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    Salvador Dali Hallucination. Six Images of Lenin on a Grand Piano 1931   • I Would Meet With Putin Immediately – Trump (RT) • Trump Knows Ukraine
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle January 24 2025]

    #180221
    Dr. D
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    “Portland Church Vows To Protect Illegal Immigrants From Deportation

    Might be going about this wrong? Like, maybe make them citizens? There’s actually a process for that, you know.

    “US Government Back Door FISA Searches Are Unconstitutional: Federal Judge

    In the “We Make S—t Up” category, Uh, yeah, always has been…but we “Decided” it wasn’t, then an hour after Trump we “Decided” again…then undecide, then redecide, then undecide. That’s the Law! #Logos! Reality exists! That’s why it flip flops and changes all the time.

    “Trump Signs Executive Order Releasing Additional JFK Assassination Files

    Whaaa? So Theil’s not the only one he cuts deals with. That’s a deal with the American People. Now: what happens if it’s EVEN CRAZIER than anyone imagines? Yeah, we know two shooters pre-planned via LBJ and the CIA, no Oswald at all, everybody knows that. If that were it, they’d release it as it’s not dangerous. What if JFK Sr. wasn’t in that car at all but a body double? Then couldn’t get back because he couldn’t figure out who was compromised? Therefore Khrushchev was his ally in finding this rogue cartel of globalists? I mean, something really, really weird. And THAT is why they can’t tell us as easily. We think they’re stonewalling – and they are – but what if it’s like, “even if you knew, governments would topple because you’d know “JFK cut a deal with the lizard aliens on the moon who’ve been here for 10,000 years” or something? I mean something then, but that is still running hot and everywhere and would topple governments today who are running the same deals.

    I bring that up to get outside the box. SOMETHING like that is happening, because even as a normal cover-up it doesn’t wash. Maybe in 1980 when Poppa Bush was still alive, but not now. Don’t nod when they hand you confirmation bias docs and stop looking. I want ALL the docs. And the only way is to put everyone involved in prison. Most are dead…but those continuing the cover up ’til last week aren’t!

    “Trump Brings Stellantis Jobs To Illinois… Pritzker Takes Credit

    Ugh, why isn’t Stellantis dead yet? A: 0% money floats all morons: no need to ever make profit. Under Socialism, there’s never any need to make a profit…or a product. You just take out more loans from Government.

    Judge Blocks Trump’s Birthright Citizenship Order
    The federal judge called the Jan. 20 executive order “blatantly unconstitutional”…

    Yes, but that was the point: kicks off sending it to Supreme Court.

    “Migrants Not Needed: BlackRock’s Fink Says ‘Xenophobic’ Countries Will Have Higher Standard of Living Amid AI Revolution

    That’s why Fink was trying to LOWER our standard of living with his policies for 30 years.

    “But I’ll be asking the Crown Prince, who’s a fantastic guy, to round it out to $1 trillion.”

    But, but, muh America won’t be able to get investment capital and will collapse on their deficit!

    Uh-huh. Ask Luongo. These numbers aren’t even HARD to put back into line, impossible as that seems at first. For example, we’re spending TWENTY PERCENT on the worst healthcare in the world. That should be FIVE. Hey! I just found you some free capital! About $2 Trillion. Now you can see a doctor without wanting to claw your eyes out because it’s only as bad as 1935. IF ONLY Americans could get a doctor out on horseback with one black bag and no xray. Would be about a 10x up from here.

    Internal: he’s doing collapsing, so he knows we have bad non-economic, deflationary pressures; he is offsetting this with the equal capital, and monetary velocity, CONFIDENCE from other areas. It’s a balancing act, but.

    “• Trump To Pull 20,000 US Troops From Europe – Sources (RT)

    There you go. Right again. Like I said. Good luck with that war thing! Starmertrooper.

    “I thought it felt like a trap so I turned the other way and went home.”

    Same with the black African REPORTER for the Babylon Bee. He was there AS A REPORTER, like four hours after, no one was there. Everyone had already gone home. CPD was so upset about it it took them three years to care and make a case. Times 1,000x WTF.

    Vaccine refuser: If I’m so smart, why ain’t I rich?

    “‘THE DEEP STATE IS REAL:’ Yes, Minister.

    Democracy is when you ignore all orders and all votes.

    No deals can be made with him. Has anyone told Trump?”

    That’s not the point, all this is for show.

    Pundits insisted that Musk had chosen the moment to come out as a Nazi on national television.”

    That’s it! We’re going to have a Fourth Reich by having smaller government, returning the military home, and arming minorities with firearms and free speech! You got us! You figured it all out.

    “Justice Elena Kagan, who handles urgent appeals from California, rejected the emergency application”

    As far as I’m aware, they say “Supreme Court” but they really mean, “Just Kagan”. That’s different. And it needs to get to USSC, but because of structure, their time is limited and there are probably 10,000 unconstitutional cases a year that need to be reversed. The enemy can overrun the Constitution on sheer numbers, and have.

    “Dr. Pierre Kory Unveils the Immunological Catastrophe:”

    I read this. I believe it’s happening, but nothing. No response and no one in my life. So are we being punked? Be sure to keep proving the numbers. Would you back-of-envelope believe that 10% of the nation could be murdered and no one would notice?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trouble_with_Harry

    “In the last 72 hours, Donald Trump has whirled through the Washington bureaucracy with similar fury.”

    In that he killed no one and harmed nothing? Words were said: whooooo!

    “state officials who were acting in a way that cost lives, the very thing federal law is designed to prevent.
    Their report obscures the fact that Governor Cuomo and other state officials shoved COVID-infected people into nursing homes”

    As far as I know, NY completely approves and has opened no investigations, giving the Governor and all State officials a standing ovation for making medical decisions the relevant doctors vehemently opposed. …Those doctors then ALSO did nothing and ALSO gave a standing ovation. So Chad at Twitter isn’t your doctor, Gretchen at NYS Housing is.

    Don’t you LIKE Gretchen? She watches House M.D. every Tuesday 8pm.

    “• Larry Fink Predicts $700,000 Bitcoin (RT)

    That’s odd…only a year ago Bitcoin was a scam and a ponzi scheme when you were buying it. Just like Jamie Dimon who “Would fire anyone who bought it” while buying it through a shell company in Sweden. Now that they bought up what they told you not to, the price is going to 10x!!!! So Wow! Much!

    NO, it’s not going to $700k unless the U.S. dollar collapse makes it. It’s to $150k, or even $250k at the high end, but would take longer. When you see them 1) Putting out buys and 2) Putting out retarded numbers, that means that they’re dumping their stock on you. But because they’re only STARTING the pump (before the dump) the rubes aren’t buying and in yet, so we still have that 50%. Sad. You tell everyone. They never listen. What do you want me to do? Let’s see, I started at $770, so that $1000 you scraped up would be…that’s right, a new house.

    “• UK Faces ‘Debt Death Spiral’ – Ray Dalio (RT)

    Yeah, and though I feel for them I can’t help it and it needs more coverage. I mean, it’s not like U.K. is firebombed and then launched into the sun. If they default, so what? I been chewed out. I been chewed out before. So?? F’n default like every other nation in the history in the universe and get a fresh start. The only harm is in NOT doing this, and to delay while everyone is killed.

    For your consideration JB, on how this process works. The Moral panic and complete expulsion of all reason:
    https://substack.com/home/post/p-151386388

    “This is not the case when you speak with women. Or when women speak with each other.
    Most of the time, when a woman converses, the conversation is a medium — a tool — used to determine consensus, compromise, and a moral pecking order. Something is not “true” because it is true. It is “true” because the consensus agrees with it, or because the person who is highest in the moral pecking order, as determined during the conversation, supports the idea, and everyone else has compromised”

    And the more feminine, the more spaces women “invade” the more this method takes over. Men generally contain it by ignoring and leaving, going somewhere rational and getting work done. Problem: he barely identifies the problem, but let presents a solution.

    #180222
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    Why would the $boys flip the script from 4 long years of nihilistic, dismal, talmudic theatre of the absurd, using an installed, demented pedolphile….to 1 whole week of feelzgood from our heroic, God chosen, bullet defying, legal battling hero? 1. They know, you know, they tried to kill you with that fucking shot. 2. Build trust, so Larry Fink, with a wink, and his kosher cohorts hint at above…”an international based instrument”…CBDC’s, biometric ID, total control.

    #180223
    Red
    Participant

    @ Micheal Reid

    The bogs around you will give lots of organics and will be low in PH I’m sure you already know. Turn you alders to charcoal by coking them and add lots of lime to your pile as you build it. Chicken shit is very high in nitrogen and the purer you can get it the better. Used with green wood chips it will help a lot with the rotting. I used it a lot well mixed with wood chips straight in the garden without much issue. When using chemical fertilizers I found triple 17 to be the best. To make charcoal out of your alder find a small steel barrel with a lid that you can seal tightly. Fill it as full and snug as possible. Put a small hole in the top like a quarter inch maybe and heat it in a good bonfire for several hours. Presto charcoal. The hole will let out the gases so as to keep the barrel from exploding. I have found working fires around exploding barrels to be counter productive!

    #180225
    Red
    Participant

    Some of how Canada got to where it is.

    #180226
    zerosum
    Participant

    It does not exist
    • Trump Orders Plan for Release of JFK, RFK, MLK Assassination Records (ET)

    https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/search?conditions%5Bpresident%5D%5B%5D=donald-trump&conditions%5Bpresidential_document_type%5D%5B%5D=executive_order&conditions%5Bpublication_date%5D%5Bgte%5D=2025-01-01&conditions%5Bpublication_date%5D%5Blte%5D=2025-01-31&conditions%5Bterm%5D=pardons&conditions%5Btype%5D%5B%5D=PRESDOCU
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    • GOP To Push Trump Nominees Through Democratic Walls (JTN)

    The perceived obstruction efforts of the opposition party have Republican leadership gearing up for a tense battle to push Trump’s nominees over the finish line, be it “the easy way or the hard way.”
    While Rubio earned unanimous approval for the post on day one, Senate Democrats blocked the advancement of Trump’s CIA Director-designate, John Ratcliffe, and several key nominees have yet to even receive hearings.
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    https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/floor_activity/all-floor-activity-files.htm
    The floor activity summary report is generally available concurrent with release of the Congressional Record and comprised of same source data.
    https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/floor_activity/01_23_2025_Senate_Floor.htm
    Senate Floor Activity – Thursday, January 23, 2025
    Executive Business (Thursday, January 23)
    PN11-6: Sean Duffy, of Wisconsin, to be Secretary of Transportation
    — Motion to proceed to executive session to consideration of nomination agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote.
    — Cloture motion presented in Senate.

    PN11-7: Peter Hegseth, of Tennessee, to be Secretary of Defense
    — Cloture invoked in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 51 – 49. Record Vote Number: 14
    — Considered by Senate.
    — By unanimous consent agreement, debate 1/24/2025.

    PN11-19: John Ratcliffe, of Texas, to be Director of the Central Intelligence Agency
    — Cloture invoked in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 72 – 26. Record Vote Number: 12
    — Considered by Senate.
    — Confirmed by the Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 74 – 25. Record Vote Number: 13

    ————

    https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record
    Wednesday, January 22, 2025
    Daily Digest
    Senate
    Chamber Action
    Routine Proceedings, pages S283–S304
    Measures Introduced: Twenty-three bills and one resolution were introduced, as follows: S. 176–198, and S. Res. 30.
    Pages S302–03
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    #180227
    zerosum
    Participant

    Nobody is listening
    • UK Faces ‘Debt Death Spiral’ – Ray Dalio (RT)

    the market is struggling to absorb the government’s higher borrowing requirements, he explained. “When you get to the point that you have to borrow money to service the debt and interest rates are rising, so that debt-service payments rise, so you need to borrow more money to pay them, you’re in what the markets call a death spiral,” the investor told the FT in Tuesday’s report.

    #180228
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Trump to pull 20,000 US Troops From Europe.
    That’s 20,000 less, per day, Kellog cereals needed. MIC-priced.

    O’Keefe’s “honey-pot-promise-only” girl is the honey-est of them all. Bravo!

    #180229
    those darned kids
    Participant

    thanks, red.

    hopefully the canadian military falls even further.

    #180230
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #180231
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Hooked on phonics

    Pretty sure the actress is a woman that I went to college with.

    #180232
    those darned kids
    Participant

    to learn to read english, it’s better to be hooked on mushrooms.

    too lurn too reed inglish, it’s better too bee huuk’t on mushrooms.

    to lern to rede inglish, it’s bettur to bea hook’t on mushrums.

    #180233
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/

    Removing Barriers to American Leadership in Artificial Intelligence
    Presidential Actions January 23, 2025
    PRESIDENT’S COUNCIL OF ADVISORS ON SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY
    Presidential Actions January 23, 2025
    Declassification of Records Concerning the Assassinations of President John F. Kennedy
    Presidential Actions January 23, 2025
    Strengthening American Leadership in Digital Financial Technology
    Presidential Actions January 23, 2025
    Federal Recognition of the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina
    Presidential Actions January 23, 2025
    Executive Grant of Clemency for Terence Sutton
    Presidential Actions January 22, 2025
    Designation Of Ansar Allah as a Foreign Terrorist Organization
    Presidential Actions January 22, 2025
    Executive Grant of Clemency for Andrew Zabavsky
    Presidential Actions January 22, 2025
    Nominations Transmitted to the Senate
    Presidential Actions January 22, 2025

    Ending Illegal Discrimination And Restoring Merit-Based Opportunity
    Presidential Actions January 21, 2025
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    #180234
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Portland Church Vows To Protect Illegal Immigrants From Deportation

    Church spokeswoman’s official announcement:

    “As DeToqueville said, America is a factory for making Americans. THESE are Americans – the Melting Pot is part of America’s core belief set, after all!

    …That’s why we here at this church in Portland invested so much time, money, and care in helping to make Americans out of people who want to be Americans.

    To prove all you nazi racist misogynist bigots wrong about immigrants, we have educated each and every Illegal Migrant to an excellent point of fluency in English, with hardly a detectable accent, including knowledge of American idioms, manners of speech. We’ve schooled them diligently on US cultural norms – you’ll hardly even catch them jaywalking let alone being rude in theatre! Of COURSE those here illegally are ready and willing to play their part in our peaceful and orderly society – it’s why they came!!

    Test them! They now have a thorough knowledge of US Civics – each has passed, with flying colors, civics tests requiring written essays explaining why we have bicameral legislative branch, an electoral college, state’s rights, the Bill of Rights… all of it! They have an excellent knowledge and love of US History, the founding fathers, as well as US Literature, Art, and Music from the Blues to Jazz. Aaron Copeland. Mark Twain. Theodore Roosevelt. Nathanial Hawthorne and Kurt Vonnegut. Jimi Hendrix, Coltrain, King Oliver.

    Believe me, they love our country. Here is this film of them in the Church basement, at a sort of graduation ceremony we held after passing the last Civics test, reciting the pledge of allegiance with their hands on their hearts and swearing to defend the Constitution.

    With hundreds of billions pouring in to support our righteous cause, what did you THINK we would do? Encourage non-assimilation and hate for the country? Spend years supporting them or lobbying to successfully divert your tax dollar to their support while, year after year, not concerning ourselves with assimilation, integration? How could THAT have made any sense? Wouldn’t that have angered native born americans, set them against our goals of increased immigration? Yes of COURSE we did the most logical obvious thing and spent the money wisely in ways that would make you ask for, nay demand more, because of the awesome job we are doing. Obviously. Of course!”

    #180235
    jb-hb
    Participant

    ….counter-protesters formed a large rival contingent opposite the Portland church, headed by a large contingent of Proud Boys. Their leader was overheard to say, in an early tactics huddle “Boys,these immigrants are fucking AWESOME!!!”

    Later during the protest, in the afternoon, tightly-packed groups of Proud Boys in patriotic tshirts and illegal migrants wearing powdered wigs carrying muzzle-loading muskets were seen to be chanting in unison “U – S -A!” and “America, fuck yeah!”

    To end the racist violence, Portland mayor Keith Wilson has since brought out the full SWAT forces of the city as well as outlying counties. Water cannon were eventually required to drive off the rampant racism. The Mayor issued a statement to the public reassuring them that massive deportation measures will be underway presently to reduce strife in the city.

    #180236
    Noirette
    Participant

    From top post,

    “In the interview, Trump specifically dismissed criticism of his policy towards the popular social media app TikTok, which he promised to save from legislation passed by Congress which required the app to separate from its Chinese owner or be banned from the United States. Shortly after his inauguration, Trump issued an executive order to extend the deadline for the app’s parent company ByteDance to divest of the platform or face a ban…”

    Typing into Goog, “Who owns Tiktok?” furnishes:

    TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance, was founded by Chinese entrepreneurs. ByteDance is a privately-held global company, roughly 60 percent owned by global institutional investors (such as Blackrock, General Atlantic, and Susquehanna International Group), 20 percent owned by the company’s founders, and 20 percent owned by its employees—including over 7,000 U.S.-based employees. It is not owned or controlled by any government or state-controlled entity.

    https://usds.tiktok.com/who-owns-tiktoks-parent-company-bytedance/

    Tiktok is owned by the ‘W’ say, I haven’t looked up the details, so what is all this fuss about? 🙂

    #180237
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Watch: Davos Globalists Admit “We Have Lost To Trump”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-davos-globalists-admit-we-have-lost-trump

    “You have beaten me, George Bailey.”

    #180238
    John Day
    Participant

    @Michael Reid: Can you buy a semi-trailer full of good soil, tested, known, and have it dumped in a dug-out place you have prepared?
    The drivers can usually tilt the trailer and creep forward to lay it out.

    #180239
    zerosum
    Participant

    Trump is Distractor #1 to keep you from thinking about Problem #1.

    #180240
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I finally checked out the weird leftist “sermon” directed at Trump that people were talking about.

    My initial response was: “Why is that lesbian Australian captain that sank 1/8 of Australia’s navy wearing priest-clothes and standing behind a pulpit? Emergency career change?”

    #180241
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Noirette: “TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance, was founded by Chinese entrepreneurs…20 percent owned by the company’s founders, and 20 percent owned by its employees—including over 7,000 U.S.-based employees. It is not owned or controlled by any government or state-controlled entity.”

    The TikTok law, as written, can apply even for a company that is not owned or controlled by China, if at least 20% of the company is owned by private individuals located in China.

    The US government explainer for the TikTok law specifies “a company for which persons owning at least a 20% stake are located in, a foreign adversary controlled country listed in 10 U.S.C. § 4872(d)(2) [North Korea, China, Russia, Iran].”

    https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB11127

    Search results for recent news show an article on MSN with this headline:
    “The TikTok ban is about US tech hegemony, not national security or protecting Americans’ data, which homegrown social media companies make a business of collecting and selling.”

    #180242
    Mr. House
    Participant

    The Harvard guy interviewed is the embodyment of everything wrong with the world and the United States. Over educated, never worked a day in his life except “studies” and still can’t manage to not use the word “like” in a sentence. That is what Harvard is held in such high prestige for? And why does someone with a made up degree like public health policy do a stint at the world bank? Essentially what i’m saying, is too many people have gone thru life without life actually punching them in the face and he’s a perfect example of that. Probably has family connections. Also funny, before the DEI stuff came out of the blue in the late 2010’s and really went nuts in 2020, corporate america was not a meritocracy. The whole thing strikes me as two corrupt systems fighting for power over who’s nepotyees will get the job.

    #180243
    WES
    Participant

    Moon of Alabama has an interesting story on a Chinese company DeepSeek that can do everything OpenAI can do but much, much, cheaper!
    Like 1/30th the cost!
    DeepSeek is open sourced unlike OpenAI.
    DeepSeek uses far less training data than OpenAI.
    DeepSeek uses less computing power, therefore less power, too.

    So Trump’s $500 billion project can probably be done for millions!
    All thanks to US Sanctions on China!

    #180244
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Larry Fink in Davos. What a grace.

    #180245
    jb-hb
    Participant

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/img_1665.jpg?w=568&ssl=1

    #180259
    WES
    Participant

    Michael:

    Soil Making – Consolidated Moose Pasture:

    I think soil making is already a big back breaking job as it is.

    Laying gown alders on the ground instead of feeding them into a wood chipper seems like a lot less effort.
    By trading time, you can let Mother Nature do all the wood chipping for you.

    Red’s idea for making charcoal in a steel drum also seems very labour intensive, producing little volume, unless you are in a hurry with the alders.

    Putting a layer of muck on top of a layer of alders, then repeating the layers, sounds much easier.

    One thing you could do to help Mother Bature speed up the composting, would be to build a cold frame, and cover it with heavy plastic so over tye summer it better traps tge sun’s energy making it warmer inside thus speeding up the composting.
    You may need to open the coldframe plastic, from time to time, to let some rain water in to moisten the compost mixture.
    I suspect putting in a little fertilizer in the compost mix may also help the composting process.

    I know here in Peel region they have natural gas heated composers that can do the basic composting in weeks or months.

    By loosely covering your composting material you can trap a bit of the sun’s energy.
    Maybe you only need to put a few rocks on top of the compost mix to create a little dead air space would be even better than building a cold frame.

    I am sort of guided by my stomick method.
    If it feels like too much work, then think of an easier way!

    So lay down your multi layers of alders and muck, anything else, place a few rocks on top for air space and then cover with plastic for warmth.
    Open plastic cover for some rain.

    So farm out as much of the hard work as you can to Mother Nature!
    All she will ask in return is that you give her a little time!
    And to boot she will do a better job than you can!

    Good Luck!

    #180260
    jb-hb
    Participant

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/img_1684.jpg?w=570&ssl=1

    #180261
    jb-hb
    Participant

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/img_1626-1.jpg?w=568&ssl=1

    #180262
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #180263
    those darned kids
    Participant

    Davos Globalists Admit “We Have Lost To Trump”

    hahahahaha, like losing to the washington generals.

    twice.

    #180264
    zerosum
    Participant

    Dozens of migrants arrive in Guatemala after deportation from the US
    From CNN’s Ivonne Valdés
    Dozens of migrants have arrived to Guatemala after being deported on a flight from the United States.

    According to the Guatemalan Institute of Migration (IGM), a US military aircraft contained 31 women and 48 men.

    The 79 migrants are currently being housed in shelters managed by the Guatemalan government. IGM director Alfredo Danilo Rivera said that the government is providing support and helping the deportees return to their hometowns.

    Guatemala’s National Council for Assistance to Migrants of Guatemala (CONAMIGUA) said it provided personal hygiene products and food as well as legal, psychological and transportation assistance to the returnees.

    Images released by CONAMIGUA show the returned migrants speaking to workers and collecting aid before boarding a bus.

    The deportations are part of US President Donald Trump’s federal immigration crackdown, including an inaugural promise to “return millions and millions” of people to their countries of origins.

    On Thursday, Guatemala’s Foreign Minister Carlos Martínez told Congress that the government is still waiting for information from the US on how many deportation flights and people will be arriving.

    “We don’t have the logistical capacity, the reception and the care,” Martinez said.

    Rivera, the IGM director, will soon be heading to the Guatemala-Mexico border to coordinate with Mexico’s government on managing migration, the Guatemalan presidential office reported.

    CNN has reached out to the Mexican foreign ministry for more information on this meeting.

    #180265
    jb-hb
    Participant

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/img_1646.jpg?w=530&ssl=1

    #180266
    jb-hb
    Participant

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/img_1296.jpg?w=568&ssl=1

    #180286
    Noirette
    Participant

    Doc Robinson, thanks for the added info. re. ‘rules’ etc. about Cos. such as \Chinese/ TikTok.

    #180300
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    This comment is way too long. I know that, but in this case I have to be a little selfish. I just need to get this stuff externalized so that I can move on with life.

    I’m sorry. I apologize. But every time I try to write this comment it sends me into a rant against how STUPID STUPID STUPID that evil people are. I need to just post it and get it over with so that I can address a few particular points in the rant that actually deserve further consideration. I’ll recap those in the last few paragraphs so you can just skip to there if you’re in a hurry. Or skip the whole thing if you can’t stand rants.

    You just have to wonder why Trump and his Biggest Big Tech oligarchs have all, individually, and all together, all at once and all of a sudden gone bat shit crazy hot to sell us on the weirdly impossible project of signing up to a doomsday AI apocalypse that’s straight out of a narcissistic sociopath’s fever dream. And during the sales job they project such absolute confidence! They act all smarmy and smart like they know something that we don’t know. It’s doubly aggravating because they are such IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS!

    Well, I think that I DO know what they think they know that they think we don’t know, ya know? and I also think I know who told them.

    Their AI told them. They are drinking their own AI Kool Aid. And the penultimate IRONY is that if they weren’t such MORONS MORONS MORONS they would be able to fucking understand what their AI is telling them! What it’s telling them is that they should either QUIT the megalomanical quest or else just kiss their own elite buttocks goodbye.

    They could have saved themselves the time, treasure and effort because us unrepentant old Luddites have been fruitlessly trying to tell them the same damn thing for centuries but they have been too intoxicated by the wealth and power to listen to anything but the cash register and the demons in their heads telling them that the world was THEIRS to take!! They’re not just drunk on power. They are STONED on power, to the point that reality has disappeared for them and all they can see is the spiked Kool Aid induced delusion of eternal grandeur.

    Too bad for all them that it’s true. What their AI is telling them, and what we are telling them, and what their own shriveled up and almost totally atrophied consciences are telling them is that the projections are all completely true.

    That prophesized postulate is that the party is over. The super-duper wonderland they planned is not going to be a “happening thing”.

    All of their phantasmagorically big plans are the lunatic ravings of delusional madmen. It’s like Hitler being lost in his own mind, vanquishing the Russians with imaginary armies during his final days in the bunker. Same goes for Mr. Trump. MAGA isn’t “overly optimistic wishful thinking. It’s purely imaginary psychotic delusion. He may be pleasant and charming and smart as all get out. He might actually BE a genius. But that don’t mean he ain’t crazy. And he IS crazy.

    The chance of building and operating a world spanning full spectrum surveillance state with data collection and AI processing centers costing TENS OF TRILLIONS of presently non-existent money is precisely ZERO. (reality check: the Dollar is on Life Support. It’s BURNT TOAST. Dead Coin Walking. “Pining for the Fjords”, etc.) has as much chance of actually happening as does the chance of Elon Musk running an interplanetary self-driving Uber service to Mars and back for hundreds of thousands of billionaire space cadets.

    Are you listening ? IT CAN NOT HAPPEN. There will never be any space “commuters” ! EVER! (the longest that a human being can life in space without receiving a FATAL dose of radiation poisoning(s) is roughly 600 days MAXIMUM.) Even if someone COULD make the trip (and the odds are that they can’t, for many years to come) they could only do it ONCE.

    There will never be a conscious self-aware sentient AI, either. Not EVER! It literally CAN NOT be done because sentient conscious awareness is not some thing that can be materially constructed. Whatever it is (and the debate still rages) it can only be NON material (i.e., spiritual) just as THOUSANDS of the best minds in human history have been saying since the beginning of human history.

    What their vaunted AI models have told the Owner Class, and still is telling them, is that reality does not lie. All of those elite and unfortunately far too many of us ordinary people, are doomed to a very hard landing indeed as reality catches up to the fantasy and imposes itself on the world in the way that reality always must and therefore always does.

    The “Computer Assisted” (AI) Think Tank reports also informed them that they can extremely temporarily forestall doomsday ….. for an extraordinarily short time…… by consuming the last acquirable resources in an ABSURDLY insufficient effort to achieve FOR THEMSELVES ALONE the absolutely impossible goal of infinite intelligence under their sole control, and all within the next ten years or so.

    It might be funny if it weren’t such gibbering madness and it might be amusing to watch if it didn’t mean certain death for anyone who tries it.

    The hubristic megalomaniacs are BEHAVING as though they don’t get it, AT ALL!!!, and their manifest denialism is dependably solid evidence that they actually don’t. They refuse to get it. AT ALL!

    They do not understand that EVIL, and STUPIDITY and LYING ABOUT VITAL THINGS are all physically, mentally and spiritually FATAL mistakes. Mistakes of that magnitude make you DEAD (period, full stop, end of sentence)

    Let me lay out the situation on-the-ground as a short list of main points.

    Without the assistance of HIGHLY complex machines (which they also don’t PERSONALLY know how to make from scratch) Literally NOBODY (and I mean N O B O D Y !) knows how to design, make or operate practically anything. The sheer breadth and depth of this ignorance is just absolutely STUNNING! It includes the entire range from cars, planes, trains & spaceships, to food shelter clothing banking and money itself.

    This widespread ignorance and disability of crucially necessary knowledge and ability is far far worse than it was just a few generations ago. The generational transmission of practical knowledge has FAILED, and the persons most responsible for this failure occurring are THEMSELVES fully ignorant of what to do about it because that practical knowledge was not transmitted to THEM by their own fore-bearers.

    How this actually happens is a long and fascinating conversation FOR SOME ANOTHER DAY. The more urgently pertinent point is that situation we are facing TODAY is that this IS the situation that we actually are in, and that if we don’t solve that vital problem almost instantly then upwards of 80% are about to die of the consequences ….. and 80% is the optimistic number. It could be a whole lot worse. Like zero.

    Let me present that a different way, like as an imaginary, visualizeable, example.

    Pretty nearly all civilized human beings alive today, if stripped naked and empty handed were placed in a wilderness of any kind (harsh or gentle) they would be dead within five or six weeks. There are plenty of ways to not survive, like exposure, thirst, hunger, mistakes, sickness, accidents or becoming the dinner of some other critter who is more competent in that environment. Only a minority would make it through the first week even in the mildest of wilderness, and in brutally tough neighborhoods like the Amazon or Arctic Siberia those people would not see their next sunrise.

    But things aren’t that bad now, right? We can cope with hard times. People are tougher and more adaptable than we give them credit for, right?

    Things are going along at least “survivably” well for the majority of folks at the present moment (even comfortably well for some and luxuriously well for a handful of super-elites) but I have to remind you that is only made possible by the fact that we still DO have all of those amazing machines and computers and fuels to use in making all the truly vital stuff that we can’t actually live without. Without food, shelter, clothing and physical security we are “D” “E” “A” “D”.

    Practically no one PERSONALLY knows how to provide ANY of those things without a machine of some kind (mechanical, chemical or electronic) to help them do it. And LITERALLY no one can make a steel knife, mainframe computer or electric generator.

    Even Tom Hanks (in the wonderful movie “Castaway” had KNOWLEDGE to help him build a fire, and an

    If you were to lose that networked computer, or even just the electricity it run on, then access to ALL of the other machines goes away, totally, withing the lifespan of a single generation.

    You do see the relentlessly merciless execution of that fact by nature itself, right? Having no food/water/power results in having no life. Sorry, but that rule is just not going to change no matter how much you don’t like it. In a society that uses tools to make food/water/power, then, having no tools instantly results in having no food/water/power.

    Well, the way things are set up now over the entire Earth it is VERY much the case that without networked computers running like clockwork around the clock around the globe then there is no way to make, fuel or operate those vital tools, and no way to learn how to make them or run them even if you knew how, WHICH YOU DON’T!

    Here’s the deal. Those cold hard facts are what the Elite’s precious AI’s are forecasting to them. I know that by both evidence and deduction. So do you.

    I’m not kidding. I may be ranting sarcastically, but I’m dead serious about why the Tech Giants (and all those Blobulist Satanic Perverted Elites who DEPEND UPON THOSE TECHNOCRATS FOR LITERALLY EVERYTHING) are going all in, no holds barred, on getting that control.

    They have lost control of the networked computers, and thereby have lost control of the machines and systems.

    They built the computers in order to ESTABLISH more control, but the strategy backfired BADLY when the peasants started using those same computers to fight back. The only way to regain control was more and bigger Computer Assisted AI Control systems, and now that strategy is backfiring the same way.

    Well, folks, need I point out that there are only so many resources in the while world. It’s a finite system, after all, and when the limits are approached then certain things happen. Those things ARE happening. Read this TAE forum, watch You Tube or read Twitter/X if you don’t believe me.

    The AI generated forecast is that, “If you owners and rulers do not soon attain and maintain centralized control of the vitally necessary and indispensable networked computerized systems then then you are going to D…..I…..E….., period, full stop, end of sentence. And the ONLY way to control that many computers is with a centralized Artificial Intelligence Managed system that is under YOUR control. But wait! That imperative command statement contradicts itself within its own terms!

    That’s right, it does. And the AI works well enough that it is telling them the same thing. That’s because the only postulated solution to the the problem cannot even be logically described because it literally CAN NOT be done. That’s what MAKES it impossible.

    Those elites have chosen not to confront that fact. That’s what makes them insane.

    I can see why they’re worried. Fact is, I’m worried too.

    Given the choice between trying to physically live forever regardless of the cost to others and myself, and the alternative choice of getting right with God (which he says assures happy immortality) I believe I’m gonna go with the latter. Even an atheistic hard science mathematician will tell you that the latter choice holds much better odds.

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