March 25, 2021 at 11:02 pm #71774Bill7Participant
“More and more, as I think about history,” he pondered, “I am convinced that everything that is worth while in the world has been accomplished by the free, inquiring, critical spirit, and that the preservation of this spirit is more important than any social system whatsoever. But the men of ritual and the men of barbarism are capable of shutting up the men of science and of silencing them forever.”
― Sinclair Lewis, It Can’t Happen Here
“Under a tyranny, most friends are a liability. One quarter of them turn “reasonable” and become your enemies, one quarter are afraid to stop and speak, and one quarter are killed and you die with them. But the blessed final quarter keep you alive.”
― Sinclair Lewis, It Can’t Happen HereMarch 25, 2021 at 11:43 pm #71775sumac.carolParticipant
Dr. D your comment on socialized medicin based on the UK example is a huge leap not supported by data. Requiring profit to be made in health care diverts money away from direct care. Numerous international studies confirm in the area of elder care that for profit institutions have poorer health outcomes. Money diverted to shareholders does not help health outcomes. Health care corporations whose primary objective is making money do not provide the best health care outcomes — instead they maximize shareholder value. It is not a question of running out of other people’s money — in fact it is a redistribution of resources. We take some of the money from the rich and spread it around. I guess if you don’t live with public health care it is hard to imagine how it would work. It is not perfect for sure, but in Canada, unlike the US, a primary cause of bankruptcy is not health care costs. If you would argue that we need minute taxation if the rich to incentivize ingenuity, I wonder how it happened that we have had significant innovations and technological advances when corporate taxes were much higher than they are now.March 25, 2021 at 11:59 pm #71776madamskiParticipant
Graci, dear microbe, for the ziverdoit link.
@ Maxwell Quest
“That said, I do not find Dr D. to be negative or depressing at all, for I find buried within his rants the solutions, sometimes hinted at, other times explicit.”
Hmmm. I don’t find it depressing but negative insomuch as citing inaccurate data, often with what looks to me like willful ignorance, goes against my grain, especially when proferred by someone as wise and informed as Dr. D.
Not only do I do it to medel in discussion dynamics, but even worse, I do it to make the dear Dr. think.
It’s a bl;essing, imo, and I doubt that Dr. D experiences more than occasional mild annoyance when I critique his output. He knows I am sincere and do not address his assertion without offering genuine substance frrom a different perspective.
For an insatiable autodidact like Dr. D, this should be good grist for his mill. (We generally call Dr. D a ‘he’ but, for all I know…)
But, to clarify, yes, the verbal cataract of “lies lies lies lies lies” disserves something in his offerings, imo, and, well, downright fascinates me at times: doesn’t it ever get old, I wonder, then remind myself that we are creatures of deeply ingrained and complexy imprinted habits.
And no, the last thing I would want the Dr to do is eat shit and go fuck himself. But he knows the drill, and it’s one I feel we all need regular reminding of.March 26, 2021 at 1:28 am #71777WESParticipant
joe & kamala:
joe orders chair lift for ramp to Air Force One.
kamala cancels order for chair lift as waste of tax payer money!
joe puts kamala in charge of southern border.
kamala refuses to go to southern border and stays in Washington!
joe says he is running in 2024 election.
kamala is with-holding joe’s meds!
Clearly kamala is in a hurry but slow joe isn’t!
joe held a question and answer press conference today.
All media questions were submitted beforehand to the press secretary.
The media eagerly compiled.
Only certain questions were approved with unapproved questions not allowed to be asked.
joe had a cheat sheet with pre-written answers to the approved questions allowed to be asked.
The media only asked the approved questions.
Americans are being played as being totally stupid!March 26, 2021 at 2:33 am #71778John DayParticipantMarch 26, 2021 at 2:37 am #71779V. ArnoldParticipant
Americans are being played as being totally stupid!
My only question is: why do they gladly accept their role with such vigor…
…as to big pharma; there is nothing new under the sun…
Having grown up with a father working for them for 30 years, their corrupting of doctors goes all the way back to the beginning…
As corruption spread throughout society, its gone from aberrant to normative; sort of like the myth of the frog and boiling water…March 26, 2021 at 2:56 am #71780zerosumParticipant
Thanks for the concernMarch 26, 2021 at 3:47 am #71781WESParticipant
The so called journalists work for the rich folks who own the government!
And Americans are not as stupid as the so called journalists think they are!March 26, 2021 at 4:20 am #71782HuskynutParticipant
I enjoyed the discussion thread today – whether focusing on positive or negative are more effective.
Have to say I don’t have a horse in that race – it depends on the audience and timing. On te internetz we control little of either, and so it’s a lottery.
For myself – I indulge the angry impulse many time because for this “good” Catholic boy of old, unleashing with venom is therapeutic. I enjoy the darkest of humour on occasion, and it’s a cathartic relief to hear any genuinely savage attack that’s worthy (months later, Ilargi’s “Fauci is a rodent and a wanker” still tickles me.. 🙂
But the Fuller quote resonates, and the reality is it’s harder to be brilliantly constructive than destructive. Though perhaps even that short-cuts the creatively-destructive truth that the status quo genuinely has to be torn down (or at the very less breached) before anything else is possible. And history says that typically involves falling a long way from the peaks before rebuilding.
For myself, a couple of weeks ago I had a fruitful councelling session, and my rage is more now “in a box” – accessible as energy, but not (generally) invoked upon the world around me. The world seems to like me better.. 😉March 26, 2021 at 4:24 am #71783V. ArnoldParticipant
And Americans are not as stupid as the so called journalists think they are!
…then I suggest that stupid is the wrong word…
There is something seriously amiss with Usians and if it’s not stupidity then what…
Ignorance is a certainty. That along with a failed ability at critical thinking, sure smacks of cognitive failures across the board…
Here is a Miriam-Webster definition…
Definition of stupid (Entry 1 of 2)
1a: slow of mind : OBTUSE
b: given to unintelligent decisions or acts : acting in an unintelligent or careless manner
c: lacking intelligence or reason : BRUTISH
2: dulled in feeling or sensation : TORPID
still stupid from the sedative
3: marked by or resulting from unreasoned thinking or acting : SENSELESS
a stupid decision
Stupidity surely fits in the society as relevant; so, stupid it is, IMO…
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