards one’s fellow creatures vs violent hatred and death.
April 4, 2025 at 4:06 pm #185531jb-hb
Participant“I have never known a city or fortress to stand that possessed a postern gate wide enough to admit an ass laden with gold”
-Philip of Macedon
April 4, 2025 at 4:12 pm #185535zerosum
ParticipantCool invisible cape
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1907851369798635687April 4, 2025 at 4:43 pm #185536those darned kids
ParticipantWell, I think the fine choices President Trump has made, especially Secretary Rubio and Secretary Hegseth, reflect the excellent judgement President Trump has consistently shown.
With such guidance, America will truly be GREAT AGAIN.
April 4, 2025 at 4:52 pm #185537John Day
ParticipantTouche’
Female Fencer Expelled For Refusing To Compete Against Male Opponent
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/female-fencer-expelled-refusing-compete-against-male-opponentApril 4, 2025 at 4:58 pm #185538John Day
Participant@DBS & Dr.D: This may be Aspnaz the Third. It was Aspnaz the Second who was more belligerent.
@Aspnaz-III: Good-on-ya. Your devout father would prefer this.
April 4, 2025 at 5:02 pm #185539John Day
Participant@Zerosum: I think a green rain-slicker lined with a space-blanket would be about the same. That may be what it is.
April 4, 2025 at 5:13 pm #185540D Benton Smith
ParticipantThe United States has never shown the slightest hesitation or unwillingness to bomb the life out of anybody if a) there was money and power to be made from it, and b) they thought they could pull it off and get away with it.
That’s basically all that you really need to know about U.S. Foreign Policy. And domestic policy too, for that matter, as the original inhabitants of the Continent can tell you.
April 4, 2025 at 5:24 pm #185541jb-hb
ParticipantI hope it is not lost on any resident Socialists that unlike AFKTT, I am not repeating the same talking point over and over. Instead, I think of something NEW every day. It’s my 1,000,000,001 Ways Socialists Wear Clown Shoes series. <honk>
I like things like D&D, Star Wars, Libraries, Having a Job… when socialists ruin these things, I complain about it.
I figure if someone was ruining your socialism, you’d complain about it. Instead, I get the impression there’s timid socialists and non-timid socialists. The timid ones watch every depredation, every absurdity, and lie limp and flat, waiting for the non-timid socialists to pick them up and carry them into the end zone where they can raise a socialist fist in victory.
Otherwise, you’d see me as a friend and ally. After all, I’m doing the heavy lifting, complaining about and criticizing the ruination of YOUR favorite thing.
I can’t completely tell if you’re waiting for ME to pick you up and carry you into one end zone or for non-timid socialists to pick you up and carry you into the OTHER end zone.
But if it really WERE bothering you, if your Real Socialism were being ruined, there’s a very obvious response we’d be watching for
April 4, 2025 at 5:30 pm #185542DarkMatter
Participantπ
If every possible numeric sequence is found in π you could digitize the entire universe in 3D down to the Planck length over its 14 billion year history in femtoseconds and that digitization would be found somewhere in π. Actually it would be found an infinite number of times in π. Humans can’t comprehend what infinite really means.April 4, 2025 at 5:32 pm #185543D Benton Smith
Participant@jb_hb
“I have never known a city or fortress to stand that possessed a postern gate wide enough to admit an ass laden with gold”
-Philip of Macedon
That observation is a real keeper. Phil may not have been a nice man, but he sure was a smart one.
April 4, 2025 at 5:35 pm #185544D Benton Smith
ParticipantHumans can’t comprehend what infinite really means.
All I know is that every time I’ve tried to comprehend infinity, I’ve had to give it up because I knew I would never get there.
April 4, 2025 at 5:38 pm #185545those darned kids
Participanti can’t do it. i tried to be tdk2, but my fingertips really ache.
ok,
back to normalito!
April 4, 2025 at 5:40 pm #185546John Day
ParticipantOld allegations investigated last year, a warning he did not heed:
Russell Brand Charged With Rape, Sexual Assault
The 49-year-old has previously denied all allegations, calling them “very, very hurtful,” and insisting that his relationships have been “absolutely, always consensual.”https://www.zerohedge.com/political/russell-brand-charged-rape-sexual-assault
April 4, 2025 at 5:42 pm #185547D Benton Smith
Participantπ
If every possible numeric sequence is found in π you could digitize the entire universe in 3D down to the Planck length over its 14 billion year history in femtoseconds and that digitization would be found somewhere in n.”You kick that off with a pretty big “If“. The irony in both the word and the statement is the fact that even though what you state is intuitively true, it would take an infinite amount of time to actually prove it.
April 4, 2025 at 5:42 pm #185548those darned kids
ParticipantApril 4, 2025 at 5:44 pm #185549those darned kids
Participantbad (good?) socialists:
April 4, 2025 at 5:45 pm #185550D Benton Smith
Participant@ThoseDarnedKids
Maybe the only good Socialist is the one that resides only in the minds of good Socialists.
April 4, 2025 at 5:53 pm #185551those darned kids
Participantoops
April 4, 2025 at 5:58 pm #185552John Day
ParticipantMatt Taibbi Files $10 Million Libel Suit Against Dem Rep. For Accusing Him Of ‘Serial Sexual Harassment’
“Not ever accused”, says Taibbi.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/matt-taibbi-files-10-million-libel-suit-against-dem-rep-accusing-him-serial-sexualApril 4, 2025 at 5:59 pm #185553those darned kids
Participantdbs!
(oops not for thee, i double-tried for pic. nope.)
anyhoo,
i really don’t understand. the last time there was socialism in america was when hugo chavez gave a bunch of poor people in the u.s. free heating oil.
oh, and when the cubans offered to help after katrina but were turned away.
other than that, i don’t really understand.
¿¡is this why the fda is clamping down on amish farmers!?
April 4, 2025 at 6:04 pm #185554John Day
ParticipantUgh!
Hungary is withdrawing from the ICC, the Viktor Orban government has announced, hours after Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu arrived in the country for a state visit. Orban while standing alongside Netanyahu for a press conference called The Hague-based court a “political tool”.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eu-state-withdraws-international-criminal-courtApril 4, 2025 at 6:24 pm #185555D Benton Smith
ParticipantDoes anyone think that today’s leadership (and I use the word loosely) just woke up one fine morning and decided to lie to you about vitally important things, steal your stuff and try their darnedest to do you in?
Or is it more likely the case that our leadership has been lying to us all along? Lots of ways to lie, ya know. One way is to know a truth but keep it secret for personal advantages, even though others are suffering terribly as consequence of that dangerous secret.
I’ve been around the block a few times and I can testify with great certitude that friends do not keep secrets from friends and remain true friends for long. It just don’t work that way.
And America’s so-called “leadership” has been keeping some very dark secrets from you for a very long time. In fact, they’ve been doing that for so long, and about such dark secrets, that they aren’t really your friend any more. Not even the ones who try to convince you that they are.
C’mon folks. Donald Trump’s entire Administration is committing violently lethal ethnic cleansing in Gaza and comparable violence in Ukraine, Yemen and Syria … with more venues threatened and promised for the very near future. Do you think that his real reasons are the reasons that he’s telling you? Do you think he is being open and transparently honest with us about this whole Administration’s actual financial and political relationship with Israel and other Zionists elsewhere?
Don’t become so outraged about the most recent lies that you forget that the lies of the past decades are STILL lies, and that those old lies are harming you as much or more right now than they did way back when you swallowed them the first time.
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