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    Odilon Redon The Birth of Venus II c.1910   • Trump Tells Americans ‘It Won’t Be Easy’ (RT) • Asian Stocks Plunge Amid Trump Tariffs Fallout (RT)
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 7 2025]

    #185696
    Dr. D
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    My God I love this. I need to paint this on my house.
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    “Bessent Rejects Recession Talk, Calls Market Turmoil “A MAG7 Problem, Not MAGA Problem.” 
    “Again, this is an adjustment process – we saw with President Regan…”

    Suggested, perhaps confirmed: they are planning the re-set early, get it in and recovering by midterms. Reagan 1987. There was nothing else to do. Since stocks were 90% overvalued, what was your plan? To make them 99% overvalued? Stocks coming down means rich people are getting poor. In a strange way that makes poor people rich. That is: we’re all bidding on the same real goods. 8% of bidders just got drained. That should make them easier in comparison to buy, but we all go down and are rocked together. Wealth Disparity is record highs and is the key, one of the only reliable indicators for collapse and (Glorious) Revolution. You hear this repeated daily, while burning your neighbor’s car. Well the worker gets sacked $2/hr in pay while the top 1% lose half, adding to millions. Sorry, how else did you want this done? Open to ideas.

    “State Department Revokes, Halts Visas For South Sudan Over Refusal Of Deportees

    WTF? I would think so! They’re YOUR people. No, literally, they are YOUR citizens, they are not the citizens of any other nation on earth. Where do you THINK we should put them? In the sea? Suppose my Visa expires in Milan, and the U.S. refuses to take me back. I’m supposed to what? Live in the airport?

    “AOC Trounces Schumer In 2028 Senate Primary Poll

    Wow. So they really DO hate Democrats like cancer. And if AOC is headlined, she’ll lose to the center. Badly. Perfect situation.

    All nations instantly capitulating. So after 80 years it only took 48 hours? Argentina, Vietnam, Israel, England (but not Canada? Rlly?) more headed our way. England gave an effusive capitulation, then leans on how he and The Donald have this really close, personal, almost brother-like love, in which he’s sure to give England super-special consideration. Whut? Like the guy who spent the English budget on rigging U.S. elections against him? Uh-huh.

    Well, he wrote about this in the Telegraph, …about ten words before he talked about Ukraine. UkraineUkraineUkraine, all channels, all the time. Because: Ukraine, Nation-ending economic tariffs, who can really tell the difference? Same thing, really.

    “I find it extraordinary that anyone, especially my Democratic colleagues, can be opposed to election integrity. That’s like being opposed to children, or prosperity, or golden retrievers.”

    They are opposed to Children, Prosperity, and Golden Retrievers. Esp the first two, enough to actively kill them when found.

    “MIKE BENZ: DECLASSIFY AND PUBLISH EVERY SINGLE USAID PROGRAM—PERIOD”

    Sunlight. Solves all problems. I can’t see any problem with this: that we were doing illegal things, screwing enemies and allies alike overseas? Yeah, we know. No risk there. The point is that THIS admin does not approve of that (hopefully), so admitting it is a sharp line to stopping it, not just for 3 ½ years, but far longer.

    “”When the criminal justice system and the judges and the prosecutors are rigged, you don’t even have a country anymore. Because they can arrest the president. They can arrest the politicians,”

    Working like a charm. I know.

    “Few economic philosophies have shaped America’s prosperity as profoundly as Henry Clay’s American System—a blueprint for national strength and self-sufficiency. Developed in the early 19th century, Clay’s vision centered on protective tariffs, a strong national banking system, infrastructure development, and the responsible use of natural resources. These pillars propelled the United States into economic dominance.”

    Everyone’s arguing “Chaos!!! Dogs and Cats! He has no idea!!!” What. The. Actual? He’s dong this Plan, a Plan they’ve been talking about since 1980. Will this plan work, like all the Socialist, Progressive, Utopian Plans? Uh, THOSE plans were only just thought up, never been tried. And apparently, whenever tried, all failed. THIS plan is a plan that’s worked everywhere it’s tried, for 100 years at a pop. So although it’s an argument worth having, we know it CAN work. Worked just fab for China only 10 years ago, so…

    And the “American Plan” is actually deeper, goes to Hamilton. Same base idea although there’s more in Clay, the American extraction, the one that REALLY got them going in 1770 etc was to EXTRACT MONEY. Coins. It was precisely this monetary, currency-rigging economic colonialism. Old as time. So many years later (remember, it was 1790, 25 years) Hamilton sets up essentially this same plan, but where AMERICAN Banks, SELF-Finance, instead of borrowing from Rothschilds, London. …Wait, is that the SAME thing that got Lincoln killed? And McKinley? And Kennedy? And Trump? Whoops, not quite.

    ….Oh, and HAMILTON himself. …As I allege Burr, sleeping with a British Officer (Wife), and trying to set up a competing nation (in Florida), was all along a British mole, killing the annoying Hamilton for the ultimate affront AFTER warning him off by murdering his son. Thus why Jefferson went nuclear on him, in no uncertain terms, a thing Tommy was not prone to and didn’t do to anyone else. But what can he say? Tell the American people the American mythos and American heroes was really about cutting secret deals with secret societies of England, then double-crossing them? So that several, many, of the Founding Fathers were to some extent double-crossing double-dippers?

    Anyway, this plan is also the HAMILTON Plan, where we finance ourselves. Which is the “Greenbacks” Plan of Lincoln, funding the war OURSELVES. Being independent ourselves.
    Or, if you like “cutting out the Rentier Class.” Isn’t everyone for that? Why are the Democrats against that now?

    Yes, part of that is investing in our own infrastructure. But again, self-funding. The IMF sells this to build a dam in Peru to then owe infinity money they default on and get extractions. Print your own money, float your own bonds, and build your own dam, paying your own people, not Halliburton. They’ll then call this “Socialism”. And is it? Who knows? Definitionally not. But it’s the Government making like, the Erie Canal that then gives 100x value to assets (crops) that were landlocked and stranded. It DOES create wealth. Then in comparison to the railroads, the next fight is over how that money is distributed. As Redneck blurbed yesterday, where the railway, bad enough in the North, was a real Plantation/Colonial system raking the South. Partially how the locals are less allied and punch back at the railroads, containing them. The North, worldwide (cold) tend to be more associative and work together in groups, which works. The South tends to be independent and live for today, (no deadly winter) which makes them fierce cavalry, etc, but not organized in quartermaster, which really wins wars.

    So when Cheeto hands out $5k to win elections and puts $1T in projects that help us (ports? Rails?) then there is still a fight. Don’t just let him, allocate so you get your part, a balance of power with CN BNSF or whoever claims to own it. Same with Exxon: we may need them to drill it, but ultimately it’s OUR oil. I want our proper cut since the whole goldmine is ours. I’m just paying them to pack and move it. This is standard capitalism, as evolved over these 200 years.

    The group, which represents major producers such as InBev, Heineken and Carlsberg,”

    Great InBev and you others: now you can sell back your American subsidiaries for cash. Stellantis might make a decent car again if only Europe would be launched into the sun. Harley: same.

    “• French PM Accuses Trump Of ‘Interference’ On Le Pen (RT)

    See? That’s only good when England and the EU do it.

    “A senior Polish official has warned US President Donald Trump that any peace deal recognizing Russia’s control over former Ukrainian territories would spell a disaster for the security of European NATO members.”

    Good!

    “should Trump recognize those territories as part of Russia, it would cross a “red line” for Warsaw and its neighbors.”

    So Poland is going to invade? That would be so sad! How long do you think they can hold Pennsylvania? We’d shoot them to ribbons in Camden alone. …And I mean the inner city gangs.

    Why do they hate elections and self-determination so much?

    ““An influx of foreigners with different cultures “will lead to the destruction of any country that allows it..”

    Know for 100, 1,000 years that mass immigration always attacks, softens, and collapses a nation. That’s why it’s used.

    “The US Republican Party could face a “bloodbath” in next year’s midterm elections if the “liberation day” tariffs imposed by President Donald Trump backfire, Senator Ted Cruz has warned.”

    Wait: I thought they were a cult, and for censorship. But they BOTH allow people to disagree, AND allow them to talk widely and publicly?

    “An unnamed Downing Street official told The Times that “the world has changed, globalization is over and we are now in a new era.”

    Remember his 2016 inauguration speech? “Giving it back to the People”? And in Europe then, “Globalism is over, your time is over”. They laughed. And here we are. Oh – same time, “Getting all your energy from Russia” with “Why do you have 1% GDP for NATO if Russia is attacking?” Huh. That aged badly too.

    “• The Roberts/Eisen Drama Just Took An Even Darker Turn… (Revolver)

    Since Day 1. His legal papers were all about how the President was King and had all power…so Bush installed him. Roberts is basically an AntiConstitutionalist. And then runs the FISA court on that basis, under the Patriot Act, which I missed at the time. Any wiretap, indictment the President wants, even Biden? Done. Roberts’ your man.

    Note how clever he is to release these rulings — all except for Obamacare #A-1 seems from space illegal flip flop – all plausible the “Conservative” Justice on a “Conservative” court. Yet undermining at every point, burrowing in and allowing the rocket-shift Left. Like, in 2001, you think courts would not just support, but DEMAND parents to chop up their kids, have their daughters raped and noses broken? Gee, I think not. So quick. They made it seem so normal. This level of competence makes their evil very, very dangerous.

    “• 12,000 Brits Arrested Per Year Over Social Media Posts – Times (RT)

    How many in Russia? Half as many with 10x the population?

    #185697
    zerosum
    Participant

    Trump insisted. The tariffs represent “an economic revolution, and we will win… we will make America great again,”, “hang tough” in anticipation of the international community’s response to his economic policies.

    You hate the Trump tariff solution.
    Therefore, propose your solutions for the budget negotiations.

    His, Trump, policies seek to revitalize domestic manufacturing, reduce dependency on foreign goods, and address trade imbalances, particularly with China.
    Additionally, tariff revenue contributes to lowering the national debt, reinforcing economic sovereignty.
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    • Anti-Trump Protesters In DC Rally Against Musk’s DOGE Cuts, New Tariffs (NYP)
    “subject to interpretation”
    “Hands Off!” rallies.
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    What and who runs the American judiciary. How much longer for John Roberts?

    • The Roberts/Eisen Drama Just Took An Even Darker Turn… (Revolver)

    Read more…
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    #185698
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Only the snake will leave you alone and just wants to be left alone.

    #185699
    jb-hb
    Participant

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/img_3937-1.png?w=640&ssl=1

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/img_3942.jpg?w=540&ssl=1

    #185700
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Frame it:

      Listen: we are fighting out of our charity, honor, and immense good will. This is what Vance was criticized for saying we are being “ruined by empathy.” Abused, more like it, but – here’s the fact – we can withdraw that at any time. You won’t like it. Even THIS is us being incredibly, overwhelmingly, dangerously, foolishly charitable to you.
      “ruined by empathy”

    Bob might want to add items 23 and 24 to his Psychopathy inventory based on your recommendation.

    Paraphrased “[abused] by empathy”

    Maybe you’re making a case for Cleckley’s concept of “positive adjustment” as a distinction from Hare and his psychopathy checklist. I doubt it. I always liked the fact Hare made a concession for alcohols effect….so considerate.

    Someone had to show your boy Hamel Bowman BLANTON Vance some empathy maybe even sympathy for that ‘Cpl’ on his resumé and the Appalachia thingy except those are distinctions of a sort but not merit in JD’s current social circle.
    Exclusionary runs up against exclusive. His Indian immigrant inlaws want to bypass that whole Hillbilly and USMC enlisted path, you know, avoid any of the heavy lifting so to speak. Let their money do the work.
    My God the projection.

    https://psychology-tools.com/test/pcl-22

    #185701
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Trumps tariffs gambit reminds me of the scene early in the movie Braveheart where the stone cold psychopathic English king, Henry the First (“Longshanks”) ordered his own archers to annihilate his own infantry to clear the field and thereby enable his cavalry to sweep through and win the battle.

    I feel like his infantry must have felt when they realized what old Longshanks was up to. Winning depends heavily on what the user considers winning to be.

    #185702
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    So I guess Trump doesn’t consider that our “Sky’s The Limit” money printing of the world’s Reserve Currency is not any kind of abuse of other countries and has never been used to overwhelm and crush them ruthlessly. Fair’s fair is what I say. Turnabout is fair play. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, and a whole bunch of other metaphors that pretty much imply the same thing.

    The Empire uses a revolver to mug victims in a dark alley and then calls “foul!” when the would-be victim flips the lights on and pulls out a semi-auto gat. Poor baby! Is that would-be victim being mean to you?

    #185703
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    In all things, the Word made Flesh.

      His, Trump, policies seek to revitalize domestic manufacturing, reduce dependency on foreign goods, and address trade imbalances, particularly with China.
      Additionally, tariff revenue contributes to lowering the national debt, reinforcing economic sovereignty.

    He Spaketh it and His word Springeth it into Being.
    I remember the same insane shit being said to steelworkers circa 1982 and memorialized by Hollywood in Tom Cruise’s tour de force, “All The Right Moves” and back then the Economic Archnemesis was Japan. Still there are crickets chirping in Johnstown. Trickling ever so slowly.

    Anyone check on the JFk assassination file release? Are we up to 1/3rd, 1/2, 2/3rds as All and Everything yet you goddam nattering nabob of negativity?

    It’s for The Poor people….

    #185704
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The only time that anyone has ever needed a government is when they needed to protect themselves from a government, and in the end always wound up even more desperately needing protection from the government that “saved” them. I challenge any student of history to provide an exception to that.

    #185705
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I was at my parents’ home yesterday, my brother called, and he shared his fears about the tariffs: he is a sales rep for a technology widget company and apparently their largest supplier factory is in Cambodia. Trump has slapped a 46% tariff on Cambodia. Additionally, my brother fears recession — in 2008 the company he works for called in all of its employees and asked them to take a large voluntary pay cut, otherwise it would have to slash the workforce. He is currently supporting 2 kids in college, and a third will soon be starting college.

    Well, it looks like Cambodia is chomping at the bit to make a deal with the US regarding tariffs. A recession will bite a lot of people. I sympathize with my brother…on the other hand…he has been making very, very good money for a very long time. Has he not been preparing himself for the next recession? If not…isn’t that a bit foolish?

    #185706
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Those manufacturers Trump wants to bring back to America are the same manufacturers who screwed you over the first time when they went offshore to avoid paying fair wages, fair prices and fair practices in the first place. I am just ever-so-sure that they’ve learned their lesson and intend to play fair and treat you nice now. Of course, first YOU have to cover all of their expenses to make that move as painless as possible for them after they’ve been through so much hardship on your behalf.

    Damn! There I am being cynical and sarcastic again! I need to learn how to blindly trust in the goodwill of liars, murders and thieves. I’m sure if I do that they’ll behave better this time.

    #185707
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Bill Ackman on Howie Lutnick

    1.

      It was unfair of me to lash out at @howardlutnick. I don’t think he is pursuing his self interest. I am sure he is doing the best he can for the country while representing the President as Commerce Secretary. It is not an easy job and we don’t know how the sausage was made.

    Sausage? He wouldn’t have a clue.

    Can the real Ackman stand up plz?

    2.

      I just figured out why @howardlutnick is indifferent to the stock market and the economy crashing. He and Cantor are long bonds. He profits when our economy implodes. It’s a bad idea to pick a Secretary of Commerce whose firm is levered long fixed income. It’s an irreconcilable.

    Looks like Bill reconciled the “irreconcilable”.
    That’s how you become a Billionaire And SuperTweeterer.

    I’m buying the Bond angle with Howie Lutnick except that contrasts with Trump’s newfound devotion to The Poor.

    #185708
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The current Administration is not looking for geniuses. It’s looking for people who will just shut the fuck up and do what they’re told. Hmmm! Much like the last Administration, just not as sickeningly obvious about it. Higher caliber of liar.

    Children are still being trafficked and slaughtered en masse. Money is still being counterfeited and stolen by the billions per day. War is till being waged and threatened for exclusively commercial purposes. No one has been arrested and the one culprit with a legitimate outstanding warrant (Netanyahu) is having tea and cakes in the White House this afternoon.

    Situation Normal.

    #185709
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Overheard:

    Where’s your empathy for Howie Lutnick’s Sausage-making burden?

    #185710
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Larry just hit the nail on its head. SMACK! Exactly right, Larry. That’s why the US/Israel play to goad Iran into a preemptive self-defense military action of any kind. Such a move would probably keep Russia out of the fight, and that new trade route would not be built. If it IS built then the US doesn’t need Israel much anymore because such a trade route would largely OBSOLETE the Suez and Bosporus choke points, and free the BRICS from depending on those historical enemies for shipping goods to the world.

    #185711

    The foundation of the edifice of globalists is rotten.
    So many hoped that it would finally fall.
    Then comes a man they claimed was misbegotten-
    It’s Donald Trump: the human wrecking ball.

    And when it falls to dust just like the towers
    The shift occurs from powerful to powers.

    #185712
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    “Those manufacturers Trump wants to bring back to America are the same manufacturers who screwed you over the first time when they went offshore to avoid paying fair wages, fair prices and fair practices in the first place.”

    And thus we see how the rules of the game determine how it will be played. As in Monopoly, the ruthless take-no-prisoners approach will often win the day. It seems unethical, unfair, immoral even, but hey, do you want to get run over or win?

    Let’s say you are a true blue American, who wants to build PC’s in you home state, pay decent wages, etc. But one of your five competitors decides that he can save 40% by building them using the cheap labor in Vietnam. He lowers his PC prices and starts eating into your market share. To survive, the others decided they must do the same thing. But you’re a true blue American, so instead of offshoring your manufacturing, you talk your employees into taking a pay cut and chisel away at product quality. This keeps you afloat for a few more years, but your top talent leaves for greener pastures, and your market share dwindles. Eventually, you are bought out or close your doors. Goodbye manufacturing jobs.

    If there is a loophole that will give you a competitive edge, then you would be a fool not to exploit it. If you refuse, the Board will find someone who will and throw you out on your ear, sans stock options. Very few business leaders have the option of following their heart or national loyalty.

    #185713
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @MaxwellQuest

    And so we find ourselves coming back to that same old moral choice that such situations always present to people who set out to do a good thing. The question is just how far one is willing to go to succeed in winning that presumably good thing. Is one willing to do a BAD thing in order to achieve that good thing?

    If they are, then they have stepped onto the slipperiest of all slippery slopes, and we all know where that leads, and it’s not a good place. That’s why the place has so many rich criminals in it, and a fair share who will swear on a stack of Bibles (and mean it!) that they are just trying to do a good thing.

    I’m not pleading innocence, and I’m not riding any kind of a moral high horse. I’m just telling it like it is.

    #185714
    Red
    Participant

    DBS In business the end justifies the means. Kinda the same in .gov just that an end isn’t required, if one happens along so be it.

    #185715
    John Day
    Participant

    Triffin Dilemma Switcheroo https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/triffin-dilemma-switcheroo

    Wikipedia: The Triffin dilemma (sometimes the Triffin paradox) is the conflict of economic interests that arises between short-term domestic and long-term international objectives for countries whose currencies serve as global reserve currencies. This dilemma was identified in the 1960s by Belgian-American economist Robert Triffin. He noted that a country whose currency is the global reserve currency, held by other nations as foreign exchange (FX) reserves to support international trade, must somehow supply the world with its currency in order to fulfill world demand for these FX reserves. This supply function is nominally accomplished by international trade, with the country holding reserve currency status being required to run an inevitable trade deficit.[1] After going off of the gold standard in 1971 and setting up the petrodollar system later in the 1970s, the United States accepted the burden of such an ongoing trade deficit in 1985 with its permanent transformation from a creditor to a debtor nation.[2] The U.S. goods trade deficit is currently on the order of one trillion dollars per year.​ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triffin_dilemma

    ​ The US was an industrialized net-exporting country which had accumulated 80% of global central-banking gold reserves by the end of WW-2, when the Bretton Woods agreement placed the $US, fully backed by gold, as the global reserve currency for trade and international finance.
    The Vietnam War caused an outflow of US gold, though trade was otherwise balanced, according to Michael Hudson’s analysis. Nixon had to default on gold, and Hudson’s “Petrodollar” scheme from his book “Super Imperialism” was instituted as US policy, and formalized with Saudi Arabia under Nixon/Kissinger.
    With the 1973 Arab Oil Embargo, oil prices rose high enough to curb economic growth and cause stagflation. This was combatted monetarily by the raising of US Treasury interest rates to 20% in 1981, making real returns on $US debt secure, but ruining US industrial investment, which could not pay those rates. From that point, the $US value was supported by interest payments and Saudi oil, not exports.
    American industrial production became hollowed-out in a sequence of steps which let American industry languish, raised costs of US labor, and exported American industry to countries with low labor and environmental costs, while shipping became bigger and cheaper, and globalists took profits from imports and exports.
    China followed the steps of Germany and Japan after WW-2, adopting Henry Clay’s American System – a blueprint for national strength and self-sufficiency. Developed in the early 19th century, Clay’s vision centered on protective tariffs, a strong national banking system, infrastructure development, and the responsible use of natural resources. https://realclearwire.com/articles/2025/04/03/trump_and_our_return_to_the_american_system_152594.html
    What Trump is doing openly with his global tariff-shock is to force widespread adjustment to a world where the US again becomes a net industrial exporter, using this system. He says the $US needs to remain as global reserve currency, but that would only be a transitional position. Already Bitcoin and gold are being elevated in status at the US Treasury, with informed speculation that Bitcoin will be blown in a big bubble, using US gold and $US to pump it up, then making a payoff of US debt with Bitcoin, and likely moving global reserve status to some mixed basket, mutually agreed by major powers.
    The composite-rumor is basically that Team-Trump is kneecapping all political and financial opponents, especially European globalist-finance, to bring on a global recession with them in a crippled position, and forcing the endo of globalism’s game, which has been to take profits from cheap trade. Those profits will be taken by national tariffs, cutting out global financial skim.
    Global financial skim has paid a lot of bribes and inducements for a long time, so it is hard to combat, which is why the DOGE computer-forensic-auditing and cuts to funds have been enacted. The payouts of bribes are interrupted in the US and globally, notably by eliminating USAID.
    The global recession will be used to stop inflation, which will force the Federal Reserve to cut rates on 10 year Treasury debt. Janet Yellen refinanced a LOT of US debt in 1-2 year debt, much of which comes due this year. Trump needs enough recession to knock the interest rate down under 3%, better under 2.5%, from the current effective rate of 4% in secondary markets. This is part of balancing the federal budget, which is important going forward as a non-reserve-currency country with an export-based economy.
    Another piece of Henry Clay’s system is to rebuild American infrastructure, including essential services, taking those costs onto the state, taking them off employers, so exports can be more competitive globally. This mixed-economy is nothing new, and it removes rentier-profit drag upon the real economy, which is the goal of classical economics. We have yet to see the plans for those changes.

    Francis Leader and Johnny Vedmore, EDGE FOUNDATION, Funded by Epstein to teach Technobrats how to become billionaires
    Epstein is so much more influential than anyone guesses.
    He funded the organisation which trained the technobrats, Musk, Thiel, Besos, Zuckerberg.
    Elon Musk’s Training in Psychological Manipulation Funded by Epstein
    The psychological manipulation of the masses via various intelligence-linked programs is well-documented. The officially sanctioned, government-led programming of the general population is not a conspiracy theory, it has become accepted by many as a mainstream method to enact control. Such abhorrent and underhand manipulation used to be resigned to the realm of secretive and subversive intelligence programs or campaigns run by major PR companies, but that changed abruptly once Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein took their brand of behavioural economics on the road.
    It was the Democratic Party under Barack Obama that first welcomed the creators of what were eventually termed “nudge units” into the White House. This led to government-attached units set up to subtly “nudge” people into changing their behaviour on behalf of those who wish to control the future direction of society. In the United Kingdom, Richard Thaler also found a friend in David Cameron and his Conservative Party administration, and they soon created what was termed the behavioural insight unit in the United Kingdom.
    The British Governments during this period were already ahead of Thaler in many regards. In 2004, Tony Blair’s New Labour produced a paper entitled: “Personal Responsibility and Changing Behaviour: the state of knowledge and its implications for public policy”. Within this fascinating example of the Government overstepping what may be considered appropriate to the electorate, part of the paper “reviews the growing body of knowledge about alternative, and perhaps more subtle, ways in which government might affect personal behaviour.” The paper concludes that the use of behavioural change would be positive for government policy, stating:
    “Looking to the future there is an evident need to strengthen our theoretical and empirical understanding of what drives behaviour and behavioural change. Just as important will be the wider testing out of policy tools to develop a more sophisticated toolkit for policy-makers. Policy should not simply proclaim personal responsibility or blame, but needs to be shaped around the ways in which people actually think and feel, and the social and psychological forces that influence behaviour.” …
    ..After Richard Thaler, described as “the father of behavioural economics”, published his book in 2008, entitled: “Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness”, those who wanted to manipulate people’s behaviour began to flock to him…
    ..Brockman and Epstein saw many benefits in Thaler’s teachings. They had certain aspects of total technological control covered; they had the ear of many world leaders, they had introduced the Third Way politics of the future into the public arena, with its creator Anthony Giddens also being involved in Edge; but they were yet to figure out how to manufacture the consent of the voting population efficiently… Behavioural economics was the Establishment’s best hope for achieving change amongst regular people, most importantly, without those targeted realising how or why they were being manipulated…
    ..The second part of the Edge Master Class saw only eight Edge members in attendance: Jeff Bezos, Nathan Myhrvold, Salar Kamangar, Daniel Kahneman, Danny Hilis, Paul Romer, Elon Musk and Sean Parker, while the third part also saw George Dyson and France LeClerc join the group. This wasn’t a random group of thinkers, these were some of the most powerful movers and shakers in the digital world. This Edge event saw the leading experts of behavioural economics training the very top echelons of Google, Amazon, YouTube, Space X, Intellectual Ventures, Facebook and Peter Thiel’s Founder Fund… The attendees of this Edge Master Class would soon become the most powerful people in the world…
    ..The third Jeffrey Epstein-funded Master Class in the series which Elon Musk attended was entitled: “The Psychology of Scarcity”, and it begins with a Sendhil Mullainathan quote that suggested they were imagining how to benefit from an impoverished population, stating:
    “Let’s put aside poverty alleviation for a second, and let’s ask, “Is there something intrinsic to poverty that has value and that is worth studying in and of itself?” One of the reasons that is the case is that, purely aside from magic bullets, we need to understand are there unifying principles under conditions of scarcity that can help us understand behavior and to craft intervention. If we feel that conditions of scarcity evoke certain psychology, then that, not to mention pure scientific interest, will affect a vast majority of interventions. It’s an important and old question.”…
    ..The development of X is fundamentally a prescient step towards what Musk perceives as an inevitable new paradigm. The psychological manipulation of the public via powerful social media platforms won’t only be used to reap potential economic benefits for those in control of sites like X, Facebook, or Google, they will be used by the government to sway popular opinion, too… The more information they have about you, the more they can design their “nudges” to best sway your behaviour, whether you want them to or not. And that is the crux of behavioural economics, the more information they have about you, the easier it is to manipulate you into making certain decisions…
    ..Thaler and Sunstein referred to their branch of psychology as “libertarian paternalism” and they saw the desire to nudge as a natural part of a capitalist system…
    ..At the moment, we are providing major companies with masses of our personal information daily and, in return, they are profiling us in more ways than one. That mass of data we supply to these companies allows them to control almost every action we take without us even realising it’s happening. The next step is (was) for Artificial Intelligence to be programmed to systemise this mechanism further until the vast majority of our decisions are controlled by our personal devices…
    .. The term “psyops” is being rebranded as “nudging” …
    ..What we’re currently seeing is an attempt to create a Third Culture of sorts. There may be no better example of an effort to synthesise social science and formal science than technocrats like Elon Musk and J.D. Vance taking control of the levers of political power…
    ..Third Way politics pushes perpetual warfare, austerity and poverty upon us, nudging us into the arms of an unforgiving and unethical form of governance. In the future, the technocrats will be in charge whether you like it or not. They will be the chosen few who will program the algorithms that drive every part of our society…
    ..It is not only individuals conspiring together at Edge, it’s Google, YouTube, Amazon, Twitter/X, Thiel’s Founders Fund, Facebook, Tesla, and Space X. It was these giant corporations which were central to figuring out something very fundamental: How to control the population during the digital age. https://francesleader.substack.com/p/edge-foundation

    #185716
    John Day
    Participant

    Asian stocks plunge amid Trump tariffs fallout
    Markets across Asia-Pacific opened sharply lower, extending last week’s global sell-off​ https://swentr.site/news/615321-asian-stocks-plunge-trump-tariffs/

    ​ Crypto plunges as Trump tariff ‘medicine’ brutalizes global stock markets
    US President Donald Trump told reporters he wasn’t intentionally engineering a market sell-off, but “sometimes you have to take medicine to fix something.”​ https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-plunges-nasdaq-dow-stock-futures-fall-on-open

    ​ But, things could go wrong! Here’s what’s really behind Trump’s tariffs – and how they may backfire
    The massive new levies are not primarily punitive in nature, but could be perilous if they fail to achieve their goal​ https://swentr.site/news/615273-trump-tariffs-goals-backfire/

    “Don’t Be Weak, Don’t Be A PANICAN”: Trump Urges Americans To Hold Tight As “Countries From All Over The World” Negotiate On Tariffs​ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dont-be-weak-dont-be-panican-trump-urges-americans-hold-tight-countries-all-over-world

    ​ The American return to a production-based economy implies dropping the value of the $US, which has been held up by the ability to make actual profits on the stock market and US Treasury debt. Those profits will not be guarantied going forward, as the $US value needs to fall to make exports competitive. IF US stock markets all fall 50% from current values they will reach the March-April 2020 COVID-Lockdown lows, which is probably a good initial reset point. The End Of Globalization https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/end-globalization

    #185717
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ Starmer to proclaim ‘end of globalization’ – Times
    The UK PM will say that tariffs are wrong, but that he understands US President Donald Trump’s “economic nationalism,” according to the paper​ https://swentr.site/news/615298-globalization-uk-starmer-trump/

    ​ Jaguar Land Rover stops exporting to USA as Trump Tariffs come into force
    The FTSE 100 plummeted on Friday in its worst day of trading since the start of the pandemic​ https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/jaguar-land-rover-stops-exporting-10083879

    ​ Is this that same Epstein influence/blackmail ring? What did Roberts DO that week in Czechia? The Roberts/Eisen drama just took an even darker turn…
    ​ According to Norm Eisen—the man who practically wrote the Deep State’s playbook on color revolutions, all things anti-Trump, and lawfare in the US—he and Chief Justice John Roberts are not only good pals, but they even spent a week together in the Czech Republic. According to Norm, the two BFFs were there working on “American rule of law” issues.​ Hmm…
    ​ Norm was so proud of this that he actually bragged about the trip and made it very clear that Roberts isn’t corrupt—he’s just a “close friend” who happened to fly overseas and stay at Eisen’s posh 150-room palace to collaborate on transatlantic political projects.​ https://revolver.news/2025/04/the-roberts-eisen-drama-just-took-an-even-darker-turn/

    ​ Contrarian today: As Global Conflicts Rage, Has Neoliberalism Already Won?
    ​ Fiorella Isabel, Vanessa Beeley, and others are contemplating how a Russia-US detente will herald a new carving up and exploitation of West Asia while cementing some of Greater Israel’s designs on the region. China, by most accounts, is in the lead in the race to replace human labor. And both countries purchase and use Israeli surveillance and population control tech. As Antony Loewenstein documents in his book The Palestine Laboratory, companies like Any Vision developed a system for mass surveillance of Palestinians, and now operates in over 40 countries, including Russia, China, and the US.
    ​ To be fair, China and Russia are more willing to play by international rules, are agreement-capable, and currently fear tearing their social fabric apart — all statements that cannot be made about the US.
    ​ China isn’t afraid to cut oligarchs down to size, although for what reasons isn’t exactly always clear. In Russia, Putin recently announced healthcare for the homeless. The US appeals to greed and has no concern for any potential destabilization that impoverishing country will create.​ https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/04/as-global-conflicts-rage-has-neoliberalism-already-won.html

    ​ Musk warns of ‘real massacre’ in Western Europe
    ​ “With terrorism eventually we will see mass killings in Europe. Your friends, your families, they will all be at risk. We see a huge increase in the number of attacks in Italy and in Europe, in general, and the media tries to reduce the impact of these attacks​”…​ “An influx of foreigners with different cultures “will lead to the destruction of any country that allows it, it is a very difficult situation,” he insisted, as cited by the Corriere della Sera newspaper.
    ​ “There are 8 billion people in the world. If a small percentage of the rest of the world arrives in a country of 50 million, it transforms it into a different country,” Musk explained.
    “A country is not a geography but the people who inhabit it. This is a fundamental concept, which should be obvious,” he added.
    ​ Musk also addressed the issue of sweeping tariffs imposed by Trump on the majority of America’s trading partners on Thursday, expressing hope that the US and EU “will be able to create a very close, stronger partnership… [and] move to a zero-tariff zone in the future with a free trade area between.”​ https://swentr.site/news/615297-musk-eu-migration-terrorism/

    #185718
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ Pick a different red-line, please, sir: Poland warns Trump against ‘historic mistake’ in Russia talks
    Recognizing Moscow’s new territories would be “horrible,” a senior Polish official has said
    ​ In an interview with Financial Times on Sunday, Pawel Kowal, an adviser to Prime Minister Donald Tusk on Ukraine and the head of Poland’s parliamentary foreign affairs committee, said that while “provisional solutions” to halt the fighting might be acceptable, the fulfillment of “Russian expectations to recognize Crimea, Donbas or other parts of Ukraine… would be a historical mistake.”
    ​ Crimea overwhelmingly voted to join Russia in 2014 in a public referendum following a Western-backed coup in Kiev. Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye, and Kherson Regions followed suit in 2022.
    ​ According to Kowal, should Trump recognize those territories as part of Russia, it would cross a “red line” for Warsaw and its neighbors.​ https://swentr.site/news/615299-poland-warns-trump-historic-mistake-russia/

    ​Realignment: Serbia and Hungary move towards military alliance amid regional tensions https://intellinews.com/serbia-and-hungary-move-towards-military-alliance-amid-regional-tensions-374459/

    ​ View from Poland: American soldiers died because they were drunk
    ​ Initially, both the American and Lithuanian commanders presented the incident as a tragic coincidence, suggesting that the swamp was not marked on the map the soldiers had. However, according to reliable inside sources, the truth is much more gruesome. The crew of the vehicle was intoxicated during the exercise, which is confirmed by eyewitness testimony and preliminary findings of investigators.
    ​ The soldiers failed to notice the warning signs that should have warned of the danger zone. When the M88 began to sink, the crew did not realize the situation in time and did not carry out an evacuation that could have saved their lives.
    ​ It was established that the swamp where the M88 fell was not only clearly marked on all available maps, both military and civilian, but also had special warning signs on the ground that were visible even in difficult weather conditions.
    ​ Moreover, conversations with American soldiers at the training ground indicate that before each exercise, an additional survey of the area is conducted, and any changes, such as new wetlands or obstacles, are marked on the available maps.
    ​ The incident with the M88 is not an isolated case when it comes to alcohol-related problems among American soldiers.​ https://en.interaffairs.ru/article/view-from-poland-american-soldiers-died-because-they-were-drunk/

    ​Moon of Alabama, Neocons Attempt To Stall U.S.-Russia Talks https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/04/neocons-attempt-to-sabotage-us-russa-talks.html#more

    Simplicius, Hint of Spring as Russian Pressure Rises on Every Front
    It’s clear that little by little the inevitable acceptance of Russia’s full demands is being digested.
    ​ But what’s particularly fascinating—and egregious—to observe about the above, is the suggestion that “evacuating millions of civilians”, particularly after many of them were allegedly ‘tortured and murdered’, is something so unthinkable, that it beggars the contemporary imagination, and should definitely be resisted by the moral forces of the world. After all, there is simply no place on earth we could even conceive of where millions of people are currently under similar threat of both mass genocide and forced displacement. ​ The highly principled Western press would certainly apprise us of such an obvious parallel, bringing to light the stupendous hypocrisy thereof, were it to exist somewhere on this small rock, no?
    ​ And this highly righteous press would unquestionably condemn the mirroring tragedy—if such a hypothetical one existed—with the same pharisaical outrage as exhibited here, right?​ https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-4625-hint-of-spring-as-russian

    #185719
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ China’s KD-21 missile puts US carriers and bases at range
    China’s new air-launched ballistic missile is now operational, signaling a significant shift in Pacific’s balance of air power​ https://asiatimes.com/2025/04/chinas-kd-21-missile-puts-us-carriers-and-bases-at-range/#

    ​ Trump tariff list names Taiwan as ‘country’
    The move plays into Taipei’s long-standing desire for international recognition, while subtly signalling that Washington may be less willing to kowtow to Beijing’s preferred semantics.​ https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/trump-tariff-list-names-taiwan-as-country/

    ​ Why would China not invade? Taiwan’s new 2nm chip set to power the AI revolution
    Taiwan’s cutting-edge chip will reshape the tech landscape while fortifying its ‘silicon shield’ against a China invasion​ https://asiatimes.com/2025/04/taiwans-new-2nm-chip-set-to-power-the-ai-revolution/

    ​ Exclusive: how the Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg got added to the White House Signal group chat
    ​ Donald Trump’s national security adviser Mike Waltz included a journalist in the Signal group chat about plans for US strikes in Yemen after he mistakenly saved his number months before under the contact of someone else he intended to add, according to three people briefed on the matter.​ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/06/signal-group-chat-leak-how-it-happened

    “Oops”: Trump Shares Video Boasting Of Huge Deadly Strike In Yemen​ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/oops-trump-shares-video-boasting-huge-deadly-strike-yemen

    #185720
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ Drop Site: Yemen’s official state news agency, Saba, reports that a US bombing, recently celebrated publicly by Trump on social media for the elimination of Houthis, actually killed civilians in Hodeidah who were gathering for the Eid holiday.
    ​ Abdulrahman al-Ahnomi, head of the Houthis’ General Corporation for Radio and Television, condemned Trump’s statement, calling the attack on a tribal gathering an act of terrorism. “Targeting a tribal gathering is not a victory—it reflects the US’s failure to identify any real targets​.”​ https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1908701620025581941

    Cost of US military offensive against Houthis nears $1 billion with limited impact​ https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/04/politics/cost-us-military-houthis-limited-impact/index.html

    ​”But be back in court Wednesday morning!” Court agrees to cancel Monday hearing in Netanyahu’s graft trial so he can visit US https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/court-agrees-to-cancel-monday-hearing-in-netanyahus-graft-trial-so-he-can-visit-us/

    ​ Bibi In Washington: 1st Foreign Leader To Negotiate Removal Of Trump’s Tariffs In Person
    ​Israel tried to “avoid the tariffs Trump imposed on nearly every country in the world by announcing it would preemptively lift all tariffs on U.S. products. It didn’t work.”
    ​ This visit, which is Netanyahu’s second to the White House since Trump took office (the first was in early February), was by all accounts rather hastily put together, and also high on the agenda will be the Gaza crisis. Currently there are still 59 hostages still in Hamas and Islamic Jihad captivity – with many feared deceased.
    ​ Israel has controversially expanded the war, and now has Rafah surrounded once again and has ordered an evacuation of the civilian population. Hundreds of thousands have fled the southern Gaza city, also as basic necessities of life for the Palestinian population are running out.
    ​ Netanyahu’s office has has further indicated that “Israel-Turkey relations, the Iranian threat and confronting the International Criminal Court” will be on the agenda.​ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bibi-washington-first-foreign-leader-negotiate-removal-trumps-tariffs-person

    ​Israel kills dozens in Gaza – ‘This is a war of extermination’​ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/4/5/live-israeli-attacks-kill-injure-100-children-each-day-in-gaza-un

    #185721
    John Day
    Participant

    Israel’s war on aid workers​: Israel Killed 15 Paramedics and Rescue Workers one by one, Says UN https://www.stephensemler.com/p/israels-war-on-aid-workers

    ​ Video forces Israel to change story on execution of Palestinian emergency workers in Rafah
    The reversal came after cell phone footage taken by one of the slain medics showed the Red Crescent and Civil Defense teams driving slowly with their emergency vehicles’ lights flashing, logos visible, as they arrived at the site of an ambulance Israeli forces had already attacked​ https://thecradle.co/articles/video-forces-israel-to-change-story-on-execution-of-palestinian-emergency-workers-in-rafah

    Marine Le Pen’s Fight for 2027 Presidential Election: National Rally Refuses to Back Down​ https://sputnikglobe.com/20250405/national-rally-preparing-to-safeguard-le-pens-path-to-presidency—lawmaker-1121743033.html

    ​ French PM accuses Trump of ‘interference’ on Le Pen
    The US president has urged Paris to “free” the convicted former leader of the right wing National Rally party​ https://swentr.site/news/615285-france-trump-le-pen-meddling/

    ​ Le Pen’s verdict exposes Western Europe’s dangerous trend​
    Yet here lies the paradox: the more the EU establishment struggles to remain in power through repressive measures, the quicker its authority and legitimacy erode. The bloc’s foundational identity rests on liberal democratic ideals, institutional sanctity, and the rule of law. When Brussels arbitrarily removes opposition candidates, it saws off the very branch upon which its entire elite sits.​..
    ​..Attempting to remove right-wing politicians from the playing field is not a solution. Discontented voters will inevitably find alternative ways to express their frustrations – likely even more fiercely once their grievances are compounded by deep mistrust of the political establishment.
    ​ Romania’s recent experience provides a vivid example. After the scandal involving the canceled election, Calin Georgescu’s popularity surged dramatically – from 23% to 40%. Once Georgescu was banned from running, voters swiftly pivoted to another far-right candidate, George-Nicolae Simion, who is now leading the race.​ https://swentr.site/news/615295-le-pens-verdict-exposes-this-trend/

    #185722
    John Day
    Participant

    12,000 Brits arrested per year over social media posts – Times​ The suspects were prosecuted under laws criminalizing “offensive” speech online​ https://swentr.site/news/615320-12000-brits-arrested-social-media-posts/

    Child poverty soars as UK Labour government slashes welfare to fund armed forces​ https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/04/06/tenj-a06.html

    Brits should prepare a 72 hour ‘survival kit’ as Putin plots to sabotage gas pipelines and cause mass blackouts, warn spies​ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14575537/Brits-prepare-72-hour-survival-kit-Putin.html

    ‘Betrayed, That’s The Word’: Small Business Owners Reel as Google AI Destroys Google Search​ https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/betrayed-thats-word-small-business-owners-reel-google-ai-destroys-google-search

    ​The world is very close to reaching the November 2018 global peak production of Crude Oil + Condensates. Will it? Short Term Energy Outlook, March 2025 https://peakoilbarrel.com/2025/03/

    #185723
    John Day
    Participant

    peak oil

    #185724
    John Day
    Participant

    US Crude + Condensates pulled ahead of their November 2018 peak last year and remain ahead of it. January’s US Oil Production Drops Big

    January’s US Oil Production Drops Big


    US crude

    #185725
    John Day
    Participant

    PR Firm Paid Conservative Social Media Influencers to Bash RFK Jr. Plan to Exclude Soda From SNAP​ https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/conservative-social-media-influencers-paid-bash-rfk-jr-snap-plan/

    ​ Baby Dies After Receiving 6 Shots for 12 Vaccines — Doctors Say ‘Catching Up’ Kids on Vaccines Is Common, and Dangerous
    The nurse who administered the shots said 1-year-old Sa’Niya needed them to catch her up on vaccinations she missed at her 6-month appointment — a common but potentially dangerous recommendation.​ https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/baby-sa-niya-death-received-6-shots-12-vaccines/

    ​Peter McCullough MD, How MMR Adverse Events Led to Market Removal in Japan and Change from Mandatory to Elective Childhood Vaccine Schedule
    Japanese Deep Respect for Compound Safety Called for Single Measles Product, No Mandates​ https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/how-mmr-adverse-events-led-to-market

    ​ mRNA Vaccines Linked to Genetic Changes That Can Cause Cancer, Autoimmune Disorders
    A peer-reviewed study by 19 German researchers links the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines to long-term changes in genetic structures that can provoke an inflammatory response, and lead to the onset of cancer and autoimmune disorders.​ https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mrna-vaccines-linked-genetic-changes-cancer-autoimmune-disorders/

    Landmark Cleveland Clinic Study Finds Flu Vaccine Ineffective—And Possibly Harmful—for Working Adults in 2024-2025 Season​ https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/landmark-cleveland-clinic-study-finds-flu-vaccine-ineffectiveand-possibly-harmfulfor-working-adults-in-2024-2025-season-84b3b608

    #185726
    John Day
    Participant

    Follow the Science: Why Peter Marks Was Asked to Leave the FDA
    The irony of these reports is that Marks didn’t resign and is not a vaccine scientist. Dr. Marks was asked to leave and then subsequently wrote that he did not want to become “subservient to [Secretary Kennedy’s] misinformation and lies.”
    ​ Peter Marks is not a hero of the resistance but instead has been subverting the scientific process at FDA for years.
    ​ The media proclamation that Dr. Marks’ is “FDA’s top vaccine scientist” is ironic because he decided to give himself that position. Marks is a physician but has no clinical or scientific training in vaccines or immunology.​ https://realclearwire.com/articles/2025/04/01/follow_the_science_why_peter_marks_was_asked_to_leave_the_fda_1101329.html

    ​ We Can End the Autism Epidemic — By Telling the Truth
    Today, on World Autism Day,​ (April 2)​ let’s honor autistic children and adults everywhere by demanding our federal agencies unlock the four decades of data that hold the secrets to why autism rates are soaring — so we can end the autism epidemic once and for all.​ https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/world-autism-day-end-epidemic-telling-the-truth/

    Ousted FDA vaccine chief makes plea to families to vaccinate children​ https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5233896-peter-marks-fda-resignation-measles-vaccine/

    Digital Despair: How Social Media Fuels Teen Anxiety and Overmedication​ https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/digital-despair-how-social-media-fuels-teen-anxiety-and-overmedication

    ​ What Happens When We Treat Nature as Essential to Mental Health
    A new study shows that fostering nature connection in youth promotes well-being, empathy, and pro-social values.​ https://www.madinamerica.com/2025/04/what-happens-when-we-treat-nature-as-essential-to-mental-health/

    #185727
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @JohnDay

    .. The term “psyops” is being rebranded as “nudging” …

    Having been earlier called lying and originally known as sin.

    #185728
    poppie
    Participant

    Narratives are looking like how many angles can dance on the head of a pin. Times up. Shows over. Everyone out of the pool.

    #185729
    those darned kids
    Participant

    17 months in the brain sure ain’t no deltoid muscle.

    https://makismd.substack.com/p/breaking-news-japanese-researchers

    #185730
    those darned kids
    Participant

    folsom prison blues is unusual in that in is only an eleven bar blues.

    count ’em.

    #185731
    WES
    Participant

    Market Manipulations:

    Today the poor are feeling relatively richer, after the rich 8% who own 92% of stocks lost a few trillions.

    Trump is forcing interest rates lower and trying to force these same 8% into buying more bonds.
    So far, he is succeeding.
    But there is still a long way to go yet.

    #185732
    John Day
    Participant

    “But those people keep on rolling, and that’s what tortures me.”
    ;-}

    #185733
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @WES
    The incredible things about the incredibly shrinking elite buying incredibly shrinking Bonds with incredibly shrinking dollars to save the incredibly shrinking Empire is that eventually everybody realizes that it really and truly is just incredible, and then POOF! It’s all incredibly gone.

    #185734
    WES
    Participant

    US Bonds/Tariffs:

    There is a direct connection between tariffs and longer term US bonds and lower US gov bond interest rates.

    Those countries with trade surppluses will likely have to invest in 10 year or longer term US Treasury bonds in order to get reduced tariffs.

    More bond buyers means lower US gov Interest rates!
    Trump’s “art of the deal”!

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