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    VIncent van Gogh Weeping woman 1883   • ‘I’m Slowly Dying Here’: Julian Assange in Christmas Eve Call (RT) • US Chief Justice Warns Of Internet D
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle New Year’s Day 2020]

    #52437
    V. Arnold
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    VIncent van Gogh Weeping woman 1883
    Very interesting portrait; I need more time on this one; intriguing…

    Julian…
    Nobody gives one shit…
    If he dies in that abomination, Belmarsh, what will follow will be unhearalded in our lifetimes…

    #52438
    John Day
    Participant

    V.Arnold asked about pancreatic cancer, which is a particularly bad cancer to get.
    It does not look like it is bursting on the scene in much bigger numbers, from graphs that I find on Google Images. Steve Jobs having it, and lasting unusually long with it, probably raised reporter awareness.
    All the sites I go to bury the graphs and hit me with donation pages and pictures of family members loving on old folks with oxygen tubing. Here are the google images of graphs https://www.google.com/search?q=pancreatic+cancer+rates+by+year&sxsrf=ACYBGNQeO8WBzeFPw3qfOVjfBxSk2VBQMw:1577882526185&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjlwuG7tuLmAhUZVc0KHVWvBuIQ_AUoAnoECA0QBA&biw=1304&bih=665#imgdii=2o9djWHj5ooBaM:&imgrc=YEOuH8QVQDpLcM:
    It’s still a low incidence cancer, with peak occurrance around-our-ages.

    #52439
    Dr. D
    Participant

    We have to do that Extinction Rebellion thing: you know, where we rebel in an attempt to make humans, ourselves, our friends, extinct? To stop global warming because it’s snowing in not just in Mexico and Saudi Arabia, but in Thailand:

    https://d33wjekvz3zs1a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Thailand-Snow.jpgThaihttps://d33wjekvz3zs1a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Thailand-Snow.jpg

    After Biden’s lawyer left the case and fled Arkansas, the judge now too:
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/judge-hunter-biden-paternity-case-mysteriously-recuses-hours-after-new-allegations-filed

    “Caplan’s claims are so bizarre that if one had enough tin foil, they might conclude that the recent string of filings in the case are being done to muddy the waters with absurdity.”

    But everything is a coincidence, and I do not find that suspicious at all.

    As they try for a war in Iraq, this from a few days ago:

    “Amid Kim’s “Christmas Gift” Threat, US Base Near DMZ Mistakenly Blared Air Raid Siren”

    Speaking of having to get that war going. The media’s been on this all month about how there is NOT a missile being tested in NoKo, you know, INSTEAD of the OPCW report that blows the war-state out of the slimy waters, and when that planned event doesn’t happen (um, P.S., since it DIDN’T happen, how did all these news outlets know to REPORT on this non-happening non-missile thing?) they get someone to blow the Panic horn and hopefully get some shooting going at the DMZ.

    Ah, those “beautiful bombs.”

    “U.S. intelligence agencies and an inquiry by former Special Counsel Robert Mueller found that Russia engaged in a campaign of hacking and propaganda to sway the 2016 presidential race

    Yes, by a 0.0001% rate. By a Russian citizen not the Russian government. And as affirmed by Obama who said it had no effect. Do we usually say someone is engaged in, say, a bank robbery, when all they managed to accomplish was to steal the pens from the lobby? We do now, because we are so crooked, so biased, so disingenuous that nothing can save us.

    So what brings this on Mr. Roberts? 100 years after we started failing by handing schools to government, 40 years since we accelerated it under the Department of Education, 20 years since Common Core and No Child Left insured near-complete math, historical, and actual illiteracy, a year after a major city’s valedictorian can’t add, he finally popped his hairy head up like a gopher and said, “hey”? Or maybe he’s expecting the internet to get a hold of the blackmail they used to make him flip his vote on ACA, then flee to a holiday, then oversee all the transparently phony FISA warrants.

    Because, how DID he say it was laughably unconstitutional, then a week later sign on completely using pretzel logic which illegal under three different aspects of the Constitution? (Forcing contracts, taxation, and lack of mandate @ 10A) And it was such hard work he immediately took a vacation and left the country? Huh.

    A very fitting topic as 500,000 wildlife have burned to death.

    Certainly have their priorities straight: investment in houses = unlimited. Investment in nature, water, safety, prevention = zero. Number dead = incalculable. Number of your children destroyed by your actions = all of them. Mission Accomplished! Just like California. You should be so proud. Now all you need is a dozen medieval diseases and you’ll be all caught up.

    Google Veterans: The Company Has Become ‘Unrecognizable’ (CNBC)

    Who are these guys? I could see it was EvilCorp, set up by the CIA in the first year. I don’t even work there, nor do I wish to pay attention to it, yet it was too obvious to avoid. Well, they’re probably from MIT and Yale, so they ride the short bus. And here we are and no one’s noticed they’re selling your medical records and helping China’s fascism domestically, and unabashedly doing their bidding towards destroying the United States and making it a corporate, billionaire, oligarchic, police, surveillance state: all the things leftists love, pay, support, and apologize for. Well maybe another decade of daily, transparent, overwhelming evidence will wake them, but I doubt it.

    Should Racists Get Health Care? (Ron Paul)

    The sentiment is true, but let’s look at what the actual case is: If someone is spitting at the hospitals’ people, fighting them, and refusing care from the Pakistani provider they were given, what are they supposed to do? Make them? Give them any race doctor they want, and put their race-pronoun-provider-preference on their chart? …Taking that into consideration, I have no doubt they would deny healthcare to malcontents at the earliest opportunity: like 30 years ago. Or in Belmarsh. Or by erasing rural hospitals in the North, or everywhere in rural France. But as always we pretend we ABOUT to face this problem, and it isn’t already happening to us everywhere.

    This week in progressive, #AntiLogos religion, you’re not a church if you help the poor, Cleveland edition:

    City Tells Church it Will Lose Religious Designation Because it Shelters Homeless People

    #Helping! Government helping so much! Help Help Help.

    Local homeless advocates have argued that it is more dangerous to keep these people out on the streets than it is to house them in a building that may not be entirely up to code. “Six people have frozen to death over the past few years and the unsheltered homeless population continues to rise,” NEOCH executive director, Chris Knestrick told Scene.”

    Enough said. But the more people freeze, the better for the environment, right? And don’t embarrass government by showing they haven’t done their job since they got here.

    Coyotes Take Up Residence At Trump’s New York City Golf Course (G.)

    And bears come right into most(?) American cities, but naturally we’re killing everything. Except all the things that are so much more widespread than they are in a virgin forest we can’t stop hitting them with our cars. Or the skunks and raccoons that live under every porch in the city. Or the pigs who are putting us to rout down south. Or the wolves who are bankrupting ranchers out west. Or the panthers who regularly kill joggers in Colorado. Or the cities like Detroit that have returned to forest. But other than that: no nature at all! I mean, I don’t see any at my Buzzfeed office in Brooklyn, must not exist. Humans are bad, mkay. Kill more humans.

    Earthshot: William And Kate Launch Prize To ‘Repair The Earth’ (BBC)”

    I’m going to win this with a plan to have more coyotes, deer, skunks, pigs, bears, and panthers, and get them to live amongst us, even eating our cats off our porches. Why not? If Greta can win a prize for doing nothing – actually REFUSING to do her only job: go to school – why can’t I?

    #52440
    Dr. D
    Participant

    I presume they found a way to cause cancer in people who annoy and are a risk to them, and pancreatic cancer is the fastest, least curable, so a win. Am I making this up, or has it been pretty much official reality to do this since Markov in 1978? Chavez in 2011? Never? Spy agencies and rich guys like Kevin Spacey never kill anyone and hit men don’t actually exist?

    C’mon. This is like the easiest, best way on the planet. Surely someone would try it. But I am a coincidence theorist, and all sudden deaths are a coincidence which do not need to be investigated at all.

    #52441
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ John Day
    Thanks for that timely reply.
    Sure seems to be more common lately…
    It also seems an especially pernicious variety…

    #52443
    John Day
    Participant

    This is the decade that we must have massive change, because shit just ran low, and won’t come back.
    http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/01/truth-will-out.html

    ​George Monbiot on Christmas giving as currently practiced.
    Researching her film The Story of Stuff, Annie Leonard discovered that of the materials flowing through the consumer economy, only 1% remain in use six months after sale(1). Even the goods we might have expected to hold onto are soon condemned to destruction through either planned obsolescence (breaking quickly) or perceived obsolesence (becoming unfashionable)…
    People in eastern Congo are massacred to facilitate smart phone upgrades of ever diminishing marginal utility(3). Forests are felled to make “personalised heart-shaped wooden cheese board sets”. Rivers are poisoned to manufacture talking fish. This is pathological consumption: a world-consuming epidemic of collective madness, rendered so normal by advertising and the media that we scarcely notice what has happened to us.

    The Gift of Death

    ​Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, talks about meeting with Donald Trump as the impeachment festivities kicked off 12/20/19. Thanks Eleni.
    “I like the way Trump discusses international agenda and issues in bilateral relations. He avoids any ambiguity and tries to say what he thinks directly,” Lavrov said in an interview aired by Russia’s Channel One.
    ​ ​This “productive approach” that not many top politicians use allows parties “to better understand the opportunities, difficulties and prospects of relations.”
    ​ ​The FM met with Trump on December 10 when the House Democrats announced the articles on which they were going to vote to impeach him for what they call pressure on Ukraine to launch an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son’s activities.
    ​ ​As Democrats had failed to impeach Trump previously for “collusion with Russia” because the probe found none, his meeting on that day fueled up the Resistance. But Lavrov insisted that it was just a “coincidence,” with the date of his meeting with Trump agreed a month before his arrival to Washington.
    ​ ​Lavrov described his talks at the White House as “substantial,” saying that at least “a dozen of substantial issues” were discussed including bilateral ties, strategic stability, arms control and various regional conflicts, such as those in the Middle East, Ukraine and the Korean Peninsula. “There was an extremely direct conversation on all those topics, with no attempts to cut corners or avoid contentious issues.”
    https://www.sott.net/article/426193-Lavrov-reveals-the-nature-of-foreign-policy-talks-with-Trump-He-says-what-he-thinks-directly

    Addicted to Anticipation, what goes on in the brain chemistry of a gambling addict
    ​ ​“First you get that euphoric feeling, that rush and excitement,” Townsend-Lyon says, “Once you become addicted, then you get to the point where you don’t care about anything. You’re in a zone and you don’t realize what’s going on around you.”
    The high is in expecting an outcome, desiring it, imagining it, not in its fulfillment.
    http://nautil.us/issue/40/learning/addicted-to-anticipation

    #52444
    zerosum
    Participant

    Critical thinking
    ” …. telling the truth or prosecuting felonies are the only real crimes. ….

    ….. U.S. Chief Justice John Roberts expressed concern on Tuesday about disinformation amplified by the internet and social media ….”

    Critical thinking will make you unhappy, frustrated, and lonely.
    Be happy …. Stop reading the internet

    #52445
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Jailing And Fining Chelsea Manning Constitutes Torture, Top U.N. Official Says

    Nils Melzer, the U.N. special rapporteur on torture, said in a letter that he made public this week that detaining Manning and fining her with the aim of coercing her to testify constitutes a kind of torture that runs afoul of U.S. international human rights obligations.

    Jailing And Fining Chelsea Manning Constitutes Torture, Top U.N. Official Says

    A “monument to courage” in Berlin, with Manning, Assange, Snowden, and a fourth chair which invites the public to stand with them.

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    “Anything to Say”, by Davide Dormino

    #52446
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Record heat wave in Moscow right now. While it snows in Thailand. Only losers argue against global climate disruption. Like, you know, most of humanity being caught up in time-wasting contention, using logic almost always void of data citations except from their favorite cherry basket.

    As the other megafauna perish, so does humanity. They came for the others first but I didn’t get involved. Now they come for me. Wait, I know. Let’s destroy the ecosystem entirely so we can depend on government/corporations to provide all our food/water needs. That’s the answer!

    I dropped out of high school when I was a teenager too, like Greta. Going to school is not my fucking job, it’s just the oppressive bullshit law in our authoritarian society. (I got a GED later on, as I’m sure she will too.

    Waiter, more Prozac!

    #52447
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Meanwhile, in the twilight golden days of Atlantis, the more prosperous perform amazing art:

    Playing for Peanuts

    #52448
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    The pianist has to grin, playing with a rhythm section that good. Drummer is so spot on.

    #52449
    zerosum
    Participant

    “…. using logic almost always void of data citations except from their favorite cherry basket.”
    We are all guilty, even when we think we are critical thinkers.

    #52450
    Jernau Gurgeh
    Participant

    What do you think of the comment by Chris Martenson in the Dave Collum thread about climate change at the Peak Prosperity site?

    What if… what if the power structures have known about peak oil as a reality for a long time? What if they didn’t know about shale oil (like the rest of us at the time) and that goes a long ways towards explaining the many lies and falsehoods behind attacking Iraq?

    What if their plan has always been to be “on top” of the heap that scrambles for the last dregs of oil as things wind down? What if they rightly concluded that fighting for the oil was not an option, not in this world of hypersonic missiles and the fact that China has a land route to the Middle East while the rest of the OECD has to sail there?

    What if given all that they settled on another strategy for getting that oil for themselves? What would that strategy look like?

    There really aren’t that many ways to get it “peacefully” but one of those would include “convince the rest of the world that they cannot afford it.” This is especially awesome if you can simply print up hundreds of billions of dollars per month without any seeming consequence because you and your locked-in central banker ring have got all the financial “markets” under complete control.

    Well, now you need some sort of a narrative that supports that angle. But what might do the trick? Probably has to be something really large, something existential. Preferably something that you can lock out the poor people by making it such that they can’t afford to pay the taxes and levies that are placed upon the oil to save the earth. Sorry Africa and Asia! You were just too late to participate.

    #52451
    redshift
    Participant

    Negative rates create money, it’s positive rates that destroy it – in effective terms I mean.

    Simplifying how the various forms of interest payments are made, we basically have:

    net money = money – debt = “lent”(created) money – money to be repaid (money to be destroyed plus interest)
    = sum_{i=1}^{N} (Pi) – sum_{i=1}^{N} (Pi + Ri.Pi) = – sum_{i=1}^{N} (Ri.Pi),

    where Pi and Ri are the principal and the interest rate of loan i. So, negative rates give positive net money and positive rates give negative net money.

    #52452
    zerosum
    Participant

    Take a guess!

    “[Mr. Kim] confirmed that the world will witness a new strategic weapon to be possessed by the DPRK in the near future, declaring that we cannot give up the security of our future just for the visible economic results … now that hostile acts and nuclear threat against us are increasing,” it said.

    1. Drone – paint ball delivery system to take out battle ship

    #52453
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Be happy …. Stop reading the internet…
    zerosum

    There’s more than a modicum of truth to that.
    One has to wade through massive piles of garbage to find the good stuff.
    With exceptions; we humans have the attention spans of gnats; and a propensity to be distracted by the absurd…ad infinitum…

    #52454
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Vincent van Gogh Weeping woman 1883

    That picture is so beautifully done; quite amazing really, with the masterful use of a pencil or charcoal (I think?).

    #52455

    https://www.artic.edu/artworks/59774/weeping-woman

    Black and white chalk, with brush and stumping, brush and black and grey wash, and traces of graphite, over a brush and brown ink underdrawing on ivory wove paper

    #52456
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Black and white chalk, with brush and stumping, brush and black and grey wash, and traces of graphite, over a brush and brown ink underdrawing on ivory wove paper

    Yes, this one really grabbed me; I enlarged it and spent some time just looking…
    A very intricate process I would imagine…
    Also informs the huge amount of “work” involved.
    Thanks for the additional informtion Ilargi.

    #52468
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Careful Jernau, there are other ideas that make even more sense.

    It’s often been said we could have bought all Saddam’s oil for 1/4 the price we’ve paid blowing it up. No one’s bothered by it though. Why? Because unlike what they quipped in 2003 it’s not about stealing their oil — it WOULD have been cheaper to buy it — it’s about CONTROLLING the oil. Liquid hegemonic power. Okay, to whom? Well it’s nice to have Europe by the balls, but really: China. After opening it and modernizing it by Pappa Bush and executed by Clinton’s WTO, you then need to control them. And the two mega-trends coinciding is not a coincidence.

    So then in a Peak Oil world, they a) went into Libya and Arab Spring and got that profitable oil or b) installed the Muslim Brotherhood and PREVENTED all the world’s oil from moving by installing medieval states with medieval views. Um, b) actually. And opening Iran, the last vast untapped source that could push us out another 50+ years? No, the direct opposite. So they are PREVENTING oil, worldwide in fact. The lots and lots and lots of oil remaining. What do I mean? The U.S. is historically oil-rich yet we won’t even test-drill our left and right coasts. It bubbles up out of the ocean onto Malibu. Total lockout. What does this tell you?

    We want Iran, Russia, and MENA down, dead in the water, so the U.S. is the only producer, we can set the price, control the flow, and have China and the world under our complete control. We have oil, the world has oil. Lots of it still. THAT’S THE PROBLEM. If everyone was modernized and online, it’d be $10/bbl again and after erasing Gawar and burning everybody else’s oil for 50 years under the petrodollar, our own reserves would STILL be worthless, STILL not bailing us out of massive debt at the same time the fiat currency-clock has expired.

    We need to lock up and DENY that oil. That’s the real point, the scenario that better fits the facts.

    And that’s why we’re so mad at Iran and Russia. So long as they exist, our plan, laboriously played out for 50 years at incalculable sacrifice, is dead, and our gambit is over. …But I can’t consent to them trying to take over the world anyway. Nor will my countrymen. We voted to hope they stop wars, fail, and come home.

    #52470
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ Dr. D
    You could be right, You could be wrong.
    Its irrelevant, because you are not part of the decision process, and us knowing does not affect the future.

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