Debt Rattle November 12 2021

 

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  • #92246
    Veracious Poet
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    #92247
    boscohorowitz
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    “And the fact that you’re living and breathing today
    Means I just might catch it from you in some way.”

    Deep in the dark halls of Fauci Grinch Manor,
    Dr. Seuss came in a Santa Claus manner.
    Leaving a puzzling conundrum or ten,
    Then back up the tall chimney he went.
    Next morning, F. Grinch was bewildered to see
    A list of advice from TAE Summary
    “Stick this up your nose, shove these down your throat
    It’s medicine that hopefully will get your goat
    But not make you sick for although you’re a mean one
    I know a sad soul when I unmask and see one.”
    Signed,
    Not Dr. Seuss (but plays one in a children’s book)

    December 25th looks likely to disappoint at best and torment at worst, so I’ve been jingling Xmas bells and decorating the night since September:

    Natives

    A family tradition, glass marble fruitcake:

    fruit

    Aw, look, a Xmas puppy!

    Calvin and Hobbes

    #92248
    Mister Roboto
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    #92249
    boscohorowitz
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    Fed Appeals Court: I recall how alarmed many of us (at the time) more-or-less leftists were by the number of judges being swapped out by folks like Dubya. Members, many of them in the (I think it’s called) Federalist Society, a confusing name since they leaned toward state rights over federal rights.

    Assuming such judges are behind sane decisions like that reported by M. Roboto, I’d say that the taste of this humble crow pie ain’t bad, not bad at all. 🙂

    #92250
    boscohorowitz
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    Found tangentially while bouncing around M. ROboto’s DIsclos TV post:

    JUST IN – Ex-Barclays CEO Jes Staley exchanged 1,200 emails with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein that included unexplained phrases such as “Snow White” (FT)

    Snow White is a fictional Walt Disney female character and “was 7 years old when the evil queen tried to kill her.”

    Jes Staley has resigned from his position at Barclays earlier this month after a dispute with British financial regulators over how he described his ties with Epstein.

    I’m not at all optimistic, just sleazy enough to quip that maybe we’ll have a Snow White Xmas after all and have some of Moloch’s minions arrested and cuffed. In today’s world, just the online hptoshopped Twitter pics of this would be devastating.

    #92251
    Mister Roboto
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    Assuming such judges are behind sane decisions like that reported by M. Roboto, I’d say that the taste of this humble crow pie ain’t bad, not bad at all.

    Trump appointed an awful lot of judges during his brief tenure, as well, and yes, there was a fair amount of shrieking on the left about that too. And even though Trump’s “Warp Speed” program brought us the Covaxxes, he has always maintained people should have a choice. Damn it, so I guess deflationista is right and I’m pretty much a Trump-supporter. Oh well, I can live with that. Kind of the way I could live with drinking chlorine bleach if the alternative were drinking sulfuric acid.

    #92252
    sumac.carol
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    Maybe I’m not so far from Kunstler, thinking a bit more. While I accept the scientific consensus on the cause of climate change (sorry Bisco, I don’t know enough about sun spots), the consensus response to climate change (totally corrupted by fossil fuel lobby and money politics) is about as bad as it gets, not unlike the consensus response to covid.
    If tptb are willing to let the planet die under climate change (to ensure continued existence of the fossil fuel industry — really???), then vaccinating us all to death is just all in a day’s work.

    #92253
    Mister Roboto
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    To be fair, the “Snow White” in the Disney animated adaptation was certainly no younger than 16 or 17 (probably so that the Handsome Prince wouldn’t come off as a creepy pedo when he woke her from her poisoned coma with a kiss).

    #92254
    boscohorowitz
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    An observation. I am NOT looking for a debate, and I will be the first to say that the following correlations are not particularly strong:

    Claude McKay remarks about mob behavior have been qouted much of late. I note that many believe that upper tier humans, the loftier circles of TPTB, are mysteriously excused from this phenomenon even as we see them walk in opportunistic lockstep over and over. As if beings who’ve proven able to sell their souls repeatedly, lobbyist-cheque by lobbyist-cheque, standing before public mics reciting absurd lie after absurd lie, weren’t functioning as a deluded if not openly hysterical mob.

    I have seen State of the Union addresses, watched partisan sides repeat the same herd stand’n’clap behavior over and over, watch them vote crazy party-line tickets time and again. They’re a more privileged mob with baroque protocols that make them seem orderly and not hysterical, but their collective behavior is nonetheless mob-like: they endorse delusion after delusion, each of them taking turns getting their pork-barrel kicks into the bleeding half-dead body politic that they lynch in every Congressional session.

    It’s funny how as below, so above is often said not to apply to mobs like the polis and mobs like TPTB.

    #92255
    boscohorowitz
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    sumac: the response to climate issues is as nuts as our government’s response to almost everything these days. That is quite separate from the idea that global climate change, anthropogenic or not, is real.

    Our response to a virus consider on a par with a moderately severe strain of the flu (I have an old friend who lost his wife to the 2014 flu; his son lost HIS wife likewise) has been insane from top to bottom, from leaders to the led. Our response to the issues bundled together atop the foundation concept of Peak Oil, is equally insane.

    It would be nice to separate politics from science now and then. Say, Saturday night so we can all get drunk enough to stand the brief separatin of those two incestuous darlings.

    #92256
    Rover
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    One has to remain sober just to keep a wary eye on what was once culturally taboo worldwide albeit perhaps not universal.

    #92257
    ctbarnum
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    “Assuming such judges are behind sane decisions like that reported by M. Roboto, I’d say that the taste of this humble crow pie ain’t bad, not bad at all.”

    While I might not be correct, I’ve been looking at this whole party alignment thing from a slightly different angle. Considering the etymology of right and left leaned toward the alignment during the French Revolution (those who sided with the monarchy sitting on the right, those who sided with the peasants sitting on the left), we can conceiveably view the recent evolution of the Republican and Democratic parties in a different way.

    If we see “King” as pro-authority (government, business, organizational leader, the rich, centralized etc.) as right wing and “Peasant” as left wing (the individual as sovereign, civil liberties, egalitarian, pro-worker, decentralized, etc.) then Democrats (private business can do whatever they want to customers and workers, only approved messaging and dictats are salient, “security” over “liberty”, etc.) begin appearing a lot more “right-wing” and Republicans (vax as choice, no covid passports, no health segregation, anti-globalization via centralized authority, etc) begin appearing more “left wing”.

    Thus, it isn’t we who have changed, but the parties who have switched wings. That said, it has been interesting to see the shift nonetheless.

    #92258
    ctbarnum
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    I forgot to add left (anti-censorship) and right (pro-censorship). And notice the flip again.

    #92259
    chooch
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    Sadly, many churches have become a mirror of the world.

    Food four thought.

    Farming in the world requires the cooperation of four essential elements. A harvest is gathered into the barn only as a result of the natural action of water, earth, wind and light. God’s farming likewise has four elements – faith, hope, love, and knowledge. Faith is our earth, that in which we take root. And hope is the water through which we are nourished. Love is the wind through which we grow. Knowledge, then, is the light through which we ripen. (Gospel of Philip)

    Hope (water) is essential for life, but in and of itself it can become something that we drown in. But combined with a strong faith it becomes solid enough to walk on.

    “For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”

    The orthodox interpretation refers to a group of believers gathered together but the higher sense probably has more to do with farming.

    #92260
    those darned kids
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    ctb: holy moly! in the last election, me an avowed marxist (it’ll work one day! – just remove the humans) voted for right (i guess left, now) wing nutsos, hoping, hoping, hoping this madness would end.

    it hasn’t.

    p.s. i am appalled at the way marxist and communist are bandied about. they call these fascists in washington “communists”. ha!

    p.s.s. i actually believe that communism inevitably devolves into capitalism, albeit a warped form, where whoever can plays the system for their own personal gain, using illegal and corrupt methods.

    p.s.s.s. i actually believe that capitalism inevitably devolves into communism, albeit a warped form, where the monopolies run the government (and not the other way round) and only a select few share the profits, not the workers who actually produce the stuff.

    p.s.s.s.s. humans are nuts.

    p.s.s.s.s.s. i always felt sorry for the professor and mary-anne in the first season. imagine being called “and the rest” when there were just two more to name. talk about being picked last for the game.

    #92261
    phoenixvoice
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    @ TDK
    “ , and then only eat the leaf stem.”
    When I make sauerkraut the stem of the cabbage is chopped and added to the kraut because (so the instructions say) there is a lot of sugar in the stem. Wonder if that is the case for brussel sprouts leaves as well?

    @ Bosco
    reality check…it is difficult (nearly impossible) to get on (and maintain) food stamps, Medicaid, a free Obama phone, etc., while homeless. You have to have a physical address. There must be a street address – not a p o box. The post office will not forward mail from the Family Assistance Administration nor from the state’s Medicaid program — it will get returned. Shortly after the FAA/Medicaid office gets the returned mail, the recipient will be dropped from the program. The recipient bears the obligation to inform the FAA/Medicaid office promptly of all address changes — hard to do when you have no address. Oh, and around here, all of the offices that processed the applications in person have closed — all interviews must be over the phone. When something goes awry and I must contact them I know that I’d better start calling at 7 am, jump through three minutes of hoops, entering data on my phone, only to be told they have no availability and the call terminated. So, I call back over and over again for 10, 15, 30 minutes until I win the “lottery” and can get into the phone queue…where I listen to a crazy Muzak song that never ends (endless deceptive cadences to the vi). I expect the ordeal to take at least 2 hours.
    It is not a cakewalk.
    Oh, and you can only get a smidgen of cash from the government if you are supporting a child (I.e. TANF. I’ve never received TANF.)

    “ Mormon Church leadership toed the line without question”
    Yes…and no. My very devout Mormon parents and sister and her family, as well as my aunt are not vaxxed. They know many, many Mormon others who are not. My parents’ Mormon church has “masks required” signs, but my parents explained their dismay to the stake president who told them not to bother with the masks…so they don’t. My brother and his wife and family are vaxxed, my other sister is vaxxed, not sure where she stands on vaccinating her kids. There are definitely questions about this in Mormondom, whether or not their current prophet is a retired surgeon.

    #92262
    phoenixvoice
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    @ sumac.carol
    “ the consensus response to climate change (totally corrupted by fossil fuel lobby and money politics) is about as bad as it gets, not unlike the consensus response to covid.”

    Bingo…my thinking exactly. All of these wealthy climate aware folks buying Teslas, and me driving a 15 year old car…yes, my car burns gasoline, but it takes a long time to counteract the ill done to the planet by a bright, shiny, new car every 3-5 years, and the devastation caused by the lithium batteries requiring replacement every few years.

    @ ctbarnum
    Yes…kind of strange, the right/left flip thing. As if the poles had suddenly changed.

    @ TDK
    “ p.s.s. i actually believe that communism inevitably devolves into capitalism”

    “Really existing communism” never got to socialism/communism. They got to “state capitalism” where the capitalists are replaced with loyal party members, and devolved from there. For most workers it was a “meet the new boss [comm party member], same as the old boss [private capitalist.]”. However, most of Russia and China were poor peasants when the communist party took over…the majority hadn’t even experienced capitalism, going straight from feudalism to “really existing communism” aka “state capitalism.”

    Regardless, the common thread running through “really existing communism,” the current form of capitalism in Western democracies, fascism, etc., is authoritarian, top-down control. A small group is asserting coercive control over the larger masses. Look, we know this doesn’t usually end well.

    #92263
    those darned kids
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    phoenix: brussels leaves are really, really sweet. the critters try the broccoli, romanesco, and cauliflower, but always back to the sprouts.

    phoenix: “endless deceptive cadences to the vi” hahahahaha, eek! with so many great american composers to choose from, many whose music is public domain, you think they’d use that stuff for free. joplin, gershwin, duke!, ives, barber, copland, mingus..

    copland’s best, in my humble opinion. i saw stanley drucker with the detroit symphony orchestra perform this. wowsers. if you wanna miss bernstein’s intro, skip to the 4 minute mark.

    #92264
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    The more encouraging part of Mr. Roboto’s Disclose Twitter post (Note the reference to Scalia dissent):

    #92265
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Only thing I could find about that Scalia dissent was in “Partisan in the Culture Wars” in PDF form. From a quick Google search on the case number, just replace “homosexuality” with “Unvaccinated”:

    “See id.at 652-53 (Scalia, J.d,i ssenting) (stating,
    How [the legal establishment] feels about homosexuality will be evident to anyone who wishes to
    interview job applicants at virtually any of the Nation’s law schools. The interviewer may refuse to offer a job because the applicant is a Republican; because he is an adulterer, because he went to the wrong prep school or belongs to the wrong country club; because he eats snails; because he is a womanizer, because she wears real-animal fur, or even because he hates the Chicago Cubs. But if the interviewer should wish not to be an associate or partner of an applicant because he disapproves of the applicant’s homosexuality, then he will have violated the pledge which the Association of American Law Schools requires all its member schools to exact from job interviewers: “assurance of the employer’s willingness” to hire homosexuals.)”

    #92266
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    I believe the bold refers to the mask and testing portion of the OSHA “regulation”. But I could be wrong.

    #92275
    Red
    Participant

    The green deal in just a few numbers showing what we’re being sold isn’t really possible. Sound familiar?

    “To replace all UK-based vehicles today with electric vehicles (not including the LGV and HGV fleets), assuming they use the most resource-frugal next-generation NMC 811 batteries, would take 207,900 tonnes cobalt, 264,600 tonnes of lithium carbonate (LCE), at least 7,200 tonnes of neodymium and dysprosium, in addition to 2,362,500 tonnes copper. This represents, just under two times the total annual world cobalt production, nearly the entire world production of neodymium, three quarters the world’s lithium production and at least half of the world’s copper production during 2018. Even ensuring the annual supply of electric vehicles only, from 2035 as pledged, will require the UK to annually import the equivalent of the entire annual cobalt needs of European industry…

    “There are serious implications for the electrical power generation in the UK needed to recharge these vehicles. Using figures published for current EVs (Nissan Leaf, Renault Zoe), driving 252.5 billion miles uses at least 63 TWh of power. This will demand a 20% increase in UK generated electricity.

    “Challenges of using ‘green energy’ to power electric cars: If wind farms are chosen to generate the power for the projected two billion cars at UK average usage, this requires the equivalent of a further years’ worth of total global copper supply and 10 years’ worth of global neodymium and dysprosium production to build the windfarms.”

    Beyond the green false deal

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