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Remember the punch line to that old joke, “ya can’t get there from here.”
We have gotten ourselves onto that dead end road when we were burdened with a debt-money monetary system back in 1913… I needn’t go into any further detail about that with this audience.
And even though I’ve seen increasing references to the pyramid scheme that is our money system, never have I seen enumerated the consequences of such a system… nor will I list them here, ya’ll are surely aware of them.
This knowledge should clarify the actions of our political and monetary authorities. Where there is no solution the law of survival takes over. Those with the ability to steal and the knowledge of our impending collapse are gathering for themselves all they can. Nothing makes sense if you’re still under the delusion that anyone is trying to solve our many problems… they’re not.
It’s every man for himself. Bunkers are being built, redoubts being stocked, armies aligned. Should be quite a show, too bad we’ll be in the middle of it.
Only one quibble with your article – but a major one… may make you reassess your thoughts about evolution.
As odd as it may seem to you, we, the humans, are the purpose of all evolution. The earth as it evolves is for us. The evolution of the plant and animal species is to result in us. And while we may effect our world, we are not the final cause of what may occur. A little more humble, please.
Speaking of religion gets me all fired up… can’t resist speaking my mind on this issue… so here goes.(you may disagree, as this is a topic most seem to believe they have the right belief.. all sewed up, nothin’ further to discuss.) especially fundamentalist of all stripes.
There’s that old saying that human beings didn’t come with an instruction manual. Well, you can put that to rest. In 1955 The Urantia Book was published. Imagine the excitement of those few who had access to the papers from about 1924 to 1955… only on the premises of what was to become the headquarters of the Urantia Foundation, they were not allowed to take them off premise.
The great day came to much excitement when the world could know the truth of our existence, and… nothing. More than 50 years later, still nothing. Only a relative few have read and accepted the truths contained within. But, that’s human beings.
We had the creator of our local universe here on earth in the guise of human form a mere 2000 years ago… and we all know what happened to him. HOWEVER, once you’ve discovered the history of the human race, our seeming failure to perceive truth even when laid out before us becomes easier to understand.
I have coined all so-called religious beliefs in existence before the publishing of this book, Evolutionary Belief Systems – evolutionary BS for short. These differences have caused great destruction in the past; looks like they will continue dividing us in the near future. And while it may take decades or more for this realization, it is literally true that we are all brothers, even in the physical sense; especially so in the spiritual sense.
Someday, 10 or a hundred or more years from now, those who come after us will widely accept the contents of this book. Only then can we call ourselves civilized human beings, for now we are no more than rank savages.
Ah-ha… the favorite refrain of the excitable, “it’s different this time.”
It may be, in the very long time frame, but in my remaining years, not likely. Do you really think you’ve discovered something unique that’s only be going on for the last few years or decades? FOREVER, my friend. FOR – EVER! The only thing different is that the internet affords the excitable an opportunity to display their ignorance.
Y’all may believe whatever you wish, but I’ve seen Barnhardt’s vids and read her comments at her site… and she’s the last person I would ever turn to for ANY advice whatsoever. In my opinion, she’s so hate filled that all that hate has so clouded her judgement as to make her completely insane. In fact, a person unfamiliar with finance and money, just a normal, walking around american, must come to the conclusion, after watching her vids, that this woman has lost her mind.
I think there’s a certain class of people, I call them republicons, who are more effected by right wing paranoia than more balanced people, who, unfortunately I cannot call democrats. I believe balanced, normal minded people are in short supply at this time in history when we need them the most. Our history in this country, to some extent, informs this paranoia, but it’s been more prevalent sine 9/11.
You cannot allow yourself to be influenced by these hate-toids. They are not normal and down that path is misery of mind and desolation.I’m not suggesting a Pollyanna vision, just balance. The world is not black with spots of white, just the opposite.
Couple of phrases come to mind:
pearls before swine, and, when their success depends on not knowing..
Not piggish in the derogatory sense, just limited in understanding. But knowing, that’s a whole different thing.
We, those who’ve learned a few things, believe we’ve discovered something not generally well known… don’t you suppose we’re not the first in history to have discovered things are not what they seem. And while our discovery has put us outside the norm, are we so sure we’re right that we’re willing to risk personal relationships??? Well, I have, and it’s not a good thing. I suppose I’ll be vindicated when TSHTF, but that’s just not enough compensation for me to strain friend and family relationships. Like I said, I have in the past but no more, as you have discovered.
And we may be wrong! As unlikely as it seems, there may be no time when we’ll say “TS done HTF.” I’m sure each reader of TAE would prefer a slow realignment of our civilization rather than an abrupt end of one regime and the beginning of another.
There are more forces at work upon us than we know. My favorite source for truth and understanding makes that clear. So while I prepare for the possible future that we all perceive, my hope that somehow, someway, we’ll muddle through is growing.
Well, Trivium, in the long term, I believe your right… banksters only share as long as they have to, until they’ve consolidated their power, as they have in Europe and the U.S. They’ll use the military and financial power of China as they have used it on US, they’re vampires, it is their way… like the scorpion they’ll kill their host – eventually – and then the new way begins.
It helps, at least for me, to have the end goal in mind when trying to understand the machinations that take place the world over.
As I see it; the U.S. is being eviscerated so that the worlds new policeman, China, will have no opposition when it assumes it’s new role as the world’s only super-power. As the de-facto model of “democracy” on view for the world, our model MUST be DE-legitimized as a form of government. No self-respecting Oligarch wants competition, anywhere, and China’s form of complete control looks just right to said Oligarch. The banksters are on board as they see Asia as the next host for their vampire squids, it is after all, the only place left that can still borrow new money into existence.
Europe, long dead, is being sold off, or set up to be sold off at fire sale prices to the new kings of finance – the Asians. What we see daily is the red herring, the straw man, the stuff that’s supposed to blind you to what’s really going on. It’s the stuff you have to dig for that’s important, if you read it in a convenient, conventional place, it’s merely propaganda.
A thousand years of turmoil, but what’s a 1000 compared to a history of a million.
You’re not taking that bible crap seriously are you? Is this sarcasm, just your way of spiking the punch bowl!!!
Ya’ well, understanding the problem is in short supply.
As I see it: Problems are opportunities to learn, and isn’t that at least one reason we’re here? If our universe overseers actually saw an extinction level event on the horizon, don’t you think they would take action to head off such an event? Since they have not, at least not yet, then they must trust us to solve these many problems on our own.
Killing the bad guys, when the bad guys are so obviously bad, in a one horse town makes for an satisfying movie, but, it’s just a movie, entertainment, not to be taken seriously by serious people. We face an infinitely larger collection of issues, not entirely amenable to simply killing off the “bad guys,” pleasing and rewarding as that may be(and were such a thing possible I would gladly join in the fun of hunting them down and providing them with citizen justice.)
But, that would not “solve” our many issues. Those of us who like to think we actually understand what’s going on are a very tiny minority of our citizens. How will it look to those who just don’t get it? Are you willing to rob them of their chance to learn to recognize the truth of our existence?
Even here, I rarely see mention of the ponzi nature of our monetary system, and, I never see the consequences of a monetary system that is a fraud upon the people. Nor even a hint of the damage to the soul of a system where fraud, abuse of power,theft, murder, etc. are inevitable under a fraudulent monetary system. And, all things evil we see are the result of a monetary system DESIGNED to make slaves of the 99% while enriching the 1/10th of one percent. Simply removing the “evil doers” does nothing to advance civilized society.
I am a relative newcomer to these discussions, but have been following events since my own awakening some 8 years ago. Thankfully, I had many years of reading The Urantia Book to lay the foundation for seeking truthful answers to questions. We are not here to make everything right according to the way we understand things to be for we are most surely wrong. We(all of us) are off on a 1000 year adventure of confronting problems and seeking truthful answers. If you wish to be part of the solutions that eventually emerge, seek to be a better person, one with a sincere desire to live a truth seeking life; it’s the most that each of us can do.
The door to God Consciousness is marked faith.
Of course, facts and truth help one sort out the values one should hold… and since the publication of The Urantia Book it’s sooooo much easier to grasp at faith.
Anyone who has a sincere desire for truth will recognize it when it appears.
Thetrivium4tw has it exactly right.
As I trade to make a living, I still can’t get the timing right. I want to load up on shorts but the threat of QE and more financial/accounting fraud is keeping them small. Looking to sell more after June OptExp.
I also wonder if the people of the US will wake up and stop the capital machine from running the same game on our Asian brothers. They’ve stolen Europe, ravaged the US, and are on their way to sucking the lifeblood out of Asia. It’s a big IF. Can it be done without a bloody revolution. Is the destiny of the US to finally put an end to the Feudal system or will we roll over like Europe.
I dunno. It’s one of the big questions I have. I’d like to see I&S tackle that one.
Lesson’s learned.
1. Governments must not borrow their own money.
2. Sovereign nations must print/spend their own money.
3. Banks cannot be permitted to create money by making loans.However, who would trust our present government, or any government currently in power, to print their own money??? Not any I can see.
The monetary system of a civilization can be used to gauge the level of advancement of any society. Using that measure we are no better than rank savages.
Ok, Steve from Virginia, RE, and others who participate on this board:
I’ve been reading this blog for years and only now want to take part in this discussion… so being new to the discussion I’m not yet familiar with the protocol. I don’t want to seem argumentative but some things I’m reading here are just not true.
Steve, you say that the government prints money, that is just not the way money works. There is no facility for that. The government borrows money, that’s why we have a public debt. While it’s true that the FED only buys previously issued debt, that debt is normally sold to the private sector. While the FED engages in REPO’s and such to adjust the quantity of money, only in QE does the FED buy and hold that debt. That means they create new money. New money is not created when the primary dealers sell that debt into the private capital machine.
What you need to understand is that the debt money system that is OUR monetary system is a ponzi scheme. New money must always be created to pay the interest from previous debt and the only way to get new money, excluding QE, is for consumers to borrow. Of course, when they borrow, more debt is created setting up a cycle of ever more need for more debt to create money to pay the interest…. evermore. IF consumers can no longer borrow money, no new money gets created and we have a recession/depression. That’s the real cause of the so-called financial crisis, consumers maxed out of credit and could no longer borrow. That’s why the FED MUST create new money.
Incidentally, if you’ve ever wondered why we’re now termed consumers rather than citizens, now you know. The consequences of a debt money monetary system are always the same, citizens become consumers and consumers become debt slaves and finally, the slaves revolt.
Steve from Virginia
The world of money does not work the way you’ve imagined. For example, the FED does create money when they QE. Even then, what they buy is interest bearing, and that’s a real problem.
Corporations borrow from banks, no matter whether the source is the money market or what because ONLY banks can create money.
Governments DO NOT print money, there is no method by which they can do so, they borrow money from the capital machine. Doing so creates an interest obligation that falls on the taxpayer.
So much more of what you’ve written is just not so – because your fundamentals are incorrect. A fraudulent monetary system is the heart of the problem and understanding that is key to everything else.
First, you need to define money cause it ain’t what it used to be. In reality, there is no more money… it’s all debt. Every single dollar is not money it’s debt. Banks create debt, not money. Every bit of ‘money’ you have is really debt… if all debts are paid off, then you have nothing because all money is debt.
Banks create debt, governments DO NOT print money (they BORROW money). If only banks create debt, where’s the money? Simple. There is no money.
This, as we all know, will not end well. I have not yet been able to see how this must end, but I will someday see that as well. My initial thought on the matter is that the U.S. will end with a major war – but that is only a result of thinking, not actual understanding.
Our monetary system is a ponzi scheme designed to funnel ALL money to the capital machine. That’s what it’s done since 1913 and they almost have it all. They do have all here in the U.S. and have now set their sites on the far east. Unless they’re stopped, we here will end up on the dung heap of history.
RE, I read thru your comment thinking I was going to see your point, but never did. What is it exactly that your saying?
Have to disagree with you RE. You and I have made the choice, however, are we not still living within the beast, doing all the things those who still sleep do? I know some who’ve made the choice to disconnect from the grid, however, they’re still engaged in life; working, buying, spending, etc.
It’s the SYSTEM. That’s what I meant when said no one has realized the consequences of debt money. Well, some have. Damon has but I’ve not seen that recognition on your web site.
People have emailed Damon asking who are these capital machine masters. He’s explained, it’s really not about individuals, the system is designed to favor a small bunch of people., True, a few have understood the system and take advantage of it, but it’s the system that must be changed. Simply removing these so-called money masters only makes room for those next in line. Change the system and most of the problems resulting from the system get cured.
Also, why are you picking at nits??? when there’s an 800 pound gorilla in the room? I don’t know what Damon or anyone else could do to make it any more clear!!! Focus my friend.
Also, yes El gal, that’s the first of six vids on debunking money. There’s also a seventh, where he explains why he’s undertaking to get this message out. Seems it’s very difficult though to get people to understand the destructive ponzi nature of sovereign debt money.
Those vids you’ve found are excellent, however, I’m speaking of the six he did that explained the monetary system. Those are harder to find. He obviously got too close to the truth… probably laying low. Probably a good idea.
Nice website RE. I’ll visit often. Here’s my thoughts on sovereign debt.
Governments must PRINT their own currency, they must NEVER borrow money. All banks should be government owned. Market interest rates paid to banks become part of the general revenue. Infrastructure projects (roads, bridges, ports, sewage, schools and military) are paid directly with government issued currency. Citizens pay NO income tax, NO property tax, in fact, no tax at all. Citizens who open themselves to even a small tax risk the expansion of that tax to eventually creating a dependency on the taxing authority.
The banksters only source of power is the ability to print money. That must be taken away. The banksters as a class are a cancer on the citizens and their governments. There are no solutions absent the destruction of the entire class of banksters.
It’s obvious that there are centers of power attempting to control world events. However, it’s the Debt-Money System that allows them to maintain that control. In all the post I’ve sprinkled about the internet, not one response has suggested the reader has grasped the consequences of bankster controlled Debt. Until the problem is properly diagnosed, their can be not solution.
I agree Babble, we have not governed ourselves, not for a very long time. Perhaps it’ll take another 1000 years before we’re capable of doing so. It is however a matter of personal and spiritual development. Our founders made a valiant effort to construct a constitutional republic, undermined finally by cabal of wealth who thought they had a better way. Now that system enslaves the people. You’ll have a much better chance of destroying the system than trying to destroy the Oligarchs.
Truth in a land of lies is a threat to the system. Those who speak truth will soon be branded terrorist. It’s going to be a long hard road.
Firstly, Who are they? “They” have variously been described as banksters, elites, money masters, Oligarchs, etc., you have all seen various names applied to those who are supposedly “pulling the strings.”
What if “they” don’t exist??? What if, like ‘terrorist’ they’re a figment of an overly active imagination… a convenient one for governmental leaders but imaginary nonetheless.
I believe this emphasis on a financial cabal is misdirection. I believe “they” don’t exist, just like this supposedly world-wide terrorist plot to destroy the U.S. doesn’t exist. It’s a convenient red herring so I believe it’s given space in our media as it takes the focus off the bumblers in government who couldn’t find their ass with both hands.
The real, and only problem, is our debt monetary system. Damon Vrabel explained it well in his series of videos and they’re worth a look if you can find them. The solution is a whole new monetary system that does not condemn us to debt slavery. However, such a system requires an educated and moral society where laws are not required to compel people to do the right thing. Today’s society does not even know what the right thing is. We will get this new system only when we the people can govern ourselves, something we’ve not been capable of for a couple of centuries.
Everyone’s a critic. Including me.
There is nothing I like about the redesign. Front page way to busy. SIMPLIFY.
