August 12, 2021 at 3:31 pm #83460
Biden made many claims.
Do you think that Biden and his dwarfs will be able to lower the costs of drug prices?
Also, I don’t believe that We at TAE, do not have the influence that is needed to effect the path of the med establishment.
Why would anyone bother to try to change what we think?August 12, 2021 at 3:51 pm #83461
As for being a crank, for me at least, it boils down to this: If my only apparent choice is to “pick my poison” in terms of what crank to listen to, I will probably be predisposed to not listen to the crank who is on the side of an increasingly authoritarian regime. However, if the crank on the other side is too given to advocating arcane and improbable conspiracy theories, that would also be a “red flag” that would make me not want to listen to that guy either.
Is it a bizarre conspiracy theory to think that global elites have authoritarian plans for the world they (try to) rule now that it is apparent that an age of energy and resource scarcity is knocking on our proverbial door? I don’t think so, because back even before I had ever heard of TAE, my supposition was that increased authoritarianism would be the default response of the soi disant elite to the approaching age of scarcity. I also don’t think it’s a bizarre conspiracy theory to say that the policies promoted by the soi disant elite are characterized by greed, incompetence, and hubris, because those qualities are out in the open for all to see and are hardly unique to decadent and overly-complex societies such as ours.August 12, 2021 at 4:00 pm #83462NoiretteParticipant
US Dpt. of Defense. Contracts for Aug. 2, 2021.
Pfizer Inc., New York, New York, was awarded a $3,500,000,001 firm-fixed-price contract for the procurement of 500 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine for the purpose of international donation. Bids were solicited via the internet with one received. Work will be performed in New York, New York, with an estimated completion date of Dec. 31, 2022. Fiscal 2021 research, development, test and evaluation, Army funds in the amount of $3,500,000,001 were obligated at the time of the award. U.S. Army Contracting Command, Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland, is the contracting activity (W58P05-21-C-0002). (Awarded July 30, 2021)
Why is the US paying 3.5 billion (if the sum is reported correctly, which it look like is, as the 1 at the end signals there is no ambiguity in the no. of zeros) to Pfizer to give vaxs away internationally?
To whom, where, for what purpose?August 12, 2021 at 4:05 pm #83463
Zerosum makes a good point. If we’re such a bunch of crazy poopyheads here at TAE, why should anybody care what we think? I certainly don’t care what MAGAtard rednecks or triggered SJW purple-hairs think the vast majority of the time.August 12, 2021 at 4:06 pm #83464absolute galoreParticipant
My ex sent me this today regarding our son, after a bizarre text discussion about their recent trip and how one of his aunts tested positive. Gotta run to the office, but may lay it out later. Meanwhile read the science. Lot of scientific jargon, like many, a lot, slammed, tsunami. etc. etc. I started to pull some choice ridiculous quotes, but the whole thing is a solid block of ridiculous. Enjoy. gotta go.
Delta Is Bad News for Kids
More children are falling ill because more are being infected.
I’ve never seen a subhead that cancels out the scary headline. Bad editor I guess. Anyway, this is from The Atlantic, where all Covid Coverage is sponsored by Facebook and J&J. Majority owner of Atlantic, BTW, is Lauren Powell Jobs, Steve’s widow, who donated $600,000 to J Biden. And many causes connected to big pharma, she runs a “health fund foundation” Emerson.
The Atlantic’s COVID-19 coverage is supported by grants from the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.August 12, 2021 at 4:11 pm #83465
madam, “… this dynamic becoming a crucial aspect of all this. Families broken apart. BUsiness partnerships shattered.”
This is the most troubling and, might I say, poignant things that is happening now. Not only are divisive “sides” being taken within families, what I see in my own family/friend circle is the following: important subjects that must be outright avoided during conversations, personal concerns/fears that can’t be discussed because see previous point, and an underlying feeling of mis-trust because we can no longer be emotionally open without fear of repercussions.
None of that behavior constitutes the foundation of solid relationships. Extremely concerning.August 12, 2021 at 4:24 pm #83466Mr. HouseParticipantAugust 12, 2021 at 4:27 pm #83467madamski cafoneParticipant
“Also, I don’t believe that We at TAE, do not have the influence that is needed to effect the path of the med establishment. Why would anyone bother to try to change what we think?”
Some kind of desperation?August 12, 2021 at 4:36 pm #83468madamski cafoneParticipant
“More children are falling ill because more are being infected.”
Well, now we know it’s a contagious disease. Hail The Atlantic! 😉August 12, 2021 at 4:42 pm #83469
“More children are falling ill because more are being infected.”
Uh, what? As opposed to immaculate conception? So they believe in the science of germ theory? Congratulations, but no prizes. When the headlines are this dumb, I can no longer steel myself to click. But The Atlantic has become the most stunning hive of illiterate non-think and conspiracy theory I’ve seen anywhere, they make BuzzFeed look like journalists.
I think I went through their credentials once, Here’s their editor, whose latest major article was unconfirmed and seems by the passage of time to be also fake, fabricated, made-up TDS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Goldberg
1st article, sets stage for war by Saddam gassing the Kurds, forgot the mention we paid him to start the way, gave them both the intel and the chemical weapons to do it (Rumsfeld). 2010 sets the stage that we Americans just HAVE to die in Iran, or else the Israelis will attack them. Despite 30 years, neither the attack nor the nuclear material have happened.
Obama Doctrine, 2016, forgot to mention Obama’s election crew had been in Egypt to fabricate the whole Arab Spring, while he was drone-striking every black and brown person, even citizens, exactly in the order General Clark said he would, long before there was a reason, and ending in Operation Timber Sycamore (wiki), which they lost while moving arms out of Libya through Turkey to Syria and starting WWIII as HRC promised.
Strange oversights for a journalist. Maybe he needs to drink some cynicism and not Derp State kool-aid sometime. Their other contributors are far worse, probably now, follow their RUSSIA! coverage, Mueller is Coming, 25 Million dead, 15 days, and everything else they’ve said for 20 years.
But as I’ve said, it’s impossible for “Experts” to be discredited, even when equal “Experts” right next to them are completely right for decades, while they are completely wrong — and mass-murdering violent — for decades. I guess they’re just experts in loving murder.August 12, 2021 at 4:56 pm #83471userzeroidParticipant
Assange is being dragged through the motions. It occured to me as noteworthy while I was reading commentary by Rozenberg that Assange was wearing his own clothes as (despite being housed in Bellmarsh prison) he has been convicted of, and is being charged with, no crime. Utterly absurd mockery of any sense of “justice”.
Regarding the steady push (“the motions” again) I am reminded of the bureaucrats inception of the Euro. They had to get the Lisbon treaty ratified. They went to dublin, no dice – the Irish rejected the offer to join the Euro. They went to prague, no dice again – the Czech’s didn’t see any benefit either plus lots of risk (they know exactly what can go wrong with a centrally-controlled economy). They went to half a dozen other countries that also wanted nothing to do with the enourmous pipe-dream that the Euro project was/is all about. When interviewed following their disaster I can recall (on the teevee) a weasily-looking, reasonably high-up central planner (can’t remember his name) stating something like the following:
Interviewer: “How do you feel about your defeat today in Dublin, Ireland?”
Eurocrat: “Of course we are disappointed with the decision. We will be in negotiations and will come back with a new deal that we hope will be more sucessful”
This is the problem. These creatures are like the undead, they keep coming back. They don’t understand the word “No” they just keep going until they get the answer they want. There’s no attempt to appeal based on logic, no sense of really attempting to understanding the other party. They just up the bribes and keep coming back until they get the answer they want. Politicians like this bide their time and continually push towards their goal taking 5, 10 or 20 years until they gain complete control over everyone and everything in their path. In the end they get nothing. They never understood the first thing about a land and its people. You lose without consent of the governed. That isn’t something you can buy.August 12, 2021 at 4:59 pm #83472my parents said knowParticipant
The tests are now officially worthless (yet still being used).
On the first Atlantic article AG links: how do they know it’s “delta”? Without a test, how is it Covid and not a summer cold? Even my friend who is still huddling in her house didn’t consider that the runny noses her grandchildren sported a month ago were THE TERRIFYING DELTA VARIANT.
Why? ‘Cause she’s seen colds before.
Real spike protein-
Real rat’s nests.August 12, 2021 at 5:03 pm #83473John DayParticipant
You have seen the stories in COVID Camp-Out, and there is another summer vegetable garden picture.
Thanks brothers, sisters and undefined-gender-human-compatriots
(Deflationista, Who/What are You?)
https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/08/covid-camp-out.htmlAugust 12, 2021 at 6:03 pm #83474Polder DwellerParticipant
Deflationista, you can surely do better than that, a trashy thread, an appeal to emotions, poorly argued and devoid of facts or references.
Here, let me help you, I linked to this SAGE article a few days ago, but you’re welcome to it. It has its own problems to be sure, but provided you’re perfectly happy with the official narrative you’ll find that it is much better argued and at least makes some sense.August 12, 2021 at 6:03 pm #83475
The USA Puppet gov. being driven out by Taliban
It’s Going To Be Really Awkward If The Taliban Takes Kabul By September 11th
Is this another Vietnam victory?
Bring the troops home
Bring peace not drone strikesAugust 12, 2021 at 6:05 pm #83476
@kolya: “There was a line in the book that jumped out and said something like “if our vaccine is a bit dangerous it’s most likely because of the spike protein and if that’s the case then every other vaccine has the same problem”.”
It’s so much easier when someone else supports the argument we’re making … 😉August 12, 2021 at 6:11 pm #83477deflationistaParticipant
Dr. Pierre Kory and his family contracted covid last week.
Too bad they didn’t follow the FLCCC recommended protocol for preventing covid.
I hear it really works.August 12, 2021 at 6:13 pm #83478
@ Polder Dweller
“Covid-19 Conspiracy Theories”
Your search did not return any results.August 12, 2021 at 6:13 pm #83479Michael ReidParticipant
@ D Benton Smith
I don’t see any reason for you to apologizeAugust 12, 2021 at 6:17 pm #83480
Show of hands: how many on here take time posting comments on the mainstream articles/blog sites trying to change the minds of the people on there?
Deflationista … what is your stake in how us cranks think? Why bother investing time? (asking for a friend)August 12, 2021 at 6:23 pm #83481
“I hear it really works.”
You forgot to include the link to support your point of view
Update: The FLCCC Alliance’s “Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19” has been peer-reviewed, accepted, and published on May 1, 2021, in the American Journal of Therapeutics!August 12, 2021 at 6:27 pm #83482
Before I forget yet again:
Norirette: excellent summary posted earlier today. Kudos!
@Russell: I meant to respond to your post the other day about community A and community B. Thank you for providing your insights. I don’t have a situation that offers that ability to analyze, but it struck me the divide you’re observing is similar to the divide in the country now, even when there are “blended” income levels. Urban areas, blue. Less dense/rural areas, red. Very different lifestyles and values. Political system maximizing that divide to stoke disconnect.August 12, 2021 at 6:32 pm #83483Polder DwellerParticipant
No, it’s about why we cranks fall for “conspiracy theories,” not about the theories themselves.August 12, 2021 at 7:09 pm #83484
Conspiracy theories, some even being held by the majority of the population.
heheheheheAugust 12, 2021 at 7:09 pm #83485thomasjkenneyParticipant
There’s a hospital, a 150-year-old institution, that has been destroyed. I’m digesting this to suss out what parts of the story I can safely tell, and it’s still moving, so more detail as I ‘trim the hedge’ so to speak. The short is, janky dr buys hospital, all <i>real</i> doctors leave, taking their patients with them to other area hospitals. Appearances are this is one dr and a great big pile o’fraud. I’ve watched our business’ traffic from them drain over 2 years from 10k+ appts per day to 10-20 appts per day.
This fits a trend I’m seeing, that most medical in CA for the proles is being shopped out to clinics, and the hospitals are being destroyed. This follows a period of 10 years where ‘urgent care’ clinics started to crop up like (or in!) strip malls. The hospital in question is Midwest, so I tend to think it’s not regional.
I’m too dumb (or frightened) to figure where it’s headed, but it often arises in convo’s with my wife that medical in Jakarta is similar, lots of semi/unregulated clinics. Serious care for chronic/terminal illness will often bankrupt a family, so many avoid care or seek alternatives. Are hospitals this decade’s fracking? Ceased to be economically feasible, let alone profitable?August 12, 2021 at 7:14 pm #83486
i actually think deflate is having second thoughts about getting injected twice, and these squattings we have been receiving are just attempts at self-reassurance.August 12, 2021 at 7:19 pm #83487
to me, for profit medicine is about as moral as for profit firefighting.
obviously people need to be compensated for time, skill and danger, but…August 12, 2021 at 7:22 pm #83488
“Dr. Pierre Kory and his family contracted covid last week. Too bad”
Yes, too bad the CDC already admitted the test doesn’t work.
Too bad contracting Covid means nothing because unless you have a test — even one that works — you’d never know. It can be too mild to have symptoms, most of the time.
Too bad we’re all afraid to tell the truth of 1 and 2. Next?August 12, 2021 at 7:23 pm #83489
@thomas – I wrote a comment this morning about our local healthcare system. It didn’t post, I didn’t copy it before submitting, didn’t bother rewriting. I’ll consolidate it now.
Here in upstate NY (which is everywhere in NY state except NYC) we’ve had some small hospitals close over the past decade+/- (financial reasons). We have almost no independent medical practices still operating (onerous regulations, the need for expensive EHR systems to get paid after obamacare roll out, etc.) so medical practices are now corporatized. Here in central NY we are the regional medical hub for something like 9 counties. There are often long waits to see specialists (I know first-hand a young person with heart issues who waited 6 weeks to see a cardiologist). People also have to travel further for services.
The medical system will disintegrate at varying rates of speed depending on geography. I can already see this disintegration taking place in veterinary care, which is once again the canary in the coal mine for humans since animal lifespans are so much shorter.
Side note: the hospitals here use billboards and TV ads to market their services … they don’t have enough patients? I can’t figure that one out.August 12, 2021 at 7:26 pm #83490
Oh and too bad all the people who DID mask, DID vaccine, got Covid anyway, no different than Dr. Kory. 40% of them in UK and Israel. Or was it 60%?August 12, 2021 at 7:36 pm #83491HuskynutParticipant
Deflationista … what is your stake in how us cranks think? Why bother investing time? (asking for a friend)
My hunch is that deflationista has a role (perhaps even a paid one) – not to change existing minds at TAE -but rather to try and ward off any wavering n00b who stumbles into TAE with the crazy flailing tube-man actAugust 12, 2021 at 7:37 pm #83492
you’d never know. It can be too mild to have symptoms, most of the time
That’s a good point. With mild cotton mouth/ sore throat combined with some nasal symptoms that are subsumed into my seasonal hay-fever symptoms this week, I may have come into contact with the Delta Variant myself. But it may also be a mild summer head-cold. I will probably never know.August 12, 2021 at 7:38 pm #83493
maybe it’s raúl’s evil twin…August 12, 2021 at 7:38 pm #83494
Btw, in the Mississippi article link posted yesterday, the appalling picture showing emergency medical areas being set up in a parking garage was strictly used to create emotional response. Medical services in a parking garage? No one in their right mind would do that – so are Mississippi doctors that dumb? Parking garages are full of chemical/petroleum leaks from vehicles and will increase breathing issues in people who are already having, er, serious problems breathing due to covid. wtf. How long are people going to fall for this sh*t?August 12, 2021 at 7:38 pm #83495
The Story of COVID Vaccines,
from the scientist behind the technology
Featuring Robert Malone, MD, MS
Internationally recognized scientist and original inventor of mRNA- & DNA-Vaccination TechnologiesAugust 12, 2021 at 7:40 pm #83496
And here’s some junk food for you Deflationista:
“The Vaccine Scientist Spreading Vaccine Misinformation
Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA technology. Why is he trying so hard to undermine its use?”August 12, 2021 at 7:41 pm #83497
The OpenVAERS Project allows browsing and searching of the reports without the need to compose an advanced search:August 12, 2021 at 7:43 pm #83498
“U.S. Asks Taliban to Spare Its Embassy in Coming Fight for Kabul”
real headline from nyt.August 12, 2021 at 7:47 pm #83499ctbarnumParticipant
Given I posted this to deflationista awhile back (and late at night so I doubt they saw it), and the rhetoric toward us has devolved to insinuating we are “cranks”, I think the post needs a revisits. As before, sane is not happening.
After reading that long screed that seems to summarize your view that most alternative writers have “gone to the dark side,” what about Caitlin Johnstone? Has she gone crazy too? She’s said nothing about COVID the past 18 months while her country fell further and further down the rabbithole of totalitarianism, but now she has had the courage to connect the dots. Is she “crazy” now?
“The sane way to counteract the public distrust that’s been caused by generations of lies, wars and depravity would be a tremendous increase in transparency, accountability and contrition on the part of those institutions, showing the public that they have changed and are working to become more trustworthy. So naturally what we are seeing is vaccine mandates in New York City, pundits calling for forced injections, and soldiers policing the streets of Sydney.”
The problem. Sane is not happening.
This time is not like any other we have seen in our lifetimes, but parallels to the past are too noticeable. Medicine has been at the forefront of quite a few great advances, but also a good many crimes using “research” as their justification. One of those possible stories is me (count me as not a fan of Johns Hopkins, but it’s a long story), however, I’ve always been on the line as to whether what happened was a crime or an advance that helped succeeding generations of children avoid the life I have. That said, I am not going to jump into another experiment “for science” when the evidence shows the risks outweigh the benefits. I feel for your situation, however, there is a reason we have agreements such as the Nuremburg Code and the Belmont Report, it’s so we can say NEVER AGAIN. And here we are, pick a side. You can either say never again, or it’s okay again. Just remember, the same people who told us in 2001 there was reason to torture the “other” are the same people who view COVID as a reason to limit the sovereignty of the new “other.” Your choice. Pick a side.
I believe deflationista has chosen. Reason and evidence will not persuade.August 12, 2021 at 7:50 pm #83500
@germ: “Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA technology. Why is he trying so hard to undermine its use?”
Oh, I know! I know!!! Pick me! Pick me!!!
Answer: Because it has not been proven successful during all previous vaccine trials, which is why we’ve never had a mRNA vaccine to date. Unfortunately, this outcome will also likely hold true in this really big trial being done right now.
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