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  • #77665
    Mister Roboto
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    The thing with the “unvaxxed wear masks” rules here in Wisconsin is that in typical USAmerican fashion, we’re doing it half-assed, with the result that anyone who wants to can ditch their face-mask now. I suppose I’ll keep a mask in my rear back-pocket of my pants for the next few years, but seriously nobody is going to come up to you in a store or wherever and demand to see your “proof of vaccination”. I think here in Wisconsin we’re at the point where we don’t really believe masks do anything much to help stop the spread of airborne viruses, and even if they did, we still just don’t care anymore. Hoo-ray, I can eyeball the beautiful young men again! (No, “Me-Too-ers”, I don’t leer, I just look and try to make it appear as casual as possible.)

    #77666
    Dr. D
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    “if one accord is denounced by CH, all the rest fall flat,”

    Soooo…basically extortion and terrorism. And the government said “Yup! We’re the top negotiators: looks good to us! Nothing could possibly go wrong!” And everyone will pretend it’s an “accident”.

    You can’t BE that stupid on accident. Accidents involve random things happening, not the world’s most predictable things, ever.

    “Polish and Slovak guys and gals go and work in Germany and France, and they are paid …like in their country”

    Soooo…legalized slavery and human trafficking, just like in the ‘States. Got it. What’s not to like? That even includes E. European sex workers, so got the whole labor market covered. Aren’t they 14 too, just like RBG wanted back ‘when? So. Proud.

    “High pay in CH”. Yeah, have they seen the cost of living in Geneva? Srs? Why can’t we live in San Fran and get paid prices from Bangalore? What’s wrong with these guys? “I can’t eat, I’M going to die, Me Me Me…” Don’t ya know we got $5,000 ice cream fridges to buy? Police will just have to live in Death Valley and commute. (This is actually happening).

    At least the Swiss retain some sense, not being part of the EU.

    Wear your gold star mask with pride. Remember it’s gold! They are self-selecting. Now you know who can be trusted: they’re either masked or skirting it. Ignore the others, they’re not trustworthy and may die soon. (Or not. Still waiting for final info)

    Thanks to America, despite every attempt, exploit, and loophole, I can’t get any work done at all anymore and I’m here instead. That’s okay, they’re really doing me a favor: like all of us, I’m punished if I work and rewarded if I don’t anyway. When they’ve reached their heart’s desire and you hear Americans are now living in caves and tents, you’ll know they’ve finally succeed.

    #77667
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Gotta love this. Delta variant likened to a “bad cold”. So let’s all freak out and get a vax with extreme effects over a bad cold? They admit it.

    ““Covid is also acting differently now,” Spector noted in a YouTube briefing last week. “It’s more like a bad cold in this younger population and people don’t realize that and that hasn’t come across in any of the government information.”

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/covid-delta-variant-symptoms-spread-and-what-to-look-out-for.html

    #77668
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    The “bad colds” having been endemic in the timespan of human existence.

    #77669
    Mr. House
    Participant

    So its not about covid, just like it hasn’t been from the beginning. If we continue to do nothing, like we’ve done all my life, put a fork in us we’re done.

    #77670
    hostebbe
    Participant

    Dr. John you are a phenomenon. The rest of us run our operating systems on carbos and fats. Please, please share your secret.

    #77671
    zerosum
    Participant

    Seldom used words by our masters.
    I’m sorry
    I made a mistake
    Its my fault.

    #77672
    Dr. D
    Participant

    ““Covid is also acting differently now,” Spector noted in a YouTube briefing last week. “It’s more like a bad cold in this younger population”

    Actually, that is exactly the same. They were all LYING, and now that the facts are confirmed, keep LYING, and when something new happens, LIE by pretending the same is new.

    Covid was always 99.97% safe. It’s 99.997% safe if you’re under 70. That is, it’s a “bad cold”. As seen by how Influenza and Pneumonia were cured! 0% deaths, instead becoming Covid.

    Always always safe. Safe then, safe now. Maybe it existed for 1,000 years: no one ever tested before, nor would have noticed. Kidding, but as Day says, probably appeared as early as October and nobody noticed.

    And safe, relatively. What is Measles, a disease we used to get on purpose? About the same. What was a REAL pandemic like smallpox? 10%. 1 in 10. I know everyone’s bad at math, run screaming from the room, horizontally body tackle anyone who poses math on their lips, straightjacket and disappear them, but 99.997% is one in one hundred, one thousand, ten thousand, three in a hundred thousand.

    Three per city. SHUT IT DOWN Mr. PRESIDENT. Kill ’em all, let God sort them out!

    Death rate? Hardly rose, just pulled a few forward. U.K. death rate at 5 year low. Still shut down. Well, ya know, they’ve got the variant, which is a bad head cold. SHUT IT DOWN.

    Fascism needs no excuses: power is its own reward.

    #77673
    madamski cafone
    Participant
    #77674
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    *sigh*
    I hate raffles, gambling, sweepstakes, and lotteries.

    TPTB…do they realize that prizes — even definite, guaranteed prizes, not maybes — only work for a subset of the population?

    I have 3 kids.
    One is motivated by rewards. He loves it when he is enrolled token systems at school, in a behavioral health program, at home. In order to parent him I had to figure this out, and work with it.

    His twin could take or leave token systems. Rewards are nice to this son, but he tends to do chores and such for the intangible benefits of parental approbation.

    My daughter feels manipulated by reward systems. When she is asked to do something, she wants to control the how and when. If there is a reward attached she will work towards it if it is convenient for her, and as long as I understand that she doesn’t have to do it, and sometimes she may not.

    A lot of us see through reward systems. Raffles for doing a medical procedure — do they really think that we are that mindless and stupid? The rewards reveal their hand.

    Of course, this is the carrot. Next will be the stick. (Oh, and “the stick” never worked al that well with any of my three kids.). (“Stick” used figuratively for “punitive consequences.”)

    And, yes, many do see the unvaxed as stupid…because that is how people deluded by brainwashing see those who are not so deluded.

    #77675
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    I don’t think we should forget that there was an unfortunate subset of the under-60, relatively-healthy population that ended up receiving a very nasty wallop from Covid-19 on account of their innate immunological allotment not being to fend off the virus, and if it weren’t for the cytokine-storm-disruption protocol utilizing steroids (and blood thinners for the clotting) developed by Dr. Pierre Kory, I think more of this unfortunate handful might have perished in the hospital. A few of them actually did. This isn’t surprising, as we all know by now that Covid-19 was made in a lab to be meaner than the average coronavirus!

    #77676
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    “….not being able to fend off the virus….”

    #77677
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    You stand in line at a jazz club. The doorperson asks to scan your pass. You’re allowed into the club.

    You’ve just volunteered your Personal Health Information to the doorman, who, by allowing you in, has just communicated that bit of Personal Health Information to all the other folks in line, the other staff in the venue, the musicians, any passers-by. I assume that, even though they might not see the PHI facet of this, they surely know they are deliberately communicating that one status point (with MANY connections) to hundreds of third-party participants in the exchange.

    That violation of HIPAA is a felony with a possible 10 year prison sentence.

    You can’t get to the folks at the top of this. It’s the attacker/defender paradigm. How can you defend against new threats? How can you detect new threats in a pool of 8bn people? Think globally, act locally. Break the tools. Misused tools often break. Oops. Shoudn’t’a used that screwdriver to pry my 302 block into position. The Gates, Fauci, Schwab et al are tools. They are not invulnerable, and can be broken. They are obviously not the critical parts, as they seem to have fallen under a passing vehicle at some point. But there appears to be a need to have something like them to get things done.

    So…excommunication. I have a hard time with the lamp-posts concept (was raised a peacenik), but I can certainly see us letting them all flee to NZ or Patag, and just barricading them. They can’t do s#!+ without oil, so let them run, then starve them out.

    #77678
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “he who defends everything, defends nothing”

    #77679
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Thank you, thomasj, needed to hear that from somewhere other than inside my own head. Chin up, carry on.

    #77681
    hostebbe
    Participant

    Two competing energy transition strategies

    Elites of China/Russia/Iran: fossil fuels—>nuclear fission—>nuclear fusion

    Elites of the West: fossil fuels—>depopulation—>nuclear fusion

    Jeff Bezos-Backed Company To Build Fusion Plant In UK
    By Irina Slav – Jun 17, 2021, 10:30 AM CDT

    Canadian General Fusion, a company backed by Amazon, is set to build a demonstration nuclear fusion reactor in Oxfordshire, the BBC reports, adding the facility will be 70 percent the size of a commercial reactor.

    The news comes a couple of weeks after the UK government said it would start work to create a regulatory framework for supporting research and development of nuclear fusion technology to enable the delivery of clean and safe energy.

    Nuclear fusion has been garnering growing attention amid government efforts to pursue an energy transition away from fossil fuels and towards renewable sources of energy. To date, the biggest project aiming to recreate the process by which the Sun generates energy is ITER in France, which is planned to begin operation in 2035, after a series of delays.

    Another, very different, fusion project is taking place in California. The researchers behind the General Atomics DIII-D National Fusion Facility recently published a paper suggesting a “compact nuclear fusion plant” concept can achieve 200 megawatts (MW) of net electricity after the energy cost of the fusion process through the use of relatively tiny, self-sustaining tokamaks powered by pressurized plasma, rather than the mega-tokamak of the ITER project.

    In the UK, the Atomic Energy Authority is building the Spherical Tokamak for Energy Production (STEP), a prototype fusion power plant it plans to be operational by 2040. Last month, the AEA announced a breakthrough that would allow the components of the fusion reactor to last longer despite the intense heat produced during the fusion process, potentially bringing commercially viable fusion closer to reality.

    China is also working on nuclear fusion. In May, researchers working on the country’s artificial sun project announced they had achieved plasma of 120 million degrees Celsius for close to two minutes. The duration of the successful experiment shows hope, but it also shows the long road nuclear fusion has yet to go to reach commercial viability.

    By Irina Slav for Oilprice.com

    #77682
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    While speaking with my step-mum last Sunday, she complained again about the amount of pressure she was under to get vaccinated. Doctors insisting, close friends and family accusing her of putting her and my father’s life at risk, eye rolls, neighbors asking, ads saturating the airwaves, and even traffic message signs. It’s a full court press and she’s feeling the heat.

    I told her that this was intentional, that very few have the strength to resist so much social pressure. Like most, she seriously underestimates the power of peer pressure, and how much of what we do it conditioned by it. I said, “If you went shopping tomorrow and every woman you met was wearing black leotards, you would immediately feel uncomfortable and would make a beeline for the nearest clothing store to get a pair.” That’s how important it is for us to “fit in”.

    It reminded me of the Solomon Asch Conformity Experiment in which several people were asked to select which of 3 lines were the same length as the target line. The actual subject undergoing the experiment didn’t realize that all the others in the room were stooges who were all assigned to pick the same wrong answer. By the time the actual subject chose (being last), he felt a great deal of pressure to give the same answer as all the others, even though he thought it was incorrect.

    Humans are herding animals. Very few have the courage or strength to stand alone against the prevailing narrative. Maybe it all goes back to the days when banishment or exile meant certain death. The whole “there is safety in numbers” phenomenon.

    So, all those doctors who are currently turning a blind eye to patients that are coming in with vaccine related injuries, turning them away like they are radioactive, telling them to see a psychologist, etc., are they doing so because of peer pressure? And what about those who send newly diagnosed Covid-positive patients away without treatment, telling them to come back when they can’t breathe and their lips turn blue?

    Peer pressure? I don’t think so. When doctors are threatened with their position and livelihood if they dare attempt to treat a Covid patient with anything other than a Big Pharma product, that sounds more like extortion. There are always those who are oblivious, and drift along with the prevailing medical orthodoxy until someone tells them otherwise, but I believe that the majority willingly submit to the extortion, thereby placing their own welfare above that of their patients. Picking the wrong answer, not because they’re psychologically uncomfortable, but because they’ll be punished if the don’t.

    #77683
    Bill7
    Participant

    The tentacles tighten:

    ‘California launches digital COVID-19 vaccine pass but won’t require it’:

    “California officials on Friday unveiled a website to access or download a digital copy of COVID-19 immunization records, though they stressed the state would not make it mandatory to carry the vaccine credentials.
    Businesses will be able to verify the authenticity of digital “vaccine cards” by scanning a QR code on them using an app that a nonprofit group is expected to launch this month. The nearly 20 million immunized Californians can access their data at myvaccinerecord.cdph.ca.gov.

    “It’s an optional tool to use,” said State Epidemiologist Dr. Erica Pan..”

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/california-launches-digital-covid-19-vaccine-pass-wont-require-it-2021-06-18/

    #shouldbeFine

    #77684
    WES
    Participant

    Off topic:

    The Phoenix vote audit hand count of ballots has been completed. Only braille ballots remain to be counted.

    Irony:

    President Trump was impeached for suspending military aid to the Ukraine (something he never did). Today joe actually suspends military aid to the Ukraine. Shouldn’t joe be impeached?

    #77685
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Jeez, Bill7, why can’t CA keep up? NY already has a digital vaccine pass in place. Maybe CA’s top idiots should contact NY’s top idiots so CA can skip some of these needless, time consuming, interim steps.

    #77686
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    “It’s an optional tool to use,” said State Epidemiologist Dr. Erica Pan..”

    Unless, of course, you want to go to a sporting event, or cinema, or your favorite pub, or work.

    Plausible deniability, because it’s a business, you know?

    #77687
    Bill7
    Participant

    > Plausible deniability, because it’s a business, you know?

    this.

    #77688
    Germ
    Participant

    Dr. Byram Bridle, Associate Professor of viral immunology at the University of Guelph returns for a very highly anticipated response and a critical, live saving update.

    Must listen:

    #77689
    zerosum
    Participant

    Vaccine passports are irrelevant to a society which is computerized.
    You info is already on file, in data bases, (birth, census, banking, social insurance number, health number, passport, vaccination number, employment, driving license, credit cards, security cameras, etc)
    Linking all this data can be done without your knowledge.
    All of these data bases can track your movements without your input.

    Why are we discussing vaccine passports?

    #77690
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Matt Taibbi: Why has Ivermectin become a dirty word?

    Most of the article is behind a paywall, but I suggested to Matt in a reply Tweet that he make this one generally available.

    #77691
    WES
    Participant

    Being from upnorth, I love blueberries!

    One of my favorite things to do, as a kid, up north in the fall, was when the family went out blueberry picking. The blueberries in the far north are very small. Actually tiny. If we we lucky, the family would pick enough blueberries to bake a blueberry pie. If not, then blueberry tarts. Both were delicious!

    These days it is mostly the much larger domestic blueberries.

    In the winter we get blueberries from Argentina, Chile, and later Peru.

    Four weeks ago it was Georgia blueberries!
    Two weeks ago it was North Carolina blueberries!
    Now it is New Jersey blueberries!
    In a few weeks time it will be Ontario blueberries!
    By late-July to August, it will then be British Columbia blueberries!

    The fall is the worst time, because there are few blueberries to be had from anywhere! I then suffer cold turkey blueberry withdrawal symptoms!

    #77692
    WES
    Participant

    Michael:

    Just wondering if you are a fisherman? I think trout fishing season should be just around the corner! As a kid I just loved to fish for speckle brook trout using worms. I got my supply of worms from having to dig deep holes to bury the dead ground hogs, my Grandfather’s dog, Toby caught and proudly left on the front lawn to ripen!

    #77693
    Bill7
    Participant

    My answer Taibbi’s question about ivermectin: it’s super-dangerous because you might be able to keep yourself healthy with
    it at a low cost, and without a “vaccine” or elite control. This must be stopped!

    /s

    #77694
    zerosum
    Participant

    Now I know. I was told a lie.

    “get the vaccine, (two shots), then you won’t get covid, and then you won’t give covid to others.”

    #77695
    Antidote
    Participant

    Thank you thomasjkenney Nicely stated!

    #77696
    Bill7
    Participant

    The fear-porn is ratcheted up yet again: ‘ Delta Force: Notes on Our Newest Covid Variant of Concern’

    Delta Force: Notes on Our Newest Covid Variant of Concern

    “Delta Force”, eh?

    make it stop..

    #77697
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ WES

    Blueberries freeze well. I just finished off a Newfoundland (small blueberry) pie mom made.

    #77698
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Well, I’ll see you your “Delta Force” and raise you “Sigma Omicron Beta Force!” 😀

    #77699
    John Day
    Participant

    @PhoenixVoice:
    I have always quipped that I “had God’s vaccine” when asked about vacinations for measles, mumps, rubella and so on. And I did, and it was only ever a little quip, that everybody got and understood.
    Try those words, “I had God’s vaccine”.
    See how it flies.
    The COVID Survivor T-shirt is a good thing to have. I guess you have to hand wash and block dry it every night, these days.
    Hang in there, Girl!
    Supportive-John

    #77700
    Topcat
    Participant

    As viruses age and mutate they generally get less virulent because killing all the hosts leaves no room for replication.

    So the BS that will be pedaled this fall, that some Covid ‘variant’ is worst than the original will be for propaganda and control purposes and most important, to sell ‘boosters’ to the Plebs.

    Every year in fact.

    Cha-ching!

    #77701
    WES
    Participant

    Michael:

    Yes, I keep frozen wild blueberries all year round in the freezer to make blueberry pancakes! I think most of Canada’s frozen wild blueberries come from northern Nova Scotia. Ann Murry country! Blueberry fields everywhere!

    In mid 2000s we, as a family, toured the northern half of Nova Scotia, Cape Breton Island, PEI, and Southern New Brunswick. That is when I discovered the frozen wild blueberry capital of Canada. They have a massive plant just for freezing the fresh wild blueberries.

    The kids really enjoyed the Bay of Fundy and it’s huge tides!

    #77702
    WES
    Participant

    Topcat:

    Somewhere I read that there are over a million variants of covid, so what is one more? Need to keep scaring people that the boogie man is coming if you don’t Vax up! Looks more like he will come and hang around for the rest of your life if you do get vax’xed!(

    #77703
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ WES

    I really enjoyed catching salmon with fly rod on the river when I was younger and it was possible to can your years supply of salmon. Now the season limit is so low I don’t bother. Today I was fully occupied planting on an island in the river and noticed people catching salmon

    #77704
    John Day
    Participant

    @hostebbe:
    Thanks, I get to pick the best looking pictures of my body to put in the blog.
    I am 50# over my college weight.
    I have found that keeping a little muscle on my chest and shoulders with a few exercises a week really makes the fat look smaller.
    I eat a lot of fresh vegetables and do stuff I think of, because that’s how my mind and body work together. In recent years my mind thinks about growing food a lot.
    My mind wants to eat only what I grow, and some meals, it can.

    #77705
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    I’m going to try to post a file again.

    According to the BBC, not wearing a mask leads to “extreme beliefs.” Racist is next?

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