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    Sophia Loren seated by the Parthenon on the Athenian Acropolis during filming for ‘Boy on a Dolphin’, 1957   • To Friends in the US: Facilitate G
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 25 2021]

    #73840
    Dimitri
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    Maybe it’s time for the USA to recognize the genocide of the Native Americans

    #73841
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Maybe it’s time for the USA to recognize the genocide of the Native Americans

    Ah! Now you’ve done it…gone a bridge too far…………….

    #73844

    Talking about genocides, how about Australia?

    Oz

    #73845
    Germ
    Participant

    Hello from London!

    #73846
    Germ
    Participant

    Sticks and Stones DO break bones!

    #73847
    Germ
    Participant

    UK has gone bonkers.

    “Pregnant women should be fast-tracked for Covid vaccines”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9508315/Pregnant-women-fast-tracked-Covid-vaccines-leading-expert-says-surprise-U-turn.html

    Oxford University and Gates Foundation:
    Hand in Glove.

    https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants?q=University%20of%20Oxford

    #73849
    Germ
    Participant
    #73850
    Germ
    Participant

    And on the complete other end of the spectrum:

    #73851
    Dr. D
    Participant

    If Putin is subsidizing free sex I need to move to Russia right away.

    “Biden’s proposal for top marginal income rate is 39.6%.”

    Yes, but neither those people nor corporations pay any taxes, regardless of the rate. I can tax moon-people too, but I’ll have a hard time collecting.

    What was that chart with taxes? Tax rates vs revenue over time? Regardless of the rate or the attempt, you collect no more than 30%? 40%? We’re already way into that. Topped out. Redline. And the planet too for that matter. Besides, the taxes are FROM Pa’s Hardware, paid TO Amazon by the multi-billion$$$ contracts. It’s a lot of Pa’s Diners to pay for that. 150% more than exist, in fact. Or is it 200%?

    None of this matters. Amazon pays no taxes, and Bezos takes no income. However, he DOES shutdown the entire U.S. economy to spike unemployment, desperation, suicide, and keep profits up, and murder all competition, both corporately and physically.

    I guess I’m saying taxes would matter in a capitalist society. Which we’re not and haven’t been in years. In Fauciist state, it’s only insiders and party members. We make and enforce the rules only for them. The rest of you will die, so go do it quickly.

    India: 2,000 fatalities. Really? Really, people? India has +1,000,000,000 people. The virus seems to spike and drop instead of running steadily throughout the year. What I’m hearing – aside from people being bad at math – is that the U.S. has recovered so they can’t milk any senseless fear out of us and have had to move on to NEW lies.

    Making sure that the tens of millions of Indians are able to access vaccines is the only way in which a country as geographically challenging as India will be able to turn the tables on this fast-moving disease.”

    Against all present evidence. Everywhere the vaccine is, cases have risen. Why is hard to understand, but that makes this statement false. …Because they printed it. That means they didn’t look at anything or ask any questions. They just make up whatever they WANT to be real, and print it, like any deranged psycho.

    …Oh and no comments on natural immunity either. Clearly the physics that allowed that to be the cure for the last 100,000 years don’t work anymore. Gravity is suspended. Along with reason.

    And time. If you HAD the vaccine, you HAD the supply chain, that chart says you STILL couldn’t deliver enough doses to beat the curve that is happening anyway. It just takes too long with too many people needing to get up and stand around too many tables.

    Let’s see: 1B people, 15min/shot = 250,000,000 man-hours. Twice. Or 4x a year, Pharma execs say, safe in their Caribbean resorts. I detect a problem that journalists can’t identify since they’re English Majors from Columbia and can’t add single digits like we did in primary school in 1801.

    So look on the bright side: nothing they do will have any effect anyway, so don’t worry about who has the masks and vaccines that don’t work.

    “only 500 would be infected if the schools were closed

    Not only that, after they proved kids don’t get it, “Science”, “Medicine” refused to update this single parameter in the high-school kid’s volcano project. Proving they are dumber and less scientific than any High Schooler in America. …Or corrupt and up to something, maybe?

    Yes, IF the disease distribution was even — which it’s not – that might make sense. But it isn’t, we’ve know that all along, and they refuse to do anything about it because then Ontario can’t torture your kids and lock them in closets. Then where would the fun be?

    Yes, they’re going to notice, when this comes out, they’re going to be aware their parents and every adult betrayed and abused them. For no reason at all. That’s worse than sexual abuse, because at least then, you can understand it. At least then somebody wanted something real.

    Also, among the MANY reasons we knew this was false, no one did the slightest study on “six feet” and in fact chose different random distances worldwide. 60 feet now, I guess. Bring up that there’s no science and no logic and you’re anti-science. Asking for science is anti-science now.

    Note: MIT appears to be a computer model. That is: it’s totally, laughably false. These are the same models that always fail with “25M dead” “no ice by 2000” and “LTCM will never fail”. False, false, false. However, they ARE a highly profitable scam, so that’s good if you’re a scammer.

    Please point out where and when he spoke out about the Armenian genocide during that whole time.”

    Or the systemic, institutional racism apparently he was supporting. But what do you want from a guy who said, “We don’t need no n—-r mayors” on camera in the 80s.

    I’m glad we can admit the genocide, since it’s true. However, I can’t understand how NATO will continue to exist, and Russia won’t take the Black Sea and China their Silk Road right to Athens now. Maybe I lack imagination and everybody wants to do what the post popular President in world history tells them to.

    DipEnergy: funny joke, but why is everyone talking in English? Is it a show for our benefit? I say that every day there’s a “protest” and all the placards worldwide are English. Don’t worry: it’s obvious, so no one else does.

    “Ukraine is always vigilant, yet welcomes any steps to deescalate the situation in Donbas”

    …Like following the Minsk accord? That signed nations are sworn and legally entitled to enforce? Guess what: Russia can invade you to enforce the contract you signed. They don’t because that “isn’t done”, but maybe you can shut your pie hole.

    “Implication: Floyd died to redeem America of her original sin of racism.”

    …Of a 3x overdose of Chinese Fentynal. The best example here is the Floyd Autonomous Zone, which like CHAZ, now has segregation, different rules for white and black, no police, and (shock) overwhelming crime, AGAINST BLACKS, while they shoot off a banana clip of automatic fire every night. …Hey, are those guns illegal? And is shooting them into neighborhoods illegal? And they’re not following the law? Huh. Funny. Criminals not following the law and being attracted to commit crimes in places there’s no law. Who knew? We need less police and more Floyd autonomous zones. Clearly that’s safer.

    NYC is also erasing law enforcement to insure the same thing there. They withdrew all legal protection from officers. And rapes were up 300%, shootings 100%, and murder 50% BEFORE DeBlasio and his pal Cuomo got started. Not enough people getting killed in NY I guess now that they shut down his nursing home racket. Man’s gotta do something to keep those blue murders sky-high! Guns and murders blue city exclusive! No red county comes close.

    Wonder why we have trouble? We have two paradigms running side by side, 50 year test cycle. Which of the two paradigms is working? By murder, equality, racism, happiness, ecology, any metric you want. …We choose the #Opposite.

    …So says Tatum, but also a lot of others, who are purged from any public forum. Like that annoying Supreme Court Justice, darn him, that he’s been there generations, just doesn’t fit the we’ll-never-let-you-win narrative (i.e. ‘lie’) does it? Next we’re going to have to remove the segregated drinking fountains. You can look at Jericho Green too, if you like paint-peeling language. Or the Black Conservative. Or Candice Owens, or…

    But they’re real, so we deny them. When Black people don’t do as I say, they’re White. No joke, that’s been said all over this month. By white people. Telling Black people who they are. Irony is dead if ya hadn’t noticed. And a lot of black people in a lot of black neighborhoods that have been burned by people “helping” them with that arson thing. Look: if you’re not going to burn down your own cities, we’re just going to have to take major corporate funding, hire some people to bus in and burn it for you. That Fed-funded urban renewal isn’t going to move that real estate to Biden-invested white hedge funds on its own, you know. Get to it. I got $5M houses to buy. At sea level. Like Obama. Pelosi said she doesn’t understand why people aren’t rising up and killing each other more. What will it take? How many checks have we got to write? How many juries to tamper? We’re getting tired over here.

    Biden’s got more KKK papers and eulogies to write. HRC wrote the most glowing one for Grand Wizard Byrd we’d ever seen.

    Nassim Taleb Says Bitcoin Is An Open Ponzi Scheme And A Failed Currency (BI)”

    Weird. How is Bitcoin a ponzi? Digging up useless rock in one hole to go bury it in another is a ponzi, and we’ve been doing that for 5,000 years.

    The volatility is important, but “Bitcoin’s price has swung wildly recently.” Yes. Completely upward. No one cares about your volatility if your value has doubled at the end of the year, and Taleb knows it. That may make it not a currency, true. But printing $4T a quarter compounding ALSO makes you not a currency. Their lies, fraud, and failure is the only reason BTC goes up. Since they can’t stop lying, cheating, and stealing, and won’t, BTC is a sure bet. That’s not Bitcoin’s fault.

    #73852
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @Germ: What I saw in that video was both police and demonstrators being pretty militant, and the militance of the police seemed more defensive in nature (even if they were just a little to bit too eager to whack people with those batons of theirs). If those would have been US cops, then you would have seen some real police violence, I’m pretty sure!

    #73853
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Some perspective about India:

    A quick look at Our World In Data shows that India’s daily new Covid cases (per million people) are still below the new cases in Germany and France (for example). In France, it’s more than 3 times higher than India.

    A similar picture for daily new Covid deaths (per million people), with Germany having almost twice as many as India, and France having almost three times as many.

    Cases
    Deaths

    #73854
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Edit attempt failed on my comment above.
    Daily new cases per million in France are about 2 times higher than India.

    #73856
    zerosum
    Participant

    Do you see the ancient social/economic patterns?

    genocide ( removal of the undesirable)
    birth control ( removal of the undesirable)
    taxes ( removal of the undesirable; people pay taxes, corporations do not pay any taxes, regardless of the rate. )
    covid ( removal of the undesirable; new Covid deaths (per million people), with Germany having almost twice as many as India; more is better)
    natural immunity ( removal of the undesirable)
    war ( removal of the undesirable)

    Peace ( do as you’re told; Keeps the desirable; extinction)

    #73857
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @DocR: Thanks for the 411. India is certainly having a worse time because as a poorer country than the UK or any Eurozone country, their healthcare system is much harder-pressed to handle the stress of this public-health crisis.

    #73858
    Noirette
    Participant

    On previous: Save Earth Get Rich.

    Yes, all this fantasy of converting to ‘renewables’ and so on is just to befuddle ppl and keep them going along / to make money, green washing as jsutification, advertising for ‘new’ biz which has to be subsidised, forced, propagandised, other… / to look caring / to keep other endeavours, industries, like personal cars, chugging (sic) along… It is all BS, though some true believers no doubt exist.

    One of my favorite low- / small- scale examples is glass recycling.

    Glass was invented and made to be durable and washable, i.e. to last for centuries, specially if protected from shocks by a surround of rush or other (e.g. classical Chianti bottle.) A wonderful material. The glass biz. has exploded (West), so as to make citizens feel good and participate in “saving their environment” they now bring their glass to a recycling point. A long-serving container is deliberately smashed after just one use (jam jar, wine bottle, etc.) and has to be deposited, lifted, trucked to a special plant, where it is sorted (other materials), treated in multiple ways, then melted down, which requires 1400-1600°C (nat gas, coal..), to then be …Argh words fail me.

    Showing the complexity of glass bottle manufacturing. Think of the energy used!

    4 mins. https://bit.ly/3dOZMch

    One ex. that takes for granted the fact that as much glass as possible MUST be recycled.

    How better glass recycling was needed in Kansas and how this was super!!

    Deffenbaugh Industries is the exclusive hauler of Ripple Glass in the Kansas City area. We are proud to the large purple roll off containers as well as operate multiple bar and restaurant routes to make sure as much glass as possible gets recycled. Take a tour of the Ripple Glass plant with us to see what happens to your glass.

    4 mins. https://bit.ly/3dN88Rt

    Totally nuts… part II to follow.

    #73859
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Some additional perspective:

    Hospital beds per 1,000 people
    Japan 13
    Russia 8
    Germany 8
    France 6
    China 4
    Greece 4
    Italy 3
    Israel 3
    US, UK, Canada, Sweden 2-3
    India 0.5

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_hospital_beds

    #73860
    Noirette
    Participant

    Part II. Before Glass, I wanted to get to:

    Some “Green” Pol parties are not ‘Green’ and are using the label as a masquerade for a certain brand of US-supporting Foreign Policy. *Most likely* linked to Biden’s illusory ‘green’ agenda, a propaganda effort, a signal.

    Politico (23.04) for ex:

    A recent feature in the New York Times celebrated the Greens as a “pragmatic party promising an assertive stance abroad,” committed to “Germany’s membership in NATO and its strong alliance with the United States.” Another analyst argues that a coalition of Greens and the conservative Christian Democrats “could finally create a coherent defense policy.” 

    https://www.politico.eu/article/german-greens-reality-check/

    > The German “Greens” support humanitarian rights .. are against authoritarian powers, i.e. China, Russia….

    from the DW website:

    In broad strokes, the Green Party has a voter base of urban, well-educated, high-income earners. It abandoned its strict pacifist stance when it was junior coalition partner in an SPD-led government: In 1999, Green Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer got the party to back Germany’s participation in the NATO bombing of Kosovo. The Greens pushed through a nuclear power phase-out and enacted laws easing immigration and same-sex civil partnerships.

    ….The Greens oppose the gas pipeline project, which critics say will weaken Europe and Germany’s energy security. 

    https://www.dw.com/en/green-party/t-17365878

    They oppose Nord Stream 2, without one word about how German industry (not to mention freezing pensioners) are to make up the ‘loss’ or ‘pay extra’ (as it is usually viewed) to buy US NLG, which in any case, no matter the price, can’t happen, there isn’t the infrastructure.

    #73861
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    There’s something wrong with this picture:

    pic

    %^&

    @ Doc Robinson: you’ve become really good at this statistical comparison thing. Any complaints that I’ve made in that regard, please attribute to geriatric PMS or the ghosts of menopause.

    @ Noirette

    Sounds like a good time to learn pottery and tin-smithing.

    Reminds me of an obscure Stanislaw Lem novel I never got until now: it describes space explorers reaching a planet with a foreign civilization they cannot make any sense of. t seems that the occupants are gone and their machinery survives, but the machinery is as organic as it is mineral or metallic, and is constantly busy. They depart as clueless as when they arrived albeit with vast amounts of data in their computers.

    I realize now it’s a metaphor for modern human civilization?

    Modern Times

    Charlie Chaplin shows what factory work did to people’s bodies in this old classic. Today, the same thing is done to our minds.

    #73862
    Noirette
    Participant

    I didn’t see this posted, if it was, apologies – so once more…:

    Database of all HCQ COVID-19 studies. 285 studies, 213 peer reviewed, 236 comparing treatment and control groups.

    https://c19ivermectin.com

    (other info > other meds / preventatives at site)

    #73864
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    I’m not sure how to interpret the number of hospital beds per capita. It seems quite
    a mixed bag of countries at the low end, with Canada, Denmark, Sweden, and New Zealand all at around 2-3.

    #73865
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    What stands out (to me) is that Canada (for example) and India have roughly the same number of new daily Covid cases and deaths (per million), but Canada has about 5 times the number of hospital beds (per million).

    #73866
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Fascism and irrationality:

    I added the following comment to the video: A sound and substantial video, but I would like to add two caveats: 1) The popularly cited studies “disproving” the effectiveness of HCQ against Covid have been either jury-rigged to fail or even deliberately constructed lies. https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2021/04/24/covid19-taking-stock/ 2) Hillary Clinton’s partisans proved themselves more than a little bit capable of some very real irrationality in the wake of Donald Trump’s 2016 victory. (“RussiaRussiaRussia!”) It took a great deal of equanimity not to be thoroughly disgusted throughout most of 2017.

    #73867
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    I’m still kind of on the fence about face-masking. You see, I work in a grocery store, and a lot of medically vulnerable people shop there, including senior citizens. Even if universal masking of customers and employees only helps a little teeny-tiny smidgeon, then perhaps that smidgeon is worthwhile. Also, as a 54-year-old type-2 diabetic who works there full time, I am technically one of those medically vulnerable people! Same with stores such as Walmart and CVS where prescription drugs are dispensed.

    #73868

    Protein S deficiency is a blood clotting problem that often goes unnoticed.

    Protein S prevents clotting too much, so if we make antibodies to it, we will clot, right? Surprise!

    I dreamt about the S protein last night- also included was the idea that the Chinese computer model of the virus and spiked [S] protein we based the vaxxes on was a Trojan horse.

    In full disclosure, I don’t really know what I’m talking about, but I think I’m on to something, so I’m hip as can be. ; )

    #73869
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Glass is easy to reuse. And, it is dishwasher safe. When properly closed, it protects food from rodents, insects, and moisture. With some care it can be used in the freezer. Mason jars can be used to store perishable food for years. But then, I reuse most of the glass bottles that food I purchase comes in. I recognize that my habit of doing this is unusual. But it seems so pointless to go out and purchase new containers to put things in when so much of the food I buy comes in serviceable glass containers. The only downside to glass is that it breaks easily when falling from a height onto my tile floor. (But…there are more jars where that broken one came from, so no need to get upset about it.)

    #73870
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    And plus tempered glass is really, really durable. (I like my lineoleum-tile kitchen floor. Stuff I drop on it very rarely breaks thanks to its shock-absorbing qualities.)

    #73871
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    @ Mister Roboto

    Whether it’s related to masks or not, Japan’s increases in daily new Covid cases have not been so “explosive” as in other countries like the US and the UK.


    Our World in Data

    #73872
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Too many (wannabe) Lazarus.

    [I wonder what happened to the prototype… Is he still around? Leading the revolt against the Christ (the one who denied him eternal rest), perhaps? Can anyone die twice?]

    #73874
    Topcat
    Participant

    Glass ‘recycling ‘is a hustle.

    Glass is very heavy, about 150lb per cubic foot, somewhat lighter than granite.

    Broken glass has no value, it’s only valuable as a shape, i.e. – window – bottle etc

    A large truck of broken ‘recycle’ glass uses a lot of fossil fuel to physically move it from A to B.

    At present fuel prices, and the present cost of broken ‘recycle’ glass, trucking broken ‘recycle’ glass more than 25-35 miles costs more in fuel than it is worth to a remelting facility.

    The bottom line is that remelting- refabricating plants for broken ‘recycle’ glass have to be located 25-35 miles a across the country to even have a shot at breaking even.

    And they are Not.

    Which is why if you talk to people in the ‘recycle’ racket, they will tell you the vast majority of broken ‘recycle’ glass, which the public has dutifully separated for ‘recycling’, (virtue signaling) is quietly buried, yes, BURIED in land fills.

    Sometimes the location is kept in the off chance that a remelt – refabricate facility Might be built nearby in the future, but usually NOT.

    So the Sheeple have separated their glass for NOTHING and have had smoke blown up their ass as usual.

    Asphalt plants have experimented substituting broken recycle glass for crushed stone in making asphalt for road paving but oddly enough, the sharp edges of the glass wear out tire tread much fasting than crushed stone.

    Think of dumping your Harley on a road that is essential a cheese grater made with bits of broken glass and you will understand how broken glass in a road surface it’s a great idea. Polishing the glass before adding to the asphalt costs fossil fuel and cancels the savings of using glass instead of crushed stone!

    The End

    The End

    #73875
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ a kullervo

    Once, the alleged Grand Delusion was that we could live forever… in some afterlives or reincarnational afterlives or… now the grand delusion is that we can live, if not forever, longer than the previous generation, and that postponing death is souniversally and absolutely good we still deny most doctors the right to put a patient out of their misery at the patient’s request.

    I believe you cited the crabs/bucket effect. I wonder if there isn’t a subconscious version of this effect happening amid all this? Like: NO ONE GETS OUT OF HERE DEAD OR ALIVE.

    #73879
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Another thing to keep in mind about India, though, is because it is so poor, there are very likely many Covid deaths that happen in silence in remote places and so don’t get counted. Right now, the worst variant currently present in the USA is the Brazilian one (though the British one is currently dominant). I’m probably going to be more than a little bit concerned if the Indian variant (yes, they have their own variant) ever arrives on our shores at some point.

    #73885
    zerosum
    Participant

    If you are not an essential worker, do you know if you have been designated as scheduled caste for removal as an undesirable

    #73887
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ my-parents-said-know

    I have had a few experiences like you are describing: my assessment is that I was becoming ungrounded and I had to give up this site for a while and reconnect with nature. I feel the life we are living will not be recognizable in a number of years. I have often wondered what it was like prior to and entering the Great Depression. Is that what is happening or is it even worse?

    #73891
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Michael Reid
    @ my-parents-said-know

    I have had a few experiences like you are describing: my assessment is that I was becoming ungrounded and I had to give up this site for a while and reconnect with nature. I feel the life we are living will not be recognizable in a number of years. I have often wondered what it was like prior to and entering the Great Depression. Is that what is happening or is it even worse?

    Very nice comment. … and I can relate to the grounding issues…
    It’s why I like to walk barefoot on dirt; to ground my being directly to the earth…
    Very difficult times; we’ll get better with a little help from our friends in keeping in the present…

    #73913
    Noirette
    Participant

    madamski, pottery, absolutely, I love pottery! Ha Ha 🙂 phoenix voice, I keep glass containers too, Roboto, yes, but of course the recycling of glass will continue, it provides jobs for hundreds of ppl (where I live.)

    Topcat gives a great example above, yes.. What happens to the glass actually varies a lot from place to place, there are opaque financial circuits. As in all treatment of ‘garbage’ (often in Europe,run by the Mafia), as a 13-year-old explained to me, “Garbage is dirty and people don’t want to talk about it.”

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