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  • #72005
    Bill7
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    ’31 Reasons Why I Won’t Take the Vaccine’:

    “..The presumed benefits of this medical treatment are minimal and would not last long in any case. The establishment acknowledges this, and is already talking about additional shots and ever-increasing numbers of new “vaccines” that would be required on a regular basis. I refuse to turn myself into a chronic patient who receives injections of new pharmaceutical products on a regular basis simply to reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus that these injections do not even prevent..

    and

    “..The establishment insists that this medical treatment is safe. They cannot possibly know this because the long-term effects are entirely unknown, and will not be known for many years. They may speculate that it is safe, but it is disingenuous for them to make such a claim that cannot possibly be known. Because they are being disingenuous, I do not trust them, and I want no part of their treatment..”

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/02/25/31-reasons-why-i-wont-take-the-vaccine/

    This heare’s a real [carefully contrived and cultivated] fork in the road.

    CJ Hopkins’s latest Consent Factory column is excellent too, but the link again won’t link.. odd. 😉

    #72006
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Since he’s gotten over his TDS he is a very good read again

    https://zensecondlife.blogspot.com/

    #72007
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Three facts that must be put together:

    Bill Gates is touting these vaccines as essential to the survival of the human race.
    Bill Gates believes the world has too many people and needs to be “depopulated”.
    Bill Gates, perhaps the richest man in the world, has also not been injected. No rush.

    Uh, no. I’ll pass on any medical treatments he wants me to take.”

    #72008
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Guest Post by Chananya Weissman
    What The COVID Vaccine Does To Your Body – YouTube

    1.

    It’s not a vaccine. A vaccine by definition provides immunity to a disease. This does not provide immunity to anything. In a best-case scenario, it merely reduces the chance of getting a severe case of a virus if one catches it. Hence, it is a medical treatment, not a vaccine. I do not want to take a medical treatment for an illness I do not have.

    2.

    The drug companies, politicians, medical establishment, and media have joined forces to universally refer to this as a vaccine when it is not one, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer about undergoing a medical treatment. Because they are being deceitful, I do not trust them, and want nothing to do with their medical treatment.

    3.

    The presumed benefits of this medical treatment are minimal and would not last long in any case. The establishment acknowledges this, and is already talking about additional shots and ever-increasing numbers of new “vaccines” that would be required on a regular basis. I refuse to turn myself into a chronic patient who receives injections of new pharmaceutical products on a regular basis simply to reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus that these injections do not even prevent.

    4.

    I can reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus by strengthening my immune system naturally. In the event I catch a virus, there are vitamins and well-established drugs that have had wonderful results in warding off the illness, without the risks and unknowns of this medical treatment.

    5.

    The establishment insists that this medical treatment is safe. They cannot possibly know this because the long-term effects are entirely unknown, and will not be known for many years. They may speculate that it is safe, but it is disingenuous for them to make such a claim that cannot possibly be known. Because they are being disingenuous, I do not trust them, and I want no part of their treatment.

    6.

    The drug companies have zero liability if anything goes wrong, and cannot be sued. Same for the politicians who are pushing this treatment. I will not inject myself with a new, experimental medical device when the people behind it accept no liability or responsibility if something goes wrong. I will not risk my health and my life when they refuse to risk anything.

    7.

    Israel’s Prime Minister has openly admitted that the Israeli people are the world’s laboratory for this experimental treatment. I am not interested in being a guinea pig or donating my body to science.

    8.

    Israel agreed to share medical data of its citizens with a foreign drug company as a fundamental part of their agreement to receive this treatment. I never consented for my personal medical data to be shared with any such entity, nor was I even asked. I will not contribute to this sleazy enterprise.

    9.

    The executives and board members at Pfizer are on record that they have not taken their own treatment, despite all the fanfare and assurances. They are claiming that they would consider it unfair to “cut the line”. This is a preposterous excuse, and it takes an unbelievable amount of chutzpah to even say such a thing. Such a “line” is a figment of their own imagination; if they hogged a couple of injections for themselves no one would cry foul. In addition, billionaires with private jets and private islands are not known for waiting in line until hundreds of millions of peasants all over the world go first to receive anything these billionaires want for themselves.

    10.

    The establishment media have accepted this preposterous excuse without question or concern. Moreover, they laud Pfizer’s executives for their supposed self-sacrifice in not taking their own experimental treatment until we go first. Since they consider us such fools, I do not trust them, and do not want their new treatment. They can have my place in line. I’ll go to the very back of the line.

    11.

    Three facts that must be put together:

    Bill Gates is touting these vaccines as essential to the survival of the human race.
    Bill Gates believes the world has too many people and needs to be “depopulated”.
    Bill Gates, perhaps the richest man in the world, has also not been injected. No rush.

    Uh, no. I’ll pass on any medical treatments he wants me to take.

    12.

    The establishment has been entirely one-sided in celebrating this treatment. The politicians and media are urging people to take it as both a moral and civic duty. The benefits of the treatment are being greatly exaggerated, the risks are being ignored, and the unknowns are being brushed aside. Because they are being deceitful and manipulative, I will not gamble my personal wellbeing on their integrity.

    13.

    There is an intense propaganda campaign for people to take this treatment. Politicians and celebrities are taking selfies of themselves getting injected (perhaps in some cases pretending to get injected), the media is hyping this as the coolest, smartest, most happy and fun thing to do. It is the most widespread marketing campaign in history. This is not at all appropriate for any medical treatment, let alone a brand new one, and it makes me recoil.

    14.

    The masses are following in tow, posting pictures of themselves getting injected with a drug, feeding the mass peer pressure to do the same. There is something very alarming and sick about this, and I want no part of it. I never took drugs just because “everyone’s doing it” and it’s cool. I’m certainly not going to start now.

    15.

    Those who raise concerns about this medical treatment are being bullied, slandered, mocked, censored, ostracized, threatened, and fired from their jobs. This includes medical professionals who have science-based concerns about the drug and caregivers who have witnessed people under their charge suffering horrible reactions and death shortly after being injected. When the establishment is purging good people who risk everything simply to raise concerns about a new medical treatment — even if they don’t outright oppose it — I will trust these brave people over the establishment every time. I cannot think of a single similar case in history when truth and morality turned out to be on the side of the establishment.

    16.

    This is the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race.

    17.

    It is purposely not being portrayed as the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race, and the fact that it is a medical experiment at all is being severely downplayed.

    18.

    Were they up front with the masses, very few would agree to participate in such an experiment. Manipulating the masses to participate in a medical experiment under false pretenses violates the foundations of medical ethics and democratic law. I will not allow unethical people who engage in such conduct to inject me with anything.

    19.

    The medical establishment is not informing people about any of this. They have become marketing agents for an experimental drug, serving huge companies and politicians who have made deals with them. This is a direct conflict with their mandate to concern themselves exclusively with the wellbeing of the people under their care. Since the medical establishment has become corrupted, and has become nothing more than a corporate and political tool, I do not trust the experimental drug they want so badly to inject me with.

    20.

    We are being pressured in various ways to get injected, which violates medical ethics and the foundations of democratic society. The best way to get me not to do something is to pressure me to do it.

    21.

    The government has sealed their protocol related to the virus and treatments for THIRTY YEARS. This is information that the public has a right to know, and the government has a responsibility to share. What are they covering up? Do they really expect me to believe that everything is kosher about all this, and that they are concerned first and foremost with my health? The last time they did this was with the Yemenite Children Affair. If you’re not familiar with it, look it up. Now they’re pulling the same shtick. They didn’t fool me the first time, and they’re definitely not fooling me now.

    #72009
    John Day
    Participant

    Blog post is up: http://www.johndayblog.com/2021/03/lost-opportunities.html

    I opened with Hudson and Escobar, which you have seen. I’ll put in some other things piecemeal to avoid blocking.

    #72010
    John Day
    Participant

    How did these guys trust each other back then? What was the secret? They were clearly murderous scoundrels.
    Secret societies? Help me out.​ Samo Burja:
    ​ With a handshake and a reputation at stake, you could sail to the other end of the world, spending years out of contact with your business partners, yet secure in knowing they would honor their word. This trust at a distance provided the conditions for ocean-based commodity markets to beat regional commodity markets. After this material transformation, the plantations in the New World and workshops in India became logistically closer to a city than shepherds living in geographically nearby hills.
    ​ ​Before this point, city-based labor markets had the highest impact on society, while the role of markets in exchanging the raw resources of the countryside for the finished products of the city was minor and easily replaced by customary trade. With the social technologies of long-distance commerce, the labor market of a city became connected to a commodity market that could match its pace, opening massive potential to make the city a center of material production.
    ​ ​Creating those markets involved mass dislocation. Armies rip people from their homes and turn them into soldiers; this was well understood in antiquity. During industrialization, the shock of dislocation from previous social ties combined with a newly institutionalized environment to produce distress not too dissimilar from the shock of incarceration or hazing.​..
    ​ ​The strange spiritual practices, scientific exploration of human psychology, and at times outright ideological cults of the founding cohort gave way to a more shallow type of knowledge. This was a knowledge of levers and buttons, rather than the first principles which built those levers and buttons.
    ​ ​When times change—and you don’t need or can’t sustain the full pace of industrialization anymore—the vast masses of the industrial population prove themselves difficult to demobilize from their war of production. They can’t be returned to the social fabric of agricultural society, since the urban environment that enabled the agricultural hinterland to function no longer exists. The countryside has become an industrial resource base, rather than the setting for a pre-industrial way of life.
    ​ ​The solution of overproducing white-collar jobs is at first natural and then dysfunctional. Bureaucracies decay in a way that is much less visible than the decay of factories.
    ​ ​The real upward mobility of dysfunctional agriculturalists to functional industrial workers is replaced by the on-paper upward mobility of functional industrial workers to dysfunctional knowledge economy workers. Despite these measures, the real downward mobility is eventually made apparent.​
    (I see it, peekaboo!​ Hey, where do competent workers go, now?​)​ …​
    ​ ​If this is correct, then post-industrial society isn’t our name for the next stage of civilizational progress. Instead, the term is true in its most literal and pessimistic interpretation: a society after and without industrial civilization. Such a society doesn’t even have the social infrastructure of agricultural civilizations. This means it cannot even mint the preliminary social capital needed to reindustrialize. Likewise, we have lost the implicit knowledge upon which our industrial systems functioned even as recently as a few decades ago. That knowledge cannot be regained absent the people who actually built and understood those systems.
    ​ ​What then follows is slow decay, first of production and then of advanced technology itself. At a macro scale, this is the deep root of civilizational collapse.​..
    ​Mostly, the adjustment to decline would just be an invisible lowering of expectations. When political incentives at all layers of the government pyramid go against ascertaining the truth of a situation, the truth isn’t ascertained.
    ​ ​Social scientists wouldn’t see it coming, since official numbers would be about as reliable as public health messaging during a pandemic. Wealth can shrink by 1% per year for a century, while measures such as GDP can show continued growth by 2% per year. The Soviet Union’s era of stagnation had 30 years of solid growth according to their metric of NMP (Net Material Product). American economists only noticed and revised our GDP estimates for the Soviet Union after its collapse.​..
    ​Whatever solution our civilization might find to escape the post-industrial trap, it will require social technologies of production and knowledge very different from anything we’ve seen before. A good place to start would be a new basis for friendship that defeats atomization, and a truthfulness that is compatible with political loyalty.​
    ​{Spiritual ​honesty​?}
    palladiummag.com/2021/03/24/the-end-of-industrial-society/

    #72011
    John Day
    Participant

    Better refloat that boat! Russia does already have a fleet of icebreakers…
    Russia Pitches Frosty Arctic Sea Route As Superior Alternative To Blocked Suez Canal
    http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-pitches-frosty-arctic-sea-route-superior-alternative-blocked-suez-canal

    “Biden” floats a rival plan for global trade to counter China’s Belt-and-Road initiative, “New Silk Road” to Boris Johnson.
    Both of these men are titular heads of government within the rentier globalist/Atlantacist financial capitalist order.
    What can this rentier new-world-order have to offer that is not rentier extraction?
    This is a head-fake, a narrative-adjustment.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/economics/biden-floats-rival-plan-chinas-belt-road-call-uks-johnson

    But, but, but what else can there possibly be? This is the riddle of the Sphinx.
    Monetary adaptation to planetary emergency: addressing the monetary growth imperative
    Conclusion: In any economy where money hoarding and accumulation is not curtailed, and where most of the money in circulation is issued by private banks as debt, with or without interest, there will be a system-wide scarcity of money available to people and organisations to service their debts – unless, that is, there is continual economic growth. To avoid the deleterious implications of a shortfall of money in an economy, policies are used to maintain economic growth, which is therefore a form of imperative on society. This MGI may be accentuated, at a system-wide level, by the practice of full-reserve re-lending of money. Interest is not the main driver of the imperative, but because it increases the transfer of money to those who are wealthy and more likely to hold that money in a stagnant form that is not available for debt servicing by others, interest charges may indeed exacerbate the MGI. We conclude that the debt-money system creates a competition for money between debtors and savers which is resolved through creation of more debt-money, which in turn drives growth and the resulting ecological and climate emergency.
    insight.cumbria.ac.uk/id/eprint/5993/

    #72012
    John Day
    Participant

    Surgeon Warns Vaccinating People Infected With COVID Could Cause ‘Avoidable Harm’
    In an interview with Tucker Carlson, Dr. Hooman Noorchashm says we’re taking the COVID pandemic problem, where a half-percent of the population is susceptible to dying, and compounding it by vaccinating people who are already infected.
    childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinating-people-infected-covid-cause-avoidable-harm/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=cc4fbf8a-fef7-446e-b013-777366a5330a

    ​Gilad Atzmon has more on that story, with a focus on the relationships between Pfizer, the Israeli government, and Israeli vaccine trial subjects without informed consent.
    ​ ​In Israel yesterday, an independent legal body that calls itself the Civilian Probe (CP)* published its finding regarding the catastrophic impact of the Pfizer vaccine on the nation.
    ​ ​In their report, which they submitted to the Attorney General and the Health Minister, the committee listed a chain of critical legal and ethical failures that point at a possible attempt to mislead not just Israelis but also the entire world. Since the beginning of January I have been reporting on an undeniable correlation between vaccinations, cases and deaths (here , here, here and here ). The CP confirms my suspicions but their study also presents alarming medical findings regarding the scale of lethal side effects.
    ​ ​In the document the CP points at a government attempt to conceal its dealing with Pfizer.​..​
    ​ ​“What do we learn from the facts on the ground?” the CP report asks. “An examination of mortality data published by the government shows that there is a correlation between number of vaccinations and the number of deaths. The excess mortality is noticeable among people up to 70 and also among adults over the age of 70, and remains even after offsetting the deaths attributed to Corona. In the population over the age of 70 – in January 2021 an excess mortality of 19.5% was observed compared to October 2020 – the month when the corona data were highest, and 22.4% compared to January 2020. In the younger population – an excess mortality of 7% was observed in January 2021 compared to the month October 2020 – the month in which the corona death numbers were the highest, and 7% compared to January 2020. It should be noted that this trend continues in the following month as well.”
    ​ ​As mentioned above I have been writing about the devastating correlation between vaccines and deaths since early January. In Britain and the USA, we detect identical correlation between mass vaccination and death. However, far more problematic is the realm of side effects, something which governments, the WHO, the corrupted pharmaceutical industry, and of course social media giants attempt to suppress in the most Orwellian manner. The Israeli CP seems to have produced the first robust report on Pfizer’s vaccine side effects. They published a table of their findings, which they summarize here:
    ​ ​“As one can detect looking at the table – there are close to 200 deaths, and this – only by examining about 800 reports of cases of serious side effects. As mentioned, the CP is still working on analyzing side effects and we have hundreds of additional reports that are subject to analysis. Our study so far indicates that about 25% of deaths are from people under the age of 60. About 15% of them are under 50 years old. 7 of the deceased are at young ages – below age 30. Also, the study identified 27 cases of heart problems in people under the age of 60, of which 24 cases are among young people aged 17-30. Regarding the issues to do with female medical complications (including labor-complication, delayed menstruation or irregular menstruation, etc.) – it should be noted that the committee has about 200 additional reports that have not yet been included in the final list of our findings.”
    ​[We tried to report vaccination side effects in a patient ​at our clinic ​last week. It was extremely cumbersome, an intimidating process, and we are not sure that we were successful.​ The RN left a recorded message.​ No organization can afford what it takes to report mild-to-moderate side effects within this ​US ​format.]
    gilad.online/writings/2021/3/23/the-probe-into-the-israeli-vaccine-policy-and-its-outcome-is-beyond-damning

    #72013
    John Day
    Participant

    Major vaccine-industry advocate… ​
    White House health adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci declared Sunday that children either need to be vaccinated or must wear face masks if they want to play together.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/watch-fauci-says-kids-need-wear-face-masks-play-together

    ​Look at these graphics. Texas is sliding into natural herd immunity.
    This was happening already before vaccinations started.
    Peak cases were in mid January.
    Spring break didn’t even cause an uptick.
    12% of Texans are fully vaccinated.​
    Kids are mostly back in school.
    http://www.texasobserver.org/tracking-covid-19-in-texas/

    A​t least the threat of global shipping through the arctic with Russian icebreakers is now forestalled!​
    The Ever Given is out of the Suez Canal, thanks to full (super) moon, high tide, big tugs and dredging.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/markets/megaship-blocking-suez-canal-80-partially-refloated

    #72014
    madamski
    Participant

    @ Mr. House

    “He puts himself out for it, so why shouldn’t he be punched?”

    You’re not punching, you’re bitching. Gates is out of reach. Even if your bitching somehow reached Bozo the Billionaire’s ears, he’d probably hardly register it. He’s been rich and famous forever, a fame that started with countless cartoons describing how un-sexy and un-charismatic and generally dweebish is Mr. Gates. Major ego hits.

    As for your neighbor: at least you conversed face-to-face in physically real space-time. I can only applaud that.

    “I just advocate for better stewards.”

    Oh, I understand that. It’s well-intentioned. I just think it’s counter-productive. It feeds the beast not starves it. An examplary anecdote of sorts: I saw yesterday a bumper-sticker exhorting us to be free, be ourselves, etc., with the punch-word dominating in large CAPS: RESIST. Resisting defines the self by the thing one resists. It is not liberty.

    Resistance really is futile, I believe, except individually. Consider the inverse of *Gandhi’s famous strategy, “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win”, becomes “First you win, then they fight you, then they laugh at you, then they ignore you.” (*allegedly; more likely it is originally from this by Nicholas Klein): “And, my friends, in this story you have a history of this entire movement. First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you. And that, is what is going to happen to the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America.”

    Once they’re building monuments to you, you’re on your way to becoming the New Oppressor. This notion we have that forming solidarity promotes liberty is one of the finest con-jobs we’ve pulled on ourselves. Forming solidarity mostly just lines us up in neat tidy bunches they can herd away from the target the solidarity groups initially aimed at.

    Whether Gondor needs a king or not, Gondor has a king so long as he focuses his liberational energy on the kin or merely concept thereof. But Gondor indeed has a king: fear of death, imprisonment, torture, impoverishment, exile. We are ruled not by fear of our kings but by our fear, period.

    I worship, revere, and respect autonomy not authority. Autonomy is mine own even in prison or on the torture rack. Like a wise old mentor told my son: “If life is going to rip your nuts off with a plastic fork, it’s gonna, preriod. No reason fretting over it. Your job is to focus on whatever success is to you. May I suggest happiness?”

    Perhaps the reason that the Old Testament urges people to “fear God” is so they’ll not fear the power-hungry deformates who pretend to rule us, and will instead fear God and the consequences of not being true to themselves under God. Like that ornery redneck sang:

    Off My Rocker

    So, in essence, my protest is based on the notion that you’re giving your power away in anger (which is a secondary emotion based on the primary emotions of fear or pain). If one can’t ignore the powers that be, at least just laugh at them. Getting riled up and mouth-foaming at them neither helps you nor hurts them. Yes, there’s some satisfaction to venting but not nearly so much as a belly laugh…

    …and anger is addictive. Argubots are the most reliably engaging chat-bots in town.

    Also, as the police-lady in WIlliam Gibson’s novel, The Peripheral, said at the book’s end, about the kleptocratic villains in the tale (paraphrase quote from memory): “They’re just human like us. If we forget that we’re all doomed.”

    I suspect Gates thinks he’s a hard-headed realistic misunderstood mensch. Nobody’s all bad; nobody’s all good. Labeling someone as villain only promotes a cast system based on a relative sense of personal moral supremacy.
    We all know the phrase, ‘Hate the sin but love the sinner’. No, you don’t have to hold Gates close to your heart, and putting a bullet in his forehead might be a blessing to him and might even do some good in general (but more likely will simply make a power vacuum whose turbulence only makes things worse). But being angry at him beyond initial recognition of perceived harm, doesn’t hurt him, harms you, and empowers the sense of his power by making him appear worth being upset about.

    We are powerless to rule the group. Believing in group rule is why we are subject to tyrants of various stripe and degree. Believing we need a better group rule is the quaint path we follow to delights like Stalinism, Maoism, USA exceptionalism, etc.

    History blazingly shows that we can’t govern ourselves as a group, which begs the question: is it because we can’t govern ourselves as individuals?

    I say: yes. We have met the enemy, and it is not even us: it is myself. It is the individual. Hiding in the group (as we’ve been taught to).

    ^&*

    As for science: any belief system that confers powers becomes enshrined and then coopted for its power not its purpose.

    But I’m a hypocrite. Even I believe that Astroman can save us:

    Here I Come to Save the Day

    #72015
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ madamski

    “ Take a chance and talk to your neighbor. Don’t try to convince hem/hir of anything. JUst ask questions and listen. When they ask your opinion, you can always say, “I don’t know yet. That’s why I’m asking other people their opinions.” “

    Brilliant comment until you figure out what you want to do

    #72016
    Mr. House
    Participant

    I understand what you’re saying. I’m not angry, i just point out what appears as stupid to me. Anger is addictive, just like anything really. Sometimes it can give you focus, like the emperor used to state. Everything in moderation.

    #72019
    zerosum
    Participant

    We have identified a lot of the problems.
    We found a lot of solutions.
    Unfortunately, the present enablers are not hiring anyone to apply our solutions to the identified problems.

    #72021
    madamski
    Participant

    @ zerosum

    “We have identified a lot of the problems. We found a lot of solutions. Unfortunately, the present enablers are not hiring anyone to apply our solutions to the identified problems.”

    I like that term: “enablers”. That is far more accurate than “leaders”.

    It is group problem-solving that brought us here. Every “solution” only sets us up for greater catastrophe throughout all recorded history. We believe there’s a group solution the way a Bible-thumper believes that God is real.

    It’s a faith not a logic.

    It’s a faith I don’t share.

    I think it is wise to observe and comment on the weather, but throwing rocks at the sky soon tires, even tears tendons, while too many rocks thrown at the sky are bound to fall and bust someone’s head.

    As for Mr. Big: probably best not to let him see you coming.

    #72022
    Bill7
    Participant

    ‘Why Is Everyone In Texas Not Dying?’, by Jeffrey Tucker at AIER:

    “..What can we conclude from such a visualization? It suggests that the lockdowns have had no statistically observable effect on the virus trajectory and resulting severe outcomes. The open states have generally performed better, perhaps not because they are open but simply for reasons of demographics and seasonality. The closed states seem not to have achieved anything in terms of mitigation.

    On the other hand, the lockdowns destroyed industries, schools, churches, liberties and lives, demoralizing the population and robbing people of essential rights. All in the name of safety from a virus that did its work in any case..”

    Why Is Everyone in Texas Not Dying?

    Mission Accomplished! Some choice quotes from the Lockdownies in the piece, too; I’m saving them for Future Reference, and stuff.

    #72023
    Bill7
    Participant

    > We are powerless to rule the group. Believing in group rule is why we are subject to tyrants of various stripe and degree. Believing we need a better group rule is the quaint path we follow to delights like Stalinism, Maoism, USA exceptionalism, etc.

    History blazingly shows that we can’t govern ourselves as a group, which begs the question: is it because we can’t govern ourselves as individuals?

    I say: yes. We have met the enemy, and it is not even us: it is myself. It is the individual. Hiding in the group (as we’ve been taught to)..”

    None of that makes a damned bit of sense, partly because that’s its
    job..

    “Solidarity Bad! Bee Your Own Revolution!”

    Let me know how that goes, Chief..

    yeesh.

    #72026
    madamski
    Participant

    @ Mr. Bill7

    “None of that makes a damned bit of sense, partly because that’s its job..”

    If you can’t parse it, oh well. To infer that it is meant to confound is motive inference, always a dicey business, but also illogical: how can you infer the motive of something you say makes no sense, i.e., you don’t understand?

    You’re funny.

    #72029
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ Bill7

    I second your comment

    #72030
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    I have spent most of my life parsing code and logic. Finally some awareness!

    #72034
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ madamski

    The way I see it is to think small, your family and work your way up and when you recognize the lying, stop, take a step back and check again until you have found a group that you can proceed forward with your life

    #72037
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    One thing that I noticed growing up in a small town in the middle of nowhere is that you get to know everyone or if not you can recognize which family they are from just by the look of their face. And when new people come to town it’s very exciting because you can make new friends with new ideas. My first time driving into a city was amazing at night, so much light, so many people to meet. And when I was older and moved to Toronto alone at 17 years old I was thinking I am going to make a lot of friends here. That idea did not take long to change. As customary I would say hello to everyone I passed as a common human curtesy but they looked at me like a freak but I was very kind and handsome so I knew it was not my fault. The larger the city, the more alone I felt. Hong Kong was like living in a sea of bodies but I never felt so alone. Small is beautiful, the giant cities are not sustainable and ground floor is optimal.

    #72041
    WES
    Participant

    Michael Reid:

    Well you beat me to Toronto by a year!
    Your experience mirrored mine too!
    I arrived in Toronto at 18 to wonder the halls of Ryerson alone in 1972.
    The only people I met at school were fellow students from outside of Toronto!
    Toronto ain’t exactly a friendly city.
    That is why I avoid going Toronto these days.
    I know I am not welcome there. They have made that plain!

    Left T.O. after Ryerson, working as a service engineer for 8 years before returning to 905 area..
    At 40, I finally met someone from T.O. whom I married!
    Live in Caledon now, about an hour north of T.O.
    Strangely my daughter is 2nd year business at Ryerson.

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    John Day
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    @Michael Reid,I grew up in big cites and small towns, and military bases, which are more like medium towns with a plantation economy, and the Yokohama area. I really miss people responding to a smile with a smile, but it has gotten a bit better in Austin since the deep freeze.
    I naturally look people in the eyes and smile. Some are completely blank.

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