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    Dirk de Herder Amstel Bridge, Amsterdam 1946   • Biden Declares Russia Threat ‘National Emergency’ (Fox) • Kremlin Pledges To Respond In Kind To
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 16 2021]

    #73264
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    I certainly find the Biden Administration’s ramping up of Cold War 2.0 disturbing, not that it’s entirely surprising.

    #73266
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    I would also point out that a national emergency is something you declare over pandemics, states being on fire, and natural disasters, not the latest round of escalating geo-political tensions.

    #73267
    Dr. D
    Participant

    And that was the end of the Squad.

    five

    Have heard that Russia said to Joe if they put a ship in the Black Sea, they will sink them. Period. That’s your only warning. And good for them. Is that a threat? Well they turned the US Cook into a floating can, and flew over it for target practice, so no. Beautiful to watch them belligerent, then instantly backing down, cowards, losing. That’s how your Suez Canal moment happens. Suddenly! Sniffin’ Joe wants to talk! Hires Trump’s ambassador! I guess Joe’s a Putin puppet now. RussiaRussiaRussia.

    Okay, NEXT thing that happens, the U.S. is so hollow it’s exclusively backed by murder. U.S. bullets are useless, they withdraw = U.S. is useless country = US$ is useless currency. Bye bye nice man. Glad you’re sitting on the powder keg when it went off. The truth that we’re nobodies with no power appears.

    “OPCW Chief … is destroying the OPCW…”

    Yay! Truth appears. CNN truth appears. Lies about election and voting appears. Lies about Hunter appears. Lies about GameStop appears. If only collectively the nation had two brain cells to comprehend it.

    “The West’s Sole Prerogative Is Russia Has No Right to Self-Defense (Kovalik)”

    Yes, but this is all authoritarians, narcissistic sociopaths. You can riot and beat, burn, and murder anyone in the streets. However, you can NOT retreat to your house and defend your life. If criminals reach for a gun while serving a warrant for violent armed robbery and beating women for a mere $800, you can NOT stop them. You’re supposed to just let them shoot you and drive away. No different with Russia. Defending yourself is violence and aggression. The world is supposed to sit around passively while I rape, burn, and murder it. That’s my socialist utopia. As Tlaib says, “no police, no prisons, no military.” “”Every city. Every town. Burn the precincts to the ground,” protesters chanted.

    Hmmm. I’m confused. What is it they want? Peace, I think. And Love. What are they doing lighting the ICE facility on fire last week with all the immigrants alive inside? It’s the utopian vision of criminals and warlords, the strong take from the weak. Social Darwinism, Bellum omnium contra omnes. The strong (or who are so incredibly stupid they actuallythink they’re strong) always want this, because it favors them. That’s why they’re against all free speech, due process, and self-defense. So how did Germany fall for it? Let’s ask the other way: how do you NOT fall for it? What would you establish as an inalienable human right to prevent it?

    You have the unmitigated right to assembly, to beliefs, to speech, the right to own arms, military-grade hardware for self-defense against government. You know who is who by which side wears black, divides by race, censors speech, confiscates weapons, and burns books in the street. Which side targets black neighborhoods and businesses and burns them down while buying $5M in houses in ritzy white zip codes. It’s super-easy. How would you best have STOPPED Germany internally and enforced the Roses, the resistance? Just like that. So who are the good guys? The guys who remove your self-defense and burn books in the streets, or the guys who beg you to arm and prepare yourself and LET everyone speak? (However dumb you may be)

    This ain’t rocket science. Thankfully so, since we don’t seem to be able to comprehend Oppression ≠ Peace and Love. Ignorance ≠ Strength. 99.997% safe ≠ world ending pandemic with 25M dead. Still waiting.

    Russia no right to self-determination or self-defense? Yeah and not one of the rest of us either.

    “US Intel Walks Back Claim Russians Put Bounties on American Troops (DB)”

    Hey was that and everything else the media has ever published a lie? You have no right to self-defense in the media, with libel and character assassination. As shown so clearly with CNN and Veritas yesterday. …Who was immediately banned and removed from Twitter, with libel and character assassination. Huh.

    “Update: Master List Of Official Russia Claims That Proved To Be Bogus (Taibbi)”

    It would be shorter to list the 10 stories that WEREN’T false. Taibbi and Greenwald published the Top 10 List of Shame only last year. No one cares. The liars are adored, referred to, and considered eminently credible. They are defenders of our religion and patrons of our god, the god of lies.

    “SecDef Austin Hints at Continued US Military Involvement in Afghanistan (AW)”

    Taliban said they’d attack the s—t out of America for being the lying, cheating, treaty-breaking Anglos that always, always, A L W A Y S break E V E R Y treaty. Every single one. Ask any Indian. …So it’s going really well. More people die, more money is spent, more profits made. Gooooo Joe! Killin’ some brown folks. Just like his boss Obama.

    Vertias suing Twitter? They’ll just say it’s a “glitch”. One they have 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Nobody goes to jail. Make me. I have a government-created, government-enforced monopoly, where the government controls and erases the means of free speech.

    “Smartest species ever.”

    Our species refused to do this for 100,000 years until Babylon was founded. Then that only happened there, no where else. Didn’t happen in places in North America until 1901. In Kalihari until 1951. Somehow, some way, it’s only when the elites use blowing up your children to enforce financial slavery, somehow only THEN, does our “species” see the light about cutting every tree and killing every bug. But I’m sure it’s the fault of humans with no power and no access, not wealthy billionaires in London. Nope. We must, must listen to those billionaires and the proxies they hire and install in the U.N. and WEF because they know! They’re here to help!

    Hey, who put plastics everywhere? Who’s unemploying everyone and putting robots everywhere now, AGAIN against the express will of the people over 50 years? Must be us poor, desperate, rural folks. White people, I guess, apparently no in China or India has ever extracted colonially or destroyed their ecosystem before. Yup. That’s the story, and I read it in CNN so it must be true.

    #73269
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    My big takeaway of 2020 is that the age of rational responses is over. From now on, it’s all irrationality, propaganda, and falsehood all the time. And what’s the most irrational thing we could possibly do? Why, nuclear war, of course. So if that’s what we have to do in order to be truly irrational, then by gum and by golly, that’s exactly what we’ll do, and there will be no stopping it!

    #73270
    Dr P
    Participant

    You seem like a smart guy, I read your posts everyday, but your ability to be conned by the climatards and eco-loons is somewhat a disservice to your readers that actually can think by themselves.

    #73271
    zerosum
    Participant

    Why has the USA become a war zone

    Police: 8 dead in shooting at FedEx facility in Indianapolis


    Police: 8 dead in shooting at FedEx facility in Indianapolis
    Apr 16, 2021
    ———–
    The experts forgot to evaluate why the USA is an active war zone.
    assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20613962/ata2021unclassifiedreport.pdf
    —–
    What do people do when they are in pain?
    Take pain killers to kill the pain.
    Kinds of pain killers are guns and opioids.

    http://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/mexicos-long-war-drugs-crime-and-cartels
    Mexico’s Long War: Drugs, Crime, and the Cartels
    Violence continues to rage in Mexico more than a decade after former President Felipe Calderon launched a crackdown on drug cartels.

    WRITTEN BY
    CFR.org Editors
    UPDATED
    Last updated February 26, 2021

    —–
    “The only thing the Russia sanctions have accomplished is they made Russia stronger, self-sufficient.”
    ———
    You still don’t believe, even after hearing it for 4 years,
    “fake news”
    “misinformation.”
    “Your enemies”
    ——
    Can you pick who are The good guys and The bad guys?
    humans with no power and no access, or wealthy billionaires and the proxies they hire and install
    ———

    #73275
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Expire-denied

    #73276
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Kunstler today:

    “China is surely making hegemonic moves all over the place, not just around Hong Kong and Taiwan but in Africa and South America, while it strives to build the world’s largest navy, exports gain-of-function viruses, replaces the US in space exploration, and excels at weaponizing computer science. China’s weaknesses are a lack of sufficient domestic oil supply and food, which its current moves aim to correct. It was on its way to turning the US into a raw materials and food-crop colony when Mr. Trump came along and tried to put a stop to that.”

    #73278
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    It is quite incredible to me that, nearly 60 years later, with the USSR itself having fallen in the meantime, these words still ring true in the West today.

    We’ve lived in a far more totalitarian society than most of us seem willing to even consider. We were the winning fascist nation in WWII, while Russia, the major combatant victor of the deal, was the reigning communist nation. The fact of lockdowns and the smell of imminent Orwellian modes tends to obscure the primary aspect of all this: a population raised on totalitarian fascism disguised as free market capitalist democracy. It was fun for some of us for awhile. Not any more.

    ^&*

    @ Dr. D

    “You seem like a smart guy, I read your posts everyday, but your ability to be conned by the climatards and eco-loons is somewhat a disservice to your readers that actually can think by themselves.”

    The “smart guy” might want to know to whom you refer. You know, like using their name? It’s what smart people do when they want the object of their criticism to understand your criticism.

    %^&

    @ Raul

    “So far, all the e-currencies look like feeble attemps at suppressing bitcoin. The problem: central banks want full control.”

    Which puts China in the catbird seat, since China is the biggest central-everything nation on earth. I doubt the digi-yuan will be stable for all that long, but for awhile it may be the major reserve currency of humanity’s failing globalism.

    #73279
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ Dr. D (again, sigh)

    “What are they doing lighting the ICE facility on fire last week with all the immigrants alive inside? ”

    They set fires outside the building (in Portland, OR, btw) It’s an important distinction, this inside/outside a given structure thingie. By the way, the building is still closed, and that’s a good thing. Also, btw, those people were demonstrating an answer to this question: “What would you establish as an inalienable human right to prevent it?” They were adamantly and forcefully demonstrating that “… (they) have the unmitigated right to assembly, to beliefs, to speech, the right to own arms, military-grade hardware for self-defense against government.”

    The fact that they are silly enough to be associated more with one duopoly party rather than the other horn of that dilemma, is a matter of preference in political silliness, but the fact is that these people are doing the things you espouse and apparently cherish.

    I ask: why do we expect people, who tolerate in their name and on their dollar the kind of violence our government has purveyed so abundandly for such inexcusable reasons, to act differently when they decide to take the law(lessness) into their own hands?

    And why, on God’s good green earth, would you encourage partisan division amid emerging civil war?

    I suppose the answer is that almost everyonre I’ve known wants to be on a team and believe that their team is the good team whose goodness is typically defined by not being the other team, a principle we recently saw run wild with Anyone But Trump-ism but is as old as America: Love It Or Leave It.

    #73280

    “So far, all the e-currencies look like feeble attempts at suppressing bitcoin. The problem: central banks want full control.”

    Which puts China in the catbird seat, since China is the biggest central-everything nation on earth. I doubt the digi-yuan will be stable for all that long, but for awhile it may be the major reserve currency of humanity’s failing globalism.

    Nobody wants the yuan, so why would they want the e-yuan? Where’s the catbird seat in there for China? The yuan will never be a reserve currency until and unless the CCP cedes control to the market, which they won’t. It’s at 2% now , vs 60% for the USD?! The FX market trades trillions per day, and they won’t let Xi’s moodswings, which could decrease their holdings by 50% or so in an instant, disrupt that. They’ll just move to another currency. In fact, they already have. That is the problem with the yuan.

    #73284
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Dear CNN TV channel and its staff. We realize that you have no time for fact-checking, since you’re so immersed in ideological struggle for the triumph of liberalism,” she wrote in a Facebook post. “But to present Ukrainian tanks at a Ukrainian train station, with Ukrainian train carriages in the background, as Russia’s preparations for war is a bit too much.”

    CNN Raises Eyebrows After Using Images of Ukrainian Tanks While Bashing Russia’s ‘War Preparations’

    %^&

    @ Raul

    “Nobody wants the yuan, so why would they want the e-yuan? Where’s the catbird seat in there for China? The yuan will never be a reserve currency until and unless the CCP cedes control to the market, which they won’t. ”

    So much for the power of central bankls then?

    I say that as screwed as China’s currency is, as blindly nosy as is the CCP, CHina has the essential centralized muscle to pull off something that wants most of all, solidarity and consistenmcy within itself. Same reason why China could do lockdowns so quickly, extremely, and peacefully: they’re a full-blown totalitarian government with only a few decades of pretending otherwise (Tienemman Square which I’ll never learn how to spell).

    A currency as primary legal tender is as lockdown as you get.

    As for what the other nations will or won’t want: when the US$ crashes, which is SOOOO imminent, they’ll want SOMETHING. Russia doesn’t want the job except as a partnership deal more or less vis a vis Silk Road and related material transfer systems.

    It seems likely that someone will stanbd out from the crowd, and no one else is standing up to take the ball. Maybe we’ll let Switzerland do it. It has the brand name reputation (even though it trashed that rep). Who knows? But someone will take the lead. The nations will hardly agree on a fair and egalitarian basis, which is why we have Darwinian markets as our best approximation of economic justice. Lacking such agreement, someone will of course take the lead, be the emerging currency hegemon. I see China as having the necessary “infrastructure” to do this.

    I don’t see the ‘catbird seatr’ as more than temporarily advantageous to China, which has to go through another revolution before attaining a cnfiguration moe stable than not.

    As a summary lens, I’ll say that when things change, things change. Today, no one wants the yuan. But the global structure that makes this so is about to implode. China sits on the largest manufacturing complex on the planet and has strategically partnered, mostly positively, with its neighbors and regional powerhouses especially russia which has the energy China needs to remain the global factory for awhile yet.

    Gold is a handy security blanket but is no solution; if this weren’t so, we’d still be on the gold standard. Oil is the de facto gold with manufacturing the de facto silver and technological prowess being platinum. These are the things that will provide trustworthy reliability in any global (or even local, for that matter) reserve currency of the future. China has those in spades plus, has a central bank not entirely the property of legally enshrined white collar crooks but instead forcefully maintained political gangsters. Force is a factor currently on the extreme rise and a major decider in whose currency will be the reserve currency. After all, force is what has kept the US$’s reserve status even though it basically defaulted in 1971. If not for major intervention on our part, the reserve currency might have become the “OPEC” or something like that.

    In revolutiuonary cusps, the past’s shadow on the future gets skewed and becomes mostly distortive rather than instructive. The fact that nobody wants today the yuan of the global factory is unnatural, a relic of “the American century”. I suspect this will change when the American century is officially over.

    #73285
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    P.S. “There remains robust demand for U.S. Treasury securities at every auction, and approximately 40% of the world’s debt is denominated in U.S. dollars,” Karolyi said. “It is hard to see this reserve status being unseated as long as the size and core engine of the U.S. economy remains strong and the dominance of U.S. financial markets in the global system continues.” some dumb 2-5-2021 Newsweek article, itals mine The US economy is dying along with its financial markets. Globally, this is common knowledge, jah?

    #73286
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    ‘CHina has the essential centralized muscle to pull off something that currency wants most of all’ typo fix

    #73287
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #73288
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    ‘cnfiguration moe’

    Time to clean the keyboard. THe parrot is a messy eater and my keyboard is suffering advanced blueberry pulp impaction.

    #73289
    Germ
    Participant

    This is huuuge:

    https://www.yahoo.com/now/exclusive-china-opens-borders-multi-095540747.html

    A people with a five thousand year history stock-piling money with a five thousand year history!
    They are so smart.

    #73290
    Dr. D
    Participant

    It’s pretty clear: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” That’s a contract we all signed.

    Do you see the word “Peaceable” there? That’s how it’s distinguished from destruction of property and harm to people. Do I expect with an example of a perpetually violent government for the people to be peaceable? No, but I can’t condone it either. You also leave the moral high ground and lose.

    I can be partisan, but you’ve got the wrong teams: one is for human rights, generally as written in our Constitution and Bill of Rights, and a team that is against law, order, and human rights. That the government and its representatives are generally 80% against all human rights is well-established, and we’ve been using the name “RINO” for 30 years now. As in “fake,” “fraud,” “phony”: “traitor”. That means we don’t trust said government or representatives and wish to furiously de-power them as much as is humanly possible, as was written in that contract with the people lo these many years ago. When I see Liberals go classic and want people to be left alone, the government reduced and not involved with people so they can properly express their diversity, I’ll join them.

    #73291
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “I just did what I do best. I took your little plan and I turned it on itself. Look what I did to this city with a few drums of gas and a couple of bullets. Hmmm? You know… You know what I’ve noticed? Nobody panics when things go “according to plan.” Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it’s all “part of the plan”. But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds. Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I’m an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It’s fair!”

    #73292
    Mr. House
    Participant

    BLM is a part of the “plan”! Protestors at capital hill, not so much. You can tell what is a part of the “plan” and what isn’t based on how the “authorities” react to it. Protesting social causes, part of the plan. Protesting nose diving standards of living, not so much. Protesting social justice during a pandemic, part of the “plan”. Protesting lockdowns during same pandemic, not so much. Protesting against voter ids, part of the “plan”. Protesting for voter ids, not so much.

    #73293
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Remember another scene in that movie, where the joker has two boats full of people. One with “normal” people and another with convicts? Both given means to blow up each other, with the game being one must blow up the other or both blow up? The movie shows us that neither destroys the other, but do we really believe that? Look how quickly people turned on each other during covid?

    #73294
    Germ
    Participant

    What parent would give their child over to Pfizer?
    Beyond sad.

    Stanford begins testing Pfizer vaccine in babies and young children

    #73295
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ Dr. D

    “Do you see the word “Peaceable” there? That’s how it’s distinguished from destruction of property and harm to people. ”

    You do know what the bearing of arms is for? Taking the law into one’s own hands. If one supports the 2nd Amendment in a political sense, yea, even that militia jive language they threw in there, one supports armed insurrection.

    For better or worse, that’s what the BLM stuff is: armed insurrecxtion. Kind of a wet-powder insurrection at this point, but nonetheless… and yes, pointless partisan

      divisions

    , meaningless in today’s political climate where elections are as much a joke as the parties on which people feel compelled to divide their bicameral loyalties, as if Pick Your Poison were the only game in town.

    If you’re foolish enough to believe that either party supports constitutional rights more than the other, well, a guy named Dimitry Orlov has a boat he wants to sell you. But I don’t think you’re really that foolish. I just think you like to argue along certain strictly tunnel-visionary lines. Also, I’m not sure, but I suspect you can’t honestly conceive of standing alone. Gotta be with this bunch over here that despises that bunch over there. Makes a person feel all certain and righteous and that stuff’s like golden heroin… ahh… nice nod. Lookit them purty cattle cars carrying all them deplorables libtards to Disneyland. Who needs ethnic cleansing when you can do it on ill-construed ideological lines?

    Kvetching has its charms, even positive uses if you need to tack against certain odd winds, but it’s mostly just… kvetching, and in your case, ultimately hateful* kvetching disguised as freedom-loving, constitution-humping, and party-thumping soap box oratorios.

    *hateful? The thrust of your rhetoric is almost always Whom to Hate/Blame/Shame. I don’t mind it nearly as much as my ripostes would suggest. I just think that accountability matters and since you’re basically a member of my sorority lodge, I hold you to account for what I perceive are trivializations of a topic via exacerbated hyperbole that deflates everything via hyperinflation, sort of your own private russiarussiarussia, sometimes with desecrations of your own logic or even mere data accuracy. Especially when in the end you almost always have some mostly inaccessible target in your rhetorical crosshairs, and so the result is mostly dissipation of energy similar in effect and mechanism to that caused by divide’n’conquer partisanism. Fight the POWAH! That blob on the horizon with Hates It! painted on its bum! Fulminate at all costs! They call the wind Moriah! The mighty temple rock! Shekina the wind!!!!! The process is so much more rewarding than the results!

    It’s a form of respect. It means I still take you seriously despite your many attempts to demonstrate the silliness of such an aim. But then, I am ardently and ferociously a determinedly silly woman. Laughter is not only more fun than yelling, it’s also more cutting.

    But singing… singing is, like Zappa said of music, the BEST:

    Strange Land

    Thought there was a right turn here
    Turns out to be wrong
    Thought there was a short cut there
    Seems to be so long
    I study the lines on the map
    And the lines on my face
    Am I out of time or out of place
    Is this a brave stand
    Or am I in danger
    How are we supposed to know
    When to stay or go
    Is this a strange land
    Or am I the stranger
    Rainy Sunday afternoon
    Looking for a toast
    All the whisky’s Japanese
    The bars are full of ghosts
    Here in the City of Light
    I’m looking for a cave
    Am I soul who can be saved
    Is this a brave stand
    Or am I in danger
    How are we supposed to know
    When to stay or go
    Is this a strange land
    Or am I the stranger
    Is this a brave stand
    Or am I in danger

    #73296
    zerosum
    Participant

    YouTube censors panel of medical experts over Covid-19 “misinformation”

    I’m going to continue my fight.
    I’ll use other sources of info.

    #73297
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Stanford begins testing Pfizer vaccine in babies and young children

    As I recall, young children will be used to test different doses, to see which dosage doesn’t give too much adverse reactions. The luckier children in the trials will just get a placebo.

    Pfizer says,
    Children younger than 6 months of age may subsequently be evaluated…”

    A good question, followed by a non-answer from Pfizer:

    Do children need to be vaccinated in order for the world to reach herd immunity against SARS-CoV-2?

    Children under the age of 15 account for 26% of the global population. We believe successfully vaccinating children will contribute to protection against COVID-19 if the vaccine proves to be effective in that population.

    https://www.pfizer.com/science/coronavirus/vaccine/additional-population-studies

    #73298

    Hmph- somebody done gone and erased all of zerohedges’ comments.

    #73299

    Good grief! Rense has this story about the fun things those wacky trans humanists have been fiddling around with. It’s about mRNA, vaccines, and brain/cloud interface, an arrest of a Harvard bigwig by the FBI, and a pending lawsuit….

    #73301

    …and it also contains at the end what sounds remarkably like a sales pitch. Ah, well.

    #73304
    WES
    Participant

    Germ:

    I suspect China is allowing the import of gold again to reduce the upward pressure on the RMB exchange rate..

    The Chinese government isn’t doing this out of the goodness of it’s heart. It wants to drive the RMB exchange rate down to make it’s manufacturing more competitive!

    Just another form of currency manipulation!

    #73305
    WES
    Participant

    Ontario is doing so well on their already 2 week old lockdown, after over a year of continuous old lockdowns that never worked, that they are extending it another 2 weeks until May 20th!

    This is to save the hospitals.

    Meanwhile covid cases are making new daily highs. Proves lockdowns really work!

    #73306
    absolute galore
    Participant

    @madamski wrote:
    @ Dr. D

    “You seem like a smart guy, I read your posts everyday, but your ability to be conned by the climatards and eco-loons is somewhat a disservice to your readers that actually can think by themselves.”

    The “smart guy” might want to know to whom you refer. You know, like using their name? It’s what smart people do when they want the object of their criticism to understand your criticism.

    Maybe some of those blueberry droppings got on your spectacles?;^) You are quoting a doctor of an altogether different letter.. That was Dr. P, not Dr. D. There are a fair number of Doctors on this little Internet island. However, in terms of quantity of prescriptions, there is no comparison, with Dr P’s 7 replies not in the same galaxy as the more than 1800 screeds of Dr. D’s.

    While I’m here, I meant to ask the other day, do we think Mick Jagger is for or against vaccines? Is he a “climate denier” or making fun of climate deniers? The last verse threw off my read of the song. Not that it matters much. He works hard, but he’s no working bloke.

    Even further back, was it someone named Craig Murphy(?) who objected to vaccine abstainers as immoral because, while forgoing the risk of getting a vaccine, they still benefit from the herd immunity created by all those who did take the risk and get vaccinated.

    The huge flaw in that is,that is just how he views it. I imagine there are plenty of people like me who are not afraid of the vaccine, but also not terribly afraid of the virus, at least in its current forms, and object on the grounds of how it it creating not herd immunity, but herd behavior. All kinds of lines are being blurred or obliterated, and there is plenty of immorality, but it is not coming from the decision of some to not be subjected to a vaccination just because there is tremendous pressure to do so, despite little scientific evidence that everyone should be getting it.

    Final comment: I have no idea who Jimmy Dore is, but after watching the video posted above, I have little interest in finding out. I find people who swear that much when communicating to a public audience are generally unimaginative and often blowhards with nothing much to say. George Carlin excepted, obviously.

    #73307
    absolute galore
    Participant

    P.S. @Madamski –Thank you for the Joe Jackson.

    #73308
    WES
    Participant

    Japan’s new PM must be wondering why he even bothered to sign up for a visit with joe. Kamala met him instead. All diplomic politness were missing as no one bothered to greet him upon arrival or at the white house! Surely this is how one goes about insulting a guest?

    Imagine the tales he is going to be telling his pals back in Japan about how screwed up the US is!

    #73309
    zerosum
    Participant

    “Kamala met him instead.”

    Was Joe lying down for his nap?

    #73317
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Japan’s PM was given access to the person who is the real president right now, not the senile figurehead. It sounds as though they did him the courtesy of being honest with him.

    #73319
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Meanwhile covid cases are making new daily highs. Proves lockdowns really work!

    And that’s my main beef with the whole concept of locking down. With something as contagious as Covid, it just doesn’t work. The only thing that would work would stopping all human contact, and that would certainly be a case of the cure being vastly worse than the disease. The countries that are having the worst time with Covid are the ones with large populations combined with a huge gap between the very rich and the very poor and that have historically neglected the concept of public health. One might even suspect that the elites of these countries are glad to have a pandemic that seems to zero in on poor people with chronic health problems (not to mention frail elderly people who are too old to do intensive physical labor anymore).

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