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  • #8581

    ashvin
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    Russell Lee Rice ParadeOctober 1938 “Boys at the National Rice Festival parade. Crowley, Louisiana” Both the mainstream and alternative media spend a
    [See the full post at: Becoming the Bank]

    #1971

    jal
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    #1972

    ashvin
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    jal post=1571 wrote: Blank post.

    jal, you can find the actual article on the front page.

    #1975

    TheTrivium4TW
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    Excellent article Ashvin.

    The crooks really are running the show… and it is even worse… Wachovia launders Sinaloa drug cartel money, The ATF funnels thousands of guns to Sinaloa and the government cuts deals with Sinaloa to bring in tons of cocaine free and clear (while traveling Grannies get stripped searched and a Miss USA contestant gets sexually assaulted).

    And if all that weren’t enough, Big Finance Capital (Owners and controllers of the Federal Reserve the mega banks and the multi-nationals) also owns and controls the mega prisons and they lobby the people they financed into office for draconian drug laws to put their subjects into prison in order to maximize their prison investment. Oh, and they own the hotels right next to the prisons, too, so when you go to visit people busted for using their product, you pay them for the privilege, too.

    And they own the media, so nobody will put this all together…

    And no, I don’t expect anyone to just believe me (I’m not the “news!” -lol-), so here are the references…

    Startpage.com the following titles (links “disappeared” post, my post felt like it had been NDAAed)

    “How a big US bank laundered billions from Mexico’s murderous drug gangs”

    “Documents: Feds allegedly allowed Sinaloa cartel to move cocaine into U.S. for information”

    “Youtube We Tolerate The Cultivation of Opium Poppies”

    “FACTBOX: Some facts about Afghanistan’s opium crop”

    Folks, 90% of the world’s heroin is coming from Afghanistan and it isn’t being transported via mule. Try C-130s or similar.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_C-130_Hercules

    America isn’t running the drugs, the Big Finance Capital (BFC) interests that hijacked America are controlling the drug flow in the hopes of robbing their American subjects (America doesn’t have citizens any more – but I think most know that here), hooking them on drugs and then monetizing them as they enslave them in their prison work brigades.

    Startpage.com the following headlines…

    “Fast and Furious weapons were found in Mexico cartel enforcer’s home”

    “Taxpayers Paid For “Fast And Furious” Plan To Arm The Sinaloa Drug Cartel”

    And nobody gets in trouble EXCEPT…

    The ATF whistle blowers…

    The Wachovia whistle blower who just did his job.

    Folks, we aren’t in Kansas any more. Perhaps we never were.

    And the BFC controlled “media?” Nowhere to be found.

    Corzine was just implicated in criminal theft and perjury, but I doubt there is even an investigation because he’s a BFC oligarch asset.

    America has a classic case of Tyranny.

    The scary part is that these criminals are so confident, they are demolishing the Bill of Rights and flaunting their illegal wars, hatred for democracy (Greece – unelected criminal bankster suspending elections) and their mountain of criminal acts including bribery (Jefferson County), drug money laundering, and Corzine robbing $1.6 billion and lying under oath to cover it up.

    An O’Reilly and Obama both shilling for their masters and saying no crimes were committed…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wsxXYDcHiE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUBUw3e2Gk4&t=0m8s

    Note that O’Reilly never invites Bill Black or Karl Denninger on his show… and Obama says “some” of the acts weren’t illegal, but fails to mention that the criminal acts he admits to (some is not all) won’t be prosecuted… nor does Obama mention that there is not a single “or else” penalty in FinReg (per Denninger’s reading – I haven’t read it) – so they could all break every “law” in FinReg 1,000,000 times each AND NOTHING HAPPENS.

    Just like the Fed has broken Section 2A of the Federal Reserve Act for 25 years running and NOTHING HAPPENS (and not 1 in 100 even know what its TRUE mandate is since the Fed and the media lie about it).

    Even though Alan Greenspan openly admits the criminal fraud and the it was admitted to under oath by Citibank’s chief underwriter…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM1wRcr7XeY

    It’s a cesspool.

    #1976

    Fun. A topic with all Blank Posts. This is getting old.

    Anyhow, this is nothing new. Did Al Capone go to jail for any of the inumerable murders he was responsible for? Hell No. He went to Jail for Tax Evasion. That only because he wasn’t an insider on the system. In his immortal words, “Capitalism is the Legitimate Racket of the Ruling Class”.

    RE

    #1978

    ashvin
    Participant

    TheTrivium4TW,

    Did you try to post an image in your post? If so, that’s why it didn’t show up. If not, we will look into what else could be going on.

    Please, people, just refrain from posting images for the time being…

    RE – You’re right, it’s nothing new, but it’s much more deeply ingrained and just as under-emphasized as it ever was.

    #1979

    ashvin post=1578 wrote:

    RE – You’re right, it’s nothing new, but it’s much more deeply ingrained and just as under-emphasized as it ever was.

    Agreed, which is why we need a wholesale overhaul of the legal system and should scrap English Common Law for the Law of the Inquisition. Let’s face it here, the legal system as it exists is a wholesale failure insofar as dispensing Justice is concerned. We don’t need Perp Walks and Fines for Banksters, it does nothing to fix the problem. What we need is Torture and an excruciatingly Slow Trip into the Great Beyond. You know, something that would make Lloyd Blankfein really think twice before he empties the Pensions of 10,000 Widows and cuts the SNAP Card allowance of 10,000 Orphans.

    I go on Record as being in favor of only LEGAL means of Retribution for Crimes Against Humanity. I just think we need an Upgrade of the Legal System here to account for some exceedingly EVIL VERMIN scurrying about our society at the moment. Public Executions of Banksters would be a good start here.

    RE
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    #1984

    pipefit
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    “Sometimes, there is almost a distracting quality to these discussions, [about banks]…”

    Agreed. Part of the problem is the scale. Most people cannot really understand the concept of a billion dollars. $50 thou a year for 20 years is a million dollars, so the average person can understand a ‘million’ dollars. But 1000 times as much, a ‘billion’? Doubt it.

    And now we are into trillions, which is a million times a million. If Ben Bernanke said tomorrow that he would write a check for $100 trillion, to pay off the national debt, plus fund all the unfunded liabilities of social security, medicare, etc., the average person would think, “yeah, good idea, write that check, why the heck not.”

    Obviously, since us serious types are hoping for an orderly unwinding of this world order ponzi scheme, often referred to as ‘post Bretton-Woods’ financial regime, we’re hoping he doesn’t write that check just yet. What is frustrating is that there doesn’t appear to be any progress on an alternate course of action.

    #1986

    pipefit wrote: If Ben Bernanke said tomorrow that he would write a check for $100 trillion, to pay off the national debt, plus fund all the unfunded liabilities of social security, medicare, etc., the average person would think, “yeah, good idea, write that check, why the heck not.”

    If he could in fact do that, it might not be such a bad idea, but he cannot do that, at least not under the rules of double-entry bookkeeping Da Fed works under. If HB created $100T in FRNS, he would simulataneously create another $100T Liability on the Balance sheet of Da Fed. There is no way for him to create $100T in notes without creating such a Liability. HB cannot pay off any old debt, all he can do is Roll It Over into new debt.

    The debt cannot be paid off through the issuance of new debt, its impossible. Creation of non-debt money is not within the purview of Da Fed to do, only Treasury could do that, and then only in Theory really. To Naked Print $100T is simply an elimantion of the value structure of interest through the system. It would destroy the value of the currency done in those kind of numbers. Its not a choice Helicopter Ben really has here at the moment.

    RE

    #1991

    Glennda
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    Ash said
    “The large banks are the untouchable source of funds behind almost every illegal (yet highly profitable) industry throughout the world, as well as activities that are technically legal, but still very destructive to society.”

    Ash – I think El G had it right about the TBTF banks, they are untouchable; they are Too-Big-To-Jail.

    RE said
    “We don’t need Perp Walks and Fines for Banksters, it does nothing to fix the problem. What we need is Torture and an excruciatingly Slow Trip into the Great Beyond.”

    RE – You would like the idea of the death penalty for corporate persons. In this plan a corporation could be held in limbo by the govt and any money it made collected by the govt, for lesser crimes. I guess being Nationalized would be the death penalty. If they are people, they should be allowed to pay the ultimate penalty. Though I suppose we could allow for some waterboarding, if you insist.

    Perhaps the best we can hope for is – if people get too angry at the Banks, it might be expedient for a political figure like the president to throw a Bankster to the wolves as a sop to OWS and Tea Party.

    But what would signal that point? What would constitute “too angry”?

    #1997

    TheTrivium4TW
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    Glennda post=1591 wrote: Perhaps the best we can hope for is – if people get too angry at the Banks, it might be expedient for a political figure like the president to throw a Bankster to the wolves as a sop to OWS and Tea Party.

    Hi Glennda, I’m getting a vibe that they simply have no respect for their subjects any more so they will continue to commit crimes and won’t even bother to pretend any more.

    They are out saying they are using electronics to spy on people, that they want to make infanticide “liberal” and demonize anyone who thinks that is outrageous… They bribe, they rob, they put derivatives ahead of FDIC depositors… BofA goes, they get all the money first now…

    These people have “flown the coup,” as it were and the populace turned subjects are just emotionally incapable of admitting the obvious at this point…

    We are entering a very dangerous time and our only hope is a hopelessly apathetic populace. In general, of course – lots of people are waking up every day… and that’s a good sign, but it is also why the criminals enact more criminal “law” and commit more crimes in an effort to deal with their true political opponents – those who see the entire system as a cesspool of Big Finance Capital corruption.

    #1998

    scandia
    Participant

    Ash,Just this week friends and I have been discussing war and armament manufacturing…No public discourse mind. Just private chat.
    I was wondering how many people are employed making instruments of death, how many towns would be bankrupt without these industries? Does anyone know what percentage of Cdn GDP depends on weapons manufacturing,even lowly items such as bullet proof vests? Never mind old fashioned vests. One can now buy a well tailored bullet proof sports jacket or suit.And are the workers at these sites even bothered ? Just glad to have a job I expect. Proud to be serving their country, proud to have earned security clearance…And what about the ” women and children “? How many of them now work in these industries? Equal opportunity legislation in play ( snarc on ).
    I think it was Voltaire who said behind every great fortune there is a crime. We could say behind every successful economy there is war.

    #1999

    Golden Oxen
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    @”Public execution of the banksters.” How about bringing back the ever popular Guillotine, with a large steel replica of a credit card for a blade; and a bucket full of foreclosure notices for the gentlemen to peruse as they prepare for the blades descent?

    #2004

    ashvin
    Participant

    Reverse Engineer post=1579 wrote: I go on Record as being in favor of only LEGAL means of Retribution for Crimes Against Humanity. I just think we need an Upgrade of the Legal System here to account for some exceedingly EVIL VERMIN scurrying about our society at the moment. Public Executions of Banksters would be a good start here.

    OK, but are we drawing the line at BoD, CEOs, CFOs, the 23yr old quant trader, where? And do we have to actually prove that they were intentionally involved in these horrendous practices, beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law? I imagine we are going to have to make some fundamental exceptions to Constitutional protections in order to get that result, at least anytime in the near future. We could try to update the entire thing and make it easier for banksters to flow through the system and into the guillotine, but that’s bound to have some unintended consequences – ones that I’m not sure I’d want to live with.

    #2040

    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    ashvin post=1604 wrote:
    OK, but are we drawing the line at BoD, CEOs, CFOs, the 23yr old quant trader, where?

    Therein lies the rub, nobody cares where we draw the line.

    Heck, we can’t even keep our liberties safe from these rogue criminals, let alone punish them in any way whatsoever.

    100 year on and Debt Dollar Tyranny is still asset stripping our society and pushing all the power into the hands of the criminal asset strippers.

    #2089

    alfbell
    Member

    I think we need to respond to the big banking institutions the same way that we do with government people and institutions.

    Do you really think that pulling your money out of the bank and putting it into a local credit union or some such is going to effect these people and their plans?

    We are in FASCISM now and the banks, big corporations and government have all joined forces and become one to some degree.

    The US government, Congress, The Federal Reserve, etc. are all totally locked into their memes (false data, false ideologies, unworkable or inapplicable policies, etc.).

    The hubris, stubborness, self-interests, hidden agendas and “need to be right” will prevent any change from ever occurring.

    The only way for there to be a chance for reform is when our “leaders” finally run us into an unsolveable crisis socially, fiscally, or monetarily (and of course all of these collapses are on the horizon).

    So the best strategy to follow in my opinion is to not waste your time with “how things should be” or “how can we fix this”, etc. because we are on a runaway train that won’t stop until it hits a wall.

    The strategy is to understand these government leaders and institutions to the best of your ability. Be alert to every change and policy action they make and then quickly decide how you can use it to your advantage or how you can avoid the consequences of it. Follow very carefully what the goverment is doing and act accordingly to protect yourself.

    This is no way for a citizen to have to live but for now it is the only way to have a chance of surviving or thriving.

    Let’s just hope that after the collapse that it is a benevolent person or group that steps in to pick up the pieces and not another Adolf.

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    boko
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