Debt Rattle February 10 2023

 

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  • #128697
    Afewknowthetruth
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    I think of it this way.

    In the early engagements involving tanks in WW1, the Germans were terrified by the apparently unstoppable metal monsters. However, it turned out that one simple solution was quite effective: dig wider trenches, causing the tanks to become immobilised.

    The response of the users of tanks was for each tank to carry a pack of brushwood – a fascine- that could be dumped into the wider trenches, thereby allowing the tank to cross the trench and proceed with its mission.

    The controllers of Oceania (and western industrial civilisation in general) have the mission of advancing the short-term interests of money-lenders and corporations and all the hangers-on. In order to keep their ‘tank’ moving forward across the obstacles in their path they ‘throw children and babies into the trenches’ and then ‘drive over them’.

    That is exactly what is happening, and that was the exact analogy I presented to New Plymouth Deceit and Crime a decade ago -which they totally ignored, of course, and continued to ‘throw children and babies into the trenches’ in order to facilitate ‘advancement’.

    Since belief in infinite growth [of population, of use of energy, of use of resources, of generation of pollution] on a finite planet is a form of mania, a kind of mental illness, we must expect the controllers and their minions to ‘throw ever greater numbers of children and babies into the trenches’ to facilitate ‘advancement’ and to prop up their inane schemes.

    Isn’t that what we are witnessing? when the Zelensky fascists (under the encouragement and sponsorship of NATOstan government fascists) lower the recruitment age to 16 and prepare to sacrifice the entire country to insane ideology?

    Isn’t that what we are witnessing? when NATOstan governments persist with ‘vaccination’ polices known to harm (and very likely cause premature death) to children and pregnant women!

    Isn’t that exactly what we are witnessing? when NATOstan governments pour hundreds of billions into fake ‘climate’ solutions’ -like carbon trading, electric cars, the hydrogen economy etc.- which are guaranteed to make matters worse and very likely completely destroy the future of most children!

    Isn’t it interesting that the terms fascine and fascist have the same root, and correspond to the Roman symbol for strength via unity, as per a bundle of sticks bound round an axe handle, chosen to represent the strength via unity of government and corporations and the military of 1920s Italy.

    The modern-day fascism that characterises Oceania incorporates additional components of censorship and propaganda -always present, but now more important than ever to the fascists.

    War is Peace.

    Ignorance is Strength.

    Freedom is Slavery.

    Meanwhile, all the real-world factors that the fascist of New Plymouth Deceit and Crime and Hurunui Deceit and Crime and all the other little empires -regulated by the bigger fascists in Wellington and Orcland- have chosen to ignore now demolish their house-of-cards financial and economic arrangements. And ‘throwing more children and babies under the tank tracks’ isn’t going to help, not even in the short term.

    #128698
    jb-hb
    Participant

    PPS Raul, if in any way it is helpful to you to just go ahead and delete all my posts about GPTChat, certainly don’t hesitate, if you want.

    (and I thank you for your forebearance in letting me blather on about it at all! I think AI is something we should be thinking about, as it is probably already driving various events more than we see)

    #128699
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ Raúl Ilargi Meijer

    Re, [email protected]:

    Tell them to follow TAE and they will be able to use our discussions to improve their program to find the truth and be a help to seekers of knowledge

    #128700
    Germ
    Participant

    House passes bill to end COVID vaccine requirement for foreign air travelers

    ” …experts and officials all agree the benefits of vaccination in preventing severe outcomes, including hospitalization and death, outweigh the possible risks. And hundreds of millions of Americans have safely received COVID shots.”

    Oh really – ALL agree?!
    What a hoot. What a madhouse the US is.

    House passes bill to end COVID vaccine requirement for foreign air travelers

    TVASF

    #128701
    zerosum
    Participant

    Guess who ran out of ammunition?
    It’s all the fault of “the west

    https://www.rt.com/russia/571284-zelensky-advisor-ukraine-ammo-shortages/
    Kiev sounds alarm over ammunition
    Top Ukrainian official Igor Zhovkva told Bloomberg the country’s stocks are “almost zero”

    #128702

    if in any way it is helpful to you to just go ahead and delete all my posts about GPTChat

    I never censor anything, and in this case it would be the opposite of helpful to TAE. “Helpful” is that we can discuss things as we see them.

    #128703

    But yes, it has cost us our ad revenue, because for some reason Google thinks it functions as our editor. Etc. etc. But if I cannot say on my own site what I want, what use is it? And, you know, let others say what they want, within ethical limits?! This goes back to Trump, Covid and now Ukraine. People tell us what to think and say. That’s why TAE exists.

    GPTChat isn’t even a thing in that. We have bigger fish to fry.

    #128704
    WES
    Participant

    Copied from zzz111 commenting in ZH. Thought it might be of some interest? I will try to copy an earlier comment by zzz111 but my tablet keeps crashing!

    I”m writing this because I realize that no one else seems to understand it. Someone asked JM why athletes have more problems and she answered that it’s because they use more oxygen. (The graphene oxide researcher said that the graphene moves faster through the bloodstream and t slices the endothelial cells.) Athletes use more oxygen but that doesn’t quite explain it. To me it has been obvious it’s because of more ribosomes. Bodybuilders have a lot of ribosomes because they produce a lot of proteins, so the injected mRNA will more easily find a ribosome and get translated into spike protein. Aerobic athletes also use their muscles a lot and have more muscle breakdown, muscle regeneration, and more ribosomes on the endoplasmic reticulum. So mRNA injected people, it’s probably healthier for them to exercise less or not at all.

    #128705
    WES
    Participant

    Copied from zzz111 commenting on ZH. This comment was made before above comment.

    The mRNA is released into the cell cytoplasm where it goes into a ribosome and through translation of the mRNA codons produces the spike protein. The cell does not need the spike protein so it will lyse it in lysosomes, except the problem might be in many cells that there is too much spike protein, a foreign protein, that is not only not needed and is actually detrimental. The cell is infected with spike proteins, so MHC Class I molecules take pieces of partly lysed spike protein up to the external cell surface and present then to CTL cells which detect the foreign spike protein pices and determine that the cell is infected and must be lysed so CTLs punch holes into the infected cells with perforin proteins and release granzymes which go through the perforin holes and cause apoptosis, and the infected cell is lysed and disintegrates. All the cellular debris now needs to be cleared up from the tissue so other immune cells release cytokines, inflammation is created in the damaged tissue and macrophages move in and eat up the cellular debris. The macrophages may get infected my unlysed spike proteins also. Immune system cells may get infected by the mRNA spike protein also. For many sell types it’s not that crucial because the infected cells get lysed and stem cells produce more cells, but for heart muscle and neurons it’s devastating because no new cells are produced or it may take many years to produce a small fraction of the cells needed. So people get myocarditis and nervous system symptoms.

    Another problem with these injections is that the mRNA production is uncontrolled with respect to time and cellular type. To solve the time problem, the injection could have additionally a protein it with the half life of maybe a few days or a few weeks at most. Let’s say this protein is biotin, and the mRNA is bound to avidin. Since the mRNA is bound to avidin, it can’t go in the ribosome and no spike protein translation takes place but once biotin binds to the avidin-mRNA complex, a conformational change happens and the mRNA is released from the avidin and its codon get translated by the ribosome and spike protein is produced.

    The problem with cellular types where spike protein is produced may also be solved. Normal cells are not endocrine cells so they should not be used for spike protein production. If it is a trans-membrane protein, the spike protein could signal the immune system of its presence but the cell will need to be lysed because it is infected, so myocarditis and CNS ANS..nervous system symptoms. A better way to have the immune system produce an immune response to the spike protein us to have it produced by only endocrine cells. Non-endocrine cells don’t know what to do with the spike protein but endocrine cell can get rid of it by releasing it into the interstitial fluid, extracellular fluid, lymphatic system, circulatory system. You could have a mechanism where the mRNA is bound to a protein and it unbinds only in an endocrine system cell where a particular endogenous endocrine cell protein binds to the mRNA protein an subsequently the free mRNA is released into the cytoplasm and the ribosomes translate it into spike protein. I wouldn’t pick the beta endocrine cells in the isles of Langerhan in the pancreas, but the adrenal glands exocrine cells may not be as bad.

    An easier solution is to have no mRNA injections. Conventional injection with small pieces of the spike protein would stimulate the immune system without all of the problems of the mRNA injections. An even better solution is to have no injections at all. The antibodies produced from injections are probably worse than no good because pathogens mutate and then you are stuck with ineffective antibodies production and no effective or little ab production from immune system detection of actual pathogens. The reliance on antibodies may be misguided. ABs may be effective only in clearing debris after cell lysing such as in myocarditis. AB production takes two weeks to start. The adaptive immune system is kind of late and that is what it may be there for, clearing the infection that the innate immune system has already beaten. The complement system and NK cells function right away and if they are successful there may not be even be a need for ab production.

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    #128706
    WES
    Participant

    Whew! I think I have just succeeded in my first copy and paste operation times 2 inspire of my tablet repeatedly crashing! Nothing good is ever easy!

    I don’t know if zzz111 knows his stuff or not but his comments seem to be a decidedly cut above the average ZH zealot! And this ZH article was supposedly about CBDCs!

    Maybe others can review it for accuracy or punch holes in it.

    #128707
    zerosum
    Participant

    The political liars are asking the biggest liar among them to resign.
    I hope he keeps refusing, since he is a guiding light for us.

    #128708
    zerosum
    Participant

    New wave of Russia strikes.
    The Russians are cheating, Not using boots on the ground.

    #128709
    zerosum
    Participant

    More new to come.
    Footage of an attack by an underwater unmanned vehicle of the RF Armed Forces on the railway bridge in Zatoka in the Odessa region appeared on the network.

    It is difficult to talk about the scale of damage based on the available footage, but, apparently, the bridge supports were damaged.

    This is the only railway bridge leading to the western part of the Odessa region directly through the territory of Ukraine. An alternative shortest route is the road, which runs almost 8 km through the territory of Moldova.

    Previously, Russian troops have repeatedly struck at the object and the very fact of the attack is not something out of the ordinary.

    However, there were no reports of the use of underwater UAVs by the Russian Armed Forces.

    #128710
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Dr D said

    Speaking of Civil War, FBI memo saying all Catholics are White Supremacists. Why not? Everything else is, including all the Black People are. Where did the FBI get that? They get their orders from and obey NGO’s now – political and paid – and cut-pasted the SPLC.

    I would have guessed that most Catholics in the USA are from Mexico, which makes this FBI memo even the more confusing, unless the government is letting the Catholics in over the southern border in order to do something to them in the USA: maybe the FBI plans on vaxxing them. But why call the Mexicans “White Supremecists”, even the SPLC don’t do that and they are certifiable, very strange.

    #128711
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    WES

    That cell biology analysis makes sense.

    That said, other factors unleashed by The Empire of Lies are taking higher priority for me than trying to figure out the mechanism whereby so many jabbed people have had their cell biology messed up.

    I’m not a fan of ‘see what happens’ because in many cases we can accurately predict what will happen. However, in the case of the clot shots, we really don’t know. All we know for certain is that the jabs were fake as far as providing protection was concerned, and for many people the jabs have proven to be deadly.

    But when has The Empire of Lies ever cared about the welfare of the peasants?

    Maybe in the fourteenth century, when too many of them died and the overlords couldn’t get jobs around the estate done. And again, after WW2, for a couple of decades, because they needed peasants to rebuild the Brave New World of alphas, betas, gammas, deltas and epsilons.

    “I’m happy I’m a beta. It’s so much better than being a gamma.”

    #128712
    Oroboros
    Participant

    From Andrei Martyanov

    https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2023/02/a-minute-of-military-porn-for-musk-and.html

    Russia has finally dialed in on Musk’s Starlink System and is going to systematically annihilate it and any Ukronazis trying to use it.

    Anything the Empire of Lies® tries to use against the Russians inevitably turns to shit.

    What a shocker.

    I sincerely hope the Russians actually use a ground based super-laser or EMP directed pulse weapon to turn Musk’s Starlink satellites into Space Junk, not just locating and vaporizing the ground terminals and personnel with them.

    “Elon Musk is a cynical cold-hearted businessman and when he does something it is not out of charity.

    Russia’s Electronic Warfare complex specifically designed equipment for detecting and issuing targeting at Starlink terminals.

    It’s range is 10 kilometers in 180 degrees sector and the accuracy is between 5 and 60 meters (in Russian). And here are the result of the use of this complex since December 2022. “

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    #128713
    Sweet Kenny
    Participant

    Peter Zeihan talks a good game but is basically a shill for the US state. There’s no money in the truth.

    #128714
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Leopard One tanks being ‘refurbished’ by the Eurotardistanis are worst than a joke, they will be flaming coffins with all terrain treads.

    I guess the Russians will just bury the whole Leopard Ones with their fried to a crisp crews where they got smoked and put a little white crosses and lots of plastic flowers (blue & yellow) to mark the spot like those roadside memorials you see all over the highways and byways all across the Empire of Lies®.

    Roadside memorials: Honoring victims of fatal wrecks

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    #128715
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Russia Reportedly Hits Zatoka Bridge In Odessa With Naval Suicide Drone

    Hey, a New Weapon against the Ukronazis!

    Salute!

    #128716
    Oroboros
    Participant

    AFU Driver: “I Bring New Guys In, Half Day Later They’re Already Dead”

    Ukronazi driver runs a Death Uber service

    Peakup Andropoff


    #128717
    Dora
    Participant

    RIM,
    re: Chat mail.
    methinks it’s an attempt to draw you in and “tame” you and this site. My opinion only. cheers.

    #128718
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #128719
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Ándale! Ándale!

    #128720
    WES
    Participant

    Oroboros:

    Your on a roll tonight! A day or so ago I mentioned that locating Skylink routers shouldn’t be too hard since they are constantly sending/receiving data. Well I spoke none too soon! The Russians are targeting the routers!

    Now the Russians are teaching their drones to swim! Must have had another drone take a selfie!

    #128721
    WES
    Participant

    AFKTT:

    Thanks for reviewing the comments by zzz111.

    When I read zzz111’s comments, I thought they made sense but since biology isn’t my strength, I needed second opinions to be sure. These comments were sure out of place at a ZH article on central bank digital currencies. But I will take a germ of knowledge where ever I can find it!

    I wonder what Dr. John Day, Dr. Rich, Doc Robinson, and others, think about it?

    #128722
    WES
    Participant

    Today I drilled and installed 3 taps in the sugar maple tree in my backyard. I am thinking of maybe adding a 4th tap. I probably should have done this back in early February, as I may have already missed a week of sap. We will see.

    Last year I had 3 taps and after boiling down about 30 litres of maple sap, end up with about 2/3rds of a litre for my efforts!

    For me, it gives me something to do and pleasantly pass the time while I wait in my cave for spring and cottage season to arrive. In Canada, maple syrup is the first crop of the year.

    #128723
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Thank you Susmarie108 for “Be Here Now”

    Living in the present and working now to make life better is a positive approach.

    I am coming to the conclusion that we have everything needed within us. After a certain point energy is wasted in thought.

    #128724
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @Susmarie108

    Yes bread was baked here today

    #128725
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @RIM From the AI newsroom page https://openai.com/newsroom/ is the following:

    For press inquiries, please email [email protected].

    OpenAI use their own email domain, yet the email you received is from a Gmail account. I suspect it is a fake.

    #128726
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @Sweet Kenny

    Regarding Peter Zeihan, I bought his book “THE END OF THE WORLD IS JUST THE BEGINNING”

    Whatever happens some people will continue and I felt his book was a positive outlook on the future to come.

    #128728
    jb-hb
    Participant

    OpenAI use their own email domain, yet the email you received is from a Gmail account. I suspect it is a fake.

    yeah, off the main openai website, that checks out

    searching google for the gmail address pulls up

    triple dubya try chat gpt dot kom fwd slash pages fwd slash terms of service (don’t want to make them mad about links)

    but if I click the try gpt or TOS links via the open ai dot com website, it does NOT take me there – bogus website for a bogus email?

    #128729
    those darned kids
    Participant

    dear chatgpt: I don’t wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!

    #128730

    TDK- that was some delicious fried spam, right there. That’ll larn ’em.
    Spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam….
    : )

    #128731
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Red alert. The Russians are coming. And the Chinese. And the North Koreans. Things are getting weird:

    #128743
    aspnaz
    Participant

    zzz111 is full of shit.

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