May 21, 2020 at 11:20 am #59051Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
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Another 2.4 Million Unemployed Last Week: 38 Million Jobless, Nasdaq +35% In COVID AmericaMay 21, 2020 at 1:14 pm #59057
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For most thinking Americans,
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THE RULERS ARE HYPOCRITESMay 21, 2020 at 1:53 pm #59058anticlimacticParticipant
In the UK health professionals expect more deaths from cancer than covid deaths due to lack of treatment.
The lack of routine screening for various ailments will result in thousands of deaths
Lack of surgery and other normal hospital treatments will result in thousands of deaths
It is estimated an additional 1.5 million will die of TB due to interruptions in vaccinations
Just being without a job will result in additional deaths for multiple reasons
There is this bizarre idea that ONLY deaths from C19 matter, even if lockdowns cause more deaths for other reasons. Also, the disease is so widespread that lockdowns can only slow infections, not prevent them. At some point everyone will be exposed to the virus [or may already have been!].
To compare Sweden with ‘lockdown’ countries you need to add deaths caused DUE TO THE LOCKDOWNS.
Thinking about it, this is an example of the ‘trolley problem’!
Why does no-one mention Japan? Like Sweden it has no lockdowns BUT has low infection rates and low death rates. The main difference seems to be that almost everyone wears face masks!
Anecdotal : A friend said someone he knows had an elderly relative taking blood-thinners [Warfarin]. She fell over and was taken to hospital but bled to death. Her death was put down as COVID-19!
My friend said the NHS receives 3,000 GBP for any death in the hospital, but 39,000 GBP IF they die from COVID-19. I had never heard of this so do not know if it true.May 21, 2020 at 2:26 pm #59059John DayParticipant
As we enter the 2 sunniest months of the year, vitamin-D levels will rise for people who let the sun shine on their skin. It’s good to avoid burns, so start modestly, maybe 15 minutes per side, even less if you are very fair and it is midday.How much sun equals 5000 units of vitamin-D? That’s a question that pops up, and it sure depends on a lot of factors of your skin, overcast, sun angle, time of day, how much skin is getting the sun and how long each session. Almost every American or US resident I test is low unless supplementing or working outdoors every day.I have gotten some more vitamin-D vs viral illness articles, some redundant, with links and excerpts, to share around.
Low vitamin D levels could explain why African Americans and even African immigrants in Sweden appear to be disproportionately hard-hit by the coronavirus, regardless of socio-economic factors, researchers have suggested.Vitamin D can protect against getting a severe case of COVID-19, a group of Swedish researchers and doctors have suggested in an article in the medical magazine Läkartidningen.https://lakartidningen.se/opinion/debatt/2020/05/d-vitamin-kan-skydda-mot-svar-infektion-vid-covid-19/ https://sputniknews.com/europe/202005081079239063-cheap-and-harmless-swedish-researchers-assume-vitamin-d-can-protect-against-covid-19/
British Medical Journal, BMJ had this in April, speculating that vitamin-D supplementation “could be a game changer”.
To reduce the risk of infection, it is recommended that people at risk of influenza and/or COVID-19 consider taking 10,000 IU/d of vitamin D3 for a few weeks to rapidly raise 25(OH)D concentrations, followed by 5000 IU/d. The goal should be to raise 25(OH)D concentrations above 40–60 ng/mL (100–150 nmol/L). For treatment of people who become infected with COVID-19, higher vitamin D3 doses might be useful. Randomized controlled trials and large population studies should be conducted to evaluate these recommendations. https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/4/988
The NIH had this out last month, with the same dosing advice:Evidence supporting the role of vitamin D in reducing risk of COVID-19 includes that the outbreak occurred in winter, a time when 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D) concentrations are lowest; that the number of cases in the Southern Hemisphere near the end of summer are low; that vitamin D deficiency has been found to contribute to acute respiratory distress syndrome; and that case-fatality rates increase with age and with chronic disease comorbidity, both of which are associated with lower 25(OH)D concentration. To reduce the risk of infection, it is recommended that people at risk of influenza and/or COVID-19 consider taking 10,000 IU/d of vitamin D3 for a few weeks to rapidly raise 25(OH)D concentrations, followed by 5000 IU/d. The goal should be to raise 25(OH)D concentrations above 40-60 ng/mL (100-150 nmol/L). For treatment of people who become infected with COVID-19, higher vitamin D3 doses might be useful. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32252338/
A researcher from the University of Southeastern Philippines evaluated the vitamin D blood levels of 212 people diagnosed with COVID-19 and found the blood level of vitamin D was lowest in those in critical condition and highest in those with a milder infection. The conclusion of his paper, not peer-reviewed, is that supplements ”could possibly improve clinical outcomes of patients infected with COVID-19.”
[Of the 212 cases of COVID-19, majority had ordinary clinical outcome. Mean serum 25(OH)D level was 23.8 ng/ml. Serum 25(OH)D level was lowest in critical cases, but highest in mild cases. Serum 25(OH)D levels were statistically significant among clinical outcomes. Majority had insufficient Vitamin D status, most of them were not severe. Vitamin D status is significantly associated with clinical outcomes. A multinomial logistic regression analysis reported that for each standard deviation increase in serum 25(OH)D, the odds of having a mild clinical outcome rather than a severe outcome were approximately 7.94 times (OR=0.126, p<0.001) while interestingly, the odds of having a mild clinical outcome rather than a critical outcome were approximately 19.61 times (OR=0.051, p<0.001). The results suggest that an increase in serum 25(OH)D level in the body could either improve clinical outcomes or mitigate worst (severe to critical) outcomes, while a decrease in serum 25(OH)D level in the body could worsen clinical outcomes of COVID-2019 patients.] https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3571484
Researchers from the U.K. evaluated the average vitamin D levels and the number of COVID-19 cases, as well as the death rates, across 20 European countries. Countries with low average vitamin D blood levels in the population had higher numbers of COVID-19 cases and deaths, says study leader Petre Cristian Ilie, MD, PhD, research and innovation director at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital Foundation Trust in King’s Lynn, U.K. https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-21211/v1
Irish researchers analyzed European population studies and vitamin D levels, finding countries with high rates of vitamin D deficiency also had higher death rates from COVID-19. Those researchers asked the government to raise the vitamin D recommendations. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/05/200512134426.htm
This WebMD article has some of the above summaries and links:https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200518/more-vitamin-d-lower-risk-of-severe-covid-19May 21, 2020 at 3:58 pm #59062Maxwell QuestParticipant
I think VietnamVet said it best yesterday: “The US government is dysfunctional.”
I would add to that the term “corrupt”, because they operate in a system of perverse incentives in which public service occupies a position near (or at) the bottom of their list of priorities.
“Don’t Count On Vaccine, US Scientist Warns (G.)”
How did this article get past the censors? Doesn’t this scientist watch the news? That we are looking at the V shaped recovery? That a cure is just around the corner? That he should load up on stocks now and avoid the last minute rush?
“Sweden Had Highest Coronavirus Death Rate Per Capita In Last Week (Tel.)”
I don’t understand why this is a problem. Isn’t it understood that Sweden is taking a different path through this pandemic, the price being to pay with a higher death count up front in order to reach herd immunity quicker and thereby reestablish normal social and business functioning? We should all realize by now that every nation is an experiment in progress, and that the final results cannot be assessed until the pandemic runs its course. Then we will see who was wise and who was foolish.
I still think the HCQ story is a fascinating one, and has the potential of some major public blow-back. From all appearances there appears to be a concerted effort on the part of Big Pharma (and possibly other hidden players) to torpedo its use as a treatment. Fake scientific studies were also rushed into print in order to muddy those waters as well, hoping to put the last nail in the HCQ coffin. But it keeps hanging on, and someone somewhere is going to announce the results of a randomized, double-blind placebo study using HCQ + Zinc, and we will finally find out where the truth lies. That is assuming that Big Pharma doesn’t find out about it first and send in a squad of ‘active shooters’ to destroy it.
“First as Tragedy, Then as Farce: The Collapse of the Sanders Campaign (AA)”
Bernie showed his true colors in 2016. Anyone not paying attention so as to place their hopes and dreams in him for 2020 only has themselves to blame.
“Was there a problem for the banks already when the bailout was given? What will happen when people stop paying their mortgages and car loans? Endless bailouts?”
Short answer: Yes. The precedence is already well established, and the skids were generously greased with the Dodd-Frank Act. It happens to be the easiest way to steal wealth from the greatest amount of people with the least amount of effort (and I might add the least amount of awareness).May 21, 2020 at 4:11 pm #59063Dr. DParticipant
Technically, she DID die of Covid. If not for the lockdown, she could have got some medical care. See? Lemonade! Gettin’ our numbers up. You know, ’cause no one hear you when you say half the people died WITH covid, not OF covid. Blah blah blah, flyover, can’t hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.
Hey, can we give more money to the WHO and Chinese bioweapons labs instead of Michigan dam maintenance? That’d be great.
“A woman was injured by a bison two days after the Yellowstone National Park reopened”
One death is too many! The only solution is to kill all bison and make the world safe. We must win the War on Death and no price is too high. That is today’s logic, right? Zero deaths, zero tolerance, infinite cost?
Bailouts? Sure! That’s the whole POINT of the world’s best-timed crisis. $396B for you, $5,604 Billion for us!
Joke of the Day: What do you call an economist that opens his mouth? A: Wrong.
Speaking of jokes, here’s a guy who killed 10,000 New Yorkers:
Hilarious I know. Imagine what jokes CNN would tell if he had killed 20,000. And that’s not including HCQ that might have been.
And then there was the PA health commissioner that took THEIR mother out of nursing care for her safety, and put YOURS in!
Hahahaha. So funny! Much joke.May 21, 2020 at 4:20 pm #59064Dr. DParticipant
The only thing funnier than that was when we killed 30,000 people a year for 20 years with fake, easily tracked opioids. That was great! We never wanted that to end! And it won’t: still nobody cares, and nobody went to jail! Hahahaha!May 21, 2020 at 4:33 pm #59065John DayParticipant
Can the US pressure Israel to cancel contract with China to manage the Port of Haifa? That would be something new.
“Polite Deflection Will No Longer Cut It” – US Pressures Israel To Sever Economic Ties With China
US Outrages China With $180M Torpedoes-For-Taiwan Deal On Same Day President Sworn In
“Supplying Taiwan with these torpedoes serves the economic and security interests of the United States by helping (Taiwan) modernize its armed forces and maintaining a reliable defense capability.”
Geopolitical strategic weapon…
It may well be the case that the U.S. shale sector has cut over US$50 billion from its planned spending this year, the number of operating rigs has fallen by 40 per cent in the past four weeks, and output has fallen by nearly one million barrels per day (bpd) over the same period. It is equally true, though, that what all these reports overlook is that the shale oil (and gas) sector is too important from a geopolitical and economic perspective to the world standing of the U.S. for it to be allowed to fail, and all other considerations are secondary.
Venezuela To ‘Protect’ 5 Inbound Iranian Tankers With Ships & Planes Military Escort
…we’ve been closely following the saga of Iran’s provocatively sending five fuel-laden tankers to gasoline-starved Venezuela, despite repeat and growing threats of US intervention against the brazen sanctions-busting mission.
And now surely escalating matters from Washington’s point of view, the Maduro government has vowed it will provide navy ships and military aircraft to escort the inbound Iranian fuel tankers.
Pompeo Accuses China Of Helping Iran’s ‘Gas For Gold’ Sanctions-Busting In Venezuela
Currently there are five Iranian-flagged tankers transporting fuel to Venezuela across the Atlantic Ocean, with plans to break the American blockade on the Latin American country. Iran has warned that any US attempt at intercepting its fuel tankers “would have serious repercussions for the Trump administration ahead of the November elections.”
But Washington appears ready to do just that, also as the growing number of Iranian supply flights to Caracas via Iran’s US-sanctioned Mahan Air is gaining attention. To get Venezuela’s derelict refineries up and running to meet domestic gas consumption, vital parts are needed — a role that Tehran has stepped up to fill. But in a new twist to the imminent geopolitical showdown, the US has freshly accused China of being part of the Iranian sanctions-busting scheme in Latin America.
What on Earth Is the US Doing by Bombing Somalia?
The US military is cooking something up that can’t be looked at…
”President Trump has decided to withdraw from another major arms control accord, according to senior administration officials, and will inform Russia on Friday that the United States is pulling out of the Open Skies Treaty,” reports The New York Times.
The post Cold War treaty, initiated in 1992 and then ratified in 2002, allows its now 35 member states to conduct short-notice, unarmed observation flights to monitor other countries’ military operations in mutual verification of arms-control agreements.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-void-open-skies-treaty-russia-fridayMay 21, 2020 at 4:39 pm #59066Mr. HouseParticipant
Yeah i was thinking about the opioid epidemic recently. That couldn’t be used as a cover for financial collapse because using heroin is a choice. And has a long established list of side effects. Better to gin up something that everyone can get, has symptoms all over the spectrum, along with no cure. Has anyone here ever watched Highlander 2? Long story short, the ozone layer is going kaput and conner mccloud creates a shield to keep us all safe. Decades after the shield is put in place they find that the ozone layer has healed itself but the corporation who controls the shield won’t tell the truth because power. Think of the us government like that corporation.May 21, 2020 at 6:48 pm #59067
Nice to learn that getting tested for the coronavirus automatically results in your personal and medical data being entered into police records.
So now you have a police record!
Now you know why the elites are encouraging you to get tested!May 21, 2020 at 6:55 pm #59068
Thanks to Doc Robinson for finding graphs of Ontario’s coronavirus cases and deaths.
No bending of the curve during the lockdown! Just as I suspected!
That is why the politicians are in such a hurry to open things up!
The curves will continue upwards, so the politicians want to get in front of the curve so voters don’t punish the politicians for the lockdown!
Now as the curve continues upwards, the politicians can say that is because they opened up the economy and this was to be expected!May 21, 2020 at 7:02 pm #59069
Based upon my visit for groceries yesterday, I would say less than 50% were wearing masks.
Once inside the store, people were less carefull about social distancing.
Social distancing only applies in line ups to get into the store and at the cashier. In between forget about it!
Following flow direction arrows, forget about it!
That is why Ontario’s lockdown did not work.May 21, 2020 at 7:26 pm #59071
YouTube Censors Video With Medical Doctors Saying Hydroxychloroquine Might Help Treat COVID-19
The video report, presented by Sharyl Attkisson at Full Measure News, examined the possible benefits of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19 and the possible financial interest some parties have in downplaying the drug and promoting a separate treatment called remdesivir.May 21, 2020 at 7:38 pm #59072
Thursday, May 21, 2020
The Pandemic Gives Us Permission To Get What We Always Wanted
Unemployment and the federal stimulus bonus of $600 a week are far more than your regular wages, including tips. Exactly why do you want to go back to your miserable job and low pay? Why wouldn’t you take time off and enjoy life a little, which is what you’ve been wanting to do for years?May 22, 2020 at 3:34 am #59073my parents said knowParticipant
It’s the economy stupid.
I left out the comma on purpose. Better: it’s the stupid economy.
Is there an entity called “us” that exists outside the economy? Like it or not, trade and economic interaction is who we are, all 8 billion of us. It’s what we have in common. It’s what we use to find what else we have in common. We can pretend we exist in altruistic, non-tech commonality, but without the internet (an extraordinary chunk of the economy and increasingly the only entry point many of us have), there is nothing. Boats and horses and paper won’t cut it.
It’s not like I think there’s anything I can say about the economy. It’s being restructured (in frighteningly fascist ways) outside of our beams- all we see is PANDEMIC.
But, Jeeeezuz, we are headed into some pretty scary territory when it comes to debt, currencies, resources, labor, power structures, populations…
But, it’s mushroom season and I haven’t time for a screen. On this point, I know what’s truly important.
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